apace. congressman steve israel from new york, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. that will do it for this hour. i'm steve kornacki. "mtp daily" starts right now. good evening. welcome to a special edition of "mtp daily." we're out west. i'm coming to you live tonight from seattle, washington. the other washington, as they like to call it out here. we are going to begin with some breaking news in the east coast version of washington. the congressional debate over gun laws took an unexpected turn today when house democrats began a sit-in on the house floor. it is now in its sixth hour. here's how it first unfolded earlier today. >> the chair finds that the house is currently not in a state of order due to the presence of members in the well who are not recognized.

the chair would ask members to please leave the well so the house may proceed with business and decorum. to clause 12a of rule 1, the house stands in recess subject to the call of the chair. >> well, you could hear the chants, that's for sure. the floor erupted with chants of no bill, no break. as the session was officially gavelled out and house cameras got shut off. civil rights icon congressman john lewis is technically leading this protest and is demanding action. >> give us a vote. let us vote. we came here to do our job. >> a moment of silence, we want a moment of truth. we want a time of action to follow it. >> provide us with the simple dignity that every american is calling for, a vote.

>> right now, democrats from the house and now the senate are still occupying the house floor. we will continue to follow these developments throughout the hour and in a few minutes, we will talk to house minority whip, democrat steny hoiyehoyer. this is unprecedented. we will get into that in a few minutes. but we will start with the presidential campaign. call it a trump-sized effort to turn the page on what has been a dismal couple of weeks. today, trump took the stage for the first time since firing his campaign manager. the campaign wants to show it is headed in a new direction. today, trump tried to put the focus back off of him and on to his opponent, hillary clinton. with a scathing assault, one that he has been previewing for weeks. this address wasn't just about clinton or changing washington. this was a speech that seemed designed to repair as much of the self-inflicted damage and disunity and souring relationships that had been

plaguing his campaign. first up, trump dished out plenty of anti-clinton red meat, all for the base. >> she's a world class liar. if she ever became president, god help us. she lacks the temperament and the judgment and the competence to lead our country. she should not be president under any circumstances. no secretary of state has been more wrong more often and in more places than hillary clinton. hillary clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the united states. >> then he returned to the kind of populist economic message that helped fuel his rise with working class voters. >> hillary clinton supported bill clinton's disastrous and totally disastrous nafta. hillary clinton has also been

the biggest promoter of the trans-pacific partnership. her campaign slogan is "i'm with her." you know what my response is to that? i'm with you, the american people. >> then he also appeared to extend the olive branch to those skittish republicans on capitol hill, including speaker paul ryan, with a wish list of conservative agenda items. >> first hundred days, i will appoint judges who will uphold the constitution. we will lift restrictions on energy production. we will repeal and replace job-killing obamacare. it is a total disaster. lower taxes for everyone. we will build the greatest infrastructure on the planet earth. >> trump also dished out a heavy dose of some shock and awe that

kept fact checkers a bit busy. he suggested that clinton should be in jail. he says our enemies have a clinton blackmail file from hacking her e-mail account. he says clinton left her friend ambassador chris stevens to die in benghazi. anhe called her a thief for conflicts of interest at the state department and the clinton foundation. the clinton campaign fired back, saying quote, the only thing donald trump offered today was more hypocritical lies and nutty conspiracy theories. this is more distraction from a candidate that cannot answer or dispute any of yesterday's criticism of his business record. this afternoon during a rally in north carolina, clinton directly responded to the attacks trump made today, and comments he made yesterday that questioned her christian faith. >> think about it. he's going after me personally because he has no answers on the substance. that's even why he's attacking my faith. sigh.

