this sunday, are we seeing the rebirth of the dump trump movement? sinking poll numbers, and comments like this, linking president obama to isis. >> he doesn't get it or he gets it better than anyone understands, one or the other. >> i'm not going to be commenting on the presidential caidate today. >> the last thing i would do is tell anybody to do something that's contrary to their conscience. plus trump reacts to ryan.

a one-on-one with donald trump from the campaign trail. and could the horror of orlando change the national debate on guns? attorney general loretta lynch is here on that this morning and the latest on what the shooter ld hostageegotiators during the siege. and joining me for insight and analysis,ark halperin, ain ifill. and jose diaz ballart. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> narrator: from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning and happy father's day to all fathers out there. the dump trump movement has sprung back to life. why? just look at what ee's happened

the past week. in the wake of orlando, trump's congratulatory tweeting. item two, survey monkey poll among other polls is showing a sharp trend towards hillary clinton. item three, right now while trump is campaigning in states that haven't voted democratic in at least a generation, hillary clinton is conducting an advertising blitz. but don't worry, trump says, he hasn't started the general election campaign. and paul ryan essentially is giving sena republicans a permission slip to run away from trump if they have to. all of ts is insiring talk among jittery republicans of yet another last ditch effort to

prevent trump from becoming the official nominee. >> you have a couple of guys that were badly deated and they're trying to organize, maybe like a little bit of a delegate revolt, maybe. >> reporter: trump has a message for republicans panicking about the polls. he plans to stop his self-inflicted wounds his way. >> in the wake of the orlando massacre, trump stepped up his call for a temporary ban on muslims, and stoked a conspiracy theory. according to one poll, 70% of americans new view trump unfavorably, as do a full third of republicans. republican leaders challenged to defend their nominee are now

responding with a deafening silence. >> i just want to run out the clock here. welcome to our worl >> reportr: so could a stop trump effort turn into a convention coup, and if so ho >> if the polling in theenate contested races starts dropping for the republican candidate, that could cause a panic among al the electedfficials not named donald trump. >> kendall unruh, a democratic rules committee member has circulated a consciouslause that she plans to introduce. >> the delegates have always had the right to conscience and the ability to unbind themselves. so i say we have the kryptonite, we have the power to be able to unbind, but we were told it was just a hunk of glass. >> the alternative, unbind the

delegates or win a supermajority on the first ballot. the alternative is unclear. no challenger has stepped up. >> who are they going to pick? i beat everybody, not only beat, i beat the hell out of them. >> i sat down with the speaker of the house paul ryan about his dilemma. >> well, first of all, i feel like i have certain responsibilities, as not just congressman paul ryan, but as speaker of the house. and imagine the speaker of the house not supporting the duly elected nominee of our rty. therefore creating a chasm in our party to spli us in half, the last thing i want to see happen is another democrat i the white house, i don't want to see hillary clinton as president. i want to see a strong majority in the house and the senate. and i think the way to achieve

those goals is having a unified party. if something is done that i don't agree with that puts a bad label on conservatism, i'm going to speak out on it. >> you just made a case of the party? >> i don't think hillary clinton doesn't agree with any of the conservative reforms we -- i have spoken about our conservative agenda and the policies we need to put in place in order to save the count. and we ha more common ground than any other thing. that is why i'm votingor our nominee. >> why do you trust him? because you've asked him to tone things down, you've asked him to reconsider some thigs and then you hear so-and-so did reassure you in private that he would possibly back off the muslim

began and then he goes right along with it. he even accused is president of treason. >> i have heard about it. i'm a little busy, so i don't read everything he says every day. one thing i know for certain, is that hillary clinton is going to continue taking the country in the wrong generation, she's going to mak a choice for the supreme court which is a bad one. we have more common ground than not. there are things he's said they don't agree wit there are policies he's pursuing that i don't agree with. we will litigate those things in the future. >> you do have a point there where if he run this is way and loses, he stains the republican party? suddenly not only do you lose the white house, but you've got to explain your support for him and a lot of other people have to explain why the party went to him and it was a disaster. >> who went to him?

