the judge belongs to a group called san diego lawyer's association which does advocacy work on behalf of latinos. it's not associated with the radical group, but confusion is understandable. because of that, mr. trump apparently believes the judge may be biassed against him as it is well known the candidate has taken a strong stand against illegal immigration. the trump u case is political to

some extent, and it's a high profile situation. because of that, talking points believes that the judge should recuse himself. not because he did anything wrong, he didn't. but to eliminate any doubt as to the motivation in court rulings. >> no. that didn't happen. did he just say that? that because trump called -- >> it was a parody. it's like a -- >> to recuse himself? >> because trump made a racist statement about the judge. >> is that the new standard we set? >> apparently. >> know what you call that? killing justice right there. >> oh, that's a book! >> a really bad -- >> it's staggering that you actually have a defendant in the case making racist comments

about a judge. highly decorated judge, an honorable judge, who took on the mexican drug cartel. >> exactly. >> in detail -- >> yes. >> and because a defendant makes racist comment about a judge talking point said he must recuse himself? >> remember it's talking point not o'reilly himself. >> one should point out, this is not fox news position because megyn kelly on the same evening took exactly, of course, the opposite position saying this is absurd what trump is saying about the judge is, you know, a lawyer who tried to make this argument would be sanctioned. >> i'm sorry, around schwarzenegger came out yesterday -- >> i retweeted that. >> he said the judge is an

american hero. a guy that took on the cartels. it goes on and on. trump had the call yesterday where -- >> oh. >> he ramped it up and encouraged the surrogates to join in on the attacks. >> you need to read the piece, at least one in the new york times about this guy's life. trump could not be more wrong. >> help me out here. i was doing my afternoon needle point. >> crochet. >> my needle point has gotten a lot better. >> all right. >> smokey mountains. a beautiful scene. [ laughter ] >> love it. >> i'll needle pointing and everything, right. i'm on ancestry.com and i'm looking over and i realize that donald trump's mother came to the country about at the same time that this judge's mother came to the country. and i put down my rocky mountain scene and i said wait a second!

if we're judging americans, right, right? -- >> on their history. >> donald trump is no more american than this judge. this is insanity. then he went wack a doodle -- >> let's back up a little bit. everyone calm down. >> can i ask a question? >> no. >> mark hall paren, what is going on? i saw don rickles last night. how many million people watch it? "armed forces ii." 72 million. >> if you had armed forces radio across the planet watching -- and last night you started asking the question we've been asking for awhile here. does he want to win? has this really become a craze. >> just a destruction of the republican party for fun. >> a crazied reality tv show. and destroyed the republican

party. >> the convention is far enough away some republicans are fantasizing is there a way to stop it? >> they have to. >> they are concerned that he will not listen on something as fundamental as this. >> calling a judge a racist. >> let's back up a little bit, guys. >> their concern is he's doing this for himself. this is about his own private litigation. and nothing to do with helping the republican party. >> no, no. he's ruining it. >> if he will do this much damage to the republican party for his own self, they're worried about him and what might happen in the next five months. >> the good news is the leading republicans who endorsed them revoked their endorsements. one after another. >> yeah. >> it's june 7th. chief washington is here --

>> it was donald trump. a personal friend of mine. >> what the heck? >> he was announdenouncing me b adding paraphernalia threadd ing parentheticals. >> gene of washington. >> eugene robinson. >> exactly. he's scottish. >> bloomberg politics reports trump demanded they intensify their attacks on judge cure yell and others involved in the case involving for-profit trump university. according to bloomberg trump told the surrogates we will overcome and i've always won and i'm going to continue to win and that's the way it is. it goes on. when former arizona governor jan brewer interrupted the discussion to inform campaign that his own campaign had asked surrogates to stop talking about the lawsuit in a e-mail on sunday, trump immediaty

overruled his staff. "take that order and throw it the hell out." >> that came from the staff! >> that's right. his very, very small staff. >> his staff puts out an order. stop talking about it. >> his teeny staff. >> yeah. i predicted on the program yesterday he would -- trump would realize this is a huge mistake and try to apologize and ring the bell. and my bloomberg colleagues -- >> jennifer jacobs said we heard about the conference call. clearly he apologized. it turns out -- >> no. >> there's a little phrase that willie likes to use called doubling down. >> trump apparently said are there any other stupid letters sent out to you folks? meaning directives sent from his campaign. his very small campaign. that's one of the reasons i want to have this call. you are getting sometimes stupid information from people that aren't so smart.

>> so donald trump has a small campaign. >> yeah. it's tight. >> he hasn't had to hire that many people. >> no. >> you think if he doesn't have to hire that many people, he's not going to screw up that badly. >> could meet him in the phone booth. >> meet him in the phone booth and have time to put down the cable and have a 12-course meal inside the phone booth. >> apparently he hired people that aren't that smart. >> that's what i'm saying. if this guy is going to be hiring people to run washington, d.c., he can't even pick a few people that he's already calling stupid. it's his own people that he selected are stupid. >> yes. bill clinton has an expression he couldn't organize a two-car parade. >> campaign manager cory said he wouldn't share details of the private call, which covered multiple topics.

only trump gave the individuals in the call the understanding the background of the case that it should have been dismissed on summary judgment. the bloomberg report was not accurate, he said, but refused to specify inaccuracies. last night trump spoke with fox news host bill o'reilly, as you saw, called on the judge to recuse himself to eliminate doubt. >> if the judge recuses himself, it'll be interesting. i think the judge is an honest man. i don't think he's hosing you. i don't. i checked him. >> i hope so. look, i want him to be. mexican or not mexican. i want him -- i want him to give me a fair shake. when we have thousands of people saying this is great -- >> i got it. >> why does it continue to go forward? you know, all these times every time i go i want to talk about how lousy the economy is. i want to talk about how badly we're doing against isis. how badly we're doing at the border. every time i do a show they want to talk about trump university.

>> you know in the context of this -- this is amazing we're having, right. this may be a small point, but what trump just said. all i want the judge to do is agree with me. right. and he is just like tremendously indignant at anybody that doesn't agree with him. like he can't imagine that. there's got to be something wrong with the guy. >> put aside the bigotry for a second. let's talk political strategy. what is donald trump doing here if he wants to become the president of the united states. if you're running off latino voters, the argument after mitt romney's loss is he only won 23% of the latino vote and republicans might to get 40 win a general election. as a strategic matter. we know donald trump is smart the way he ran his campaign during the primary. what is he doing with this? is it about winning a lawsuit the expense of becoming president of the united states? >> yes. >> what are his endorsers doing?

what is the republican party doing? >> every republican in the country is being asked to weigh in. and the best anyone has done in defending him is to say i wouldn't have said it that way but let's move on. you're going to see editorials and the clinton campaign, the democratic national convention and harry reid, they are going to run with this forever. because this thing hasn't even played out. as long as trump continues to have the position. >> we have to talk about the difference between this and the muslim ban at some point. because that was as abhorrent. >> i want to go back to republicans, gene, that say, gee, i was shocked by this. paul ryan this just came out left field. >> no it didn't. >> there was a muslim ban back in december we all said was disqualifying. paul ryan went out and held a press conference condemned it. right. >> yeah. >> and he was making racist statements about this judge last week before paul ryan endorsed

donald trump. >> exactly. it was all out there. you know, it didn't come out of left field. >> yeah. this is not out of left field. this is in the main stream. and what a trump has been doing and saying. >> for paul ryan it came out of left field. there are two reasons. i hear what you're saying butna >> number one in that case, the hard, uncomfortable truth for the republican party was a lot of republicans agreed with trump on the muslim ban. a lot of republicans agreed with him. >> right. >> right. >> but ryan had to face the reality that a lot of republicans agreed with donald trump. the other reason is, they hoped, which i know mika will say is a silly hope on their part, they had hoped once he became the presumptive nominee, that he would cut stuff like this out. >> no, it was up to them to make him. see bernie sanders now? he's not out yet. he's going get something out of this.

elizabeth warren getting something out of this situation. that's how it works, too. i thought it was deal making. i thought you guys were so good at this. you guys, you republicans in washington are negotiating like women 20 years ago. it's bad. let me just tell you. you're being self-deep i are candidating and naive. they give you nothing. nothing. right, nothing. >> back of the hand. >> back of the hand. >> yeah. so, yeah. the thing is, though, the muslim ban deal. it's not something that you can swat away that easily. and if paul ryan wanted -- or if donald trump wanted paul ryan's endorsement, he could have said you have to back up this muslim ban. >> yeah. >> we have some of the best people in national security. we can put together a package to make sure it's tougher for terrorists to come into the united states. it will give you complete cover.

>> we'll standby your side. >> you can say, hey, i don't feel safe under barack obama's regime. but when i am president, regime of letting people in -- but when i'm president this is regime we'll operate under. this is the matrix that people will have to go there u. >> instead he had happy talks. >> and here it is. quit the muslim ban and i'll endorse you. he did nothing. >> no, he didn't extract anything in exchange. >> i don't understand what paul ryan would have lost by waiting it out. >> we're trying to swat this away. you're starting to see cracks. lindsey graham in the piece in the "new york times" this morning. it's the most un-american thing from a politician since joe mccarthy. if anyone was looking for an off ramp, this is probably it. there will come a time when the love of hatred will trump

hillary. >> republicans just a couple of weeks ago we were talking about how the republicans were united and the democrats were divided. there are a lot of donors and member of congress and candidates who would like to figure out now can we run without being united with trump. >> kelly ayotte of new hampshire. and she faces a tough re-election fight in new hampshire. his comments are offensive and wrong and he should retract them. that's fine. her campaign said she intends to support trump as a nominee. >> we have a two-step process. if trump continues to double down, at some point for people like kelly, ron johnson of wisconsin, portman in ohio. they're not going to be able to -- >> this becomes -- >> endorse a guy that makes racist statements about people born in indiana. >> you're right. it becomes a clear loser for

them. right. >> in indiana. >> becomes a clear loser for them. they have to cut him loose. >> let's stop here. because, you know, a lot of times we say things and we got to go to the other things. the new hillary ad. a lot of times we just stop and say "hold on." and, like, for instance during the republican convention in 2012, all the republicans wasn't that cool? we just stopped and said this is a disaster. the romney campaign is in deep, deep trouble. and they're going to lose if they don't turn things around quickly. people went absolutely crazy. i get skewered 24 hours a day. my twitter feed. you have no idea -- say this right now republicans in washington, d.c., right now you're letting your presumptive nominee, who is making racist statements run rough shod over what remaining national reputation we have as a national

party. so you to start calling him out today. this is not where you can do the slow boil. you have to start calling him out and saying you're going to retract your endorsement of him today. or else the united states senate is in danger. kelly ayotte's seat is in danger. rob portman's seat is in danger. ron johnson's seat is in danger. a lot of other seats -- >> the party -- >> are in danger. if the speaker of the house who continues to endorse a man making racist statements and really tearing away at the very fabric of madison's separation of powers that talks about an independent judiciary, then the house of representatives is in danger. we will tell you this -- remember, and it may have drove you crazy in the fall when willie and i said what is today? we would say okay trump is still ahead. and you would say he's going to fall? and, you know, look at the day.

