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>> good day, i am kristen k welker. new investigation of the orlando massacre. the text messages exchange between the gunman and his wife during the actual shooting. nbc's miguel is joining me now with the later, pete williams, i want to start with you with the text messages of what it reveals of the latest investigation. >> well, it reveals that authorities are going through the electronic devices left behind by omar mateen, his phone and someone damaged by water. they're able to get a great deal of information off of text messages. we have quotation marks on them. i am not sure if these are actually verbatim quotes. according to authorities, the substance of what they say to each other. according to law enforcement
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fir officials and those close to her. she was awaken from her relative. she sent a text to him. she initiated this saying where are you and he sent back saying do you see what's happening on the news. she says no. and he said, i love you babe. whether those are the actual word of the text, i don't think they are. that's what we were told of the substance of this brief exchange of text messages. it is consistent with other things he was doing during the pause that around 2:30 or so after the initial shooting while he's holding up in the bathroom, he makes three 911 calls, he called the television producer saying he's doing this in the name of isis and a posting on facebook saying this all about isis and the exchange of text messages that was apparently
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initiated by her after a relative called to say where is omar. >> we were talking a lot about she maybe charged. what can you tell us about that? >> we are told that there is no rush to bring any charges against anybody at this point. they don't feel like anybody one else out there needs to be rounded up. they don't believe he acted with anyone else. they want to make sure they get information out of everybody. if anyone is arrested and charged that shuts down the ability to question and makes it less likely to talk and complicates out investigators talk to them and so they want to take their time. in these investigations, you ask initial questions and you learn more things and come back and ask some more. they know where she is, they know where the other relatives are and they are taking their time. >> all right, i am going to go out to miguel now, i understand you have been talking to a lot of folks out there of survivors, what can you tell us and what's the latest out there.
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>> reporter: kristin, we spoke to miguel who survived in the bathroom. he described the chilling moments over that three hour. he was in the hostage situation, two and a half hours later after police made their way in and take out the gunman. he described the chilling scene. a handicap bathroom stall for some 31 people. only seven of those people made it out of that bathroom stall alive. he can hear the gunman laughing and shooting people. he can hear the sound of his clips falling out of his gun and reloading. people were in pain for hours as they were bleeding through the night waiting for help to arrive. miguel told us, he thought police did the best job they could. he can hear the suspect on the phone. he told us he was disgusted by the news that he was on facebook
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and text messaging with his wife as other innocent victims laid there and died. certainly the two and a half hours is a chilling scene and one he will never forget and he still has nightmares today. >> miguel, you have been out there for a number of days now. how is the community coping when you are hearing all these stories of horror. >> the memorials are growing bigger. we are seeing people wearing the orlando t-shirts all around. the gay community has been supportive taking care of all the victims. many of the victims like miguel we spoke to he's still in serious pain and nightmares and the bloodshed here is still fresh on many people's minds. you can see the major streets here is shut down, there is still daily reminders of what
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happened here and more funerals will be had today. many people are feeling connected to this community. >> still devastated. >> miguel almaguer. thank you very much for your reporting. we want to turn now overs seas over the fight over isis. iraqis forces are in the neighborhood of the city of fallujah. nbc's richard engel is joining me now. what's the latest, put this in perspective for us, strategically how significant is the iraqis forces? >> reporter: i think it is quite significant for the iraqis forces, they have been able to launch what has been a fairly effective campaign against isis. something that many people thought they were not able to do. fallujah was one of the first cities to fall to isis even
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before mosul. it is been a place that's of a special concern to baghdad because it is so close to baghdad. you remember fallujah was where the u.s. marine, some of the same militants went out and defound isis were in fallujah. they went back and established a head kwaquarters. this is not a new operation, it is slow going. iraqis forces said they were encountering less and less resistance. they an natchmanaged to get to center of fallujah. now, they're heading north and moving to the south and clearing north to push isis out. isis is now effectively surrounded. there are some isis fighters in
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the northern part. further north are the millitia forces and to the west is the zuni militia and the iraqis federal police and counter terrorism forces that found themselves quite surprising to not be meeting much resistance and entering in to fallujah. we'll see if isis is able to regroup or pmore likely which i what they have done in the past is try to attack soft targets, bomb families and carrying out a plot to try to get in soft diverted attention and enrage the iraqis forces trying to prompt them to carry out some
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sort of atrocity. this is not over. >> it is the key question. whether this continue, richard, i want to shift gear a little bit and ask you of another story we are learning today. 50 states department issuing a memo criticizing president obama's strategy inside saudi arabia. the president only have several months left in office. >> reporter: well, frankly, i think the impact is what we are doing right now. i think these diplomats wanted to not just register their complaints internally and there is an internal channel where state department officials can register their decent and that's what they did. they did not just register there opposition to current policies in syria. this memo was then leaked todd the media.