he won the election. the voters picked him. he beat ted cruz and marco rubio and jeb bush and everybody else in ohio and wisconsin and all the rest of the country and -- he w the election, the voters voted for him.m. that's the point, he won the delegates. that's a choice they made. this isn't a top down party where aanful of peop pick our nomineen the president. the voters pi him, that's the choicehey made. what can i control? that's not something i can control. as speaker othe house, what i can ctrol is, can i help add substance to this conversation? can i bring ideas to the table? can i lead the house republicans to take our contest principles and apply them to the problems of the day to give people solutions that improve their lives and try and inject some substance into this

conversation. here's what i worry about. i don't worry about what donald trump says and does, i worry about what i can do to make this a better country, to improve things, to make this campaign more about substance and ideas. we're tryinto add some substance to this conversation so that people know where we're trying to go to get this country fixed. >> when you said you had a duty as speaker of the house, are you implyinthat congressman paul ryan, ways and means paul ryan-- >> i am the speaker of the use, that's my sponse. m not going to go into the hypotheticals. i'm not going to try to disunify our party and override the

republican voters of america, can we add ideas, can we bring substance to this conversation? what i want to do is give the country a clear choice. >> you think you're going to get that election? >> i think we here in the house can offer principles and solutions, and that's what we can control and that's what we're going to continue to doing. >> you do have a role at the convention as convention chairman. you had doubts about whether to support trump, you took a month to make that decision, shouldn't delegates if they're having second thoughts about it, have an opportunity to express second thoughts about it and let the wi of the convention decide? >> cause of this role i have which i feel has very important responsibilities is to call balls and strikes and just to play it by the rule. so it is noty job to tell

delegates what to do or what not to do. they have their roles, they make their decisions. i seey role now given that he's got the plurality, but the last thing i'm going to do is weigh in and tell delegates what to do. >> so if they decide to change the rules, which they can two, you're comfortable with howeve -- >> you're asking the wrong person, you should ask the party, you should ask the delegates. >> but ifou have an opinion -- >> my opinion is not relevant here, i'm not going to tell the delegates hohey should do their jobs because i am chair of theconvention. >>there's a ton of prominent republican who is say they're not going to do it. the governors of marland and massachusetts, do you think it is that members in the house republican conference, follow your conscience, if you don't want to suppor him, don't do

it? >> the last thing i would do is tell somebody to doconscience. this is a very unique nominee. but i feel institutionally as speaker of the house to create a chasm in the republican party. i'm not going to tell somebody to go againt their conscience, what i think i can control is to help unify us around ideas, around principles and to give the country a better agenda, a tter y, soutions, that's what's in my corol. and all these things that you're asking me about are things o of my control that i c't spend my time wrying about. >> what can he do to make you more comfortable supporting donald trump. >> i have said this a lot, run a campaign that we can all be proud of, run a -- i i believe

that if we want t be successful and i don't like identity litics, let theeft play identity politics, that's their currency. as conservatives, according to our principles, we believe in unifying people, we believe in aspiration, we believe in making a better path forward. that's the kind of optimistic, inclusive, tone, tempo type of campaign. >> what about donald trump? >> you're going to have to ask him. >> do you think he can do that? >> he can, it's whether he chses to two so or not. >> can the speaker of the house tell t republican party that they he a hall pss to -- donaltrump was eager to respond. my colleague hallie jacksn caught up with donald trump just

before his rally in las vegas. >> what we can do as a party is unify. i want to see speaker ryan focusing on the budget, we need to get the budget down to wre it should be. otherwise i have no view on it. >> reporter: does it bother you that the head of the republican party is -- >> you see the crowds i'm getting, you saw last night in houston, you see today in nevada, i think we're going to do very, very well. >> you told me recently that your campaign really hasn't started yet. >> we start pretty much after the convention. >> reporter: why wait >> i have raised a lot of money for the party, we're doing very well. millions of dollars just this week. she's selling herself to wall street and the wall street fat cats are putting up a lot of money former. i don't want that kind of money. i don't need that money, frankly, this is like a