and we said he wasn't going to fall. he was going win the nomination. now what is today? today, willie, today is june 7, 2016. republicans, call him out. back away from the endorsements. make him back down on the muslim ban. make him back down on the racist comment he's made about a man born in indiana saying he's incapable of being a fair judge because where his parents were born. or else you will lose the senate and you will lose the house. you will lose the presidency. you will lose governorships. you will lose your standing as a national party. it's that simple. >> and one other point on this, according to my michael of yahoo!. last month the plaintiff's lawyers argued to hold a trial as soon as possible in that 6-year-old case saying there are people who paying off their debts from the money they paid to trump university. but the judge pushed the trial slated for just after the republican convention back to november 28th, so it would not

interfere with the campaign. >> that sounds fair. >> in footage captured by yahoo! news, this is what trump's own lawyer said outside the courtroom on may 6th, just three weeks before trump began claiming the judge's heritage made him biassed against him. >> you said you have no plans to ask the judge to recuse himself. can you talk about that? >> if the judge is doing his job and we're not seeing to recuse the judge. we're trying to assert our rights and i think the court today -- is balancing out competing interests. we preferred a trial later in time and we'll set it november 28th when it was preferable -- >> there you go. >> meaning all around. >> he was wrong all around. still ahead on "morning joe"

hillary clinton is declared presumptive democratic nominee. don't tell that to six states voting today. plus, we'll ask senator bob corker how it's possible to support a nominee without supporting what he stands for. that's a good question. plus, david finch bowed out of his independent challenge for the white house. first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill! >> very well. >> very well. >> too well. a little uncomfortable intimately. >> tropical storm k orcolin pre much a dud. no complaints at all. a little storm surge about 2 to 3 feet in some areas. there were waves and minor damage that was done, but in general we didn't have any significant structure damage that was done. we didn't have any reports of injuries or deaths. the winds were not that strong. we had a little bit of water to deal with. that water since receded. so this morning what is left of colin is out of the eastern

banks and raleigh is clear. and this will be gone by about 10:00 a.m. here is our future radar showing the storm headed off the outer banks and the southeast is clear with the exception of left over showers and storms through central florida. the other story today new england is going to be warm and then it's going to get much cooler. in between we'll get some thunderstorms. right now a few showers out there. we have a chance of severe weather today. areas of southern new hampshire, vermont, massachusetts, northern county, large hail could be possible with these storms. and the timing of these will be typical late afternoon into the evening. boston around 7:00 to 8:00 for you. springfield and hartford around 6:00 p.m. so, again, colin is exiting. a nice quite weather pattern the rest of the week. new york city in for a nice day today. a chance of a stray shower later today and cool weather tomorrow. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. l alive"♪

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>> i got to tell you, according to the news, we're on the brink of a historic, historic,

unprecedented moment, but we still have work to do, don't we? we have six elections tomorrow and we're going to fight hard for every single vote, especially right here in california! if we can win here in california, south dakota, north dakota, do well in new jersey, we're going to go into that convention with enormous momentum. >> bernie sanders last night vowing to fight on. the speeches came after the ap and the nbc news declared her the presumptive nominee setting hillary clinton up to become the first woman to secure a major party nomination. >> i'm asking you. i'll tell you, mark, i was surprised by it. again, i mean, they're calling it the presumptive nominee.

we don't know what happens between now and the convention. the super delegates vote at the convention. you can't put those in her column until we see what happens. there are other things going on. there are investigations going on. i think you wait until actually the super delegates. >> trump is the presumptive nominee but i guess -- >> trump is over his number and he doesn't have to wait to see how people are going to vote at the convention. pledged delegates. >> yeah. look, let's pay homage to historic reality here. a woman securing a major party nomination. >> amazing. >> after florida in 2000, i became hard lines for anybody. it turns out there was voter error until it's certified. the press, as bob novak would say a lust for declaration. these are tallied. she's every bit as much the

presumptive nominee as trump except the fact there's somebody in the race. and super delegates, as sanders said, should change their mind. i think he should be given the time to change his mind. and not have to face a rush to judgment about the result. by the way, the press tallies these things. >> the press is tallying it -- not a super delegate has switched. >> but they could. >> but there's no other candidate against trump. >> there could be rules changes. >> if it relies on super delegates who declared publicly they support clinton or sanders or told nbc and/or the ap privately they support sanders. you try to add them up and they got across the threshold. the word "presumptive" covers a

lot of sense. >> that's true. >> but she'll be declared the winner of the new jersey primary before the votes are counted. >> yeah. you know, because there will be projections that say she's going to win new jersey. it's the same thing. >> presumptive. >> i don't think we should do it but that's the way the press operates. >> you don't agree? >> no. but i'm not singling her out. i'm not singling her out. that the votes be counted by party officials. congratulations to hillary clinton. >> meanwhile the super pac supporting hillary clinton's candidacy is attacking donald trump's soul. the new tv ad from priorities usa action set to air in battle ground states it talks about trump mocking a reporter's disability. something the candidate denies. >> i remember being in the ultrasound room and founding out daughter was going to be born

with a disability. she was born 20 weeks later on valentine's day. and she is a total blessing in our lives. >> grace is the happiest child you've seen. despite her medical challenges, she brings out the goodness in each person. that's what we see every day with grace. when i saw donald trump mock a disabled person, i was shocked. >> you ought to see this guy. i don't know what i said. i remember. >> that reporter he's talking about suffers from a chronic condition that impairs movement of his arms. >> the children at grace's school all know never to mock her. and so for an adult to mock someone with a disability is shocking. >> when i saw donald trump mock somebody with a disability, it showed me his soul. it showed me his heart. i didn't like what i saw. >> priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. what do you think? >> i think it's pretty good. the super pac said it will air in ohio, virginia, iowa, new

hampshire, and colorado along with two other ads. priorities usa said it will have spent $26 million on ads attacking trump's character by the start of the republican convention on july 18th. >> it's a piece of a larger message that you'll hear from the clinton campaign. he's a bully, he's mean-spirited, and this is just one corner of that. >> she's actually setting up that message to land perfectly in the minds of millions of americans. >> at a time when people are making up their minds. it's an important period now. and she's out there defining him. he's helping. >> he's defining himself. >> he's helping in a major way. >> he has no idea. >> the focus on the attacks on the judge are distracting from a lot of other problems with the fund campaign. they don't have a fundraising apparatus like the clintons. the clinton campaign just nuts

and bolts of presidential politics. this ad will go unchallenged in the short term because they figured out which super pac is supporting trump attack secretary clinton and fight back. and in the short term, as gene said, you know, trump thinks he can gear up for the convention and coast between now and then. >> he can't do it. again, mark, your co-host jo hileman wrote a piece saying this is what they're doing in may. they're going to paint romney as a cold-hearted person throughout this. define him by the time he gets to the convention so he can't turn that around in the fall. that's what they did. that's why we were saying here a month ago that trump has about six weeks to turn this ship around over the six weeks he's gone in the opposite direction.

it's been a disaster. even internally they'll admit he's been wasting time. the question is has it been pushed to the side. you know that statement probably came out and trump who sent it out stupid. >> there's so much to do. manfort has been on the job a couple of weeks and the things i listed surrogate operation, fundraising, super pac decisions -- >> is trump i think negnoring h? we saw man fort what type of campaign he wanted to run after the wisconsin debacle. he disciplined trump, kept him off tv and the sunday shows, manage the message a lot better. >> he's not listening to anybody. >> he's not listening to his family. >> he's not listening to ib anybody. >> no. >> and why not? why is he not listening to his family? >> he thinks he knows best. he thinks he knows best.

>> he's delirious. >> and the racist donald trump. that's a big part of the problem now. >> have an ad of real people, real americans who are speaking out against donald trump versus a guy using his time in the spotlight talking about his civil case. >> you can't -- >> he was born in indiana. >> for a lot of republicans, that contrast says that everything about where the race is now. because trump is simply doing this to defend himself. there's no benefit to the republican party. none. it's getting worse by the moment. >> they should be more than scared. they should be galvanized and acting. my god, are they blind? what has he done and said every step of the way that has given

them any hope he could work with them? at some point, they're the ones who have to deal with -- >> actually -- >> they have to do the math. all along the way in the primary process, there was this, there was that. there was this explanation, there was that explanation. there were the primary voters. this is blatant racism. >> and he can't say it's out of left field. you can't say that. >> paul ryan, it didn't come out of left field. >> he knew it all along. he knew what he was getting when he endorsed him. the must read opinion pages ahead. from video highlights to the top talkers. the "morning joe" news letter has new features added all the time. >> willie and i opened it up -- it's one of the last hotels in new york. (man) oh, looks like wmissed most of the show. (woman) and there's no way to restart it.

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mission and a huge distractions. i don't see it going anywhere. i don't -- i think in order to be a viable third party candidate, i think you have to have a national name id and a ton of cash in order to get even a blip on the radar. i think the people involved with it are embarrassing themselves. >> that was rnc chair reince priebus flat out reflecting david french as a viable third party candidate. >> i'm writing him now an e-mail saying you, sir -- >> ultimately david french did bow out of the of the race but there's plenty of daylight for somebody to challenge the two-party system. >> let me ask you this -- >> he's a constitutional lawyer and he joins us. >> we love you. so was bill kristol taking another hit of his bong one night and did he call you up and say, hey, dude, i got this great idea for you?