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a group has formed of the state department and group decided he does not agree and cannot mor morally be silent while the policy is continuing and generating debates. we are seeing that debate with the argument of new york times and the washington post and the wall street journal and cable news discussions of it. in one aspect you can say it is been effective and it is causing a debate about this strategy in syr syria. to capsulate what this is, the u.s. is no longer pressuring assad and now backed up openly by moscow to carry out military offenses and carrying out atrocity to our civilians. we don't agree and we want more pressure put on assad.
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>> this debate will undoubtedly, richard richard engel, thank you for all that reporting. we appreciate it. >> that was paul ryan's message for republican voters in a new interview with chuck todd, chuck joins me next right here on msnbc on "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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>> you wake up in the morning and you read the paper, there it goes again. okay, i got to say this, how many more times can you do that? >> i don't know the answer to that question either. [ laughter ] >> and that is our average week for house speaker paul ryan ever since donald trump became the presumptive nominee including this look ahead with chuck todd in "meet the press" with the exclusive interview. >> do you think members, follow your conscious, if you don't want to support them, don't do it. >> the last thing i would do is tell everybody that's contrary to their conscious. i would not do that. believe me, i get this, this is a strange situation and a unique nominee. i feel as a responsibility, as speaker of the house that i should not leading some casualty, you know that'll knock us out of the white house. >> chuck todd, great to see you
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>> of course, hello, kristin. >> what a striking comment. vote your conscious. what is your take away on that? this is main strategy just to give cover to vulnerable republicans. i don't know if there were strategies behind that. i know a lot of people are trying to read into his language there and lair fairly to him, i the one that introduced the word conscious. i think it is more, he's come to the conclusion that he thought he's the elected leader of 240 republicans who asked him to be speaker of the house. he feels op gated to support. you can hear that in his voice and he basically says that. he's clearly not comfortable with it. you would not call the situation strange and unique. i think his strategy has been, i am going to keep explaining.
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he does not want to keep commenting everyday. it is not like john cornyn, i am done commenting for the rest of the campaign. ryan does believe it is better for the party if you have doubts about the nominee to at least express those doubts constantly. because it gives you an opportunity down the road to maybe win the republican voter and still wants the party to be in charge of the house and senate. >> we are seeing other top republicans just breaking trump complete and former president george w bush is going to be campaigning with some senate, senators who are in trouble. he's campaigning with the campaign and he's going to be out. what does this tell you and how effective can a former president
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bush can be. >> there are some gaps now between the two party, this nominee, donald trump, he does not have a big donor network. money is not coming into the party. donor has been sitting at our hands. the bush network is a big network around this country. i am sure a lot of campaigns who thought they would have presidential nominee helps won't have it. they need somebody of an equal sta ch statue. the second way he's helpful here, the lack of enthusiasm of this presidential election and among republicans. we have seen two polls, one in wisconsin that shows gaps. it is a gap that the republicans have the advantage on four years
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ago and with romney. so if you have about 10% republicans to moralize about trump, those republicans are bush-type republicans. he could help with that core group of demoralizing republicans who don't like trump but need a reason to get to the polls. maybe they don't have one yet. >> you bring up mit romney, i want to look back to that race a little bit. you have been arguing today that this is such a critical moment that the clinton campaign is effectively defining donald trump. he's out raising money and reliably in read states. lets play the ad and i want to get your reaction on the other side. this is 2012. >> oh, beautiful, forever waves are gray. for purple mountains majesty
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above the plain. america, america,. >> it worked on the others. it is only june. how pivotal is it? >> if i hear that phrase, it is only june. this is an important moment now. you saw what happened with obama and romney. obama had the advantage of advantaging and romney had the super pacs that came in and tried to balance it out. for the most part the obama campaign got the jump. clinton campaign had to jump on trump. nobody is responding to these clinton ads right now. i mean nobody. there is a one super pac that got a million dollars cable buy.
