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he was abusive to his wife during the short time they were married. she called her parents and asked to be extracted from the relationship. this was years ago, but that is among the press reports circulating today. coming up on the very top of the 4:00 p.m. hour -- and it's a good time to recap this tragedy, enough sadness in orlando, florida, for the president of the united states to order flags flown at half staff at all u.s. properties, territories, and on our entire military fleet worldwide for that matter. 50 dead. 53 wounded. a total of 103 people that were hit by gunfire starting at 2:00 a.m. when a terrorist, an american, entered a gay bar in orlando, florida, that goes by
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the name of pulse. by 5:00 a.m., it was over, but the police had to come in. it quickly became a hostage situation. it took 11 police officers in all discharging their weapons to bring the suspect down. there are subsequent reports that he called 911 prior to mounting this effort, launching this attack, and in it gave praise to the islamic state and so on, but a dark, dark, terrible day in orlando, florida. especially at this place that was supposed to be built around fun and a safe haven. joe fryer has been able to move closer. he's outside the regional medical center there in orlando. joe? >> reporter: yeah, brian, we were right by the pulse nightclub, which is actually just a few blocks from the
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hospital. we have now moved to the hospital where a number of people are being treated. this trauma center is located two or three blocks from the nightclub. those that were injured were able to move here. we know this health care system has treated more than 40 patients so far. 26 surgeries we're told performed so far today. i want to bring in patty. she is the city commissioner for this district. i'm going to have you come in here a little bit closer. i know this has been an incredibly hard day for you. how are you doing right now? >> it's been a horrible day. i go from wearing my city commissioner hat and just trying to help people and on the other hand i'm the first openly gay elected official. this happened in my community, and it was late at night. this is a very diverse community. this is really the heart of our downtown. city hall is only a couple blocks away. this is a very nice club. it is owned by a friend of mine. i didn't find out until a couple of hours that she's okay.
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it's just a horrible tragedy for orlando. things like that just don't happen here. we've had two really bad tragedies happen. we had a shooting at another club, another place, in town. it's horrible. but there's been all this talk about guns and i don't believe that. i believe the real strength of the community is not guns and violence and violence is the answer. these people are in line at the blood bank and there are volunteers up here giving water to everybody and food. this community is much more than violence. i don't think you respond to violence with more violence. i think we need to come together and show these radical extremists that this is not the way our community works and you're not going to strike at the heart of our community because are a community that loves. this gay community has experienced a lot of loss from the aids crisis and everything
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else we have been through as a community, and we're not going to take this sitting down. if you want to do something, please go give blood. we don't want to have a large-scale event yet. there are officers still here. some of them have been on duty for 24 hours now. we haven't even gotten all of the victims out of the building yet. if you want to do something, please give blood. if you need to go to your own church and worship. we just don't want to have a really big community event yet because frankly there's a lot going on right now. >> i know you and so many in the community are bracing for the fact that we know in the coming hours we're going to learn some of the names of those that have passed away. i know that's going to be part of the hardest time. >> i broke down when i saw the initial list. one kid is a facebook friend of mine. it is just very, very sad. these are young people. they were just out to have a good time.
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i know that's why terrorists pick these people because they want to strike at the heart of our community, but the answer is to respond with love and love one another and let's take care of the families. i know that the gay and lesbian community center is having grief counseling because this is really going to impact our community. there are 942 north mills avenue. there'll be grief counsellors there all day and all night. reach out there and get help because this is a terrible tragedy for our community, but there's a lot of people to help. there's a go fund me page to raise money for the victims. we want to show what a good, cohesive, and loving community we are in the face of this horrible terrorist attack. we do know it was a terrorist attack now. why they picked the gay community, i don't know, but we are resilient, loving, decent people, and we're going to respond with love. >> reporter: thank you for taking a few moments to talk with us. as she mentioned, they are going
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to release some of the names of the victims on a website only once they know next of kin have been notified. a handful of names have started to be released and more will be released in the coming of hours. >> i know you're dealing with a loud motorcycle there, but it is kind of perverse that the list is so long and the wait will be so long to notify all the next of kin that the city has had to set up a website to handle the volume of it. >> reporter: yeah, that's exactly it. we just checked on the website a few minutes ago. four of the names have actually been released, which means their family has been notified. edward sotomayor jr. is one. those are names that have been released by authorities. patty did recognize one of the names on there.
