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i'm frances rivera at msnbc world headquarters in new york and at this hour we're following breaking news out of orlando where singer christina grimmie a former contestant on nbc's "the voice" and youtube star was shot and killed last night. grimmie had just finished a performance at the plaza live theater in orlando. she was signing autographs outside when a man walked up to her and opened fire. >> based on our investigation thus far, it appears that a white male, 21 years of age, approached christina grimmie. this was after the show, so this white male approached her and opened fire, striking her. at that -- almost immediately her brother marcus grimmie tackled the suspect to the ground. shortly after that the suspect killed himself. >> we're live in orlando with the latest and, sara, what more have we learned about the suspect? >> reporter: well, good afternoon, frances. right now authorities are holding off on releasing his

name, but they say he traveled to orlando from another city in florida with the specific intent of attacking christina grimmie. now, that concert ended yesterday around 10:00, around 120 people had stuck around afterwards, she was signing autographs when she was approached by this subject and shot. now, police at this point don't believe that she and her attacker knew each other. they are going through the suspect's cell phone and his computer looking for some sort of evidence of a motive in this case. meanwhile, her fans have been stopping by the concert venue leaving handwritten notes and some flowers. they are reacting understandably with a lot of shock and sadness. >> just don't understand who would do -- why, why he would do this to her. what could she have possibly done to anybody? >> just have to look at it, like, all of your dreams always don't take anything for granted,

because you never know when the last time you're going to see someone or talk to someone. i've been a fan since 2011, way before she was even a contestant on "the voice." and seen all her videos, and just thinking now it's just horrible to think that she's no longer here. >> reporter: and the sentiments are rippling across social media right now. she was a singer. she was a former contestant on "the voice" and her coach on the voice adam levine released a statement that reads in part, christina was a natural, a gifted talent that comes along so rarely. she was taken from us too soon. this is yet another act of senseless extreme violence. i am left stunned and confused how these things can conceivably continue to happen in our world. and one more note, her brother, marcus grimmie, who tackled the suspect, police today are hailing him as a hero. they say he prevented other people, frances, from being hurt. back to you. >> still the heartbreak for him

and his family for watching that happen right in front of him. sarah, thank you. christina grimmie's life and career, i'm joined by a staff writer from "people" magazine. jeanine, thank you so much for being with me here and your magazine, "people" magazine, spoke with one of the witnesses there at that concert. what did they say and what did they see? >> yes, our reporter who was on the ground spoke with someone who said they were actually standing there and saw everything happen. it devolved into chaos. it was a very intimate setting and, you know, the music was going on, and she was signing autographs and all of a sudden they hear this pop, pop, pop sounds that came out. they didn't know what it was. they thought it was a firecracker and when they turned and looked, they saw just a huge amount of chaos going on. they didn't actually see the shooter shooter. but at the end when everyone was scrambling and covering their heads and going towards the ground, they said they saw christina's feet and she was not

moving. >> just so tough especially for her brother as we were just talking about. the reaction out there on social media from everyone from her fans as we heard from in that report but also for those of you who knew her from the very start as she was just, you know, getting her foot, her name out there. carson daly, who is the host of "the voice," he talked on this morning's "today" show about it and this is what he had to say -- >> just take a while. still in shock. we're just so saddened by the news of christina, who was such an incredible talent, an incredible person, it still seems so fresh. i kind of woke up in the middle of the night here on the east coast and heard the story that she'd been shot and that, of course, the bad news of her passing. i mean, it's just -- it's just so sad. so young. >> and i was really moved by carson's tweet earlier when he said, do you know what, i kind of take all of these contestants the family of "the voice" as my own. this is real. this isn't just tv, too, which is why it shows you how many people from "the voice" to her fans really feel such a loss

with something like this happening. >> definitely. adam levine's statement pretty much said it. he coached her that season and they were really close. he actually offered when she finished on the season in third place he offered to give her a record contract with his record company, and they had formed a really close relationship and he talked about they are in feign right now and it's not fair how these things keep happening. she was a celebrity in a sense, of course, but across america it just keeps happening and he brings up gun violence in general and how he's tired and sick of it. >> she's the latest victim of the violence, not only the many faces and fans from "the voice" but many of youtube fans that dwach her there. >> definitely. she started off performing covers. her first youtube video has drawn millions of hits. she even traveled with selena gomez opening up for her. she had a huge following even before "the voice" and people