commercial, but it's tougher than a normal commercial. look, we're going to raise a lot of money, i have raised a lot of money this weekend, i'm raising it for the republican party. if you look at ryan, he'll say we have done an amazing job in a very short period of time. we're going to have a great convention, and we're going to go on to a great cam pain. i think i'm a different kind of candidate, paul ryan said that, i'm a different kind of a candidate. i think i can win either way. >> reporter: with them or without them? >> i think i can, because i obviously won the primaries. i'm an outsider and i won the primaies. i do believe w can win either way, butt would be nice if we stuck together. >> reporter: u tk about republicans, your critics say within your own party, your campaign is not organized well enough, it doesn't have the money and it doesn't have the infrastructure in the battle ground states, what are you

doing to reassure people in your own party that you can windy? >> if my campaign were short of money, i would just put up my own money. >> reporter: how much? >> i would put up what i need to win. i wouldn't be that generous with it you. people have to put up money, people have to endorse and people have to come through. the one thing we're not doing, i have had so many endorsements, darrell issa called me yesterday. >> reporter: do you think the convention is going to try to overthrow? >> numr one they can't do it legally. i worked for one year and we won allf those delegates, almost 1,600, 1,500o 1,600. reembe they said the most we would get is 1,2, we would be ort of the magic number and i got t 1,600. i competed along with a lot of

establishment people, i bea them all and now a coup of them would like to come in throughhe backdoor it's awfully hard when i win, what did i win? 37 or 38 states, i win 38 states and somebody else won none and they're going to be the nominee? i don't think so. coming up, could this dump trump movement actually succeed? and orlando and the renewed debate over guns in america. we're going to hear more from paul ryan on this issue. and we'll hear from loretta and we'll hear from loretta lynch about what the

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come on fellas let's go! easy to use chase technology for whatever you're trying to master. welcome back. our panel is here. katy tur of nbc news who covers the trump campaign with us. as well as bloomberg politics. welcome to all of you. mark halperin, i'll start with you, how real is the dump trump movemeninside the republican party? >> it's less likely to happen than to happen. but it's real, because you've got now an attitude within the republican party, at the highest levels that this would be better for the party, one top strategist said thatthere's a meteorite headed towards planet earth, they'll what they have to do. the key for them is to not let this be somethng seen as led by

mitch mcconnell and maul ryan. their hope is that that catches on and there willing to -- >> it looks organic and that it's grass roots and that the delegates can trump is voters. if the delegates decide to do this they can. there's a real chance if trump continues to be down in the polls, continues to hurt senate candidates and house candidates, continues to not build infrastructure, there's a real chance they'll try to do it. >> what's interesting to me is the chairman of the party appointed to run the rules committee. one is enid nicholson. she is a ted cruz delegate, a long-time member of the utah republican party. and utah not a big fan of donald trump. then the co-chair is ron kaufman, he's a trump delegate. he's a bush guy. so i look at those two and i

think, oh, maybe they are preparing for something. >> i don't know after watching that interview with paul ryan how you can believe that they can make this seem organic. if you wanto lead a movement, you got to have leaders of that movement, i don't think we have leaders in this congress. i don't think they want to not answer. from the grass roots, people are going to reach up and do what the leadership wants has never proven to be true. the republican party is acting like the dremocratic party acts. donald trump has a point, how do you go to cleveland and say, the primaries didn't matter and find somebody el. that's e big flaw in this whole idea. >> this remis me o the -- and my dad had this, the big comb over. >> where are you going with this? >> the person with the comb overthinks you think it looks natural, and it really is that