and of course, attacking a philanthropic foundation that saves and improves lives around the world. it's no surprise he doesn't understand these things. >> well, look, as trump tries to turn the page on what's been a disastrous couple of weeks, the question is whether trump can keep the focus on his rival's record and off of his own missteps. or will this reset end up relapsing? we have to wait and see but as sports fans know, you can fire the coach, but you can't fire the owner. so the question is, what was the problem, the coach or the owner. i'm joined by barry bennett, senior advisor to the trump campaign. mr. bennett, always good to see you, sir. >> how are you, chuck? >> let me get your opinion about what we're watching on the house floor before i turn to the state of the presidential campaign. just your thoughts. >> well, we did this, as republicans, awhile back in the

mid 2000s, the drill baby drill era, where we kept it up for a couple weeks. but really, it didn't advance our cause any. it was a good media story for awhile. >> we are going to have this back and forth inside washington about it, but is this good politics, was it good politics for your base at the time when you did this? >> it was for our time. now i think if you look at the critical states in the presidential race, ohio, virginia, north carolina, florida, those are not hotbeds of anti-gun activity. i'm not sure they are helping themselves in the targeted states. >> let me move to the presidential and mr. trump's speech today. on one hand, i think a lot of republicans are relieved to see him focus on hillary clinton. on the other hand, is he the right messenger to be accusing her of lying? we had this political -- politici facted analysis here,

charged with falsehoods by nearly a four to one margin over clinton. when he accuses her of being a liar, does it fall on deaf ears? >> we have two candidates running, probably two of the best known people in the world, literally, but -- so what they say about one another is probably less important. i'm a numbers guy. i care about numbers. if you look at some of the numbers that i care about are trump plus eight on the economy, 12.7 more people on food stamps, median income families down 1.6%. those are all tough things, wrong track number of minus 45. those are all very tough things for her to talk her way out of. >> another way that he hit her is in this idea that she has used essentially public office to enrich herself in some form or another. again, a message that might resonate with a lot of voters. however, is mr. trump, who by the way, did that speech from a

trump property, is about to spend three days in coercing all the press corps to spend money to cover the opening of a trump event, is he the right messenger to hit her on enriching, using politics to enrich herself? is he not using his campaign to help his own brand? >> i love this story. if he wasn't paying back the hotel, then it would be an illegal corporate gift and of course, the clinton campaign would be the first one to file charges against him. he has to. he don't have any choice. he could choose other hotels but why would you. so enriching donald trump by renting a hotel ballroom is laughable in my book. >> right. but he is making it so that he's really not self-funding. he's paying himself back. >> he has to. he has no choice. it would be illegal not to. >> well, he could use -- he could not promote his business for six months so that people, voters didn't think that there was some sort of connection to the two. is that a concern at all? >> i think in new york when you

are trying to find a hotel ballroom on short notice, the one place you know you will get first class service is at your own place. it's not exactly easy to do. >> fair enough. what's the biggest change so far in the campaign without corey lewandowski in charge? >> e-mail. we have now seen the first four or five fund-raising e-mails. i understand it's going very well. plus i'm sure your iphone and mine were both going off during the speech. her speech yesterday and his speech today with data and talking points and attacks and counter attacks. it's nice to see that finally. >> so you're saying one person was the bottleneck on opposition research? one person was the bottleneck on e-mail fund-raising? one person was the bottleneck on oppo research? >> no, no, no. we have just been waiting for this growth spurt to occur. it's happening right now. so last week, things were very

different. this week it looks like a very real campaign. >> one final question. is donald trump still going to go to scotland? because there are a lot of republicans a little nervous that he's basically taking three days off the trail to promote and open a new business and of course, as some republicans who are already nervous about him question his dedication to this. >> i think this is something that's been on his calendar for years, literally. i think he wants to go desperately, just over and back, it's pretty fast. i expect him to go. >> as the headquarters these days, is it still trump tower or washington, d.c.? where is the heartbeat of this campaign? trump tower or washington? >> i would say trump tower. but there's plenty of furniture being moved into both places. >> all right. barry bennett, thanks for your time and your patience on the remote. appreciate it. coming up, democrats make a strong statement on the house floor to demand action on gun

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will you speak at the convention? >> you know, it's hard to say. doesn't appear that i'm going to be the nominee so i won't be determining the scope of the convention. >> that was bernie sanders today on c-span coming, inching closer to concession than he has up to this point. not a formal concession, obviously, but for the first time, sanders is publicly acknowledging he's not going to be the democratic nominee. sanders also just announced he will be giving a speech tomorrow night that the campaign is calling where we go from here.