are just torn up right now. >> i know you like we will be continuing following the developments as we find out more about the shooter. jeanine rubenstein, from "people" magazine, thank you so much for your time. donald trump back on the campaign trail in florida and for republicans looking for him to tone it down, well, they were left disappointed. trump went on the attack for over an hour, hitting everyone from hillary clinton to elizabeth warren and slamming his own party repeatedly. >> i was center stage in every debate. you know the guys kept falling off the ends? you know, they kept falling off. i said, jeb, you're not going to be here much longer, you're pretty far down there, jeba, you're not going to be here much longer, jeb. you got to get tougher, jeb. i don't think he's going to endorse me. do you, folks? i don't think so. who the hell cares? who cares. i watched this poor sad mitt romney this morning. he suffers from misogynist. i don't think he knows what

misogynist is. he suffers from -- and he's sitting like a real stiff. don't forget, this guy let us down, folks. he choked, and he let us down. >> and now he is heading to the blue state of pennsylvania for a rally next hour. katy tur is covering the campaign in moon township for us, a suburb of pittsburgh. the fracture in the republican party seems to be growing and we saw a lot of them pushing donald trump to stay on message and stay on point even with the use of a teleprompter a few times. but doesn't seem to be staying that way. >> reporter: which is exactly why when i speak to gop operatives and party strategi strategists, when i speak to congressional offices and when i speak to donald trump's own aides, they say there's really nothing you can do to get him in line. ultimately it is up to donald trump himself. he is his best adviser and he is the one that he most listens to. one gop source put it like this, there's nothing you can do. maybe you can get a priest to

pray. this was right after the judge curiel comments. so, there was a little bit of hope out there that maybe he would get on message, stop attacking the gop, stop saying stuff that is quite as inflammatory as the judge curiel comments, but there wasn't a lot of hope that that would happen and after that victory message where he was reading from a teleprompter and trying to sound more presidential, we've heard him going after elizabeth warren calling her pocahontas again, refusing to back down and making republicans uncomfortable with that sort of rhetoric one more time. his social media manager just tweeted an article linking to a story about paul ryan with the title "paul ryan is why the gop is losing america," sng omethino that effect. party unity, they talk about wanting and needing it, their actions don't necessarily follow-up with donald trump's words and this is the issue in the republican party right now, whether or not they can trust their candidate.

ultimately, does donald trump need the party? it does not seem like he does. the primary process went quite well for him. he got more votes than any other republican candidate in primary history, and that is the sense the campaign has right now, that the way they were doing it was the right way. it's the way that got them here, and it's the way that they should continue on for the general election. >> yeah, not toning it down. maybe the very reason why he still has a surge and how many supporters are still out there full on hardcore supporters of donald trump. katy tur for us in toon township, pennsylvania, outside of pittsburgh. hillary clinton is not on the trail today, she begins her general election campaign next week with stops in the battleground states of pennsylvania and ohio but the big day comes wednesday when clinton will be joined for the first time on the campaign trail by president obama in the battleground state of wisconsin. the president endorsed clinton thursday. that endorsement coming in the form of a video message released by the clinton campaign. >> i want to congratulate hillary clinton on making

history as the presumptive democratic nominee for president of the united states. look, i know how hard this job can be. that's why i know hillary will be so good at it. in fact, i don't think there's ever been someone so qualified to hold this office. >> and just hours after the president's message, senator elizabeth warren made her long-awaited endorsement with an exclusive interview with msnbc rachel maddow. >> i'm treaddy to get in this fight and work my heart out to make sure that hillary clinton is the next president of the united states and make sure donald trump never gets anyplace close to the white house. >> and warren had remained neutral throughout the primary campaign defigspite pressure to endorse bernie sanders and then her fellow senators to endorse clinton. she praised clinton effusively and said she was ready for a fight against donald trump. here now is rachel maddow's