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she's up in the core battleground and right now by herself until the 4th of july, unless it changes. if this is how it goes, we are going to start to see this lead start to look like, it is going to kcement, cement is going to start drying. july will go away. maybe cancelling each other out or who knows what's going to happen. where the race is at the end of this month, i would argue as the race will become later day. trump being dark right now is a huge problem for republicans. >> that's fascinating. we have confirmed that david jolly is not running for senate. do you think marco rubio is going to run. what happens if he does not? >> at multiple sources tells me,
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reviews have not yet he's in some sort of decision by sunday or monday. all the stars needed him to do this are aligning for the most part. it is tricky. this is a guy who said a lot of negative things about being a senator. this is not going to be easy but for the gop, i understand why they need him. this is a high risk move for marco rubio. he's putting his political future on the line out. two losses in the same year and it is done for him. if he wins, there is light at the end of the tunnel. >> we know you will have the updates on sunday and chuck, we'll be watching and also father's day, happy father's day to you. >> thank you. >> make sure to tune into "meet the press" daily tonight right here on msnbc. there is breaking news, the russian track and field team is banned from participating in the upcoming olympic games over
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. . . . we are learning today that russia tracking field athletes are banned in competing this summer in the olympic in rio. the international association of athletics federation, the iiaf just made the announcement in austria. >> although good progress has been made. t the russian athletes could not credibly return to international
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competition without under minding the competitors and the public. joining me now is keir simmons in indiana with the latest. how big of a surprise is this? >> reporter: it is pretty unprecedented. it is a surprise in a sense that we had a report late last year that was pretty stun zg would not reveal talking about secret lab testings. to hide testings and testing having before the actual results and helping the athletes getting around the doping regulations and there is a trip of more revelation until now. they could not manage to do
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that. as you heard, the president of the iaaf. we are hearing that they'll recommend she will be allowed to compete. you may have not heard her name, she's one of the early whistle blowers of all of this. >> that makes the russians angry if they are not angry already. >> they are cleaning these training outside of russia. the russians will not be impressed by that. we are hearing happy reactions and sports ministry are extremely disappointed and clearing athletes' dreams are being destroyed and a series of athletes and head of the organizations given their reactions and disappointed and angry and frustrated for the team.
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another describing this as not fair play. the russians as we know love their scores. this will go down badly there. >> a stunning development out ov of veienna. >> that's next right here on andrea reports of bernie sanders campaign. ♪ you should hire stacy drew. ♪ ♪ she wants to change the world with you. ♪ ♪ she can program jet engines to talk and such. ♪ ♪ her biggest weakness is she res too much. ♪ thank you. my friend really wants a job at ge. mine too. ♪ i'm a wise elf from a far off shire. ♪ and sanjay patel is who you should hire. ♪ thank you. seriously though, stacy went to a great school and she's really loyal. you should give her a shot. sanjay's a team player and uh...
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they keep ongoing and going. joining me now is chris cillizza. i want to start with you, we know that senator sanders have a number of concessions he would like to win from secretary clinton. is he starting to lose leverage every single day if he drags this out? >> you know, a little bit. let me offer a counter point which is i am not really sure what power bernie sanders is going to lose in the long run. he's not a democratic. i doubt he wants to move up to the leader rank, does he lose a little bit of leverage in terms of what can he gets at the convention, i am not convinced that clinton is going to get rid of wasserman schultz because bernie sanders wants it. i don't think the major planks that he wants in the convention are going to make it.