a campaign spokesman is telling nbc news do not interpret that as the idea that this will then become a concession speech. when asked about endorsing clinton, sanders said this. quote, negotiating and negotiation goes two ways. obviously he's not ready yet. on whether he thought his supporters would accept trump's invitation to join him, take a listen. >> i suspect he ain't going to get too many of those people. you know, i think vast majority of the people who voted for me understand that donald trump any dozen different ways is literally unfit to be president of the united states. if something doesn't seem right, so everyone comes home safely. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. this just got interesting. why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat

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>> that was the scene on the house floor midday today by nbc's count, so far 20 senators and close to 60 members of congress have participated in this ongoing and dr mat i can sit-in on the floor of the u.s. house of representatives led by georgia congressman john lewis. house democrats are hoping that this spectacle will force a vote on some gun regulation bills. they say they will occupy the floor until there is some action. obviously this is a highly unusual display. the cameras that usually would show us what's going on inside the chamber are off because the republican-led house is not officially in session. when it's not in session, the cameras are off. members began instead sharing pictures in violation of house rules and then they streamed it live on periscope, also technically a violation. that's how we are watching the speeches and their no bill, no break chants right now. obviously a bold move that forces speaker ryan to find a

compromise or use his authority to clear the floor forcibly and possibly sanction members. he's chosen not to do that yet. right now republican leadership is simply waiting it out and so are democrats. we have to wonder, is this in some way a legacy of our new politics of sanders and trump, maybe this cycle or even before that, other candidates, is congress and members of congress becoming bolder now in making political statements and taking matters into their own hands because they see candidates being bolder and voters responding to that? or could this be a move out of newt gingrich's '80s playbook when the minority will do whatever it takes to get attention. very effective by newt gingrich in the '80s. he reflect orded on that time, saying quote, you have to give them confrontations. when you give them confrontations, you get attention. when you get attention, you can educate. the words of newt gingrich. despite limited camera access, house democrats sure are getting

their share of attention. so the democratic minority whip steny hoyer was on the floor today and joins me now for a tv-in of sorts. congressman, good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> so lts' staet's start with w negotiations stand between you and kevin mccarthy on getting a vote on one or all of those senate bills, the bills you would like to get a vote on on the gun issue. >> the majority leader and i had an opportunity to talk earlier today and the majority leader asked me what would it take for us to stop the demonstration on the floor, which is essentially what chris murphy did on the senate floor. they call it a filibuster there. we have a sit-in here, essentially, or teach-in or speak-in. the fact of the matter is what i told him was what we have been saying on the floor. the two bills that we are asking to be brought to the floor for a vote by the members who represent all of america are supported by 85% to 90% of

americans. one is if you are on the no fly list, you should also be on the no gun list. no fly, no buy. in addition to that, the overwhelming majority of americans of all political stripes support enhanced background checks so that we know who is buying weapons that can be so dangerous to so many people so quickly. i told the majority leader if those bills were brought to the floor, and we had an opportunity to vote on them, that this would stop. our effort is to have democracy work. when speaker ryan became the speaker, he talked about bottom up, this is frankly bottom up. secondly, he talked about an open, transparent house that would confront the issues head-on no matter how difficult they are. if he believed that, then he has an opportunity to show that by bringing these bills to the floor. >> and what did kevin mccarthy say, no, or i will take it back

on the leadership? where do we stand? >> it was not a conversation that ended with a yes or no. it was okay, i understand what you're saying and the conversation essentially ended at that point in time. >> so you're a rules guy. >> i didn't get an answer. >> you're a rules guy. you're a rules guy. you respect the history of the house. are you uncomfortable with violating the rules of the floor right now? i just wonder, it wouldn't surprise me if you were conflicted by this. >> well, first of all, let me say as you point out, immediately upon bringing the house into session, the majority which it could do recessed the house. so the house is not in session. what you're talking about, the rules are related to the floor and picture taking. you pointed out that john lewis is leading this effort. frankly, john lewis broke some rules. he broke some bad rules. i won't say that's a bad rule,