exclusive interview with senator elizabeth warren. >> why did you not endorse during the primary? what was your thinking during the primary, holding out when so many other democratic senators, all the women democratic senators, almost all of the men democratic senators, got on board with hillary clinton, senator sanders had jeff merkley, you were one of very few holdouts who didn't endorse either one. what was your thinking about that? >> i thought that the primary was really important, and it was an opportunity for democrats to get out there and show this is what it means to be a democrat. we got out there and pushed those issues forward. and we made sure that the american people saw the kind of thinking we have, the kind of energy we have, and what makes his very different from those guys on the other side. >> so, you think the primary was -- it was a long primary. >> i know that. >> it was a tough, contested primary. some people worried that that was softening up the eventual

democratic nominee too much for the general. but you think it was constructive? >> i do think it's constructive, and i also think that what bernie sanders did was just powerfully important. he ran a -- he ran a campaign from the heart. and he ran a campaign where he took these issues and he really thrust them into the spotlight. and he also brought -- i mean, these are -- these are issues near and dear to my heart. and he brought millions of people in to the political process, he brought millions of people into the democratic party. and for me, that's -- that's what this is all about. you know, i take my cue on every part of this from bernie himself and what he said right at the beginning. he said, this campaign -- he said what this is about, what we're doing here, is about millions of people across this country. millions of people who work hard every day and just keep getting slammed.

it is not about one candidate. it's not even about one election. it's about all of us coming together to help fight, to level the playing field, to make sure that everybody gets a fighting chance. >> do you feel like senator sanders' supporters and indeed senator sanders himself who was an independent until five minutes before this race, do you feel like they have a home in the democratic party right now for real, or do you think the democratic party needs to do more, needs to change more, in order to be a natural home for those folks? >> you know, the way i see this is that there is a very big and important home here that i think about what's at stake in this election, and i think about what happens if the republicans have the white house, the senate and the house of representatives. say good-bye to the affordable care act, and that means 20

million who lose their health insurance just like that. say good-bye to dodd/frank and all of the financial reforms and efforts to try to rein in wall street. say good-bye to it, that means we can go to where wall street calls the shots again. we saw how that worked out in 2008. and say good-bye to a supreme court that is truly open and balanced and looking out for the american people. instead the republicans just want to capture a right-wing court for another whole generation. i look at those things and i think about what's at stake, it's literally people's lives, it's our economy, and it is the very fabric of our democracy. for me that's the heart of what the democratic party stands for. that is what we fight for. that's why we're in this fight and that's why we've got to win. >> next we'll have more of rachel maddow's ger view with elizabeth warren and why she says donald trump is such a threat to this country. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪

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elizabeth warren met with hillary clinton at clinton's d.c. home on friday and the two spent just over an hour together. the move comes on the heels of warren endorsing clinton, and with an exclusive interview with msnbc's rachel maddow, and here's more of that interview and elizabeth warren talks about how the republican party underestimated donald trump. >> the republicans underestimated and underestimated and underestimated donald trump and look where it got them. no, no, no, that's not going to happen. we don't have to worry about that. donald trump is a genuine threat to this country. he's a threat economically threat to this country, but he is a threat to who we are as a people. there is an ugly side to donald trump that we all have to stop and think about what's going on here.

and, look, i'll pick one example when we talk about him and that is the housing crisis. remember where donald trump was in this? in 2007 before the big explosion in 2008 a lot of people were starting to look around and say, whoa, we've got an inflated bubble here, there's going to be trouble coming. and donald trump said, was quoted, me was excited for the crash because he knew how to make money off it. he was rooting for an economic crash because it was going to help line his pockets. what kind of a person does something like that? what kind of a person roots for people to be kicked out of their home? what kind of a person does that? it's a person who is an insecure money grubber who cares about nothing but himself. he doesn't care who gets hurst. as long as he makes a profit off it. that cannot -- cannot -- be the man who leads the united states of america. >> is there -- do you have a

feeling, do you feel like there's elizabeth warren specific advice coming from where you come from with the issues that you care about and the people who you have so much influence with because of the way you talk about these issues, is -- do you have a prescription for how the democratic party's primary should wrap up? senator sanders has a rally tonight in d.c., he's going to compete in the d.c. primary. he says he's going right through to the convention, we don't know exactly what that means, but he was talking tonight at this rally saying when i was president i'm going to use my executive authority -- do you have a prescription for how this primary should end? >> look, i think that it's clear now that we need to start thinking about all of us together, and we need to think about the difference between us and the difference -- and the republicans. that's for me what the heart of this is about. but, you know, i want to add another part to this, because i think it really matters here, and i like our talking back and forth but i just want to make sure i get it on the table and get it on the table early.

