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shows doing nothing is no longer a position that people can hold. they have to do something. it's unfortunate this is how it went down. it shows that, you know, the american people are outraged and wants something to be done and still congress is just not quite there. and so we have to hold them accountable in november. >> all right. colin, luke, thanks for joining us. that will wrap it up for this hour of coverage on nbc. don't go anywhere. "hardball" starts right now. lewandowski, you're fired. let's play "hardball." good evening, everyone. i'm joy reid in tonight for chris matthews. with four weeks to go until the republican convention, there's been a big shakeup in the campaign.
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the news comes as trump is slipping in the polls badly behind in fundraising and under pressure for failing to curve his habit of making controversial comments. particularly in the last several weeks. one campaign insider told nbc the move was meant to signal to republicans that trump understands things haven't been working and that changes are needed. according to nbc's katy tur lewandowski was escorted from trump tower by security. trump's son said that's just how things are done. >> there is protocols in place. i don't care if you're an intern or this. when those things happen, that's what happens. >> lewandowski has been with trump since the start of the campai campaign. trump stood by him when he was accused of physically assaulting a female reporter. >> i don't discard people. i stay with people. that's why i stay with this country and a lot of people treated unfairly and that's one of the reasons i'm the front
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runner by a lot. >> according to bloomberg, trump advisors huddled to discuss a political central gee shift as he looks to move beyond recent missteps this afternoon lewandowski said he was honored to be part of the campaign. >> i had a great conversation with mr. trump and i can tell you this, it's been a privilege for me to serve the last 19 months on this campaign, a campaign that nobody gave us credit on being successful and i have a small part of that and i can tell you i have no regrets. it's been an honor and i respect mr. trump. i respect him more so than any other person that's ever entered this race and i'll do everything possible through me and my friends and my family to ensure that donald trump is the next president of the united states. >> in a sign of just how unusual the trump campaign is, one of trump's top advisors, michael responded to the news with glee. he wrote on twitter minutes after the news broke, ding dong the witch is dead.
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late today he resigned saying he regretted sending out the tweet. meanwhile, there is new evidence how much ground trump has to make up. a monomouth poll shows he is 47-40. can he make that up? howard fineman is global editor. katy, i want you to walk us through this extraordinary day of events and how did the firing go down. >> reporter: i'm told lewandowski was blind sided with this and texting with reporters this morning unaware this would happen and i'm told the rnc was given notice before lewandowski was told. i'm told that he was alerted of news in person this morning around 9:30 a.m. and then he had a phone conversation with donald
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trump, which was described as amicable. he was escorted from the premise here at trump tower by security. donald trump telling me that is standard protocol from anybody fired from their organization or from the campaign. why did this happen, joy? we've been hearing issues with corey lewandowski for almost the entirety of the campaign certainly coming to a head in the past few months. according to sources, they say corey lewandowski did not get along can colleagues, he was trying to under cut them and block staffing and consolidate power and block information getting to donald trump that he did not agree with. when paul manafort was brought on board, he felt threatened and tried to under cut the influence and he also did not get along with people at the rnc. he was problematic with a loose
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hot temper. he wasn't necessarily clear in his messaging, often paul man fort would make a decision and corey lewandowski would go against that decision. it wasn't clear who was really in charge of the campaign. the kids were also not on his side. they have been trying to convince their dad for months that lewandowski was not right to helm the campaign, that they needed somebody with more experience to run a presidential campaign and somebody steadier and could give donald trump advice and the strategy he needed. corey lewandowski's model had been let trump be trump and it worked for him. they won the primaries and part of the reason i'm told donald trump did not let him go sooner is they were winning. no reason to fix him and it wasn't broken. now the past few weeks donald trump has been slipping in polls and being out spent $23 million to zero in battle ground states by hillary clinton and he's facing a mute within the
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republican for and i'm told e v ivonka had a big say even before he assaulted a reporter in march. today was the day they got their message through to their father and today was a day he saw it was a problem and he needed to make a change before this campaign sputtered even more. >> katy, one more quick question to you because you talked there about the trump children who have been all over the news cycle today as being unflu we think so l. at the end of the day candidates make the decisions. do you get a sense from your reporting and talking to folks in the campaign, do they think the problem was the campaign apparatus and corey lewandowski not doing a good job or believe the problem might actually be the candidate? >> well, it's mixed. there are those who say that the campaign itself was problematic and corey blocked anyone from
