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this hour. i'll be back tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m., but first mtp daily starts right now. >> it is wednesday, donald trump is a man on an island. his poll numbers are starting to show it, republican leaders are starting to say it. how much more can the gop take. this is mtp daily and it starts right now. good evening, i'm chuck todd on capitol hill. in politics good gets better and bad gets worse, some members of donald trump's own part are calling him a bigot.
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-- running for cover more than ever. >> donald trump suggested that the president may have been synthetic in some way to the terrorists. >> i'm not going to be commenting on the presidential candidate today. >> was it appropriate for donald trump to suggest that the president was somehow synthetic to the terrorist? >> i'm not going to waste my time and get into the day today habit on commenting on what the president says and what the nominee says. >> we basically have no system for vetting rev fe-- refugees before they come into the country when they do. >> i would rather not be commenting. >> -- is not the party's nominee yet.
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senator john core ncorenn said done talking about donald trump. >> on the republican side this is not about banning all muslims, this was an american citizen born in queens, this idea of shutting everybody in america off of the muslim faith makes it harder, not easier to destroy radical islam. >> i think the smarter way to go in all respects is to have a security test and not a religious test. >> recent poling has been brutal for trump. check out this new cbs poll while president obama has received ravings and trumps a
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low, trump's unfavorable is now up to 70% overall, it is unprecedented for a general election candidate. a 10% increase since last month. but trump is not affected by it. here is trump this afternoon. >> we have to put a stop to it until such time until we can figure out what is going on because right now we don't have a clue what's going on, folks. even if you had a small percentage coming in thinking like this person who again was born here but his parents weren't and his ideas weren't born here, his ideas were born from someplace else. we have to make check respectfully the mosques, and we have to check other places because this is a problem that
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if we don't solve it, it is going to eat our country alive, okay. it is going to eat our country ali alive. >> things could get even worse for republicans when you consider the timing, the fallout from trump's attack on a judge are fresh in the memory. this happened julast week. >> you're not supportive because of what he said about the judge that was too racist and bigot. >> if you are comfortable with that rhetoric it says more about you than me. >> over the past two weeks, republicans have slammed trump as racist, a bigot and irreproachable. >> senator sessions is by the way donald trump's national security advisory.
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thanks for coming on the show, sir. >> thank you. >> last week you were pretty honest and pretty blunt, you said let me get it correctly it was not the best of weeks. it feels from the outside it has gotten worse, what do you think? >> i don't think so. i think the speech he gave and the attack on america really raised the issues, it is not guns, it is a dangerous ideology that does threaten america, we have to find out a better way to protect us from those kind of threats and i think we can. >> now some of your colleagues, mark kirk called it unamerican, ben sass says it was a racist comment. senator corker discouraged by the direction of the campaign,
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senat senatorga ham called it highly offensive. soms some of the senators have been open, what. >> we absolutely protect the rights of every american to care out their religious beliefs as they choose. we respect them and the muslim religion, what he'scying is we need to be careful about who he let into the country. you have no right if you possess an ideology that says it is okay to murder gay people. give me a break. i think some of our people feel like he is dismissing an entire religion and that is not what he said. >> senator, if he had said it the way you said it then you would have an a easier time
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defending him but the problem is he's not saying it that way, he's saying a temporary ban on all muslims immigrating from any country, you didn't say that he has. >> he said a temporary ban until we figure out what's going on and i think that's a legitimate analysis here. it is time for us to review what we're doing put aside political correctness, reject the idea that we can't even say that radical islam is the driving force behind this terrorism. he made hillary clinton say it she was refusing to say it he finally said it once, her position is untenable, president obama position is untenable. you cannot know it -- >> everyone has quietly asked us not to use that phrase. muslim leaders say don't give the terrorists the platform of