>> well, it was over dinner. so it wasn't a phone call. >> he was doing a bong hit over dinner? that's crazy. >> he was hungry. >> now you're putting words in my mouth. it's gotten so horrible out there that even i thought about this. look, you know, we have a situation for gop officials that are not just heading for the hills, they're endorsing the man. they're endorsing the man. you know, the question was could a complete outsider, somebody who had, you know, a decent biography come out and say to the american people, look, we can do better. >> yes. if you had $200 million. >> and i did a deep dive into it. there's a path. 65% of americans want to at least consider another option. >> could you have gotten on the ballots? that's -- >> you know because everybody is saying it's too late. other than texas, no deadlines have passed. >> that is the easiest question to answer. yes. absolutely. >> so an independent candidate

that is well funded could get on 49 ballots. >> absolutely. 48. there's a path to texas. yeah. so absolutely. the ballot access issue. ballot access blocks you. you haven't studied. there are people saying it's a $250 million challenge to get on ballots. divide that by ten. it's less than $25 million if you paid for every petition. there's a hunger out there. there's people willing to consider. and, you know, this is a path that is absolutely wide open. >> did trump operatives reach out to your family? >> my wife's family, yes. well, you know, it was probably one of the more ham handed attempts at intimidation, which out of the trump operation you can expect the most incompetent way possible. >> what happened? >> an individual called and said i'm sorry but i've been asked by the trump campaign to make sure that david knows this will be

really bad for him. which, you know, i learned about it after i made the decision. i assumed if i did this, look, i have been up against trump for some time. and the assaults on my family have been overwhelming just as a writer. the -- as everyone knows, trump has an online racist mob that he often stokes by retweeting some of these horrible white supremacists. that online mob is fond of pointing out i have a multiracial family and they have gone after my daughter in the worst way imaginable. it's one of the things -- >> i'm sorry. >> they've attacked you for having a multiracial family. >> you have no idea. threats. i've had neighbors who -- this is months ago before i considered this. neighbors who were nervous there were going to be attacks in our neighborhood. it's been -- he unlocked something terrible in this country. it's one of the reasons i was so

motivated to look at this. if nobody it stepping up but the reasoning that somebody is better than nobody. it's not always the case. i did more harm than good as somebody without a lot of name id coming forward without the natural constituency he could go, oh, look. there's that not many americans that oppose me. when there are millions. >> is that someone from the trump campaign called someone from your wife's family? >> they identified themselves as someone affiliated with the trump campaign who had been told to call, you know, a member -- they tracked down a member of my wife's family in tennessee. while this is going on. and i only learned about it later. you know -- >> you consider that a threat? >> i considered it a ham handed effort to intimidate me. >> if there is a path, as you have described in here, why have people like homichael bloomberg who could put a billion dollars into it. maybe he's not the perfect candidate to run down the middle. why haven't other people done

it? >> michael bloomberg took a look too soon, frankly, i think. if he waited awhile, i think he was worried he would take more votes from hillary clinton and end up electing trump. i think the candidate -- the independent has to come from the center right. that's where so much of the low hanging support is from the center right. it's an establishment group of voters from republican party can't abide trump. there's a constitutional tea party wing. i think they're willing to put aside the differences and say trump is a threat to the party of lincoln. when paul ryan endorsed him, the day before all of these horrific comments and i'm not going to use the phrase "mexican judge" i did but -- he's an indiana judge. who is an american hero hiding out from drug cartels. >> were you shocked that paul ryan endorsed donald trump the day after he started making his racist comments about this

indiana judge? >> at this point, nothing shocks me. i was profoundly disappointed. paul ryan is a good man. >> yeah, he is. >> what happened? >> eugene, you write in the washington post endorsing trump will leave a mark. imagine what a disaster it would be if this man were elected president. think about it. then consider your obligation as a citizens to prevent such a thing from happening. gop leaders who choose party unity over principle should know that there is no way back. when you embrace trump, you make a decision that will stay with you forever. i suspect that most of these establishment republicans who now meekly support trump believe he will lose perhaps badly and are positioning themselves for the aftermath. but that is no excuse for putting the nation in peril by endorsing trump and thus bettering his chances even incrementally. he's not going to change. he is who he is. the question for those who

cynically support him, who are you? >> gene, who are you? >> who are you, paul ryan? you know, sometimes you listen to paul ryan speak and he can be inspiring. he's a smart man. he claims intellectual leadership over the republican party yet he endorses donald trump who mocks and makes a travesty of the ideals that ryan proports to represent and uphold. you can go down the list. you know, marco rubio, you call him a con man. a con artist. >> by the way, marco rubio said you can't trust donald trump with the nuclear codes. >> exactly. he's saying hey, you know, let's give him the codes. i'll endorse him. if he wants me to speak on his behalf, you know, at the party, i'll do it. >> i know. and i don't understand the

calculations they're making and, frankly, i think that as the days go on, more and more of them will not understand the compilations they have made and figure out what, if anything, they can do about it. but, you know, this is just going to get worse and worse and worse with them. >> it's interesting. it's coming from both sides this morning. gene at the washington post and brett stevens at the "wall street journal" making almost the same arguments. if you get close to trump you're stained by history. do u i don't want to be attached to this in the eyes of history. >> do you think anybody will jump? >> it's not too late. >> how would it happen? how is not too late? >> you have to have existing constituency and resources you have yourself or mobilize instantly. if you get on the ballot on 45 or 48 states. you can get on the debate stage. what will the world look like in three months. it things continue like this.

and i couldn't agree more that, you know, this active endorsing is going to stain the reputations of these gop officials forever. the idea they step forward. they didn't have the moral courage to sit it out. not even sit it out. >> even wait and demand of trump. your muslim ban, drop this and that. let's talk economics. we'll have a debate between populist economics and conservative economics. they could have done that. they refused to do it. they rushed in line. >> and they did it because what i believe is a blip. he got close to hillary clinton while hillary clinton is embroiled on a big fight in the democratic side. all of a sudden, it looks like he has momentum. to me it's political cowardess. the people involved in talking with me are embarrassing themselves. he's embarrassing himself. here is a talented man, an inciteful man with a lot of god-given talent and using it to advance trump.

he's going to look back not a year from now, five months from now and say what was i doing? >> i would think he's looking at it now. >> i would hope. >> saying wait a second donald trump just questioned the integrity and character and the honesty of a man born in indiana in the midwest. just like reince priebus because of where his parents were. >> his parents worked hard. >> this is pretty straightforward stuff. >> is think any chance that we in the media and others are making a mistake in saying this is a big problem for donald trump as we did so many times during the primary or is it completely -- >> can i answer that? >> at this point i'm of the view that we -- it's likely he'll sail through this. i think here is the thing, a lot of americans are on a learning curve with him. i was on a learning curve. i did a humbling thing a couple of months ago. i looked at what i wrote about donald trump in august of last year.

and i wasn't for him by any stretch. but i wasn't taking it seriously. i admit that. i think there are a lot of americans at this point and as the days and weeks go by, everybody has a different breaking point. where they say this is enough. you don't want to believe he is actually racist. you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. he's not earning it. >> he's not earning it at all. >> david french, it's nice to see you. thank you very much. sorry for what your family has been through. >> and sorry for having to have dinner with bill kristol. >> yeah. >> it was a great dinner. he's a patriot. a great man. >> yeah. hillary clinton isn't just looking past bernie sanders. she's looking past donald trump, too. new york magazine is looking at how a candidate is just shaking off the primaries and planning her post inauguration policies. "morning joe" will be right back. you totaled your brand new. nobody's hurt, but there will still be pain.

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banner. even donald trump said that's too white. bernie sanders campaign yesterday ahead of the state's democratic primary in california and check odded the famous car . it got a little awkward when the music stopped and bernie wouldn't admit it was over. >> welcome back to "morning joe." tuesday, june 7th. we have mark halperin, msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt, pulitzer prize winning columnist eugene robinson. and in washington, nbc news political director moderator of meet the press, chuck todd. also, msnbc contributor and editor of "the fix" chris cillizza. >> what it going on? >> i fought to see leadership in washington. i think the republican party has a new day ahead of it. they finally have realized they

need to -- >> no, they haven't! specifically. what is going on. what is going on with donald trump now? what is happening? >> how would you gauge this campaign? >> he's going backwards. he's not doing what his advisors are telling him to do. these not doing what his family is teaming him to do. he appears to be combusting over a civil lawsuit. >> where is the sense of urgency in the rest of the republican party? this is what has happened in the last five days. i saw you guys yesterday, i think i heard mark say there's something about this one that is leaving a mark. every other one of these moments that we thought were the moment that was going to, you know, that trump was going to have to deal with in a bigger way they sort of went away. this one doesn't feel like it's going to go away. and i'm just confused where is the sense of urgencied in the republican party? they have five or six weeks to do one thing or another. right. either figure out a way to get

trump to change his tone or tune or figure out a plan b >>well, bloomberg politics reports that on a conference call with surrogates, donald trump demanded they intensify their attacks on the judge and others involved in the case involving his for-profit real estate course trump university. according to bloomberg, trump told the surrogates -- he didn't. he really didn't. i can't believe it. >> it's instru dedestruct. >> it is destructive. attack the press all you want. we've been attacked since guttenberg invented the printing press. but eroding the rule of law. eroding trust in the judicial system. that is a slippery slope

>>well, here is the thing. trump is going to be attacking hillary clinton on all levels. >> right. >> personal levels. we all predict it's going to get ugly. >> right. >> i actually think he's just undermined any attempt at that being effective. because he's just proved he can't be believed. this judge has been proven to not be, first of all, what donald trump says he is. but trump has said about him is racist. he is completely undercut his credibility across the board. now any attacks look stupid, ugly, and possibly wrong. >> what an impressive judge he's gone after. >> the governor arnold schwarzenegger said the judge is an american hero. he fought the drug cartels at the expense of his own safety. he had to have protection. the list goes on and on. we have chuck here and chris cillizza. what is this strategic move? is it about winning a lawsuit or

politically what is he doing? >> willie, did you use the word "strategic." there's nothing strategic about this. unless he's trying to -- [ talking over each other ] >> i was going to say in the primary, chuck, he had a reason. he knew the muslim ban played well with a certain segment of the electorate. who does it play well with in a general election? >> what do you mean calling freedom indiana -- >> yeah. if there's a strategy behind it, i don't have any idea of what it is. i think i think he thinks he's going to bully the judge into recusal. where is his side's motion to ask for a new judge? >> well, -- >> that whole thing. this makes this even more bizarre in that he claims this bias and yet they have made no formal request.