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getting did the's ear and advising him to back off things. i have from my previous reporting been told by multiple sources that that is not necessarily true. donors, campaign staff, aids, party sources and leaders told donald trump on numerous occasions certain rhetoric went too far, specifically to the judge comments but ultimately, you saw donald trump continue on with that. that is because donald trump is very much his own best advisor. he claims that he listens to his gut more than anything else and that's why you're seeing that. there is hope, there is hope among the party and hope among the children and hope among the campaign aids who are still left that paul manafort in charge of the campaign i'm told will be able to better have trump's eary influence on rhetoric. there is hope about this, joy, hope being the operative word. donald trump has been
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problematic with his words in the past and there is trust between many members of the republican party that he's actually going to change that i have long talked about this pivot and say they will believe it when they see it. >> yesterday to the point donald trump said it's common sense quote unquote to consider profiling muslims in america. >> i think profiling is something we're going to have to start thinking about as a country. i hate the concept of profiling but we have to start using common sense and use our heads. >> trump suggested if the people in the club last week in orlando were armed, thinks might have turned out differently. >> if some of those wonderful people had guns strapped right here, right to their waist or right to their ankle, and this son of a [ bleep ] comes out and starts shooting and one of the people in that room happened to have it and goes boom, boom you know what, that would have been
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a beautiful, beautiful sight, folks. >> so that seemed to go too far even for nra leaders wayne and chris cox. let's watch. >> donald trump suggested conceal carry in a nightclub where people are drinking. >> i don't think you should have firearms. >> nobody thinks people should go in a nightclub drinking and carries firearms. that defies common sense and the law. >> trump clarified remarks, quote, when i said if in the orlando club you had people with guns, i was talking about additional guards or employees. uh-huh. bray bender of usually was not talking about this beautiful scene he thought would unfold if the people in the club while drinking on the dance floor gone rambo and stopped the shooter, is that a corey lewandowski problem or a donald trump problem? >> well, i think that a lot of that probably is a donald trump problem, probably unfair to put that on to corey however i do think this. i think that they had to make the change today not because of corey but they have a lot of
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nervous republicans, particularly big donors looking for some type of signal that things are going to change. obviously they did a campaign change. trump had been dating two campaign mangers. not fair to blame it on corey. >> is this an attempt to put somebody into the white house who i suppose they think paul manafort will manage to keep him from doing things that disturb and terrify and trattle the country for four years. is that the idea to patch him together for four years in the office? >> well, i think at this point the people around donald trump are hoping they can keep him quiet for a day or two. they would consider that a victory. the background is advising
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manner of ego maniacs around the world. strong men in the ukraine, et cetera. the theory is paul that pixes that background with knowledge, deep knowledge of republican party mechanics can be the guy to do it but you ask the right question. if it's constantly a matter of trying to tie donald trump down, you know, like in a jonathan swift story of travels, i don't know how that's going to work. i think this is a victory internally for paul manafort and his crew. they are agagenerally older and know the republican party but what was happening here as john said, republican leaders in congress, republican donors, republican governors and senators, corporate leaders, people who have a long-term investment in the republican party were saying this guy is definitely going to wreck the entire party unless somebody
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gets a handle on him. not necessarily to win the election but just to keep the election cycle from being a hole cast for republicans. that's what the concern is. i think the inner trump circle meaning donald trump in his own mind realizing that he was heading into cleveland, which is still a month away and a month is a lifetime in politics with the real danger of a rebellion at the convention of some kind improbable as it snds if mcconnell and paul ryan wanted to pull the plug on him, they would try it. >> and just brings before we go back to the convention, john, this begs the question once again if this, the idea that the party is so destabilized by the idea of donald trump getting through november but what if he messes around and wins? will they do for four years? i don't know there is evidence paul manafort was able to change the behavior.