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religion. this is a cult, these are terrorists, nothing to do with islam when they say don't use that phrase. that's exactly what they want. what do you think? >> i don't think that's an accurate analysis of it. we are saying not islam is a threat to america, what we are saying the radical element within it that is there, they believe they're religious even though we believe they're outside the great religion of islam, they think they're not, but they believe they are justified in following sha riri law. we need to understand that threat and actually challenge it and also militarily challenge it. >> how do you think our policy changes if we change the name? >> i think we begin to confront
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our friends and allies. i have a memory in the south of churches that did not allow african-americans to attend and they had to defend themselves on national television on a camera saying can an african-american enter your church here, yes or no? >> so we have not faced them on the religious and security implications and i think a healthy discussion of it, a respectful discussion of these are important. >> you believe it is on imams all over the world to root out this element more than it is on anybody else that the burden is on them? >> yes, to a large degree, right. we know king ab dudula of jorda have both called out and
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condemned them. we have to have more of an open national discussion about that. they need to be asked do you believe that gays should be killed or not? and do you believe jihad involves violence? do you believe that you must over thrthrow the constitution the united states because that's your religious duty? i think that kind of discussion would be healthy. >> do you believe that somehow this is going to pass constitutionalism, if we have a religious test for deciding who gets to come into this country. >> well it really isn't about religion, is it some believe that islam calls for more than a personal religious faith. they believe it comes from state domination and one form of la,
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sha rria law, allah, and that i is immutable and cannot be changed so we need to understand what we are dealing with religiously and we need to challenge our allies and friends around the world -- constitutional we, you don't have a congressional right to demand entry into the united states. the law of the united states today is if a president finds a person or class of persons detrimental to the united states he can deny entry. we can do a better job of requiring of places that have a history of attacking us what their beliefs are and we don't have to accept everybody. you don't have a constitutional right to enter the united states. our duty ssis as a matter of la the-to advance the national interest, not to ep danger it.
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>> we have been humanitarians for a long time and there are hundreds of thousands of people basically homeless in the middle east and they believe that one of the reasons that has to do with it is the war that has been going off and on at least where the united states has been in war in iraq and that we have a duty to accept some of these refugees, do you believe that we have during a time of war to acceak accept some of these refugees. >> we simply cannot accept people endangered in their homeland, that's not practical we can't vet them and don't have the ability to do so, i do think we need to do more and i've called on the military to create safe zones in syria and other
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places that can be safely maintained. it will relieve pressure on europe, on us and help humanitarian ways, help us serve the humanitarian interests and i've got to tell you just with the saudi arabiian prince and he indicated that the -- it helps stop terrorisms, it's the way that we have tried to create democracy that have turned to chaos, i think he made a pretty good point about destabilizing countries particularly those that have been our allies. >> i think iraq is one a lot of people use. i know a lot of senators in your tuesday conference meeting you become the gripe, the person to gripe to about donald trump since you are the first person
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to endorse him. what have you been telling your colleagues? will he change his tone? will he change his rhetoric because it makes your colleagues uncomfortable? i tell them give the guy a break. he's not a select politician used to answering ever one of these questions and basically a lot of times not tell the truth, we say answers that are slick but really push away the real substance of the issue, so i asked that he be considered correctly, is it totally wrong to say that we're going to be more careful about who we admit to america? >> i don't think so. >> but to get him to say it the way you say it which is a full on temporary ban around the world. >> i've been in the senate for 20 years figuring out ways to say things, this is a man of
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action, he's a leader, he challenges, the system needs to be challenged from the national security, border security, all of these areas we are completely out of control on and this man has the cape ability of providing the leadership necessary to fix it. >> senator jeff sessions thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up a republican senator who called donald trump's insinuations about the president offensive. ron johnson. >> and the rapidly changing landscape of the battleground map is utah in play? keep it here. r and shrimp summe! with the lobster and shrimp... ...you love in so many new dishes, you're gonna wanna try... ...every last one. like the new coastal lobster & shrimp. with a wood-grilled lobster tail, ...wild-caught red shrimp crusted with panko, ...and shrimp fresh off the grill and brushed with... ...summer ale bbq sauce.