>> and he call s his own people stupid. it undermines everything he could do in terms of attacking his opponent in the general election. because he's been proven to be somebody who does not tell the truth. who does not dial back when he should. he doesn't apologize when he said something racist. he's throwing stuff out there. vomiting it out and not picking it up. >> what is the "the fix's" take on this. last night talking points came out and said that the judge should recuse himself. >> he wanted to take a leave. he's not going to. >> what is "the fix's" position on this? >> the strategy appears to be run republican primary race in a general election. you know, trump won by running to the sort of hard right and appealing to voters who fed up with obama, fed up with, you know, the way things are. the problem is, you know, he's going to win at the end of

today. he's probably going to win around 12.5 to 13 million votes tops. mitt romney got 60 million votes when he lost in 2012. obama got 65 million. the idea that you can do exactly what you did in the primary, which is say stuff that is clearly meant to be controversial, refuse to apologize, despite leaders in your party calling on you to. that will work -- he was dealing with the republican primary electorate that was primed for a message like his. obama is bad. the republican leadership is dumb, and we need someone to fix it. >> my staff is dumb. >> right. the problem is the hispanic community, highly educated whites, you know, he needs to appeal to people outside of the sliver of the sliver which got him the nomination. and that's just a reality. look, he got about 37 or 38% of the overall vote in the republican primary, which is a piece of a larger piece of the

party. it won't work -- i don't honestly know. the idea there's a strategy here, willie, i wonder about. right. i think he just kind of wings it and we connect some of the dots and i don't know if he connects them. >> the clinton campaign must be just jump agent the bit. >> i think we knew that trump won the republican primary on his instincts. right. and his instincts were such that, you know, they were in many ways better than the instincts of a lot of the republican party establishment, mitt romney knew that. it became obvious. but it's clear now, you know, we raised the question is he going to have the instincts for the general election. i think it falls into the category of an example of not doing it. he's not willing to let anyone around him challenge his instincts. i think the reporting from bloomberg shows it. >> so, gene robinson, the entire world -- and just the bottom

line is what he is being told the truth, by the way, he's wrong. trump, you were wrong. >> yeah. >> you were wrong to call out this judge this way. you are wrong to speak in a racist way. you are wrong in every way about who this guy is. and exactly about how you want to play this game with this days. you are wrong. is anyone saying that to himmed in the campaign or is he just calling them stupid like he called staff members in that phone call? >> it doesn't seem to be matter. i would assume somebody, somebody must be saying, you know, boss, take a look at this. this is hurting you. but it's not penetrating. >> he doesn't listen. >> it's not penetrating. not even a millimeter. [ talking over each other ] this is totally self-interested. he's not arguing some sort of national policy or anything

about the country. he's arguing about his whining about his own civil suit on this scam university he was running. and, you know, people are not going to get that. they're going to get there. [ talking over each other ] >> his supporters would say you attack donald trump. you're helping hillary clinton. donald trump is helping hillary clinton. he's getting her one step closer to electing her and nominating liberal supreme court justice. >> here's a theory that was presented to me. it connects to the unreleased tax returns. donald trump's business record is front and center in his campaign now. i'm a successful businessman. the way trump u operated brings up the themes that people who are critical of trump's business practices play to make part of the election. he's using this opportunity to

discredit any attacks on his record. how much he's made -- >> it doesn't matter. he's done it in a way that is wrong. >> i'm not saying it's a good strategy. or a strategy. i'm saying this is attempt, according to one theory, to try to inoculate himself against any attacks on his business record. there are people who looked at the facts of the case and say it represents a lot of problems. >> everyone is like this is when it's over and we've said no. no, it's not. oh, no. i will say this botched a lot for donald trump. i don't know how he comes back from this. if he doesn't apologize for being completely wrong. completely 100% across the board wrong and damaging to the fabric of this country. if he doesn't dial it back and apologize i think he botched his candidacy. >> i was going to say, i think the problem here is it shows -- we've talked a lot he has a small campaign staff. all of that -- none of that

matters because he doesn't think he's ever wrong. he doesn't -- he cannot admit he's wrong. if he gets advice. [ talking over each other ] >> that's the worst thing you can be in campaign politics. joe knows this. if you don't have somebody who can say i'm with you most of the time. i'm your guy but in this situation do you didn't do it right and you're better off getting it solved quickly and you don't listen. you go the other direction. he spent 11 minutes talking about it last night. >> i had three people in the office. if all three say no i can't do it unless i convince one. it got ugly at times. but it kept me -- so there's a story on the top of page 6, which we haven't talked about. yahoo! stunned by couric mess. there's a story about the producer. have you seen this? where the producer completely

cut out all these questions to gun owners and makes them look like bumbling idiots. >> their responses. >> where, you know, if what was it about background checks or something. what would happen, and it just showed shots of them looking stupid. just like wow. stumped them with the question for about ten seconds. it ended up they were smart enough to record the whole thing and they all had very quick, eloquent responses. >> without pause or music. >> apparently the producer that did this in the yahoo! documentary. has anybody seen it? >> i've seen it and heard the audio. it's one of the most stunning things i've seen as far as just a complete, complete hit job on a group of americans. just stunning. >> yeah katie couric initially

said she stands by the movie. then she came out with a long apology after seeing the edit. she asked a question, then there's an 8 or 9 second pause where it's shots of the audience of gun rights advocates looking like they were stumped by the question. >> cut to a gun. >> unfortunately for the director of the film, the full tape was produced by this group that showed them giving long, thought out 10 minute response to the question. >> examples of how to prevent guns from falling into the hands of felons which was the initial question. >> the answers were about the rights of gun owners. if you served your time in society, you should have the same rights as everybody else. there are legitimate arguments in the debate over background checks and gun ownership. >> i didn't see the clip but i read about it. >> it's stunning. how about you guys? yeah, i've read about it, joe. i haven't seen the clip. it sounds like the kind of thing that you don't do journalistically. >> have you seen it?

>> haven't seen it but i'll say this is exactly what we don't need. i mean, this is the exact kind of thing that convinces people who support gun rights that the other side is sort of plotting against them. you know, this is the good will goes right down the toilet. you're trying to have a conversation. >> chuck, have you seen it? >> only the clip and the controversial part of the clip. i didn't -- i have not watched the whole documentary. i don't -- of all issues, if you're a part of something like this, i can tell you, when i deal with certain issues i know are polarizing on the left or the right, right, that are just fire somebody up. you look at it seven times. eight times. nine times. you just scrub it because you don't want something small to take away if you have a larger point to make. >> the producer, i guess, you need to see. it's one of the most shocki ini

things i've seen in my life. >> it was not just the producer. it was everybody who put together the documentary. because the process, as you know, is a collective process from everybody works together and dukes out, you know, and kind of makes sure it's fair. it's not just one person. that's never -- always blame the producer. >> documentaries have to be factual. >> yeah. >> if you can, get the clips. we'll play them later in the show. people will be stunned . >> it was presented an even-handed look. an even-handed conversation about guns. anded ed as chuck said this pie underme undermines it all. still ahead on "morning joe" -- >> i was the one that broke the glass ceiling on behalf of women more than anybody in the construction industry and my relationship, i think, is going to end up being very good with women. >> donald trump shatters the glass ceiling. ahead, just in nancy pea low see

endorsed hillary clinton. two democrats in california. a divided party and unpopular war. >> we're not talking about sanders and clinton. rather kennedy and mccarthy. tom bro haw as a fascinating look at parallels between 1968 and today. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. hmmmmmm..... [ "dreams" by beck ] hmmmmm... hmmmmm... the turbocharged dream machine. the volkswagen golf gti. part of the award-winning golf family. whatwherever you are.ing. spnda zero is fun, easy way to get the perfect amount of sweetness, down to the last sip. zero calories.

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excuse me. >> what do you say to women -- >> excuse me. excuse me. excuse me. excuse me, madam. >> i'm asking a question -- >> other hands are up as well. >> what do you say to women that say you staying in the race -- you're standing in the way of what could be the first female president. >> is that a serious question? >> any woman running for president anyone who opposes -- that any woman that any person that any woman who is running for president is by definition the best candidate. so any woman who runs. to say it is sexist. that any -- so if hillary clinton runs for president is

your point it is sexist for any man to oppose her? >> if she had more delegates -- >> that's another point. >> that was bernie sanders in a testy exchange with a new york times reporter and worth noting for the first time in weeks hillary clinton took questions from the media cackling with them. joining us now tom brokhaw, jeff greenfield. tom, you were looking at parallels between the current race and 1968 >>well, for jeff and me, it's like groundhog day. jeff was a speech writer for robert kennedy at that time. i think the 1968 california primary was the kind of classic campaign they ever covered. just that short period of time. bobby kennedy against mccarthy. johnson stepped down. counter culture is running amuck. doctor king had been killed not

too long before that. think about all in play. these two irish catholics from opposite ends of the pew who loathed each other, frankly, came to california and a lot was at stake. bobby felt if he won he could persuade daily to support him and get the mom fashion. this is what it looks like in california in the month before the election itself. >> i shall not see and not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president. >> lyndon johnson's stunning announcement a little more than two months before california would go to the polls plunges the democratic party into chaos. senator eugene mccarthy used the unpopular vietnam war to push johnson from the race, but now bobby kennedy, a 42-year-old senator from new york. >> i came to the state of california to ask for your help.