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is the idea he would somehow evolve from november until january of next year? >> i want to be clear on this. first of all, it would be a mistake to think republicans think donald trump cannot win. they think that he's had some bad weeks. the bigger problem quite frankly is his campaign was totally developed to win primary elections, particularly primary early elections. the problem is he has no general election place. i was at trump towers a couple weeks ago, dropped in to say hello because i know people there. it looked like a challenger race for congress, not a presidential race. that's because they were billed as a pr machine to win the nomination which worked but it's put them in a tough situation now. they have got to move quickly to change things and i think they are trying to do that. >> if he wins, paul manafort would seize his phone for four years. thank you very much. >> thank you, joy. chilling new details as the
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deadly terror attack was underway. we've got the latest on that plus challenging john mccain. the arizona senator took plenty of heat for saying president obama was directly responsible for the orlando attack. mccain walked it back but not before his senate challenger pounced. tonight, congressman is coming here to "hardball" and a tale of two clevelands. the city is ecstatic but nervousness about next month's republican convention in cleveland and the list of top republicans and corporate sponsors skipping trump's party keeps growing. finally, the "hardball" round table is here to tell me something about the presidential race i don't know. this is "hardball" the place for politics.
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attorney general could delay the purchase of guns and arrest terror suspects and close the gun show loophole and a republican version which would improve the background check system. joining me fresh off the floor of the senate barbara boxer. senator boxer, if we cannot pass gun reform in the wake of sandy hook and 26 little kids and teachers getting slaughtered and can't do anything after charleston and now we can't even get republicans to sign on board when there is a terrorism related attack, do you have any hope gun reform can ever pass the united states senate? >> i always have hope. that's why you have elections but if i'm a voter, i want to know how my senator voted. we saw today that 90% of the democrats voted two common sense reforms, joy. one basically said if the attorney general suspects you're a terrorist, you can't get a gun. then you get due process if you want to argue with it, and the other one, which is tighten the
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background checks if you bought online or at a gun show. so these two measures supported by my colleagues, 90% of them written by diane feinstein and chris murphy are supported by 75, 85, 90% of the american people. what is going on? we had san bernardino where we had also a lone wolf person inspired by isis. this situation is outrageous. and i just want to mention this to you. you know, when i came into politics, it was long before you were probably even maybe born, i'm not sure, but it was a long time ago and we had something called the vietnam war. over the ten-year period we lost 60,000 people soldiers there and this country over that ten-year period was divided and arguing and fighting. we lost 4,000 beautiful soldiers in iraq over ten years and the same thing, but we lose 300,000
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people over ten years to gun violence and it's a hummer and gotten to the point where people need to make this a voting issue. >> yeah, senator we put up a statistic at this point according to a poll, 57% of americans favor returning to an assault weapons ban to say nothing of the stats you talked about and overwhelming support for things like background checks, what do your colleagues on the other side of the isle and plain to you why they won't vote to keep somebody on a territe terriorism watch list getting high powered weapons of war. >> my own opinion is they just listen to the national rifle association and parrot those reasons. goes too far. no due process. this is bad. it has nothing to do with the issue at hand and write some little phony response of a bill that does nothing. so let's be clear what's