but it is a rule that in effect prevents what is going on now from being seen by the american public. knowing what their representatives are doing, knowing what they think is important, giving voice to their concerns about the gun violence in their country. so that while technically, there's a rule, i absolutely support that rule when the house is in session, but the house is not in session. so as you point out, maybe it's a technical violation but what it is is an opportunity to show the american people what is happening in the house of representatives and calling attention to the fact, that notwithstanding the overwhelming support by the american public of these two bills, the no fly, no buy rule and the enhanced oversight of who's buying a gun, the house is not acting in a democratic fashion. >> let me ask you this. are you comforted -- that may not be the right word, but are

you optimistic that you actually might get some of your demands met here, because the speaker hasn't shut off the lights, for instance. i know democrats had done that in the past when the roles were reversed in here, and he hasn't ordered the sergeant-at-arms to essentially clear the floor. does that tell you he's at least tacitly hey, you know what, let this protest play out and let's have a political conversation after the fact? does that give you any optimism that he might negotiate with you? >> it does give me some optimism. let me say in terms of the alternative of clearing the floor. it would be a great irony for john lewis, who is sitting quietly on the floor of the house of representatives, seeking justice as he did walking across the edmond pettis bridge or riding on a bus or sitting at a lunch counter. certainly i don't think paul ryan wants to eject him from the house of representatives to which he's been elected on an

issue that he feels so passionately is about the rights of the citizens to be safe so that i don't perceive that as going to happen. i certainly hope it does not happen. and i think what is being said on the floor of the house of representatives, what almost every democrat is saying is the american people want a vote, mr. speaker. we can't guarantee that we would win that vote, but the american people in the people's house, in the democratic center of our country, deserve a vote. >> why do you think republicans don't want this vote? because it does feel like this is an issue that both parties believe plays for them. i don't mean to be that cynical about it, but i think many of the democrats believe the increased regulation on guns is popular and is good for democrats and i think republicans believe standing up for gun owners is good politics for them which to me should be the recipe of getting a vote. >> it should be. you would think.

but my own view is the republicans know the same thing we do. 80% to 90% of americans support these two bills. this is about, by the way, people. they say people kill people, guns don't. this is about people. whether or not those persons are eligible to have a dangerous instrument which can be a significant danger to the american people and their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. frankly, i think the republicans are concerned that they know 80% to 90% of the people support those two bills and if they bring them to the floor, a lot of their members are going to vote against them and the american people will not be happy. i think that's the problem. >> all right. congressman steny hoyer, house democratic whip, thanks for the update. we will be checking in. still ahead, in our race of the day, we will go overseas for this one. a split decision. polling shows the brits are split on whether to break up with the eu.

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if we don't vote to leave tomorrow, we'll remain locked in the back of the car, driven in an uncertain direction, frankly to a place we don't want to go. and perhaps by a driver who doesn't speak the very best of english. >> if we want a bigger economy and more jobs, we are better if we do it together. if we want to fight climate change, we are better if we do it together. if we want to win against the terrorists and keep our country safe, we are better if we do it together. >> it's a bitterly divided race with global implications and it's our race of the day. the brexit edition. 24 hours from now, the polls will be closing in britain. voters will decide whether to remain in or leave the european union. polls on what is dubbed the so-called brexit referendum are too close to call. one online poll conducted by

opimium research, leave is ahead by one percentage points. 9% remain undecided. another poll found remain ahead by one point with 11% undecided. president obama of course has weighed in on this issue and did so during a visit in london back in april, urging the country to stay in the eu. he called the matter quote, a matter of deep interest to the united states. well, joining me now to discuss the brexit vote is senior european analyst for the eurasia group. we appreciate his joining me now. how are you, sir? >> i'm very well, thank you. >> okay. we saw those latest polls. there seems to be this idea that there is momentum with the electorate for the stay inside of the referendum. some of that i think is based on the tragic assassination of a pro-remain in member of parliament.