>> the two men shared a faith, a party, and a mutual contempt for each other. irish catholics from opposite ends of the pew. mccarthy, cool, cerebral. >> i thought the time had come to divide the party if it was not already divided. >> kennedy instinctive. >> i will work with all of you. give me your vote! >> they did share a mutual passion against vietnam where more than 15,000 americans would die before the year was out. kennedy, a rock star in black and hispanic neighborhoods lead into white college students avoiding vietnam with deferments. they went into the final hours swinging away. exhausted. >> you know what we need in this country, really. we don't have much belligerence. >> kennedy won by less than five

points and saw the nomination within his grasp. >> but there would be no chicago. robert francis kennedy was murdered in a kitchen passage by a palestinian busboy. in the end, kennedy and mccarthy, for all their personal differences shared more views than not. today the clinton/sanders race, however it turns out, will be about beating trump, if they can heal their wounds of the primaries. >> jeff, of course, you were there. obviously the shot was bobby on june 6th, 1968. give us your thoughts of being right there. >> the thing that keeps coming back to me, you know, 48 years later is he was 42 years old when he was killed. so whether or not he would have gone on to the nomination a

speculative. but the fact that for 20 or 30 years we were deprived of a challenging kind of voice. challenging the orthodox liberalism of this party. trying to fuse the conservative belief with the progressive belief in caring. the fact that the party and more importantly the country was deprived of that voice, i think, was a real loss to this country. and quickly, the second thing that strikes me those debates 1968 were about serious matters. not just between the two of them. mccarthy and kennedy but between kennedy and the democrats and nixon and reagan running in '68. very different time. >> it's remarkable to hear in your piece, tom, mccarthy stand at podium and say it's time to divide the party. it's not that you wouldn't hear politicians say that today. it's bring the party together. how does hillary clinton do to her party what wasn't necessarily done back in '68 to bring it to together in a way that can advance the cause and keep some of those things that

bernie sanders brought into the race. >> that's going to be the big trick for her. it's a different charge for her. she has to unite the party and bring the younger voters to her side that bernie sanders had trailing him around like the pied piper. that was a classic campaign in my judgment. because the issues that jeff raised. there were real issues at stake here. we were at war. people were dying every day. it was a great cultural divide in the country. race was even bigger than it is now. we have the two articulate people who represented not just such different parts of the party, but had such different attitudes how you should do it and personalities were so much different. people say we've never seen anything like this before. the fact we went through something in '68. >> yeah. >> the part, of course, that dominates this race has was the permit -- personality of donald

trump. the one key thing that will help h hillary clinton unite the party is donald trump. particularly the last week or two. having see nothing that hurt donald trump in the primary. all the things i thought and other people that said you have to wonder whether or not her task is going to be made easier by the sheer fact that the last week of donald trump's behavior has reached a level that is left a lot of people, including me, absolutely jaw-dropingly flabbergast flabbergasted. >> what i don't understand, by the way, if mitch mcconnell and speaker ryan that came out for him are saying we hope he'll change. i don't know how he changes from this position. what did he say in a week? i was wrong. that's not donald trump. he's not going to say i over stepped there. it's not going to happen. they're stuck with what they've got, at this point. it seems know, going to the convention. >> last question. we're a day or two left after

the passing of bobby kennedy. you look back at those films, especially the california campaign. i don't think i've ever seen as much excitement around a single plit candidate as bobby in 1968. would you agree with that? >> i would, all though there was a different kind of passion around mccarthy. it was quieter but he had a real group of people who were as devoted to him. it was in the end, a close race. when bobby first came to california, jeff will remember this well, and i think that might be a picture -- but his hair was longer and they put him in the neighborhoods. when he arrived the burbank airport it looked like a triumph for him. within the campaign they said that's not what we need to do. we need to get him a haircut and get him into white middle class in the san fernando valley. >> he would say i can't run in these neighborhoods. every time they go to a white

upper class neighborhood he said when i am going back. i was 24 and i thought this is a normal campaign. 20,000 people show up at an airport there are near, you know, clammous conditions. it was 1968 will be a year that will be hard to explain to later generations and still is. >> tom brokhaw and tom greenfield. >> tom brought some pictures. >> i spent a lot of time with ali. he came to the "today" show. howard bing ham was his photographer. the champ shows up on the "today" show and kind of unannounced and sits down. we had a great exchange in which he did that great thing when i said a lot of people believe you have lost a little speed and he said hold up your hand. he said want me to hit it again. [ laughter ] and then is later. this is in atlanta. howard, the photographer, called me and said come up to the champ's booth.

when he lit the flame that day, and no one knew, i burst into tears. and seeing him again in the fragile fashion it was hard to accept. everything has been said about him in the last few days, but he was, for me, the most charismatic american i had ever encountered. about how he lit up the world not just this country and how he always stayed in control of who he was on his own terms. and there's a lot to be said for that. but he changed this country in so many ways. we looked at everything differently because of him. >> tom brokhaw, thank you. coming up on "morning joe." >> if hillary cannot win a general election without our support, she doesn't deserve the nomination. wait until the republicans start campaigning against hillary in a real active way.

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joining us now former mccain senior campaign strategies and msnbc political analyst steve schmidt, msnbc anchor and political correspondent steve cor corp. knacky. and we have hallie jackson. >> steve is the rage. is that picking up? >> i'm in uncomfortable suit. >> so now you might -- [ talking over each other ] >> my, gosh, we're talking about what at risk for the republican party now. am i overstating it to say when you got a guy that is being racist against a federal judge born in indiana that republicans up-and-down the ballot could be endangered if they don't the right way? >> yeah. i think not only in danger but i think you're seeing all of the beginnings, all the outlines of devastation for the republican party. you know, i think we're certainly setting up the conditions to lose the united states senate and to see a

largest house majorities in the history of the country, you know, shrink down to 10 seats or under. it's a devastationing moment for the modern republican party. >> what does paul ryan need to do? what does mitch mcconnell need to do? >> you think about paul ryan and you think about hiss endor endo of trump. he got nothing for it. he didn't get him to back off the muslim ban or any of the -- >> why not? >> maybe because he's a bad negotiator. i don't know, joe. but certainly, you know, i know who got the better end of the deal, and i knew who, you know, represented the losing proposition for the republican party in that deal. which is paul ryan. >> yeah. >> and so i think paul ryan is a good man. i think he's a decent man. but you can't -- the republican party from donald trump's positions here. >> mika, you said on friday, i think, paul, you're going get nothing for it. got nothing for it. you're going to get nothing for

it. and trump has proven you right. >> i think it's unbelievably instructive to his reputation. it's a stain. it's a tattoo he just got. stories around trump university are continuing to develop. the associated pretsz reports that florida's attorney general personally solicited a political contribution from trump around the same time that her office deliberated joining new york state's investigation of alleged fraud in trump university's activities. the money came from a trump family foundation. a political consultant who worked on attorney general pam bondi's campaign tells the ap that she and trump spoke several weeks before her office publicly announced whether to join the lawsuit. and that she asked for the donation before she was aware of dozens of consumer complaints about trump's real estate seminars. a group backing bondi's re-election reported receiving

trump's $25,000 donation in september of 2013, four days after her office announced it was considering the probe. back in march, the washington post reported trump aid said the donation was a mistake. the mistake was made all the worst because it was not reported to the irs. the group supporting pam bondi and justice for all, the charity listed a donation of justice for all a wichita-based nonprofit who said they never got the money. >> did she join the suit or not? >> not joined -- >> she ended up not joining the suit. florida did not join the suit. steve, the rage, i bet it makes you angry. >> to get back to what -- >> i'm talking about in general trump and the judge and now o'riley and other republicans circling the wagons for him. >> the interesting one is ted cruz. you played the clip yesterday. he's not yet endorsed trump and

i was talking to rick tyler who worked with ted cruz's campaign for most of the race. he doesn't think ted cruz is going to endorse donald trump before it's over. he may end up being the highest profile hold out on the republican side. >> marco rubio, i think, grappling with the same things. he's further down this kind of acceptance of donald trump than ted cruz, but my question for you is who is left standing if, in fact, the trump campaign continues ends up off the rails at the end of this. are there any republicans left to pick up the mantle? >> well, we don't -- look, it's the beginning of june. right. we have a long way to go with donald trump as the nominee of the republican party. you know, assuming he becomes the nominee. so i think that you look at marco rubio and the other candidates. i think there will be a clear dividing line going forward for the future of the republican party between people who

accommodated donald trump, and people who held out on principle and said i can't do this. >> i can't endorse him. >> if he stays on this track, and, you know, the big question was he won the nomination in an unorthodox style, to say the least. but i think there was a belief that over the last five weeks that having put away the nomination he's going to surround himself with the a-list that he talked about. >> by the way, that's what everybody around trump, including family members said was going to happen. he wins the nomination, he's not going to have the people fighting him, and he's going to raise it to a completely different level. >> completely different level and he was a disrupter. a 17-person steel cage match. he had to do to win. having won it -- the choice wasn't going to be a continuation of the tactics to win the primary.

it was going to be a clear choice on the issues. he was going to have the best people around him. he was going elevate. he was going bring his a game. he was going to have the right tones. >> and just for the record, before we go to halle. along the way, when a lot of things like this similar to this, not as bad as this happened, but some were equal like the muslim ban. we denounced it because it's so obviously denounceble, even though it's not necessarily our role in the media. but we said it would work. i'm telling you, this won't work. it will not work. >> we denounced it -- >> disqualifying and we felt strongly about it personally. this is undermining donald trump's ability to attack hillary clinton. >> let's go to halle. -- >> he's proving that nothing he says can be believed. even when he's wrong, he will not back down. halle, how are people on capitol hill responding to this? >> reporter: you're seeing just wide spread condemnation from almost everybody on capitol hill

that has spoken so far. there have been notable hold outs. republicans that not commented. i look at senator mark kirk. we reached out for a comment on this judge situation with donald trump and the response completely looked past any mention of trump or those comments. we went back at the office and asked for a comment and didn't get one. you're seeing silence from republicans who aren't commenting. we're seeing from ted cruz who didn't comment and when we hunted him down responded calling it inappropriate. again refusing to talk about any kind of endorsement of trump. he didn't answer questions last night about whether he will actually endorse donald trump, or, you know, alternatively not endorse and come out and say he will not be voting for him in the fall. we expect to see him on the hill today. people like senator lindsey graham who quoted in the new york times at some point love of country trumps hatred of hillary