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this is a small, tight lgbt community. last night was what was known as latin night at the pulse club. it is a huge event that also draws the straight community. it's an event that brings in all sorts of people in the orlando community. these people know each other. it's a tight-knit community. it's one where gays and lesbians are very well. it gets a perfect score from hrc, so everyone here kind of knows everyone. >> i guess we're going to see more latino surnames on that list before this is all over. the triage effort when this first broke and they were able to get to the wounded, 53 of them, was massive. those 50 souls did not get out alive. we want to bring back into our conversation shawn henry, former executive assistant director of the fbi and current chief security officer with crowd
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strike. shawn, i heard you put it in such a way that it kind of refocuses the mind. 103 people were shot. 50 of them were lost. 11 police officers discharged their weapons. and then after the fact it appears isis is saying of this guy he was one of ours. >> yeah, that's right. i think they're going to exploit that. the fact that he made that 911 phone call apparently and that there was some affiliation. not clear he was directed. i think pete williams talked about this just a little earlier, brian, that it's not very clear, but he was inspired. if isis has the opportunity to exploit that and show some connectivity, it helps to empower others. it may help to inspire others. it may help in terms of recruitment. it's a sad, sad world, but
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that's the nature of this, but that's what isis does and they do it very well, to use social media to exploit their warped view of the world. >> this is a very important distinction in the days that come. you're correct in that directed by isis and inspired by isis is a night and day difference. that speaks to the motive of the terrorists. is it inspirational, aspirational, on his part to try to gain acceptance and attention? >> that's right. what is his motivation is one of the key focuses here for a lot of people. certainly the victims and their families. that's not important. the fact is their loved ones are dead. from an investigative perspective, it is very important to understand because any bit of intelligence that will give a clue to investigators about who this person was, how he may have been radicalized, how he was recruited or communications he's
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had with others, those are key facts that will help these investigators going forward to help future types of attacks, to disrupt, to prevent, to mitigate this type of an issue, brian. so it is very important to separate that. someone who is inspired, they radicalize themselves online. they were reading propaganda or someone who was absolutely directed. there's a clear communication network, a channel. there are people outside -- which would indicate of course that there are those who are still connected to him if it was directed and might be looking to direct others, so that's a key piece for investigators to determine, brian. >> i'm sitting here in new york looking at these pictures pretty convinced that the 30,000-plus police officers here in new york city are fairly well insulted to see him in pictures wearing
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shirts of the nypd in not one, but two pictures. that aside, to the connecting of dots now in the investigation, on behalf of the public who is hearing all these things, he had a license to have a weapon, he had a job in security, but he had also been flagged. feds looked into him, decided there wasn't enough there. he was able to purchase more firearms in the past few days apparently. any of these jump out at you as the kind of thing that should have been prevented? >> well, of course. your viewers sitting back today watching the newscast here and saying this guy was investigated by the fbi. he was affiliated with a known suicide bomber and he's able to buy a gun a few days before he
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kills 50. certainly, there's going to be a lot of questions about that. when we talk about the joint terrorism task force and its sharing of intelligence, it's law enforcement to law enforcement. but what they'll be looking at now going backwards is what should have been communicated to others. i think that we'll look at what the laws are. was there a requirement for this to be prevented, that he wasn't able to purchase a weapon? was there a regulation that should have precluded it or is there some mishap along the way? i think absolutely the american public is going to be asking a lot of questions, rightfully so. how could someone on the fbi's radar go out and purchase weapons in a lawful way, what appears to be lawful at this point? it's going to be a very big issue. let me just add my father is a retired new york city police officer, my brother is a current new york city detective, and i'm very offended by seeing this guy wear an nypd shirt knowing how
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strong the nypd is and how vigilant they are in keeping the people of new york city safe. >> i think insulted is the word for it. shawn, thank you very much. thanks for your expertise last hour and this hour. i'm sure we'll be coming back for more. we want to talk now with congressman shawn maloney, democrat of new york, happens to be co-chair of the lgbt quality caucus. congressman, what a rough day and in large part because it combines a hate crime based on an affinity group of american citizens with an act of terrorism. >> yes, that's right. unfortunately, violence is not uncommon against lgbt americans, even in 2016. this event is obviously different in that it clearly combines elements of international terrorism. we need to take both issues seriously. >> when you say elements of international terrorism, absolutely right and especially if these reports about the 911 call are true and reports about