is that the feeling on the ground that basically, that halted the -- whatever drive there was for the leave crowd? >> i would agree with that. i think there was absolutely a tremendous amount of momentum behind the leave campaign at the back end of last week and that has essentially been halted in its tracks as a result of the cox murder. that being said, i think there are a number of further factors that certainly support our view that a vote for remain was more likely. i think first and most importantly, the british public is risk-averse and the leave campaign has been particularly poor at articulating what a vote for leave would actually mean in terms of economics, would actually mean in terms of this country's future vis a vis the european union that. has drawn a risk aversion you are seeing manifest in the polls right now. a number of polls over the

weekend have essentially given a lead and growing margin for remain. >> in ian's weekly memo he sends around, he noted that outside forces have had no impact on this, no matter, i know donald trump has basically said i would leave but it's not my business. obviously barack obama, david cameron clearly wanted him to make his entire visit to the uk earlier this year all about campaigning against the brexit. why is it that outsiders have had no influence, because normally i think the uk is a country that seems to care what the world thinks. >> i think that's right. i think this debate is essentially about david cameron versus boris johnston and about economics versus immigration. they have been the battle lines that have been defined i think for a fairly significant period of time now and our view as always, cameron was going to beat johnston and economics was going to beat immigration.

but this is a very close debate now, unless foreign leaders are speaking to those issues, i don't think they are going to resonate with the british public. so it's not simply barack obama. it's also on some level angela merkel, the european commission president, christine lagarde, a whole host of leaders that were lined up by downing street have simply not been effective at moving the debate because they haven't focused on these two core issues that the electorate is really concerned about. >> how long does david cameron remain prime minister if voters vote to leave? >> if we vote to leave i think he's gone within the week. i think there needs to be a very quick succession within the party, not only because the conservatives need to demonstrate cohesion and unity and get on with the business of running the country, but also because there's going to be a tremendous amount of pressure from the europeans, not least the germans and the french, who

are both heading into their own elections next year. you are going to want a very clear proposition of how the european union is going to work without the uk. now, the only way they get perspective to that question is if the new leader who emerges embarks on this negotiation with the rest of europe to figure out what this new relationship will look like. so i think the internal succession is going to face a tremendous amount of external pressure and for that reason, i think cameron will leave and leave quickly. >> now, is there any chance cameron leaves quickly even if voters vote to stay in? because frankly, this party is so fractured about this. we should remind people, boris johnston and david cameron are members of the same party. >> right. i totally agree that the party, the parliamentary party is evenly split on the question of brexit. the cabinet and ministers are evenly split on the question of brexit. but i do think that if it is a vote to remain, cameron is going to be safe. i would argue even if that's a

one or two percentage point victory, he will be safe. the reason is, there are going to be very well organized and senior forces within the conservative party that are going to push for cohesion and unity and i think it's important to note that two of the most important figures on the leave campaign, the speaker of the house of commons and the justice secretary, both of these ministers have been very important to retain links to cameron. i think in a post-referendum scenario where we remain, they can both expect senior positions within the government. michael gove potentially the new chancellor of the exchequer. >> is boris johnston's hope to become prime minister some day, how much is it set back if voters vote to stay?

>> if we vote to stay, i think boris has essentially, i think his ability to become prime minister will be i would say below 5%, that kind of number. he's run a very dirty campaign. he's run a very populist campaign. he's really annoyed the conservative high command even if it's a vote for leave, he is not guaranteed the premiership. i think he's going to face competition from a number of other insiders. the home secretary is the one i would flag as being the most competitive. even in a leave scenario, he isn't guaranteed the premiership. in a remain scenario that becomes something of a distant dream for him. >> so many complicated politics in this brexit vote we didn't even get to what this could mean for the rest of europe, is there a domino effect, et cetera. appreciate your time and expertise on this issue. >> thank you.

much more from capitol hill as the house sit-in is continuing. then donald trump makes his pitch to sanders supporters. does he really think he can win them over? stay tuned.