way. but when you're looking at the person, you say that's a big comb over. this is organic and it comes from the bottom up, it's a big comb over. we can see it, everybody's goings to see it, and you can say what you wish, if it's coming from all these organized groups, it's a comb over. >> wow. katy, you know trump as well as anybody at this table, in a weird way he would relish a fight like this, would. he? >> he's -- for him to embrace the party is not necessarily on message for how he's going about this campaign. he clearly feels uncomfortable with it. that's why you' ee're seeing soh stress and he's having aard time sayg please give me money, because it's ante to his outsider message. it looks like he's sputtering. he's a candidate that once had

control of his ideas and his message. and now he's backtracking, and have talked to a number of republans who have decided he's not doing support him. the judge curios comments seem to be hurting him greatly among a certain contingent of his supporters. >> you mentioned his lack of control of this campaign. i want to put up some quick money numbers here, in the tv advertising disparity. people want to say this is only june, this isn't only june, this is a big momen you throw in clinton with her $23 million. nobody is up with trump stanley cu except for one superpac. look at the dparity that everybody had over romney. and the gap was about $8 million and everybody was like oh, my

god we can't have that again. >> one of the problems here is that it's harder to run against hillary clinton as back obam than it does f hillary clinton to run against hillary clinton. as katy was talk about, he's not really good at asking for none. the guy who introduced him trashed him on nafta, and trashed him on immigration and this is a trump supporter. they still wrote the check, but they're not going to stick around. >> he's able to raise money more quickly. >>there's a disparity on gund foces. clinton last month had 700 people in brooklyn. it's grown since then. trump is unconventional. trump has proven he can do things in a different way. but that's part of what's undermined the confidence. >> there's a brand-new clinton superpac ad against trump and

this is what he's dealing with dung the next four weeks. >> i love war in a certain way, including with nukes, yes, including with nukes. >> i wt to be unpredictable. i'm not going to tell you right now what i'm going to do. >> i know about isis than the generals do, believe me. >> priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> again, unresponded to, at least through the fourth of july and maybe longer. >> on the other hand this is stuff that the american people have heard about him over and over again and he's won consistently over and over again saying that and a whole lot worse. over and over again he says things that everybody else says this is unacceptable. and yet he continues to say em. >> that's why i find this talk that he's going to implode in this general election, a little bit scary, because ultimately, in august, september, october november, december, january, february, people were saying

donald trump couldn't possibly win the nomination. so i think it's not a good idea to make these bold predictions. >> it's pretty simple, he needs to d something different to coin republcans, grass roots and elites that he's -- mpaign on a different message. he needs a different ajectory, thn he can come back. but he needs something different. >> his argument is no. >> it's a new jury, we shall see. quick note, tomorrow we're debuting the first in a three part digital series, it's a feature about the rise inonald trump for the first part, the united states of trump is whatarewe're calling it. they crunch eed data behind tru supporters and why they le him and it isn't just about building

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and we are back. it's "data download" me. one thing donald trump hadn't counted on was the enthusiasm among primary voters would carry over into the general election. we now be seeing a reverse effect. annthusiasm gap that favors democrats. bad news for trump, but it could mean trouble for republicans up and down the ballot. an nbc news "washington post" poll shows that 65% of republicans view donald trump unfavorable. hillary clinton's numbers aren't

great among democrats, 75%/25%. 1/4 of democrats, but it's better than trump. t a bloomberg politics poll shows that 28% o republicans have an unfavorable view of their own party right now. on the other side of the aisle only 4% of democrats feel the same way about their party. w is this significant? because republicans may b less enthusiastic about voting in the fall ad that enthusiasm gap doesn't just hurt trump, it could end up hurting republicans up and down the ballot. a marquette university poll showed 78% of republicans will definitely vote in november, tt's a 9% drop since marh. party leaers do have reason to worry that their voters might just stay he. and i that happens, a 2-3 point