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breaking political news late this afternoon after repeatedly saying he would not run for a second term, marco rubio is saying he is reconsidering the
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florida senate seat. lopez canter ra would step asid if rubio would run again. and he confirmed a few minutes ago he is open. >> my colleagues and i had a conversation on sunday before i left. obviously i take everything seriously that is going on not just in orlando, so i will go home later this week and have some time with my family and if there's been a change in our status i'll be sure to let everyone know. >> the deadline for candidates to file in florida is june 24 in nine days and the primary is in nine days. you would expect some of them would drop out. david jolly said he would, but if rubio runs again there's a
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suspected terrorist links, you should not be able to buy a gun with no questions asked. >> if some of those great people that were in that club that night had guns strapped to their wastes or strapped to their ankle, and if the bullets were going in the other direction aimed at this guy who was just open target practice you would have had a situation, folks, which would have been always horrible, but nothing like the carnage that we all as a people suffered this weekend. nothing. >> the issue has lit a fire under both parties in congress. trump met with the nra yesterday. -- told the cleveland dealer that he would ban guns for people on the government's watch
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list. >> i think there should be a way to have a due process whether you're on that list or not and this is an area where we should be able to find consensus. >> corbin's position now is the same as it always been, to purchase a firearm last year o via the core rrin appointment. >> he isn't the only one up for re-election, pat toomey is back in the fight to expand background checks, i'm joined by another republican senator senator ron johnson of wisconsin. how are you, sir? >> good. how about yourself. >> not too bad.
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to clarify it a little bit the two amendments up last time about this terror watch list, there was one then there was the core rrin about 72 hours, but i no action happened that person could get that gun within sort of an extra waiting period. where do you stand today on this issue, senator? >> i think the senator core rin's amendment protected rights and due process. no republican i know wants to see a terrorist or would be terrorist be able to purchase a gun, so we agree on that. let's make sure we concentrate on that area of agreement and find a way to protect american rights to due process. we just came from a bipartisan
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with fbi director comey and johnson, there's an all a lot of confusion about the data bases the watch lists, we have to clarify that and come to some area of agreement so terrorists do not have access to guns, let's not politicize this, let's work toward a bipartisan agreement on the issue. >> it is my understanding that the fbi, that if this happens this way, if the terror watch list, the terror watch list becomes more public and -- did that get broug up in your briefing? >> is to be on that watch list, that's all classified. we don't know what is it is. >> and it should be, right? >> yes, it should be, how do the americans get off of it the due process, it is far more complex
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than it is said to be. let's find a way to keep due process and keep guns away from terrorists. we ought to be able to figure this out. >> your colleague pat toomey are going to introduce the gun show loophole way it's been referred by some, where are you on that issue, i don't think you did -- you did have a chance to vote on that last time. where are you on this? >> i've gone to a lot of gun show, and vast majority have background checks and we want to be able to protect americans right's, not in the business of selling firearms that you can do that without going through all the hoops. the vast majority done at gun shows are through licensed dealers, i have a disagreement of that terminology gun show
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loophole, there really isn't. >> vast majority means not 100%. why not have -- i understand if somebody decide they want to sell some of their collection at the gun show, why can't there be the gun show sponsor, pro moteer, make sure there's a background check, is that too much to ask? >> what about exchange between family members an that type of thing? again, we have so many gun control laws. why don't we start basically enforcing the laws already in our books? >> well, the best way to do that would probably to expand a.t.f. how much appetite is there to expand a.t.f. agents, that becomes politicized sometimes.