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his past and the parts of his past that flagged the attention of the fbi. the isis involvement piece of this is going to be different. if you've been listening to our conversation at all, the question is did they kind of declare him an isis actor after the news broke after the fact. >> yes, and that's going to be the subject of an investigation and should be. there are very difficult questions to answer here. why was this individual allowed to obtain an assault rifle even after being investigated by the authorities? why are those weapons available to people with this type of violent tendency in our country today? when will we decide these mass shootings have done enough killing and damage? whether they are inspired by foreign terrorists or american citizens with no inspiration from abroad. the fact is the victims in the end and their families don't receive any comfort from the fact that these bullets came
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from one source to another. we need to stop these mass shootings and we need to take seriously hatred and violence against the lgbt community, especially now during pride month and to the extent it is merging with our understandable and appropriate concern with violent jihadism and international terrorism. then let's hope that that builds the broadest possible coalition to put an end to this stuff before we have more victims. >> you know, we're fond of saying -- and this is true -- that issues like gay marriage -- gay marriage has been, i think, the fast moving public issue of our adult lifetimes. it caught fire. after fierce opposition, pockets still of opposition today in this country, but americans thought it was certainly getting better. >> mr. williams, what we have been fighting for decades in the end is the simple right to love
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one another freely and to be proud about that and that's what pride month is about. can we love one another freely across our lines of difference? and we celebrate that in the lgbt community. i hope members of my community remember where we've come from and what we have achieved, including marriage. like the victims in charleston, south carolina, who responded to that act of hatred with such dignity and love and wisdom, i hope my community responds in kind, that we do not allow ourselves to be defined by the hatred of our attacker, but that we respond with dignity and love. all of our struggles and all of our efforts in the area of politics have been simply to love one another freely and we should not stop and we should not lose that goal, especially now when we're in so much pain.
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>> you're so right. that's been the crux of the struggle. now in florida this horrible wait begins. and we learn as next of kin are notified a terrible list of 50 names of people who just went out last night to go to latin night at a bar called pulse and never were able to go home from there. >> that's right. on the way in here, i was texting with a friend of mine from orlando whose been in that club many times. eddie sotomayor was clinging to life in the hospital this morning. he passed away. eddie was 32 years old. there are human beings behind these statistics. these are young people. these are people who had their whole lives ahead of them. it is an unspeakable thing that has happened in orlando, but we had 27 innocent victims in
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newtown as well. we had innocent victims at virginia tech, in movie theaters, and in shopping centers. when will enough be enough? when we will decide as a society we are not powerless in the face of this terror? we are combining hatred with extraordinarily powerful weapons where one individual can shoot 150 people, i believe you said, in the span of just a few minutes in one location. really, it could happen almost anywhere in the country. that doesn't need to be the reality in america today. those of us in public life, but really all of us need to take responsibility to take the steps we need to take to make it as difficult as possible for this kind of individual to do this kind of damage. >> let's listen to some of what the president had to say when he addressed the nation earlier this afternoon. >> we are still learning all the
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facts. this is an open investigation. we've reached no definitive judgment on the precise motivations of the killer. the fbi is appropriately investigating this an act of terrorism. we must spare no effort to determine what association this killer may have had with terrorist groups. what is clear is that he was a person filled with hatred. over the coming days, we'll uncover why and how this happened and we'll go whatever the facts lead us. today marks the most deadly shooting in american history. the shooter was apparently armed with a handgun and a powerful assault rifle. this massacre is therefore a further reminder of how easy it is for someone to get their hands on a weapon and lets them shoot people in a school or in a house of worship or in a movie
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theater or in a nightclub. and we have to decide if that's the kind of country we want to be. and to actively do nothing is a decision as well. >> the president in the briefing room at the white house earlier this afternoon. congressman, i should tell you that president obama hillary clinton have postponed that campaign event in green bay, wisconsin this week. kind of kick off the road tour that followed the president's endorsement of hillary clinton and it will be interesting and kind of vitally important to see how many people take your advice and heed your call and how they react to this after the struggle has gone on for so many years for equality and acceptance and freedom and peace and now this. >> yes.