republican advantage could quickly become a 2-3 pnt loss on election in that senate rig. and while the house majority seems insurmountable right now. those happen when one party simply doesn't show up to the polls. that's what republicans have to fear. when we come back, the renewed debate about guns. loretta lynch talk

welcomeback. bigotry, rrorism, guns, these are some of the same topics we were addressing on this very show last year at this exact same time. because of the tragic shooting in charleston, sth carolina last year. now we're having the conversation again in the wake of the orlando massacre, where 49 people were killed. at issue was the access to gun the killer who had previously been interviewed by the fbi and had been on the terrorist watch list in theast used a semi-automatic assault rifle that he bought st days before the massacre and it's ao rebooted the conversation in washington about those who are o that watch list should be able to legally purchase a gun. en i talked paul ryan on thursda he seemed open to new legislation. >> the question right now i if mee is on a terror watch list, are the authorities notified as to whether a person

on that list is trying to purchase a gun or not? that is a procedure right w, so the question is, can we make sure that that procedureorks the way it's supposed to work. point number two, you don't want to deny a person their right to due process. so we have to concern ourselves with cnstitution and rights. and we don't wanto deny a person's due process rights. that's appointme point nuer two is, we can't just be very clumsy and rush to judgment and do sething tt actually harms or ability to do terrist investses, we're going to take a deep breath and making sure this is done correctly in terms of making suret authorities know and have time to respond if someo is on a terrorist watch list at theye trying to buy a gun, we have to get that right. >> attorney general loretta

lynch supports w s one of those measures. madam secretary general,elcome to "methe press." let's go to the actually investigation in orlando right now and get any update this is morning. first let me talk about the shooter's wie. are charges going to be brought against her? is she simply helpingn this investigation or is she going to have charges brought against her? >> where we are in this inveigion is talking to everybody who had contact with this kill. and that of course includes his familymembers, we're not making any announcements about additional arges, we are focused on leaning as much as we can about the killer's motivations, about his actions and thoughts in the days and months leading up to this attack. >> is she cooperating? >> we're talking to a number of people that includes family members, that includes people who knew him, people who knew of this individual, we're asking them to come forward.

she's in that gamut but we're not making any announcements. >> are you going to be announcing any new parts of the investigation? i'll be going to orlando on tuesday to continue my briefings in the case. actually what we're announcing tomorrow is that the fbi is releasing a partial transcript of the conversation between the negotiators. that will be coming out tomorrow and i'll be headed to orlando on tusday. >> including the hostage negotiation part of this? >> yes, it will be primarily a partial transcript of its calls with the hostage negotiators. >> you say parable, what's being left out? >> what we're not going to do is further this man's propaganda.

>> we're not going to hear him make his assertions of allegiance and that. it will begin to capture the back and forth between him and the negotiats, we're trying to get as much information got this investigation out as possible. as you know, because the killer is dead, we have a built more leeway there and we will be producing that information tomorrow. >> let's talk about the fbi angle to this, obviously they investigated him, interviewed him three times before this took place and then found he was not -- they didn't think he was a serious potential terrorist threat. i know director comey said they're going to go back and see what may have been missed. but is it bigger than what the fbi may have missed? is the fbi just not able to do a behavioral study? like the fbi's job is to collect facts and make connections, but is a behavioral study harder to do? >> that's why we do the

investigations in the way that we do. that's why when we get information about individuals like mateen, several years ago from co-workers that we open investigations and we in fact take the time and inrview individuals like that. and i can assure you, had the informion developed of his plans, that investigation would ha stad open. >> let's go to the gun issue threyou support -- the justice department came out and endorsed senator feinstein's version of this that would make it so that anybody on these terror watch lists couldn't buy a gun and there wouldn't be any loophole, wouldn't be a small waiting period, it would be a pretty long waiting period. but director comey is a little concerned about this legislation, here's what he said about it a year ago. >> it hasn't been adjudicated in every case that someone is a terrorist that we're investigating. so we don't want to obviously blow our investigation. >> this is the concern of speaker ryan on this, he seems to be open to at least looking