hillary clinton won. and she won because she's a fighter, she's out there. she's tough. and i think this is what we need. look at who she is. for 25 years she's been taking the incomings, right? the right wing has thrown everything they possibly can at her. and what has she done? a lot of people would just hang up their spurs, you know, i've had enough of this. and she doesn't. what she's done is he gets back up and she gets back in the fight. as a democrat, one of the things that frustrates me the most is there are a lot of times that we just don't get in the fight. we ask pretty please if we can have things or we make the argument for why it is the best thing to do. and then wait patiently for the other side to agree to come along. we negotiate, we start our opening position by negotiating. you know, and i get that. i get the reason that we -- you should be willing to negotiate

sometimes, but you also ought to be willing to throw a punch. and there are a lot of things that people say about hillary clinton, what nobody says that she doesn't know how to throw a punch. >> as somebody -- i agree with you both on the perseverance and on the fighter characterization of hillary clinton. i think that's the -- that's the most important way to understand her political power. >> yes. >> her willingness to never give up. we have gone 240 years in this country without a woman ever being nominated for president let alone elected one. >> yep. >> her aggression and her stance as a fighter in politics, does that make her more palatable to a country who apparently has a real problem with this concept, or less? does that make it harder for her? >> you know, to me this isn't about palatable anymore, this is about what we need to survive. this is about whether or not we're going to have a country that just works for the donald trumps of the world, that just works for a handful of the

largest corporations in the world or a country that is really building an economic future for all of us. and, yes, i think having a fighter in the lead, a female fighter in the lead, is exactly what this country needs. >> you enjoy talking about donald trump. >> yes. >> because -- obviously your criticism of him is heartfelt. what role do you see for yourself in this -- in this general election contest? >> oh, listen, i'm going to do everything i can to help hillary clinton get elected and i'm going to do everything i can to make sure that donald trump never comes within shouting distance of the white house. >> has hillary clinton talked to you about the prospect of being her running mate? have you -- >> nope. >> -- been vetted, have you -- no conversations? >> no. >> am i supposed to ask it more broadly? have her people talked to your people? >> i don't think so. >> okay. >> look, i know there's been a lot of speculation about this. but the truth is, i love the work i do.

i can't tell you how grateful i am to the people of massachusetts who sent me here to just wade into these fights. and now we're about to enter another big fight, and that is a general election fight that pits a tough woman who is willing to lead against a small, insecure bully who thinks he's going to get his way by throwing nasty tantrums, by giving people ugly names, by saying racist and other kinds of outrageous things. and we just can't let him be the leader of this country. we can line up. we can be part of hillary clinton's effort to be the president of the united states. and to help do the things we care about in this country, to really help build a future. >> because you are -- you're the

person who's made it so people like me don't know whether to call it the sanders wing of the party or the warren wing of the party. you are somebody who chose not to run for president yourself, defig despite a lot of people pressuring you to do that, and you still wield a lot of influence on this party that people look up to you. that's why your endorsement was so coveted, i think that's also why senator sanders' supporters have been very upset that you didn't endorsement him during the primary and i think they're very upset with you today and tonight because of your endorsement. what's your reaction to that? >> my reaction is i thought it was important for the primary to go forward and not to try to tilt it one way or the other, to try to get -- or try to end it, that really what i wanted to see is i wanted to see democrats out there talking about our core set of issues. and let people around this country vote. let people have caucuses.