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and there are really three debates here, if i may. there's the very important debate about hatred and violence towards the lgbt community. there's also the important and urgent debate about gun violence in our country. and there's the debate about terrorism. all three, whether from abroad or inspired here at home, and all three debates are very important. we must have those debates urgently, respectfully, in our political system. that's what our politics is for. so when you hear people over the coming days we shouldn't politicize this, i don't know what that means. if we have politics for anything, if we have public debate and people in office like me for any reason, it's to debate issues like this and act in ways to protect our people that make us a better country. i want to have all three of those debates, but i'm not sure i want to have them right now. right now what people in the lgbt community and all americans are feeling is just profound
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sadness and loss and desire to reach out prayerfully to the victims and those who love them in this very difficult time. and i hope that we can remember across all our lines of difference that we share a common humanity and that we should stand in that common humanity and grieve together as one country regardless of who we are for these innocent victims as we proceed into those debates in our public space. i hope people will come together and not immediately choose upsides. what we need in america is not more division and not more anger and hatred as robert kennedy said on the night martin luther king was assassinated. but we need more love and compassion. these events should wake us up and get us out of our day-to-day
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routines and get us talking together as americans. >> it certainly has been a dark sunday across our country. thanks to shawn maloney, who is the co-chair of the lgbt quality caucus. congressman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> let's check in with kelly o'donnell in our washington bureau to update us. having come out of the conversation with the congressman, kelly, i think it's very useful that people hear his message and what he was trying to say because you and i both know our politics and the american conversation with devolve awfully quickly. >> brian, there's usually a very short window when people offer thoughts of good wishes and prayers and a community comes together in support. that is certainly a healthy part of our political dialogue, but then it often does retreat to the hardened corners are people view these kinds of events in very clear ways that do not always agree.
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in fact, rarely agree on issues when it comes to things like how are guns sort of monitored in our country in terms of the rights to bear them, the types of legislation or licensing or that whole array of issues that deal with guns. certainly lgbt rights can become a volatile political issue and how the country responds to terrorism. this is at the heart of some of the most passion-driven political debates. very much influenced and reflected by what is happening there, there is a national conversation that continues in the political environment that is our presidential campaign season in particular as well as the work that will need to be done on capitol hill either reacting to this or responding legislatively or choosing not to respond legislatively. president obama will not join hillary clinton as he had planned to do wednesday in wisconsin, a battleground state for the fall campaign.