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this is the short term, yes, a little leverage. yes, the long-term, he does not really care all that about what these people could be and willing to do to him. it gets a little bit over blown. >> karen, your take, democrats are starting to care. i am hearing they're getting a little bit impatient with him. the fact is staying in the race is not doing any damage to hillary clinton as long as he is not out there trashing her. which he is not doing. by sort of technically staying in the race, he keeps his supporters engaged and does a better job keeping the money coming in. he can also kind of keep people focused on, what i think is more important to him right now than getting any sort of concessions out of the democratic party which is sort of figuring out what this political force is that he had created, and how to keep it going. that may well be some where
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outside the bounds of, you know the two party systems. >> that's a great point. secretary clinton did take a few days before he conceded. a lot of buzz of who she may pick for vp. lets take a look at possible names on that list that i have been saying in recent days. >> you were in any way shape or form ready to be come kmond mar commandeering chief. >> the only role i am playing is helping virginia. that's plenty of work for me. >> good news. >> i am not being vetted. >> nobody is asking you for your tax returns or any of your personal data? >> um, the only time i get asked for my personal data is occasionally my credit card number when i am trying to buy
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lunch. [ laughs ] >> i think that if you believe, the clinton people do if they do the basic blocking and tackling here in the remaining months of this race, they are likely when you look at the demographics and the realities of the electoral college map, they are likely to line up at the top. for today, tin cane. karen, what's your take. >> i have never seen a campaign keeping as tight of a lid on these deliberations as the clinton campaign has. >> agreed. >> anybody who tells you does know what's going on. she's got some time. tin cane is a safe choice but it
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is going to be what does she decide she needs at the moment. she has to make that decision. >> i think you are right about that. chris and karen, great discussion as always, thanks so much. >> coming up, new details of the tragic killing of british parliament jo cox. that's next right here on msnbc. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? our new cocktail bitters were doing well, but after one tradeshow, we took off. all i could think about was our deadlines racing towards us. a loan would take too long. we needed money, now.
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district to be with her constituents. police are not identify the suspect. the family was shocked. in a show of unity, david cameran spoke today with german coreman in the neighborhood where jo cox was killed. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon, we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i want to start right there with the suspect and these potential ties to the nazi group. what can you tell us about that and what does it tell us about this vicious act? >> well, the suspect mayor had subscriptions to the natznazi,
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could have been the gun he used to shot cox. it tells you the motive of the shooter and it reflects the fact of the white national movement in this country has an international dimension. people in england frequently come to this country to attend national events. just this kind of rise and ethnic nationalism that we see throughout western europe and the united states. >> let me follow up with that point, how prevalent is it? a lot of people would be surprised to know the international of white nationalism. >> it is very prevalent. the nazi parties have gained seats of the european parliament. today is the anniversary of the charleston shooter. the killer had symbols of the
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regime of south africa and again reflecting the reach of the white movement. you see this kind of explosion of ethnics in our country and the news of syrian refugees. i think some of that anger and white racial resentment is what's playing in mr. trump campaign. >> i want to play this from jo cox herself, this was her speech to parliament. take a look, i will get your reaction on the other side. >> our communities is deeply enhanced. diversities of the things that surprises me time and time again
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as i travel around the constituents that we have -- >> a lot of the rhetoric we are hearing right now. what does it say about this moment? >> well, i mean her eloquence is quite something. it is very different than the rhetoric we are hearing from the presumptive nominee, republican nominee. >> all right, richard cox, thank you very much for your time. i really appreciate it. thank you. >> coming up, will trump's muslim ban holdup in court. next on msnbc.
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temporary bases at least. we have to stop people from pouring into our country. >> that's donald trump calling for a ban in muslim. >> tonight, the houston chronicle reporting, authorities are ramping up security for expected protests after remarks of the muslim ban. is that ban even legal. chief correspondence has an exclusive interview with president obama to help answer that question. ari, congratulations on this exclusive interview. what is he saying about this muslim ban. >> thank you, we don't hear from donald trump that much. he argued all the big cases before the supreme court. he has a good idea of what the justices may think of controversies headed their way. i asked him what you just
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referenced, would that kind of religious ban be legal and here is what he told me. >>. >> when you mention immigration and people look, you got a nominee proposing a religious ban or immigration, legally and constitutionally, would that power exist? >> i would be surprised to think that it would. you think the supreme court would strike it down. >> you don't want to speculate on a case that won't exist and probably never exist. i cannot imagine the court will find a religious test like that be appropriate. >> itself is banned in the constitution? >> in different contest, yes. >> that's his view of why this probably would not be upheld even if donald trump won and got it into law. >> ari, this was a white range interview, i know you did not just talk about that critical topic. you learned a lot about it and tell us our yore take way.