which is a significant statement coming from graham. so, you know, there's nobody. there's no notable republican. really, who has come out and backed trump up on this. >> i guess good news is that, you know, if you take cruz, it was worse for him because at least with this judge, out of indiana, donald trump didn't accuse his father of killing jfk. >> that's true. remember that? >> thank god for small favors. >> i will say, i think, we were talking a little bit earlier about gapping with the difference between what he did in the primary which worked and whether or not this will work in the general election. i think hillary clinton's campaign, to a certain extent, had been treading very carelifully when the remarks about the judge came out. it took them a beat. ch it's almost they were evaluating. and i think to a certain extent there were people who were surprised at inside the clinton campaign about how it's going. and i think they're cautious. they don't want to take it for

granted. >> it's being done for them. they can just sit back and enjoy the ride. any attack that comes from trump, undermiwill be undermines inability to tell the truth. >> let's talk about california. does bernie catch hillary in california? >> it looks like a toss up. it looks like a slight edge now for hillary clinton and the big wild card is the news of hillary clinton being declared the presumptive nominee. will that affect voting today. is there going to be a backlash? are people going to say not so fast i'm standing up to the media or people say okay i guess she's the candidate. going to sign a support here or no effect? if you had to set the line going into tonight, she's probably favored by two points. we'll see. >> i was out there on the ground, and it normally it's you can kind of get a sense of which way something like that is going to turn. i was there for a week. i still left feeling exactly that way. it seems like the complete toss up. i will say her speech seemed to be a major turning point in

california in addition to kind of nationally and the way we talked about her. >> the foreign policy speech? >> tell us -- >> it's a late-breaking state. a low information state. california is not a state like others where politics is going to be front and center on the news every night. it doesn't giveaway to the freewaychase. and so it's really hard to tell what's going to happen in that state. you look at the polls. you see a registered voter poll close. you look at all the likely voter polling coming out of california. hillary clinton has a substantial lead, which suggests to me that hillary clinton is going to be more than okay out there tonight. >> all right steve schmidt, steve kornacki, hallie jackson, thank you all. still ahead, republican senator bob corker will be our guest. we're back in a moment. we're good. okay... what if a million people download the new app? we're good. five million?

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the judge belongs to a group called san diego la raza lawyers which does advocacy work on behalf of latinos. it's not associate with the radical la raza group but confusion is understandable. because of that, mr. trump apparently believes the judge may be biased against him, as it is well known the candidate has taken a strong stand against illegal immigration. the trump u case is certainly political to some extent, and it's a very high-profile situation. because of that, talking points believes the judge should recuse himself. not because he did anything wrong. he didn't. but to eliminate any doubt as to the motivation in court rulings.

>> no, that didn't happen. >> did he just say that -- >> oh, he's so wrong. >> did he just say that because trump called -- >> it was a parody. >> he should recuse himself? or because trump made a racist statement about this judge, the judge -- is that the new standard that we set? >> that apparently is -- >> you know what you call that? >> killing justice right there. >> there's a title. there's a book. >> or a really bad -- >> willie, that's staggering. it's staggering that you ally have a defendant in the case making racist comments about a judge highly decorated judge -- >> who took on -- >> honorable judge. >> took on the mexican drug cartel. >> exactly. slight detail there. >> yes. >> that makes it even worse. >> because a defendant makes a racist comment about a judge,

talking points says he must recuse himself? >> who is talking points? >> remember it's talking points. it's not o'reilly himself. >> the collective -- >> once you point out this is certainly not a fox news position because megyn kelly on the same evening took exactly, of course, the opposite position saying this is ridiculous. this is absurd. what trump is saying about the judge is, you know, a lawyer who tried to make this argument would be sanctioned. it's just incredible. >> i'm sorry. arnold schwarzenegger came out yesterday who is governor and appointed judge curiel and schwarzenegger said judge curiel is an american hero. quote a guy who stood up to cartels. we'll talk more about this. trump had this call yesterday where, far from backing off. he ramped it up and encouraged all his surrogates to -- >> you need to read the piece

about this guy's life. trump could not be more wrong. >> while i was doing my afternoon needle pointing. it's gotten a lot better. the smoky mountains. it's a beautiful scene. while i'm needle pointing and everything, right, i'm also on ancestry.com and i'm looking over there and i realize that donald trump's mother came to the country about the same time that this judge's mother came to the country. and i put down my rocky mountain scene and i said, wait a second. if we're judging americans, right, right -- >> on their history? >> donald trump is no more american than this judge. this is insanity. they went all whack-a-doodle on this conference call. can i ask a quick question?

>> no. >> thank you. >> mark halperin, what is going on. i saw what about don rickles last night. how many million people watch? >> armed forces 2? >> 72 million across the world. >> if you add armed forces radio across the planet watching -- and last night you guys started asking the question that we've been asking for a while here. at this point, does he want to win? or has this really become -- >> just a destruction of the republican party for fun. >> a crazed reality tv show where he -- >> he just gored it. >> and basically destroy the republican party letting hillary walk into the white house. >> the convention is far enough away that some republicans are fantasizing about is there a way to stop this because -- >> they have to. >> there would have to be at this point. >> they are concerned that he will not listen on something as fundamental as this, as --

>> concern the word or -- >> back up a little bit, guys. >> their concern is, he's doing this for himself. this is about his own private litigation. nothing to do with helping the republican party. >> no, no, he's ruining it. >> if he'll do this much damage to the republican party for his own self, they are worried about him and what might happen in the next five months. >> all the leading republicans who had endorsed him revoked their endorsements yesterday. they were so smart. >> one after another. >> one after another. >> scroll the list. >> it's june 7th. gene washington is here. >> who called him gene washington? >> donald trump. >> personal friend of mine. >> as he was denouncing mine but adding parenthetically, a man i like. a man i like. >> it's identifying people where they live. gene of washington. >> gene robinson. >> i'll stick with robinson, if

i can. >> bloomberg reports on a conference call with surrogates, trump demanded they intensify their attacks on judge curiel and others involved in the case involving his for-profit real estate course trump university. according to bloomberg, trump told his surrogates, we will overcome, and i have always won, and i'm going to continue to win. and that's the way it is. it goes on. when former arizona governor jan brewer interrupted the suggs to inform trump that his own campaign had asked surrogates to stop talking about the lawsuit in an e-mail on sunday, trump immediately overruled his staff. "take that order and throw it the hell out." >> but that came from the staff. hold on. hold on. that came from the staff. >> that's right. right? >> he's very, very, very small staff. >> so his staff puts out an order, stop talking about this. >> his tv staff. >> i predicted here on the

program yesterday -- >> you did. >> -- that trump would realize this is a huge mistake and apologize and try to unring the bell. my bloomberg colleagues -- >> some of the best in the biz -- >> said we've heard about this conference call. well, clearly, he apologized. turns out there's a little phrase willie likes to use call doubling down. >> so trump apparently said, are there any other stupid letters that were sent out to you folks meaning from his very small campaign? that's one of the reasons why i want to have this call because you guys are getting sometimes stupid information from people that aren't so smart. >> so donald trump has a small campaign. >> it's tiny. >> so he really hasn't had to hire that many people. so you'd think if he doesn't have to hire that many people, he's not going to screw up that badly with the people he hours

a. >> could meet in a phone booth. >> could meet them in a phone booth and have a 12-course meal inside that phone booth with elbow room. >> apparently he went out and hired people who weren't that smart. >> if this guy is going to be hiring people to run washington, d.c., he can't even pick a few people that he's already calling stupid. his own people that he selected are stupid. >> bill clinton has an expression. couldn't organize two-car parade. >> speaking with reporters, campaign manager corey lewandowski wouldn't share details of the private call which covered multiple topics only that trump gave them the understanding that it should have been dismissed on summary jmts. the bloomberg report was not accurate but refused to specify inaccuracies. last night trump spoke with fox news host bill o'reilly who, as

you saw, call on the judge to recuse himself to eliminate doubt. >> if the judge recuses himself, it will be interesting. but i think the judge is an honest man. i don't think he's hosing you. i checked him. >> well, i hope so. i want him to be. i don't care about mexican or not mexican. all i want him to do is give me a fair shake. we have thousands of people saying -- why does this thing continue to go forward? >> all these times, every time i go. i want to talk about how lousy the economy is. i want to talk about how badly we're doing against isis. how badly we're doing on the border. every time i go into a show, all they want to do is talk about trump university. >> this is in the context of this discussion, which is just amazing that we're having, this may be a small point but what trump just said. all i want the judge to do is agree with me, right? and -- >> work it out. >> he is like tremendously

indignant and if anybody doesn't agree with him, it's like, he can't imagine that. there's got to be something wrong with the guy. >> put aside the bigotry for a second. let's talk political strategy. you have to think, what is donald trumping too here if he wants to become the president of the united states. if you're running off latino voters, if the argument after mitt romney's loss is he only won 23% of the latino vote and republicans may need to get 40% to win a general election. as a strategic matter, we know donald is very smart the way he ran his campaign during the primary. is this just about winning a lawsuit at the expense of becoming president of the united states? >> what are his endorsers doing? >> every republican in the country now is being asked to weigh in on it. the best anyone has done in defending him is to say, i wouldn't have said it that way, but let's move on. and you'll see editorials and the clinton campaign, the democratic national committee and harry reid, they are going

to run with this forever. this hasn't even played out. as long as trump continues to have this position, this thing is -- >> we'll have to talk about the difference between this and the muslim ban at some point because that was as abhorrent, but -- >> and then again, go back to republicans, gene, that say, well, gee, i was shocked by this. this -- paul ryan. this just came out of left field. no, it doesn't. there was a muslim ban back in december. we all said it was disqualifying. paul ryan held a press conference. condemned it. >> yeah. >> and he was making racist statements about this judge last week before paul ryan endorsed -- >> exactly. >> -- endorsed donald trump. >> it was all out there. the right hand heard about this. it just hasn't crossed -- >> it didn't come out of left field. >> this is not out of left field. this is in the mainstream of what trump has been doing and

saying. >> here's why for paul ryan it came out of left field. i hear what you're saying. >> he's naive? >> well, number one, in that case, remember, the hard, uncomfortable truth for the republican party was a lot of republicans agreed with trump on the muslim ban. a lot of republicans agreed with him. >> ryan didn't. >> ryan had to face the reality that a lot of americans agreed with donald trump. they also had hoped, which i know mika will say is a silly hope, but they had hope once he became the presumptive nominee he'd cut stuff like this out. >> it was up to them to make him. see bernie sanders right now? he's not out yet. he's going to get something out of this. elizabeth warren getting something out of the situation. that's how it works, too. i thought it was deal making. i thought you guys were so good at this. you guys, you republicans in washington, are negotiating like women 20 years ago. it's bad. you're being self-depp

reicating, naive, and you just think that everyone is going to be nice to you. and they give you nothing. nothing. right, jen? nothing. >> back of the hand. >> back of the hand. in fact -- >> so, yeah, the thing is, though, the muslim ban, you know, it's not something that you can swat away that easily. and if paul ryan wanted -- or if donald trump wanted paul ryan's endorsement, he could have said, you're going to have to back up this muslim ban. >> we've got some of the best people in national security. we can put together a package that will make sure it's tougher for terrorists to come into the united states than ever before. it will give you complete cover. >> we'll stand by your side. >> you can say, hey, i don't feel safe under barack obama's regime. but when i am president, regime of letting people in. when i am president, this is the regime we'll operate under. this is the matrix people have to go through to be in here.