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happening. it's not even the nra members. they support these common sense measures. it's the board. i have to think they are owned and operated by the gun manufacturers. they just want everyone to be armed. that's their vision of what makes a great america and i have to tell you, if you look around the world, joy, i held up an incredible graphic. we are -- we don't compare to any other industrized nation how many people are killed every year. in california where we have common sense controls, we've seen gun violence go down by more than 50%. is it perfect? no. in connecticut, where they took action, gun violence went down by 40%. is it perfect? no. but we know we can't stop everything but we can stop some outrage and we're only 100 senators and tonight we had a chance to prove that we stood for something. protecting our people and we
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walked away and it -- you know, i've been here a long time and it breaks my heart because i was here when we voted in the assault weapons ban, senator feinstein's bill in the '90s and lasted for ten years and expired. >> indeed. thank you. we appreciate your continuing advocacy. today the fbi released a chance skrit of phone calls between the man that committed the deadliest mass shooting and a 911 dispatcher and police negotiators. the man paused from the killing spree to call 911, identify himself to police dispatchers and confess to the crime. in calls to a crisis negotiation team, mateen identifies himself as an islamic soldier and said america should stop bombing syria and iraq and that is quote why he is out here now. the gunman falsely warned there
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were explosives in a car outside the night club. joining me is pete williams. number one, why do you suppose there was a lengthy amount of time. the thing that strikes me is the number of hours that passed between the initiation of the first 911 calls and resolution. is there anything in this transcript that lets you know why it took so long? >> yeah, quite a bit. this is the most detail we've had. it's an extraordinary amount of detail this far along into an investigation because the police never have given us much on what they were doing. the 911 call was made but we learned today he talked three times to members of the orlando police department for a total of 28 minutes. they were in essence crisis negotiators. it doesn't seem to be much negotiation was going on. he said at one point he was wearing an explosive vest, quote like the ones they have in france. he also said there were explosives in his van and then later on some of the folks
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inside the club told the police that they had heard him saying that he was going to put explosive vests on four people inside the nightclub. now, there never were explosives found but that's one of the reasons police moved forslowly. we also learned some things they were doing during this time for example pulled an air conditioner unit out of the wall that allowed additional people to get out and finally we learned that as they were preparing to go in, they say no additional shots were fired, that all the shots that were fired that killed the victims were at the beginning and then the police shooting of mateen at the very end, those three hours later. >> very quickly, pete, does it say anything to you there don't seem to be over mentions of an anti gay motive in the shooting. >> that's been a poser all along. we learned today as the fbi has gone through electronic devices and looked at communication history, they never found gay dating apps on his phone and no
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sign he used websites to hook up with men although he was trying to get dates with women and they can't confirm there's no hard evidence that was ever in that nightclub before, even though people in orlando have said they saw him there, the fbi has yet to find any proof of that, credit card receipts, location l information using his cell phone for example. they are still looking into that but that whole aspect of it remains a mystery at this point. >> thank you very much. interesting. appreciate it. thank you. coming up, john mccain has represented arizona since 1982 but this fall may face the toughest challenge yet. mccain's opponent congresswoman ann kir patrick makes her case next. this is "hardball" the place for politics.