at the legislation. is this a concern of yours? >> we're extremely grateful that in crafting this legislation, congress took into account those concerns that the director expressed morehan a year ago. obviously we want to be able to have the tools we need to stop individuals from obtaining guns who should not have them. but we also need to have a process, consistent with the law, to protect ongoing investigations and protect sensitive matters. and this amendment does give the department of justice both of those tools. >> let me ask you quickly on the e-mail investigation with hillary clinton. ultimately when the fbi concludes their investigation, it will be up to you perhaps to decide wther this goes forward with the prosecution or not. there's going to be a lot of skepticism that this decision falls on you a political appointee. have you thought got finding a special counsel or somebody else to handle this to make it as clean as you possibly can?

>> career prosecutors and agents, clear from politics, they follow the facts, they follow the law and they'll come to a conclusion and we'll follow the facts and the law as we do in every case. >> so this is not up to you, this decision? >> we don't talk about how we're going to deal with the internal workers of the justice department. but this will be handled like any other matter? >> so there's no any concern in your mind that you need to excuse yourself from this? >>. and when we come back, we're going to dive into the gun debate, the political side of it with our panel. but as we go t break, a look here at one of the many memorial services this week, too many of them, frankly, of the people killed in orlando last week. >> loving, caring,

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♪ those are just some of the beautiful makeshift memorials in orlando, on week after the attack. we're back with the panel. well, is the gun debate changed this week or not gwen?

>> a year ago, charleston, we is since seen san bernardino. not long ago we saw wtown, we have seen this over and over again, aurora, schools, bars, it doesn't matter, nothing has actually changed. the conversation this week is about terror watch lists and no fly and not being able to buy a gun if you're on the no-y list. that doesn't mean tt will change something like this and the conversations about gun show loopholes, something whh the nra has never budged even half an inch. donald trumsays he's going to meet with the nra, i hasn't happened yet. >> in this case it would have made a difference. if you'ren a terrorist list, a no-fly list, you couldn't have bought the weapons he bought. >> when was he flying, ever? >> do you do nothing or do you do something and hope that that

something makes a difference? if it's going to be, we're only going to do things that encome bass everything or we don't do anything, then i agree with you, if you have someonthat is being investigationed and can be prohibited from going to a place and two days later buying a weapon. >> but he wasn't on any of tse lists. >> if you go three yrs deep in that list or someing. it does seem as if democrats, you kno republicans, when they have used terrorism they have goten legislation passed, using the fear of terrorism as a way to get some controversial legislaon passed and democrats decid for the first time to merge terrorism and guns together and run with it. and it did change the rhetoric of the repubcans. >> and thelgbt community which is now lokin at gun control. if this is going to happen, it's because the democrats are -- the

nra still dominates the house, you saw the interview with paul ryan. the house is going to budges. i can't imagine legislation passing this year. if hillary clinton wins wh coat tails and brings in a clear mai te. >> you just brought up the gay community and guns, an interesting storybout the next movement amongay political activists may b guns. >> what i found fascinati is that there was anotherall in the "washington post" talking about the same thing, talking about one-third of americans talking about knowing someone who was a victim of gun violence. if there are more folks who know someone who has been a victim of this, suddenly is legislati could change,n more of a rapid way than the fight for equality

among gays and lesbians. >> it would require a complete change of focus. it's always been a civil rights activism on the part of the lgbt community. i'm not sure that guns qualify in this case. obviously there's grief and there's anger. but i'm not certain. >> let's talk about something that was brought up in the loretta lynch conversation. if the conversation is guns and terrorism, she says there's going to be a partial transcript. and it's one of those things that are thinking -- she doesn't want to reveal how much he talked about other groups. that's going to bother some who think, no, no, no, we need to hear everything. >> i think republicans are going to say we need to hear everything because we need to hear how much this guy was radicalized. >> what's wrong with hear everything? >> we should know -- t seems to be a terrorism fear and a gun fear. we seem to not think we can have both conversations.