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that was going to be their first time appearing together in this presidential campaign. a very much sought after moment for the hillary clinton campaign to try to bring the forces of president obama's political strength to her campaign. that has now been postponed specifically both the white house and the campaign telling us because of the orlando events. you can imagine that even though other political events will go forward that that particular meeting in wisconsin, think about how impossible that would have been at this moment to talk in the most hardened political terms even in a rah-rah sense of how to deal with the issues of the day. just an impossible situation. at the same time, for the president, who has got to monitor what's going on and be involve ed in dispatching feder resources to the florida, it would be unhelpful for him to
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not be right there at the situation room. as often happens when there is a national crisis, politics has to adjust. we have not yet seen any word and we have tried several times today to find out if donald trump intends to change any of his schedule. we have not been given any information to suggest that at this point. and there are other planned events and trips to battleground states for hillary clinton that we have not been told would be adjusted at this point. so at this point, it is the obama-clinton joint appearance that is on hold to be scheduled for some other time. brian? >> kelly, thanks. we repeat to our viewers that is an awful day across this country and the murder of these 50 citizens is both a hate crime targeted at a group in our society, of our fellow citizens, and an act of terrorism. we heard the president call it both of those things earlier this afternoon. a quick break for us and our coverage of this terrible day in
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i wasn't sure if it was the music because i thought it was a yin-yang twins song. it almost went the beat until you heard too many shots. that's when you just know chaos is just -- it was in turmoil. >> one of the eyewitnesses, one of the young men in the club last night. how many times have we heard this? theatergoers in colorado, people at the bataclan in paris, you don't know. there's a live show going on. there is a lot of noise already.
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there is perhaps rhythmic and sharp music and you don't know and your senses are running behind because the last thing you're thinking you're going to witness a deranged terrorist gunman, who is bent on killing 50 people, shooting one 103 people as was the case last night. remember we are covering this as what it is, a hate crime, yes, but also an act of terrorism. but make no mistake. it was targeted at the lgbt community. stewart milk has been able to join us. he is co-founder and president of the harvey milk foundation. harvey milk, he was assassinated. he was the first openly gay person elected to public office in california when he sought a seat on the board of supervisors. stewart, i'll start you wherever you wish to start. your dark thoughts this sunday.
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>> since you mentioned my uncle brian, he said let the bullets that smash through my brain smash through every closet door. he wanted those bullets to be the last violence perpetrated against the lgbt community. our response is sadness, grief, shock, and part of that response is going to be literally hundreds of vigils tonight. it will an eloquent and peaceful response to this violence that was directed at people, our sons, our brothers, our fathers, our neighbors, our business associates who simply were living their life going out and celebrating who they were and
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having a saturday night out on the town in what they thought was a safe space. and so the community's response is immediate remembrance of our loss and then a remembrance of the work that we stilleed to do. it is important to recognize that we have to do work on cultural competency when it comes to people of different faiths and different religions. we still have work to do on lgbt acceptance. we have work that we have to do that interconnects people around the globe. let me say those vigils will be global. i have messages from people around the world that they're standing with orlando. you had patty sheehan on earlier. she's been shaken to the core as
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has our community. it's a reminder of the work we need to do. there is a connection of the dots. we have a lot of dots to connect, but one of the things that we have to do is remind people and educate people that we are stronger by our diversity and that there is no place for religious extremism that does not allow people to simply exist. we've seen this not just by the way in the muslim community. we saw in jerusalem an attack on an lgbt community center by religious fanatics. we have seen it in russia, almost government condoned attacks on lgbt communities. we have to redouble our efforts on education. june 12th needs to be in the memory of these amazing people who we have lost last night,
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this morning, we have to in their memory redouble our efforts. we don't who the next steve jobs or the next tim cook of these 50 souls that was taken from us. we must redouble our efforts to make sure that lgbt hate-focused violence and violence towards any minority community is snubbed out. >> to your first point, i was going to say to all those watching, especially in central florida, the only place they don't want a vigil, patty sheehan specifically asks no public gathering tonight until further notice in orlando just because it is a massive crime scene. they're still treating 53 wounded people. it is just a dark, dark day there. but absolutely in cities and towns across the country, to stewart's point, it would be appropriate. stewart, to your second point, what do we do about this moment