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several wildfires are burning across the region including the dog's head wildfire in new mexico 9% contained and mourners gathered at a wake for 2-year-old lane graves. the little boy was drag into a lagoon by an alligator at a walt disney world resort. back to "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." john mccain is in a tough fight, mccain and democratic and 42% each. that's according to rocky mountain poll in april. last thursday senator mccain accused obama of being directly responsible for the terrorism attack in orlando. >> barack obama is directly responsible for it because when he pulled everybody out of iraq,
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al qaeda went to syria and became isis and isis is what it is today. thanks to barack obama's failures, utter failures by pulling everybody out of iraq thinking that conflicts end just because you leave. the responsibility for it lies with president barack obama and his failed policies. >> [ indiscernible question ] >> directly responsible because he pulled everybody out of iraq and i predicted at the time that isis would go uncheck ed and there would be attacks on united states of america. it's on record. h he's directly responsible. responsible referring to fundraising bonanza. congresswoman kirkpatrick, thank
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you for being here. tell me how that comment by mccain, which sort of reflects stay in iraq forever war stance, how is that playing with your constit constituents. >> like most americans, i was shocked he said that and i think most people are shocked. you were probably shocked when you heard him say that. look, these terrible tragic mass shootings have to stop. we have to do something. and you just reported that there were bills on the floor of the senate today they couldn't pass and look, people want common sense solutions. i'll tell you, i was born and raised on the apache nation in arizona. i grew up with guns. my dad taught me to hunt. like most gun owners, we have to do something to stop these mass shootings. >> john mccain had a tough reelect six years ago he managed to get through it and been durable, around since 1928. despite the tightness in the poll, what is your strategy to
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defeat him in november? >> arizonians want new leader ship because they want someone who will put our state first over partisan politics and that's something that john mccain seems to have forgotten in his 33 years here in washington and the voters are mad. so i'm all over the state of arizona. i'm listening to their concerns. they would like common sense gun legislation passed by congress. >> now in addition to the gun issue, i want to talk about hispanic voters in your state with a large and growing hispanic population. john mccain expressed a lot of anxiety about the judge that he could have a problem there but john mccain right now look at the poll there in the last polling back in april he was leading you among hispanic voters 50-37. what do you think that's about? >> i was just down at the border and i do a lot of latino round tables with the business people and look, here is what they tell
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me. they said look, trump's personal to us. we do billions of dollars in trade with mexico. a wall at the border is bad for business. but deporting 12 million people, that's personal to them. >> and donald trump -- john mccain does have a primary opponent that's a trump supporter very much for building a wall. do you expect john mccain to go further to the right and do you think that would help you? >> i don't know what to expect from him. i'm focused on my race. focused on putting arizona first. learning and listening about arizonians concerns and look, one of the other big issues is the fact that he not only supports trump but thinks trump should fill the supreme court vacancy. he came out right away and said no, no, no, don't fill. we won't do our job in the senate and fill that seat until trump becomes president and that's wildly unpopular in
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welcome back to "hardball." sanders cast the first vote in five months and voted for two of the democratic amendments supporting gun control that ultimately failed. accompanying him secret service agents that have not left his side since february which according to the washington post is costing nearly $40,000 a day. when asked if he would dismiss the detail before the convention, he didn't respond.
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hillary clinton was declared the presumptive nominee nearly three weeks ago, senator sanders refuses to bow out but at what cost? aids say sanders is focused on trying to parlay his power into concrete changes to the party's platform and fired off a letter to the campaigns objecting. superdelegates. chairman of the cbc wrote the democratic party benefits from the system. rules that allow members of the house and senate would be seeded as a delegate without competing and joined by sanders supporter from turner and senior political director. the secret service story first, nina turner, do you, what do you say to those criticizing the
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senator for keeping detail? >> i mean, it's a trojan horse i think, joy. i mean, he's keeping to his word. he said let everybody vote and then that he's going all the way to the convention and that's exactly what he's doing. we know the details are given to a press desh candidate to protect safety and i question who is making a big deal of this. >> yeah, it's not the secret service wouldn't be there and being paid anyway. they are costing many millions of dollars. let's talk more about what the more important question is which is whether or not bernie sanders still has leverage going into the convention. i talked to a lot of people said the point of maximum leverage was before california when it wasn't clear who would win the state and leverage diminished significantly since then. what do you think of that. >> the leverage was higher maybe earlier in the primary process and to be fair, he's moved hillary clinton certain ways.