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>> there's a couple hundred that are actually prosecuted. i think we have enough prosecutors to do that. enforce gun laws on the books. >> you don't think we need more prosecutors though? you're right about the laws, but we don't have enough people policing it it seems to be. >> it's prosecutorial discretion, so that's up to them to pros aecute or not. >> you haven't been happy about donald trump's speech, the comments about the president were offensive. that's your nominee for your party. you have to run on the top of the ticket with him in wisconsin. new poll out today looks like he's hurting you, do you think this renomination process should be reopened? >> i'm responsible for my own words, my own actions and as i do on a bipartisan action, i'm
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looking for areas of agreement on big issues growing the economy, certainly strengtheninstrengthing our military, the borders, if i disagree with mr. trump or hillary clinton i will make sure i will be our voice and voice those disagreements. >> they're sometimes hard markers that become basically end up where the entire party gets defined by what your nominee says, so what he did with judge curiel, what he did with the president, does that give you comfort? are you still comfortable voting for him. >> i'm stating my areas of disagreement, i'm going to concentrate on the areas of agreement it's that simple. >> there is chatter, obviously
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wisconsin is a state that didn't support d.o.onald trump, but ri now there doesn't seem to be an open challenge at the convention, what do you think? >> i'm not a delegate, there are 13 -- that voted for mr. trump, again, what i'm hoping mr. trump says is start concentrating on the areas we do agree on, economic growth, the crushing regulatory burden that is preventing our economy from growing to potential, keeping energy prices down, i think you would do a lot better off. >> i've heard a lot of senators say the same thing, well, if he would just do this, just do this, but it never seems to happen. >> well, hope still springs
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fresh out of wisconsin is adding to donald trump's b troubles marquette's poling shows hillary clinton with a nine point lead over donald trump. wisconsin currently has leans, he beat mitt romney by 12 points. this is where the trump movement actually worked thank to a unified republican party and conservative top radio dominance presence locally. trump's campaign enjoyed an ambitious strategy back in may. they say yes, top states like florida and ohio will be on the
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list, but stretches to 15 states with the exception of georgia they are all democratic leaning states, his home state of new york, and he couldn't even go to dinner in california, and in georgia where trump held a rally today. he is aggressively looks like playing a little bit of defense, in that same vain he visits texas tomorrow. a state he lost to ted cruz by, it has not been a traditional battleground, but maybe the traditional maps get thrown out. from utah to leans republican what is after the third poll i believe we have seen that shows donald trump essentially dead even. the hillary clinton campaign is booking $7 million to air adds
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in eight battleground states. ohio virginia, new hampshire, well come to you our strategyis strategyists. >> this map looks like it gets better for democrats every week these days. >> i'm not seeing hillary clinton campaign with -- candidates, she is still a real difficult anchor and their ankles. >> well, there has to be. >> there arpt any states moving red besides wisconsin and pennsylvania. >> i guess the point, is if we are talking about utah, georgia, arizona then at this point you're not talking about a battleground map, but about how big is the win going to be?
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>> exactly. don't forget when you're talking about people campaigning for -- democrats are going to have some pretty big surrogates. bind will be out there, obama will be out there. >> i haven't seen a senate candidate comfortable with running with donald trump. >> we have seen both sides, we have the two lease popular can't dates in history, that's not going to change, they're going to get less popular, not more, so i think it is going to be a very lonely presidential campaign stage. >> to me, it is a flashing yellow sign if you're a republican rerunning, it showed up in the wisconsin poll and
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bloombu bloomburg, it was the reverse four years ago, enthusiasm what they tell you is an intensity of turn out, if it is down 10%, what does that mean? >> republicans can get motivated by the white house, sometimes the senate, sometimes by other races down ballot. it is certainly a problem to make sure the republican base is motivated. democrats could end up the same way, their nominee is the least popular they have ever had. they are banking on millennials showing up. >> brad is not part on that, that is one part that makes me nervous, how does hillary clinton how does she get them back over to her side that she lost to bernie sanders? >> and they're the lowes
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propensity even when they're excited a tbout the candidate. >> jamal, i'll start with you, her core first add buy is the first core eight states. looks like the same biden made in 12. not in wisconsin and pennsylvania, but also not arizona georgia, the two states they talk about. when do you experiment trying to talk about the states if you're the clinton campaign? >> you guys have been talking about this a lot over the last few days. if you can nail donald trump down in the next two or three weeks, then you can play around a little bit an get busy. >> you would go for the core eight first? >> absolutely. go there and then you can do some experimenting. >> the donald trump rally in
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georgia, two rallies in texas, nevada on saturday, but also fi-in addition -- phoenix. he has not been in ohio, he's got work to do in michigan, what's going on? >> i think all those cities are in range with one tank of fuel and a 747 from la gar igaria, h approach is very different than how you target where you're going. >> but these rallies, i remember the bush, let me tell you how we used these rallies. they were always with the bush world targeted specifically to pick up a chunk of volunteers who became door knockers. >> true. >> and their also larger than
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the bush rallies were. >> so the opportunity could be there but they don't use it. >> they have concluded that this is an earned media campaign, take your cameras, trucks and fi microphon microphones. >> and on the democratic side they are building out states all over the country and getting people locked and loaded. >> are you concerned about this run strategy? >> it is certainly none of us thought would work in the primary and it did. >> we'll leave it there i guess as your other -- hope springs eternal for you, huh? >> brad and jamal, thank you both. >> leaving the tea leaves down the ballot. and results for tuesday mean. keep it here. on with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing.