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>> he's an incrementalist. he works piece by piece to get as far as he can. not wanted to get in to marriage because the court was not ready. he came back after being appointed by this president and arguing that of the winning case. you don't have to be a lawyer to understand because i said hey, a lot of big fancy, long arguments of the court but what about some one word answer on big issues, here is our exchange on that asking on one worded things. >> bush or gore. >> no comment. >> president obama. >> heroic. >> justice scalia. >> brilliant. >> ted cruz? >> don't know of him.
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>> obamacare. >> vital. >> marriage equality. >> about time. >> about time he says and chris and i like you and so many other covering that case and watching the response, those are the time that the supreme court, he was front and centered of those arguments. he's stepping down next week. it is interest to review those records with him. >> what a fascinating way to get all of those key topics. thank you. >> great work. >> one year later remembering the victims of the charleston massacre when we come back. a heart attack doesn't careo,
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and so they need our strengths and our prayers. they need our love. i ask that you don't forget the survivors. many of these family members and survivors still feel lost and still feel broken and everyday is a struggle. pray for them. prewriting to do what you can do for them. let them know they are still loved. because anniversaries don't mean anything to them. they're living this each and everyday. it is our job as people to prove to them that june 17th was not in vain. >> that's an emotional south carolina governor nikki haley speaking on the memorial service honoring the victims of the massive massacre.
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nbc's ron is outside emanuel church with more. what is the reaction there, set the scene for us, ron. >> reporter: hey there, good day to you. service is just wrapping up a few blocks away. we are seeing people starting to go this way. the next event here at the church itself at mother emanuel at 4:00 eastern time, there will be another service, afterwards to get people talking eye to eye and person to person because you mentioned that the alleged shooter in this case, thought he wanted to start a race war and had done the opposite. they're talking about tearing down wall in this community. one of the people lost the loved ones their, she lost her mother and two sisters. she was in washington the other day after that democratic filibuster on the senator floor. here is what she had to say. >> the pain of knowing my mother and cousins were killed and in a
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racially motivated hate crime carried out in a black church peacefully praying is something that i cannot read with me everyday. ill struggle to answer why, why my loved ones and so many other people have been killed along with so many americans i was baffled at how the shooter was able to get his hands on a gun and how we live in a country filled with so much hatred. >> reporter: well, obviously, they're talking about gun control here, they're talking about reconciliation here. that's a lot of what the events are surrounding this anniversary all about is getting people closer together more gnattmattet the race. >> this comes days after the orlando massacre.
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what are folks saying to you about that and where are they in their healing process? >> well, i think you know a lot of people collectively are shaking their heads, here we go yet again. the president obama was in orlando yesterday to speak with those families. there is a lot o grieving and misunderstanding of where we are as a country and can we get to that better understanding about gun and violence. >> ron, thank you for your reporting on that very painful anniversary. we appreciate it. >> and before we go, we want to remind you of a memorable moment from president obama touching eulogy at reverend clemente ended with an amazing grace. ♪ amazing grace.
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grace. susie jackson found that grace. sanders found that grace. daniel simmons sr. found that grace. >> to the examples of their lives. it is now passed onto us. may we find ourselves worthy of that precious and extraordinary gift. as long as our lives endure and grace now lead them home. may god continue to share his grace on the united states of america. [ cheering and applause ].
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>> another heartbreaking moment that we'll never forget. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." craig melvin is up next. a good friday to you, at this hour of msnbc, a new twist in the investigation of the massacre at pulse nightclub. the gunman started opening fire around 2:00 a.m. 30 minutes later, the family tells nbc news he started texting his wife during the four hour rampage. at one point, his wife text is, where you? mateen responded, do you see wha what's happening and then i love you babe. we are learning his past and concerns back to his childhood. i knew you got in contact with the gunman's family members. what has been revealed of mateen'sch
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