let them do it however they're going to do it. but the point is to get us engaged, and to get us engaged on that set of issues. rachel, can we just think about how different it is today than it was five years ago. we talk today. we have open conversations about the best way to make sure that young people are going to be able to get an affordable education. gosh, this matters. you know, and just, by the way, notice trump's view of this. trump believes that you just cheat them, you know, that's what is happening right now. this is trump university. we have talked about the best way to put more restrictions on wall street, to be able to rein wall street in tighter. and what do the republicans say, donald trump? je thrust say they're they say they are going to roll back dodd/frank, social security

five years ago the whole conversation about social security, i remember this, it was like some people said, the conservatives said, you cut it off, and the moderates say you just cut it a little. and those of us who are genuinely progressive saying in ahh, this is terrible, you know? and now what is the conversation about? the conversation is about what's the best way to make social security secure going into the future, and to make it work better for those who depend the most on it, for the millions of people for whom social security is all that stands between them and poverty, for the 14 million people who count on social security to put a roof over their heads and food on the table. these are the issues that democrats fought for and that happened because we had a primary race. it happened because bernie sanders was in there fighting and because hillary clinton was in there fighting. >> when -- when -- >> and up next, does elizabeth

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we are back now with more of rachel maddow's exclusive interview with senator elizabeth warren and after enthusiastically endorsing hillary clinton rachel asked the senator whether she was ready to be clinton's running mate. and here's more from that exclusive interview. >> to talk about social security, it's not just enough to say, looking at you, this really matters. it's the fact that a million americans thing it matters. oh, wait, it's 2 million americans think it matters. no, it's 4 million americans, it's 6, wait, it's 10. it's 50 million americans who care about this. that's what we're going to make change. here's how i look at this. the republicans had a real advantage over us for a long time, and the principal advantage they have had is they

have concentrated money and concentrated power and, boy, when it's all concentrated, man, you can organize it and use it and get out there and run the negative ads. you can be effective and you can put money into campaigns. what do we got on our side? we got some money, some, and people put money in, but the reality is what we've got is we've got all the votes. we've got all the voices. there are so many more people on our side. and i'm -- i'm not just talking democrats here. you talk about those core issues, about social security, about college, about raising the minimum wage, about reining in wall street, you look at those core issues, and somewhere between 60% and 75% of all of america, that's democrats, republicans, independents, libertarians, vegetarians, they sign up and say, yeah, i'm for that. so, the question is then, rachel, why hasn't that happened?

so, why hasn't it happened? and the answer is because washington, this place where we are right now, it is the bubble. it's the bubble that's created by the money. it is the bubble that is created by the contributions, by the lobbyists, by every part of this tight little circle. our only chance to break out of that is that we got to say against your concentrated money and power, we're going to put up our voices and our votes. and we're going to be here. we're going to be here in these elections. and we're going to make sure that the people who run for office and get elected are the ones who are going to work for the american people. that's why this is all about. >> with that kind of a vision, i have one last question for you, and you'll know what i'm getting at, but take my question literally. >> okay. >> and i know you're not seeking the job and i know you love being a senator. but if you were asked to be secretary clinton's running

mate, do you believe you could do it? by that i mean, the most important job of being a vice president is to be ready to be president if, god forbid, something happened to the commander in chief. i know you don't want the job, but do you believe you would be capable of stepping into that job and doing that job if you were ever called to do it? because -- and i ask you because ed residencele former dnc chairman, former pennsylvania governor, said recently that you were in no -- not in any way, shape, or form ready to be commander in chief. i want to know if you think you could be. >> yes, i do. >> rachel maddow's exclusive interview with elizabeth warren. of course, we'll have much more on the 2016 race, that's next. house speaker paul ryan's response after he's supportive donald trump even after saying donald trump's attacks on a mexican-american judge were racist. if you were watching game four of the nba finals last night, you may have seen a preview of the rnc convention. that's next. hold,