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she's been more posed than before he ran. she moved to have a $15 minimum wage instead of $12 minimum wage. he exercised a lot of leverage and now we're getting to the point where i think he'll be pushed more to endorse her and i'm not sure how much more this party platform fight he can move her. she's won the nomination. >> to that point, on superdelegates it really came out swinging against the idea of superdelegates and butterfield saying it would disenfranchise the leaders by making them have to essentially run for delegate against their own constituents, what do you make of that? >> the cbc represent as grown up of people, african american folk whose have been victims of a rigged system in the case for generations that they would not even want to have the conversation about whether or not our party should look. they don't want to entertain
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that as a possibility but it is a very real concern and i know they pointed out a concern by a few but i wouldn't call millions and millions of voters a few people. the bottom line is that we should be working to try to change a system to make it better and joy, you know, i had an opportunity to talk to some high level folks that actually worked on reverend jesse jackson's campaign in the '80s and people may not remember but the reverend had a property with superdelegates and concerns about the superdelegates. we should at least have the conversation but the way the letter was written is the cbc closed off whatsoever and i don't think that's fair. >> and you know, very quickly over to you on this question of what sanders might negotiate, does he risk negotiating too much on process and not about substantive platform high teait >> i think he does. he might have a stronger case
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for it. i was surprised by the letter because superdelegates are more white and more male as a group than the democratic e let electret. people in the democratic party want the democratic voters to vote for the primary in part because they are worried about getting a donald trump or a bernie sanders leader who the party on all issues if you don't have the primaries that are more closed. that issue he's probably not going to win. the superdelegates issue will be discussed. >> do you plan to endorse senator hillary clinton and what would it take to get your endorsement of her? >> joy, i'm going all the way. i mean, this is not just about rhetoric. i want to see real action. i'm going all the way with senator sanders to the convention unless i want you to ask me that question after the convention. >> i definitely will. thank you. coming up, the city of cleveland are celebrating the big win by the cavs. the round table is coming here
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tech giant apple decided not to sponsor the week-long event. alongside iconic brands like coca-cola and ford. convention panlanners are considering non-political speakers or using trump on every night of the convention. i'm joined by the round table as a reporter with the new york times and evan is a republican strategist and former campaign age and a reporter for real clear politics. i'll throw this to the panel and throw to this you. the republican forty is losing sponsors. there is a prospect of a convention without the typical signage of a convention. what is the party planning to do about that? >> good question. they are talking about party unity. the convention is a platform for that but this is very much going to be a donald trump show as we know so far. the nominee always runs but they are usually in sync with the
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party apparatus and operation. donald trump is not. so there are lots of question marks to left as to how this is actually going to go. >> does it matter that you doesn't have the previous president of the united states, his dad, the previous president of the united states, the governorflorida, jeb bush that you don't have the sort of seminal families of the republican world? george w. bush wasn't at romney's convention either. in the end does it substantively matter? >> we don't have the marquee names, we don't have the mid level names. we have the jv squad of the jv squad coming out to speak to republican delegate realize are who really wants to be there? donald trump himself is very toxic. if i'm a sitting member of congress or the senate, why do i even want to be associated with him? he's polling so terribly among every key demographic any candidate needs to win an election. >> that's an important point. you saw at the last convention, romney 2012, this effort to highlight the diversity in the republican party. the south carolina governor
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nikki haley, tim scott, made a lot of their change, to the point it was almost comical, the way they're corralling the people of color on the convention color. if you have a candidate whose main selling point is he's hurting party so much with hispan hispanics, women, how does the party put that together? do those politicians even show up? >> some of the people you mentioned, including governor nikki haley, she's saying, i'm not going to be there. i think it's going to be hard for them to put together this all-star -- he's talked about this idea that it's going to be the jv team. the interesting thing when i talk to voters, they don't care about these kind of establishment figures. obviously we're talking about the convention. you want to put on a big show. part of it is the convention's going to be a reflection of donald trump. if he wants to pull out his reality star people, if we're going to see mike tyson come out and say, here's the celebrity that really is backing me, here are the people that are really -- that really matter, and here's the people that matter to the american people. this is going to be really interesting.