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that this terrorist witnessed? two men kissing each other on a public street. if you live in any of the larger cities in the united states, while it may have been a thing to most residents years ago, it's not a thing anymore. it is part of daily life. >> it is a part of daily life. brian, marriage equality has brought that into daily life, but we actually just had in miami an incident that took place at a burger king outside of a gay club where someone reacted and got into an altercation because they saw two men kissing. we again must do some work on cultural competency. we must look at specific cultures and how we can bridge those divides. we can't simply say and ignore the fact that there are theologies out there that still marginalize not just lgbt
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people, but women and people of different faiths. we must do better. as shawn had said, we as one of the bright lights of human rights around the world we must do better internally here in the u.s. >> stewart, thank you very much. i'm often happy to be able to talk to you even though what's brings us on television today is awful and brutally sad. the human rights campaign is holding a press briefing right now. we should listen into their reaction to this. >> -- to be their true and authentic selves, even if only for a few hours. to think of these innocent people, some of them just kids, being attacked somewhere that might have been the only place on earth they felt free or even
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safe, it breaks our hearts. across the united states and around the world people are celebrating lgbt pride this month. let us remember why the very first pride march was ever even held, to fight back against those who sought to keep us down, keep us closeted, and keep us afraid. so while today is a day of mourning in the wake of this tragedy, i say to lgbtq people living in every corner of this country and around the globe, continue to be bold, be loved, and be proud. but right now, there are mothers and fathers, spouses and partners, siblings and friends who aren't thinking about any of that. they're simply wishing they had just one more moment to say i love you.
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during this, their darkest hour, we as a nation must be their strength. we must be their comfort, and we must promise the memory of those they lost will never, ever fade. love really does conquer hate, and today i pray for love to also conquer sorrow. and let's not forget that what made this hate so deadly is that it is still far too easy for dangerous people to get their hands on guns in this country. in the days to come, there will be time to discuss what could have led to or even prevented this revolting tragedy, but let's get one thing clear and this is what disgusts me the most about this tragedy. the maniac who did this was somehow conditioned to believe that lgbtq people deserved to be massacred and that they are less
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than in this society. and he wasn't just hearing these messages from a far away terrorist organization. he was hearing it from politicians and radical lgbtq extremists right here in our own country. every time we see legislation that puts a target on the back of lgbt people, every time we hear a preacher that spews hate from the pulpit, every time a county clerk says acknowledging us violates her religious beliefs, it signals that we are less than. that is deeply engrained in the hate and bigotry that motivates such tragedy in this country and together that's what we must defeat because at the end of the day the same hatred that motivated this attack in orlando is the same hatred that killed
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matthew shepherd so many years ago and the same hatred behind these killings is the same hatred that was behind the killings at emanuel church in charleston or the temple in wisconsin. it is the same hate we must all continue to fight each and every day. i'd now like to turn things over to the executive director of the national center for transgender equality. >> what is your name, sir? >> chad griffin. >> hello, i'm the executive director for the national center of transgender equality. today i'm both heartbroken and furious. we do not yet know if any or how many of the victims were transgender. we know that this was a club that was much frequented by transgender folks. and these are kids. it's young adults and kids who go tonight clubs.
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and i am just furious that once again we have another mass shooting, this now apparently the worst mass shooting in american history, and it comes at a time when lgbt people and transgender people are traumatized by the hate that's coming at them from politicians and anti-extremist groups and extremist ministers. we have had more than a dozen transgender people murdered so far this year. and the hate has chad said that is doing this is the same hate that caused violence and death at the temple in wisconsin and mother emanuel church in charleston. and we need to get to the point where all of us get together and say when they come for anybody, we will speak out. we want them to come for us first. when they come for muslims, they ever to come for us first. when they come for immigrants, they have to come for us first.