>> and a hate crime issue. >> the republicans believe it's a terror issue and the democrats think it's a gun control issue. >> you can do both, you can talk about both things. >> the pressure because some think it's a manipulation, that the administration doesn't want the pubc to know how much perhaps, or tre will be this oh, my god, y should see what he really said about isis. obviofbi director comey, i he okay in this? >> i suspect people know that the fbi -- they made the ce that they have been wkinging very hard over the years in watching him. but that's the prolemith terrorism, it's not always predictal. youan't tell who the next lone wolf is going to be. >> the secret service is better at doing behavioral profiling because they have to do it all the time when there's so much

threats to the president, jose. >> i just don't know if you're going to step in every time somebody says something estionable or stupid. >> we still have civil liberti in this country the fbi does need to have more resources and better resources. >> what more could they have done in this specifc case? >> i have to say one thing, on june 1, i talked to the president in elkhart, indiana. after we were done with our town hall, he talked to a gun owner, the guy was passionatebout how llary's going to take away our guns and the president responded toe to toe with him. he said if i was in the situation room and i still can get congress to move o this issue of not allowing people on the no-fly list from buying guns. "end game"segment, the washingtonarlor game, who might run with donald trump? and do the candidates he wants

want to run with him? we'll be right back. coming up, "meet the press" "end game" brought to

>> narrator: "meet the press" "end game" is broht to you by boing. one of the ways that trump could maybe calm the waters in the republican party is by naming a running mate, maybe

he's going to feel the pressu to do it sooner. republican from south dakota in the senate leadership, he says this, there are probably some good options for him, referring to trump. th question i are there people for whom he is a good option? bloom i supposedne of those people that trump wouldlike to ru run with. >> senator corker want -- i'm told that trump is doing a lot of what past presidential candidatesave done, he asking people's opinions, he's hear lots of different names, people like condoleezza rice that they won't do it. >> in the same way he had released a spreme court nominee list to satisfy consertives, they know it has to be a conservative that people can rally around. >> it alleviates the concernof

the republicaparty. i have sken to sources at the rnc who say they have no idea who he's going to pick. they have no idea what's going on at this point. they have circled the wagons, corker was high on that list, but corker is saying he's concerne but the list is narrowing down to a very smallroup of people. newt gingrich and scott brown. it's not the more established establishment figures that the party nonee would have wanted there'sary fallon that has been thrown into the mix. >> people have said that naming a woman would look le he's pandering. and hdoesn't want to look like a panderer. >> in this unusual electoral season, isn't it odd that there aren't lot of people willing to take the number two slot of one of the main parties? >> he must pick a conservative.

but also the people at the top of t party say he must pick someone unambiguously qualified and some of the names you mentioned would notake it. but they have to beloyal. he's not going to pick somebody who's not loyal. >> he spent a lot of time talking about the vice predency and we just love to do this. apparently he met back stage in las vegas with the headf th republican party in utah who said we have to go to plan tea, how to deal with the downballot races, and this is a guy who spoke face to face with trump. >> before auy w thought that woul be on the vice presidential list is marco rubio mr. mii,hat do you hear? >> i think he's gng to rnd i think he's going to do shortly and he's been mulling it over and i think he's come to the realization that florida is the

bla place that he could still win and he's not running, then florida may go democrat. >> high risk that he loses to bad thing trump could beat him twice. and as he's trying to game it out. at close to the t of the list of reasons not to do it, every day he' be asked about donald trump. is that the way he wants to ve his career potentially end? more likely than not he can win. and nothing mas it touer than donald trump. >> he needs a platform of some kind. and a cornerfice at a lobbying fm is not the platform. >> but republcans need -- >> if anybod can overperform trump by 4 or 5 points, it's mitch mcconnell. >> that's all we have for today,

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