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returning to congress after those appalachian trail trub troubles. randy forbes wasn't so luck by being the third incumbent to lose this year, he was running in a new district after virginia was ordered to redo their congrenco concongressional map. and he lost.
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aisle. molly travels any way, right. we have been mostly on the republican side. molly i want to start with you because you wrote that terrific piece this is how the revolution ends, they include new >> i think you can't overlook
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the fact that president obama came in and kind of dropped the mike there. he sort of reestablished himself as the adult of the party, and a lot of wind that was behind sanders and his supporters kind of was taken out by obama coming in and saying i'm endorsing hillary. we're going move ahead. a will the of the bernie supporters still like obama. >> when hillary and obama were running against each other -- >> each side had allies. now he's got millions of young voters who hillary clinton needs these people to come to her
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side. he does have their leverage. they have to give him their attention. that's really valuable thing now. >> i have an out question for you both on this topic. elizabeth warren or bernie sanders, who will be the leading progressive critic of a president clinton, should it happen? >> i think it may start with sanders, but i think warren will be the biggest voice if there's any criticism. >> what do you say? >> it depends on what bernie wants to do. he has this army of millions of people. he needs to understand he can marshal that army. he can raise money for more people than just a random house democratic candidate here or there. if he starts doing that he can get more leverage and influence. >> bernie sanders talks to the press. elizabeth warren does not.
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she's almost offensive about it to reporters. >> warren is more concerned with an inside game. she has discussions with clinton and ended up endorsing her. bernie has always been about the outside game. he may use the megaphone to publicly criticize a hypothetical clinton where warren would take the criticism to the white house. >> let's go to the other story, which is the anxiety. is it worse this week than last week? >> with donald trump, i think they have come to accept him as their very flawed nominee. they're all trying to walk a fine line. there's not a lot of doubling enthusiasm. people know he's the nominee. the idea they can find way goat rid of him at the convention, that's an outlier.
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it's really interesting. a lot of them will be on the ballot with him. it's a really precarious situation for them. they're wondering how their own political futures will look depending on what they say and do in relationship to trump. >> i feel like we're in the reverse of the stages of grief. now they're going backwards. they were at acceptance. it's like a few of them are working their way back. >> we caught him yesterday in the basement of the capital, asked him what he thought about the speech monday and for five seconds he paused and went i, i, i don't have a lot to say on that.
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now they see that trump doesn't feel like he doesn't owe them anything and he doesn't owe them anything, so now they feel free to criticize him. usually they have to pretend they agree with the nominee a lot more. they're still in this really tough spot where they are caught between what the base has been deciding in terms of the nominee and what the general electorate will think. >> i can go to mid term elections any time someone is running away from the party leader or the president, that party loses. >> i've never seen anything like this. he's also kryptonite to them. a lot of them are quite worried about it. i can see as corker stuttering in the hallway, they don't know what to say about this. paul ryan saying i'm going to
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