>> instead he had happy talks. >> so here it is. and donald, lift the muslim ban n i'll endorse you, but he did nothing. >> he didn't extract anything in exchange for that. i don't understand what paul ryan would have lost by waiting it out. >> or demanding that publicly. >> you are starting to see cracks in it. lindsey graham in this piece in "the new york times." he said this is the most un-american thing from a politician since joe mccarthy talking about trump and judge curiel. if anybody was looking for an off ramp, this is it. there comes a time love of country will trump hatred of hillary. the pressure is on reince priebus, the chairman of the republican party because republicans, just a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about how republicans were all united and democrats were divided. there are a lot of donors and members of congress and candidates that would like to

figure out, can we run without the united with donald trump. >> kelly ayotte of new hampshire, and she faces a tough re-election fight in new hampshire. his comments are offensive and wrong, and he should retract them. that's fine. her campaign said she still incontini intends to support trump as a nominee. >> a two-step process. if trump continues to double down, at some point for people like kelly, ron johnson in wisconsin, portman in ohio, they're not going to be able to -- >> this becomes -- >> -- endorse a guy that makes racist statements about people born in indiana. >> this becomes a clear loser for them. >> people born in indiana. >> it becomes a clear loser for them. they're going to have to cut him loose. >> let's just stop right here. a lot of times we just stop and say, hold on. and for instance, during the republican convention if 2012,

all the republicans, wasn't that cool? we just stopped and said this is a disaster. the romney campaign is in deep, deep trouble, and they're going to lose if they don't turn things around. people went absolutely crazy. i got secured 24 hours a day on my twitter feed. you have no idea what you're -- it's time to stop right now and say this. republicans in washington, d.c., right now you're letting your presumptive nominee, who is making racist statements, run roughshod over what remaining national reputation we have as a national party. you have to start calling him out today. this is not where you can do the slow boil. you have to start calling him out and saying you are going to retract your endorsement of him today. or else the united states senate is in danger. kelly ayotte's seat is in danger. rob portman's seat is in danger. ron johnson's seat is in danger. a lot of other seats --

>> the party. >> -- are in danger. if the speaker of the house continues to endorse a man making racist statements and, really, tearing away at the very fabric of madison's separation of powers, it talks about an independent judiciary in the house of representatives is in danger. we will tell you this. remember, it may have drove you guys crazy in the fall when willie and i would say, what's today? we'd look at the day. trump is still ahead. you guys say he's going to fall. just look at the day. and we said he wasn't going to fall. he was going to win the nomination. what's today, willie? today is tuesday, june 7th, 2016. republicans, call him out. back away from those endorsements. make him back down on the muslim ban. make him back down on this racist comment that he's made about a man born in indiana saying he's incapable of being a fair judge. because of where his parents

were born. or else you will lose the senate. you will lose the house. you will lose the presidency. you will lose governorships. you will lose your standing as a national party. it's that simple. still ahead on "morning joe," senator bob corker says he doesn't condone donald trump's comments about judge curiel. when he joins us live, we'll ask him whether it changes his support for the presumptive nominee. plus -- >> tomorrow is a big day for america. >> go to the polls tomorrow and take your family and your friends. >> tomorrow in the most important primary in the whole democratic nominating process, we're going to win here in california. >> hillary clinton declared presumptive nominee, but bernie sanders vows to fight on. but first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast as tropical storm colin bears down on the east coast. >> florida still getting the

brunt of it. the tampa/st. peter area. had a minor storm surge and water overwashing in numerous areas. you can see this beach location. normally a beautiful place to have a lunch or dinner. yesterday it was about two feet under water. that water has since receded. didn't get a ton of structural damage. just a lot of overwash on the shores. right now in tampa, the storm is long gone. it's over north carolina. but a tail, almost like a cold front down to the south side of this has produced flash flooding early between tampa and ruskin. storms south of i-4. the storm itself is south of wilmington and you can see this is where the center of it is offshore. almost all of the rain is now exiting the southeast. only the outer banks has some nasty weather. here's the latest advisory. the 8:00 a.m. advisory just out from the national hurricane center. it's racing to the northeast at 33 miles an hour. they say max winds of 50. haven't seen any reports even close to that near land. that will be over the open water. by 2:00 p.m. today, starting to

clear the outer banks and increased from a tropical system to an extra tropical low. the other story late this afternoon, maybe isolated severe storms in new england. marginal risk for a good section of new england. this yellow area here is a slight risk. that's where we could see large hail. the timing on that does appear to be typical of late afternoon into the early evening. these are the scattered storms at 2:00 p.m. by 4:00 p.m. into the berk shisshish berkshires and summer weather continues. 90s from the west through texas. going to be 96 today in boise. new york city, looking for some coolish type weather now in the great lakes. that's heading your way as we go throughout the next two days. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ight here. oh no, i'll take you up to thfront of the school. that's where your friends are. seriously, it's, it's really fine. you don't want to be seen with your dad? no, it's..no.. this about a boy? dad!top, please.

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coming up on "morning joe," the past as prologue about how superdelegates dehave and why bernie sanders is ignoring his own precedent. chris jansing joins us with that. just weeks ago, "usa today" put him at the top of their power rankings as donald trump's running mate. senator bob corker joins us to talk about the presidential race.

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i was the very first person to call him out about the outrageous comments he made about immigrants calling them rapists and criminals. i was criticizing donald trump for his divisive, insulting, dangerous language a year ago last summer. and i have continued to point out that his kind of hateful rhetoric has to be repudiated no matter what party you are. >> it's a bizarre, bizarre world. there's former donald trump wedding guest hillary clinton talking about her condemnation of donald trump early on. and she certainly did. you were reading an article when i got on set. what article? >> associated press advancing some reporting you mentioned earlier that the "orlando sentinel" did about donald trump's relationship with the attorney general of florida.

contributions he and ivanka made to her causes and campaigns at the time she was considering whether to join the suit against trump university. what's problem atic for trump nw is all these things he's done are being seen in a different light as a potential president. as people know, he's bragged about the fact the reason he gave money to politicians was so they'd do what he wanted. he said i understand how the system works because i was a part of it. >> he said i'm a businessman. this is what i do. >> you brought up the wedding. i invited hillary clinton to my wedding because if i wanted something from her, i'm more likely to get it. this story if it were about a normal politician would look horrendous. there were a lot of stories like this before when he was running for the nomination. it's an interesting story based on the timing of her decision to not enjoin the suit and the

contribution. >> chairman of the foreign relations committee, republican senator bob corker of tennessee. he's been supportive of presumptive republican presidential nominee donald trump in the past, and met with the candidate last month to discuss policy. >> senator, thank you for being with us. before we go to the wonderful world of trump, why don't we figure out what's going on around the rest of the world where you have some say in u.s. policy. first of all, we understand that we are making some advances in fallujah. how is the war against isis on the ground going right now? >> it's not going well. it's been slow. it's urban warfare as you know. we have shia militias on the ground, the iraqi military, which really has not stepped up and been as good as everyone would wish for them to be. i think we know it's going to be a long slog. we've got a lot of work to do

there. joe, moving back to the issue, at the end of the day, we have a binary choice that's coming before us. if you think about the decisions that were made back in 2011, the incredibly immature incursion into libya that just -- we have 5,000 or 6,000 isis members there. you look at the precipitous leaving of iraq which has created this situation. you look at the fact that we encouraged the moderate opposition in syria and at a time when we could have made a difference. we department idn't do the thin >> the fact is that we've had a series of really bad decisions that have been made, and we've got to focus on the fact that we have a binary choice that is coming up. so if i could, i, look, i don't condone the comments about the judge. >> let me stay with foreign policy for one second, if that's

okay. so we've been hearing from some military leaders, also hearing from foreign policy leaders that we are making advances against isis on the ground. that their footprint is shrinking. again, i'm not cross-examining you. i'm hoping for some good news here. >> yeah. >> is what we're hearing, or at least truth check is what we're hearing from military leaders correct? is the isis footprint shrinking? are things getting better there? >> so we are making slow gains. i was in iraq at a time right before last june when we were planning to go into mosul at the time. obviously, it's june again. it's a year later. we haven't been able to make those moves yet. it's a slow slog. yes, we are making advances. that is true. and we should encourage additional advances to be made, no doubt. but it's been -- it's certainly taken much, much longer and we

gave up so much, and now we're back in with 4,000 troops doing what they're doing, and we appreciate those efforts. but we've lost years. we lost a lot of ground due to some really poor foreign policy decisions. >> let's go to mark halperin. >> you don't condone with your presumptive nominee said about the judge. can you enunciate why you think what he said was wrong? >> well, at every level. and, so, look, mark, i have listened to the program this morning. i read gene's fine editorial. and here's what i would say. every campaign gets to an inflection point, or at least most do. and we're at a point right now, joe, myself, so many people would relish being in the position that donald trump is in where he has a chance to change the trajectory of our nation.

i mean, what an opportunity is there. and so he has within his fingertips the opportunity to pivot, to move to the general election. look, in fairness, guys, secretary clinton certainly is an accomplished person, but there's no way that she is going to change the trajectory of this nation. as a matter of fact, she's going to double down going in a direction that is very negative. we have huge deficits. president obama is out there right now looking at -- he's moved away from the entitlement deal that he was willing to make years ago. now they're doubling down. so she is frozen in a place where there's no way that she can -- >> senator, could you -- >> he has an opportunity to pivot. he has an opportunity to realize there's been some mistakes made, and he has an opportunity to overcome that. >> senator, if -- >> if i can say one more thing. we're at a hair on fire moment. i'm saying, look.