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it is hate aimed at all of us. it is extremism aimed at all of us. while there is no direct link between the hate spewed by politicians and ministers, there is no mistake they are trying to make us scared. they're going to cause people who aren't thinking straight to come after us, but we are going to be strong. we are going to be together. and we are going to win. when i say we are going to be together, i mean it has to be all of us. it has to be all of us. we have to stand up when this happens at planned parenthood. we have to stand up when it happens to a black church this charleston. we have to stand up every time together against this kind of extremism and this kind of violence. as an lgbt leader, i want to say many of us having saying for sometime. we can no longer have an effective or moral lgbt movement
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unless it is also an anti-racism, a pro-immigrant worker movement, a pro-women movement. there are people who want to come for all of us. we have to be standing there together. everybody is in our thoughts. thank you very much. i'd like to introduce you next to cornell william brooks, the president and ceo of the naacp. >> good afternoon. on behalf of the millions of members and supporters of the naacp, i want to assert clearly that we stand shoulder to shoulder, heart to heart, hand in hand with our brothers and sisters in the lgbtq community. make no mistake. when you violate, when you
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desecrate, when you assassinate the humanity of any of us, it is a civil rights issue at the top of the naacp's agenda. this moment that we find ourselves in is a trying hour in the midst of this imperfect union, this american democracy. and yet in this hour, we're reminded that this is the holy month of ramadan. this is gay pride month. this is nearly to the day one year after nine students of scripture were assassinated in a church. yes, for many of us, even this methodist preacher, this is the sabbath day. when you take the lives of god's children on the sabbath day, people of every faith of every ethnicity of every hue have to
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stand up and take notice and stand out. it is that clear. this is a moment in which we have to be clear. our hearts are extended to every mother, every father, every brother, every sister, every aunt, every uncle, every grandmother, every grandfather who lost a child, a loved one, in a nightclub, a nightclub that was known to be a place where people gathered for friendship and fellowship to sing and dance, but also a nightclub that spoke out and spoke up for the rights of god's children. so we stand together being very clear that we must create concentric circles of empathy and compassion. yes, this is a trying hour. yes, this is a difficult hour, but we find ourselves in the midst of a season of love. and we love one another so much that we're willing to stand up
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for one another's rights. we're willing to call for sensible, thoughtful gun control, and yes, whether or not this crime is called a homophobic act of terrorism, whether it is called a generic act of terrorism, or it is called a hate crime, whatever it is it is a crime and a violation against our values as americans. and as such, we have to be clear. we have to be strong. and we have to demonstrate to the entire world our resolve. we will not allow the forces of hate to take down our citizens. we will not allow our values to be violated because we are are one family, one nation under god, who loves us all, whom we all love in different ways when we stand together as god's children. >> this is a press event we've been seeing being held by the
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human rights campaign. along these very same lines, we want to work into this conversation brian levin, director for the center of study of hate and extremism at cal state. brian, the part of this that really angers so many americans on top of this two-pronged hate crime that is also terrorism is the isis involvement. perhaps aspirational on their part after the fact, saying, as i've been saying for the past hour, oh, yeah, he was one of ours. >> yes, absolutely. a similar thing happened after the terrible attack in san bernardino. let me just take one quick moment to my dear friends at the human rights campaign whom we work together on legislation and various other matters. to the lgbtq community, our prayers and hearts go out to you. we stand with you shoulder to
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shoulder from san bernardino. we will not tolerate this kind of act of hate and terrorism in a pluralistic, civilized society. thank you for the e-mails from both that community and from my friends of goodwill in the muslim community. one of the things we have seen here is a strategy isis has been doing, which has been to inspire misanthropes, unstable people, criminals, recent converts, a motley mix of either unstable or hateful people to attack in their home communities because they can't apply what they've been doing in europe where they have a land bridge, really, which goes between theater in iraq and syria and then back into places like belgium or france or kosovo. what we see here is a strategy, and they say it. they say it in their magazines and in their internet social
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networking statements. go attack soft targets in your community, whatever they are, and that will send a message. and i think that's what we've seen here. the notion that after publicity came out about the 911 call with the assailant pledging allegiance to daesh sounded after the fact. in this case, they called them warriors, which seems to suggest they were somehow orchestrated or trained. but the fact of the matter is i've wrote about it and testified before congress about this type of strategy. and i also testified about this type of strategy with regard to other extremists back in 1995. i also testified about the