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here's a live look right now at moon township, pennsylvania, a suburb of pittsburgh, where there's a hangar there and you see the stairs. any moment this afternoon donald trump's plane will arrive and, of course, he is expected to speak. the presumptive republican nominee will take the stage today under intense pressure from a divided republican party to change his tone. and beginning next week he will square off against a newly unified democratic party ready to unleash its attack dogs and more from what to expect from the general election fight i'm joined by the daily beast correspondent and jason johnson politics editor at theroot.com and sirius xm radio host. and thank you for being here. susan, it was evident in trump's target, president obama, elizabeth warren, his own party, mitt romney. there was a tweet that came out of his social media director who

tweeted this, paul ryan is the reason the gop is losing america. donald trump doesn't change. you have this instance where party unity isn't the focus. why not hit hillary clinton? why not target here? >> that's exactly where he should go. he's never been as popular with the base as when he's targeting hillary clinton. it's also like you just mentioned a place where everyone can unify and get behind it. i don't know what the person was doing with that tweet. that was just trying to create a war it seems like. it was -- it was exactly what you don't need to do right now. donald trump is not the establishment by so much. he doesn't need to distance himself from it anymore and really the party needs to try and get around him. but what donald trump forgets is that he's carrying a banner that lots of people want to be under. and he's got to set the tone so he can be inclusive. >> also interesting we'll say from the five weeks since he clinched the nomination he could have used that time as yet and yet here we are still waiting. >> that's a great party, because

we the party, republicans should be so far ahead of where hillary clinton is, and we should be surging in the polls. and she's now going to have her chance to get together -- get her troops together and we're fighting off as if it was just post convention. >> well, one of the reasons why that stalled some will argue, too, are the comments, the back and forth about the mexican-american federal judge, here, jason to you, taking heat about that, yet today we're still seeing those attacks and the whole pocahontas thing and saying i'll apologize it but pocahontas, that's elizabeth warren. and here's trump in florida a short time ago. >> when i use a slightly off word, slightly off, when i called this really bad senator, she's done nothing, she's done nothing, she said she's native american. and i said, pocahontas. it's pocahontas, and somebody said to me, one of the media,

mr. trump, would you apologize? i said, yes, i'll apologize, to pock hon tas i will apologize, because poke hcahontas is insul. >> jason, how alarming is this for the party? >> it shouldn't be alarming at all. they've been hitting snooze on this alarm for the last 18 months. it's really clear. this is what donald trump does. he says racist things. he says misogynistic things. he says violent things. this guy has gone on a tear. i don't think the democrats could have written a better candidate to run against. ever since this guy locked up the nomination, he's attacked women, he's attacked hispanics, republicans and democrats. he's in florida attacking jeb bush. it might not hurt to get jeb bush's endorsement in that state. i don't think the republicans at this point think they can do anything about trump. they're all just trying to hold on to whatever places they have because they could be looking at a serious, serious landslide against them this fall if trump continues on this path.

>> well, i'm looking at you, susan, because i'm looking for reaction as well especially when you have last night paul ryan really, really pressed hard forcing to explain, you know, donald trump and really urging for those at mitt romney's republican retreat not necessarily pushing them to endorse donald trump but instead saying donate for down-ballot candidates as well and for unity. how much can they dwawk this kind of line when it comes to your party? >> well, speaker ryan has to walk that line, because, again, he's not doing it just as an individual, he represents the whole caucus, the republican caucus. and there's a lot of people that he needs to kind of make happy at different levels, unlike john boehner who just kind of went in and ruled one way, he said he was going to listen to a lot of folks. he endorsed because the majority of his conference wanted to get behind donald trump. it is a very tricky line and tightrope for speaker ryan. but most of the other people there at that event are certainly going to get behind a lot of the senate candidates and down-ballot races without a

doubt. >> to another event, a sporting event, eleanor, and how it turned political last night. it was the nba finals in cleveland and there's a trump protester and he charged the court with the message written on his chest and without any incident. is this kind of the preview we'll see when it comes to cleveland and beyond? >> well, protesting is a great american tradition, and i'm sure in cleveland they'll have the protesters cordoned off and people will have to get permission slips. so, of course, there's going to be more eruptions and maybe some of them will make a lot of us feel uncomfortable, but i think that it's part of the american tradition. i think the republicans are really straddling between -- >> to that extent, eleanor, a tradition, to that extent, you saw what was written on his chest, he didn't have a chirt on, that was the nba finals. >> frankly i missed that so -- >> if you can see your monitor, it's right there. you can see your monitor. >> exactly.