it's up to him now to pivot. i want to encourage that. i've been criticized for saying some nice things about his foreign policy. look, when he gave the speech, it was at an important time. i thought it was a step in the right direction. i've tried to encourage the type of foreign policy that jim baker, one of my heroes in -- >> senator, but i'm sorry -- >> we've got to ask you some questions. >> he has had days of criticism over this. i'll just say again. enunciate, i'm sure mr. trump is watching. enunciate why what you think he said was not the proper thing to say. >> at every level. i mean -- >> what does that mean? >> to say that somebody because of their background or their ethnicity has -- doesn't have the ability to carry something out is wrong. that's not where we are in our country. and, look, in campaigns like this you have people coming at you. you've been involved in a

primary. you've been with primary people throughout it. this is a time for him to pivot and, by the way, i want to encourage that. and i want to remind people like joe that if he can do that, if he can, you know, move away from pride and say, hey, we sort of stepped in it here. we need to move in a very different direction. this is about unifying our country. by the way -- >> if he can pivot, he can do that. >> this is not about republicans and democrats. this is about -- >> please don't filibuster. >> hold on, mika. this is something we've been saying for the past four or five weeks. he has an ideal opportunity to pivot and mika, at every step of the way, he's failed at that. >> if he does not pivot because you have talked about your hope that he will, if he does not pivot from this, is he fit to be president? >> it is up to him to take advantage of the incredible

opportunity that anyone who cares about our nation would relish having to pivot and become the general election candidate that, by the way, there are armies of people that can help with treasury functions, with foreign policy, with commerce, that would be willing to come in and help a candidate, let's face it, that hasn't fully formed views on numbers of topics. part of what people like me do, joe, and mika and others, is to encourage into a direction -- >> sure. >> and this is -- >> that's -- he does not appear to be capable of being encouraged. >> if he doesn't pivot, is he fit to be president? >> this is a very important time for him. it is a very important time for our nation. and, you know, it is up to him,

and i'm going to encourage with every cell in my body until i see that maybe he doesn't take advantage of this to take advantage of the opportunity to change the trajectory. there is no way that secretary clinton is going to do that. it is not possible. it is not possible. so, yes, i am urging him through this television show to reassess, to realize where he is. and i'm saying to you, joe, that if he has the ability to do that, then certainly, you would want to be -- you want him to be president. so again, i -- >> i have been very clear for a very long time, since we talked about the muslim ban, since he pretended like he didn't know who david duke was that there were certain things that were disqualifying. he'd have to change his position on them. and so, yeah, i certainly am glad there are people like you that are encouraging him to not say a guy that's born in indiana

is incapable of being a fair judge. >> but if he does not pivot, is he fit to be president? >> but i -- >> i am -- >> i hear you. >> let me ask it this way. you've asked it three times. >> if he does not pivot, is he fit to be president? >> so mika, here's what -- i mean, i think semi prudent people do, they don't answer questions of conjecture. here's what people, hopefully, say is, look, if we get to a point where it is seen that the pivot is not capable, that there is really no way that this is going to evolve, ask me the question at that time. until that time, look, mistakes have been made. everybody's hair is on fire. i got it. these kinds of things -- >> actually, our hair is not on fire. >> what's your deadline? >> look, i think he's at a very important period of time. and i think over the next few

weeks, he has an opportunity to really move into the general election. joe and i have seen this happen multiple times where candidates are frozen in the primary process and don't move ahead. but let me just say one more time. all of us should be encouraged -- all of white house care about the trajectory of our nation should be encouraging at this moment and that's what i hope -- look. the comments that he's made are totally inappropriate and you've well documented that. i've documented that. >> senator, they're yelling at me to go. but i have to ask you because you've been talking about me a lot. i've got the greatest respect for you. i just want to make sure you feel like i do that he has missed an opportunity over the past four or five, six weeks, since people like you and me have been saying he needs to make the turn.

would you agree with me that he's missed an important opportunity and he needs to move quickly to catch up? >> he has, no doubt, missed an incredible opportunity. he still has time to pivot. he does. time is running short. but he has time to do that. and, you know, there's still five months or so until the general election ends. this is an important time as he moves towards the convention and he's looking at the types of people that he's going to bring around him and those kinds of things. but he has time, and i just encourage him because of the negative trajectory that our country is on today to take advantage and know that there are people everywhere that would come to his aid if he would do that. i'm hoping he's going to do that and i'll continue to encourage it until it's too late.

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joining us now, nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing. you sat down with bernie supporters in colorado where you found few fans of the superdell got system. what did they tell you? >> they don't like it one bit and they were in tune with the 10,000-plus people i saw at a bernie sanders rally. they thought the system is rigged and they believe these superdelegates can turn the race for bernie sanders. >> the job of the superdelegate as it was sdrined to me by rick palacio, our state chair, is to elect the most electable candidate. >> that's how they put it. >> it is not looking like the most electable candidate. >> 3 million more people have voted for hillary clinton than bernie sanders -- >> in the early primaries and

caucuses when nobody knew about bernie. because now those people in iowa are saying, if i knew what bernie stood for, i would have voted -- >> how many of you think the system is rigged? >> big time. >> how many of you believe today with california, new jersey, the other states coming up on tuesday, bernie sanders could still win the nomination? >> early on, the media didn't give bernie a chance. didn't give him any coverage. people didn't know about him, his ideas or his platform. and that's why they voted for clinton. they knew the name. they knew the person. >> there were no debates before the south. >> if you were to hold those early primaries and caucuses now, i bet you bernie would win them all. >> the clinton machine is pressuring those superdelegates. if you want a political career, you better be backing hillary. it seemed too lopsided. sure maybe 3 million votes but there's like 46% pledge

delegates, they're close. for the superdelegates to be that lopsided in favor of hillary tells me there's something else going on. >> i don't like the superdelegate system -- >> but it's one you have to live with. >> i want to see the superdelegates take advantage of this opportunity bernie sanders is offering them. >> but i don't think they will. >> i'm skeptical they will but it's unfortunate and would show they're out of touch with the general public if they don't, you know, switch sides, come over to bernie's side. but i would like to see the superdelegates come to their senses, forget about the political squabble and listen to what -- not just democrats are saying but the public as a whole. >> so these six, only two would definitely vote for hillary clinton if it's between hillary clinton and donald trump. two said they would write in bernie sanders no matter what.

for all of them, they talk about this electability argument, these polls that show in head-to-head matchups, bernie sanders does better. and three of them plan to go to the convention. two of them are going to march in some of these protests. one of them is going to be an actual delegate for bernie sanders. all of them, joe and mika, talk about trump/clinton being a lesser of two evils election. they say they're sick and tired of it, and they're going to work to see if there is still a chance for bernie sanders. and last night, i've got to tell you in that huge audience, he still attracted 10,000 people last night in san francisco. the boos for the idea that hillary clinton was the presumptive nominee, loudest of the night. >> wow. >> chris jansing, thank you very much. that's -- this whole other thing really is going on. let's bring in mike allen from politico and writer at large for "new york magazine" who profiles

hillary clinton in the cover story entitled "a woman running for president." bernie sanders -- >> what's leading playbook today? >> one joe scarborough -- >> wait. >> that's a loaded question. >> that was self-serving. >> politico playbook is leading with your call for many republicans to retract their endorsement of trump. because the effect of your saying that on the show is now every leader including paul ryan and leader mcconnell is going to be asked, based on what's happened in the last 48, 72 hours. are you going to retract your endorsement. for tough for them to ask. and they'll be asked that for weeks and months. >> on twitter, it's pretty effective, i have to say. i just retweeted it. >> you spent time with a confident hillary clinton who is glad she's facing trump? >> very excited to be facing trump. >> and says she can even win texas. >> i told her i thought that was

overstating it. but being with her on the campaign trail and i was there in the last weeks of april and early may when things were tense between her campaign and bernie sanders' campaign. and part of the story line we heard about her. she's uninspire, not a talented politician. when you see her one on one with supporters. when you see her at events, doing retail politics, the handshaking and remembering people's names. >> how is she? >> phenomenal. the small groups where she talks to individual people about their issues. she connects with them. fantastic. it's the big stage stuff which is the stuff we recognize as presidential campaigning. >> which, by the way, mika, that's something she said to us. i'm not good at that. that's not what i like doing. i'm not a natural, right? >> it's a problem. >> she feels uncomfortable with it. some people it comes completely natural to. for her, it's work. one on one when you talk to her, she is as connecting and likable

and fun to be with as like your best girlfriend. >> kasie, you are following hillary. >> you write about the disconnect. i was at that national security speech she gave about -- turned out to be a political speech on donald trump, right? she did seem to come into her own. i'm wondering if that's the sense you picked up from that as well. >> that's part of what she and people around her were predicting and i had been thinking about. presidentially we've seen her in 2008 and in 2016 against people -- against opponents who divide her natural base, the left, democrats. nice when with good politics who she can't hit too hard or she looks monstrous. >> bernie sanders, nice man. >> he's perceived as an inspiring hero to many. and especially a purity of idealism and for mean old hillary to go after him, which she didn't do. she's really barely laid a glove on bernie. she's very constrained in her ability to go after these guys. we've never really seen her

where she has the backing of those on her side, roughly speaking the left, to really go after somebody. and i think she's been dying for this and that national security speech was a great example. >> there's sunshine in brooklyn for the first time in a long time. encouraged by this speech, but rebecca, secretary clinton told me, i'm actually looking forward to running against trump. even more true today than it was two weeks ago. she said what's not true, though, is she said i'm not sure running against trump is as fraught with complexity as people say. look at the last 11 months. it sure is. >> it's very fraught with -- >> he just made running against trump -- >> so confident and she feels she's on her way. n actually planning post inaugural activities. >> all right. here we go. the latest edition of "new york" magazine. rebecca, thank you. mike allen, kasie hunt. that does it for us. >> thank you for coming. he's known in the halls of

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