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horrific violence that our lgbt community experienced in mississippi in 1994. that has been going on for a long time. the right of americans to express their personal relationships a cornerstone of individual liberty. this is both a hate crime. a hate crime is a criminal offense where someone is targeted in whole or in part because of their actual or perceived group status such as being the lgbt community, but it is also an act of terrorism. terrorism as defined under federal rules and law is the use of violence, force, or intimidati intimidation to intimidate a subgroup for a political objective. that's what we have seen here. what we have to do is stand up and say finally when our community is hit, it doesn't matter what the sexual orientation is. these are our neighbors and our brothers and sisters and we stand by them. i had the opportunity to
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represent gay organizations throughout my career and our hearts go out to them. i also want to say though that these kinds of mpeople target moderate muslims in the u.s. they mention muslim americans of goodwill here in the united states. just this morning i have been getting contacted not only by the lgbt community, who said we're not going to fall into this trap of anti-muslim prejudice, but also from my dear friends at goodwill who i celebrated with just on friday that they stand with our brothers and sisters in the lgbt community. it is both an act of terrorism and an active hate crime. it must be recognized as such. just one quick point, when it is labeled terrorism, that puts the fbi as the lead agency. i can tell you that they are going to search all the previous
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investigations of which there appears to be two in 2013 and 2014 as well as vehicles, residenc residences, phones, computers to get an idea of what kind of a relationship it is. but it fits a pattern where miskrmi miscreants are inspired by isis. this is an affront not only to the united states, but to civilized communities anywhere. when i was in the police academy -- just one quick thing. my police science instructor said courage was when king christian came up front and said if you want to round up the
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jews, you have to round up me first. we have to stand shoulder to shoulder with friends in our lgbt community and our muslims that are targets of extremism. >> thank you for your passion on this topic, which the study of which happens to be your life's work. we'll take a quick break in our coverage and continue right after this. ♪ using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the framework... wire... and plants needed to give my shop... a face... no one will forget. see what the power of points can do for your business. learn more at chase.com/ink
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♪ "dinner!" "may i be excused?" get the new xfinity tv app and for the first time ever stream live tv, watch on demand, and download your dvr shows anywhere. we are back covering this awful tragedy in orlando, florida. the name of the nightclub pulse. this was conceived and built by a woman who lost her brother to aids many years ago. pulse was to indicate the pulse
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of his life, his spirit and life form, and it was intended as much more than just a club, than a nightclub on nights like last night. big dance gathering. last night was latin night at pulse in orlando. it's been home to a lot of gatherings over the years and indeed was one of the few safe places for a lot of folks in orlando. it's not the orlando, florida, most tourists see in orlando, florida when they go from airport right to disney world or universal studios or seaworld. this is the city of orlando. pulse is a little bit south from the very center of the city. it's a matter of blocks away from orlando's city hall. the first word of the tragedy came in after 2:00 a.m. that's when this gunman, the terrorist, entered.
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it became quickly a mass casualty event. it became quickly a hostage situation. and think of the following two stats. 103 people were struck by bullets last night. 50 of them died. 53 are part of the wounded being treated. one hospital performed 27 surgeries. and it took 11 police officers, a total of 11 cops, discharged their weapons trying to take this guy down. we try the say as often as possible when a terrible event takes us on the television that -- i believe it is still true that most police officers in this country retire without ever having discharged their weapons. we can't tell you how -- despite news coverage to the contrary -- how rare it is, especially in
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rural areas. you can go your whole life without ever using your gun. last night 11 city police officers in orlando had to use theirs to defend themselves and try take down this terrorist gunman. he was a lot of things according to the press accounts that are coming out today. he was an abusive husband for a short time. he was a homophobe driven to violence by what he saw on the streets of orlando, two men kissing, after which he became incensed. 5:00 hour has arrived. it has been roughly 12 hours since the situation was finally stopped in orlando and we learned the extent of the death toll. at first, a lot of americans woke up to learn the horrible number that as many as 20 people may have been
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