unfortunately maybe sometimes, you know, the tradition we have of free speech does seem to go over -- go over the line. but i don't think we should characterize the whole trump campaign or the clinton campaign because, you know, a single protester. but i think the republicans really are straddling a line between the good trump and the bad trump, and they're going to watch the polls and see if this race is potential winnable, how much damage there is down the road. but they're all scrambling to find a little tiny bit of moral high ground they can cling to as donald trump doesn't show any signs really of being able to change his colors at this point, and as a voter, i would feel really fooled if suddenly we got a candidate who is on script and he's something else than what he presented himself as. so, i think there's danger in that as well. >> we'll see if the teleprompter comes out again as it has lately. i wish we could talk about the dems especially with the president hitting the campaign with hillary clinton as well and

vp talk as well, to all of you, susan, eleanor and theroot.com's jason johnson. thank you. >> thank you. back to the live look of moon township, pennsylvania, just outside of pittsburgh, where we expect donald trump to speak minutes from now. he's already held the rally in florida today, and we'll take you live to florida when the presumptive nominee -- republican nominee, takes the stage. (vo) on the trane test range, you learn what makes our

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new developments today in the effort to recall a california judge involved in the sexual assault case in stanford

university. several advocacy groups have called for the removal of aaron persky in opposition to his sentencing of former stanford university swimmer brock turner. judge persky sentenced turner to six months in jail and three years probation after the student was convicted of sexual assault. well, members of the public defender's office and the district attorney have come to the judge's defense saying while they disagreed with his decision on the sentencing he should not be removed from office. this week the national organization for women joined the effort. its open letter to the judge reads in part, quote, you've clearly put more value on the life and potential of the young man who was a convicted rapist than on the life and potential of a young woman who courageously stood trial in hope of winning justice for the violence she endured. joining me now a terry o'neil president of the national organization for women. terry, i appreciate you being with me this afternoon as we talk about this. you have a judge over a decade the first controversy seen. why are you calling for him to

step down? >> you know, frances, we rely on members of the judiciary to be impartial and, frankly, giving such a ridiculously small sentence to this dangerous predator and that we believe he is a dangerous predator, shows that he is more partial toward the sensibilities of a star athlete than he is toward the -- toward the potential and the future of the woman that he savagely attacked. >> do you think he's partial because he's a stanford alum and he also, you know, i believe coached lacrosse there as well? do you think that has anything to do with it? >> well, from what we can tell the judge was completely swayed by, for example, the letter from brock turner's father who insisted that brock turner should -- would be some kind of delicate flower that can't stand prison and what he did quote, unquote, was 20 minutes of action and that he shouldn't be punished for a long period of time for only 20 minutes of action. so, and a judge who allows

himself to be swayed in favor of the defendant with a father who seems to be justifying rape, i mean, that's just a judge who is not partial, who does not belong on the bench and who should clearly be removed. >> what does it tell you he spent much of his career prosecuting sex crimes and he's touted himself as being tough on sex crimes and battered women and serving as a committee member on a group for battered women. what does that say? >> good for him, and perhaps when he leaves the bench, which we hope he does immediately, he'll spend some time stepping back and reflecting on the sum of his work around violence against women and let's hope that he learns from this. he doesn't have to learn while on the bench. he can be off the bench and learn from it and come back stronger and better. >> you have a vice president writing a support letter in support of the young woman. your take. where was the federal government failed in trying to combat

campus sex assault or even changed the so-called rape culture on campuses? >> you know, the federal government has been taking stems and the obama administration has been taking some really good and important steps. i think what is important for us to remember is that we have a criminal justice system in this country to deal with crimes like rape. and on college campuses we have a law called title nine of the education amendments of 1972 that requires colleges to provide an equal education opportunity -- opportunity to all of its students including rape victims. so, in their capacity as an organization -- an institution that must provide an equal education to victims of rape, that is where the colleges must be focused. the obama administration has begun to issue guidelines and guidances. i know they are continuing to work. there is some amazing campus organizations. there's a website kn knowyournine.org and there's really great developments

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