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i think also to point out, if you're going to have donald trump speaking every single night, we know from covering donald trump that that could really kind of open him up to a lot of issues. so if he says one thing monday night that could be controversial, is that going to dominate the media coverage of the convention for the entire time? so i think the other thing republicans are thinking about is, let's fill these spots because the last thing we want to do is have donald trump say something really tox and i can then we have to talk about that the next four days. >> i think one of the points you mentioned that's important, this has been a revolt from the bottom up in the republican party. it hasn't been about the elites. elites are the ones trying to come up with the never trump plan for the convention. if you have a convention with gary busey, mike tyson, a couple celebrities who like donald trump, doesn't that kind of solidify him with the people who like him in the first place? >> sure. i think this has been a big part of his appeal, that he's just basically not dealing with the establishment, not going the route of traditional candidates, traditional nominees. that's certainly appealing to his base. but it's also -- there's going to be some missed opportunities
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then in terms of the convention. it as time to really showcase and get voters excited. this is traditionally a time that they're starting to tune in. this is obviously a different cycle. but if trump speaks every night, he does manage to make news, as you said. and that will keep people coming back. so that's certainly what he has in mind in terms of the ratings. >> one of the other issues is sort of what the other thing these conventions are for, the clinton campaign and its allies have spent $23 million on television advertising. the trump team has yet to spend a dollar. the goal of the clinton camp is to define trump as being unfit for office before he can respond. here's the latest from the super pac priorities usa which backs clinton. >> who are you consulting with consistently so that you're ready on day one? >> i'm speaking with myself, number one. here's the trump theory on war. i'm really good at war. i love war in a certain way. including with nukes, yes. including with nukes. i want to be unpredictable. i'm not going to tell you right
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now what i'm going to do. i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. >> evan, this points out the problem that the convention is not just a party for trump's core supporters, it's also a commercial, it's a way to introduce him nationally to the country. if it's just sort of the "b" team and a few celebrities and hillary clinton is doing that, then how much of a hole does that put the republican party in? >> the convention is an opportunity for the republican party to highlight our agenda where we can provide economic and educational opportunity for americans. we can't do that when we're just talking about donald trump and whether or not he said something completely crazy or what his policies that don't even fit in the conservative platform are. and what you can also see based upon him not going up in the air with ads is a real problem that his campaign is having in that he doesn't have the money. on saturday his campaign sent out an e-mail to all supporters asking for an emergency fund-raising deadline of $100,000. in the modern day, what presidential candidate has ever begged for $100,000?
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like they're being held hostage because they want new jobs, they're kind of avoiding people asking them for new jobs, telling them they want new jobs, because they want to seem loyal. that's really an issue, people aren't talking about, they're talking about the party unity issue. there are also people who are like, i need a job tomorrow, when this is going to happen? >> what do i not know? >> there are pro-gay and pro-marriage equality republican groups that are taking donald trump's words last week about how he'd be great for the gay community and begging him to put his money where his mouth is and change the campaign -- change the republican party's platform in cleveland re marriage equality. >> that's if they can get it together and have a normal convention. >> donald trump is meeting with hundreds of evangelical leaders tomorrow in new york. this is a big deal, a lot of these people while we see in the polls and primaries, evangelicals were supportive of donald trump, they're not so sure he's their candidate. i talked to one person who said they're really looking to see what his responses are, especially on supreme court issues and the like. and are not sure if they're going to support him. >> the last time he met with a
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group of black evangelicals they came out, he was asking for endorsement, is there any chance of that? >> there's not, not yet. but could be. we'll see. >> all right. thank you very much. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in." >> it would be so easy for me to terminate this man. >> donald trump's campaign manager fired and escorted out of trump tower. >> listen, there's protocols that are in place. >> as his polls continue to slip, the latest on the "bedlam" in the trump campaign. then how team clinton is smashing the trump campaign in ad spending. as fellow democrats keep pounding on the stump. >> every day it becomes clearer that he is a thin-skinned, racist bully. plus, senator corey booker on tonight's big gun safety vote. and the united states of trump. >> he has
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