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time now for the lid. i'm joined in washington by washington free beacon's matthew continetti, susan page and here in the other washington, msnbc political analyst ron reagan because they didn't want me lonely here. >> that's true. i'm here for you. >> i appreciate that. but i'm going to start remote first. i want to start with what we're seeing on the house floor. susan page, put this in perspective. what do you make of this, how significant? >> you know, this is the kind of political theater that is so much fun to cover. i don't think this has ever happened before. i think democrats have found something that may or may not result in a vote but it certainly has given them a lot of attention. it's robbed donald trump of some attention he might have gotten for today's big speech and puts speaker ryan in something of a box. he's known as a good guy who doesn't squelch debate. he's probably in a quandary right now about how to defuse this in a way that doesn't encourage rule breaking. >> matthew, what do you make of

it? forget the politics of it. what do you make of it as a political event? >> i think the politics are pretty important. for me it shows that the democrats think they have the wind at their backs on the gun issue after orlando. they were very quick to kind of reframe gun control fights as anti-terror fights and that's been going on since the attack. it's very similar i think in a way to how donald trump reframed immigration as a terror issue after san bernardino. we have kind of seen now both parties, trump and now with the house democrats, and the senate democrats, everything becomes a terror issue, whether it's gun control, immigration, whathave you. >> you bring up a good point. the power of the "t" word in moving that middle, whatever the remaining middle is. >> well, it's extraordinary here. there's an irony that easily 70% of the american public and even nra members see the sense of people who can't get on an airplane and fly shouldn't be allowed to buy powerful assault

weapons and explosives. that just doesn't make sense. as far as the background check thing, what point is there in having a background check if 45% of gun sales aren't subject to one? it just doesn't make any sense. so you're right, the political wind is at the democrats' back. >> matthew, how would you recommend to speaker ryan he defuse this? call a vote? it does strike me as one of those where both parties think the politics works for them. >> right. in washington we can overinterpret these events and everything and kind of endow them with great significance when in the long run, it probably won't matter much. i really wouldn't know what to say to speaker ryan if he asked me what to do here. of course, when the democrats had a similar issue back when they controlled the congress, i think they basically turned out the lights and kicked the republicans out. i don't know if paul ryan's going to do that. i think he's going to let it run for awhile and see how it kind of evolves on its on. >> susan page, let me move to trump and his speech today against clinton.

it's a speech that i'm sure there's a lot of republicans wondering why he didn't deliver that speech a month ago, so timing, but we have seen the new trump campaign for 36 hours. i was struck by something barry e bennett told me. i said what's the difference. he said e-mail. stuff goes out, people hear from the people hear from the dam campaign. i was like one person was the clog in all of this. >> i think there's been a huge difference. maybe he won't be able to sustain it. maybe it's not enough. they sent out an advanced text of the speech he gave. he pretty much followed it. that's definitely a first for the trump campaign. the clinton folks sent out a speech text before remarks. they sent out push back yesterday. we haven't seen that before. we saw the candidate continued to make statements that are disputed and inaccurate but it was a much more disciplined speech. i think it's helped to calm down

some of the republican who is have really been concerned about what direction this campaign is going. >> matthew, two questions for you. it's a message he delivered that many republicans will like hearing, but is he the right messenger. he said the clintons use their position to make money different ways. well, he made this from a trump hotel in soho. is he the right person to effectively make that argument? >> no, i don't think so. it's also remarkable to me the trump campaign set the bar so low for its first year in existence that now the very fact they release an advanced text of a speech is a mighty achievement and everyone in the press core goes they're really get things under control. one difference with the message question, which is, this is

basically the same message trump was delivering to primary audiences. i don't think intellectually he realized we're in a general election. we keep saying is he going to pivot. we mean the mechanics of the campaign. i think he has to start thinking about broadening his message. he has a problem with core republican groups. i don't think that's going to work in the long run. >> one of the things he tried to appeal today, ron reagan, sanders supporters that want to be never clinton. we have seen some supporters are not ready to go with clinton. i ask you this because we're in the -- the heart of bernie sanders, which is here in the seattle metro area. >> indeed. >> do you find bernie people that would vote trump or gary johnson? >> possibly gary johnson although i don't think in huge

numbers. bernie sanders and donald trump are not analogs. any bernie sanders supporter will not naturally gravitate to trump. back to donald trump, it strikes me here there's a tendency on the part of we who talk on television to try to pretend this campaign is in some way normal. any discussion of this campaign seems to start from the recognition that donald trump is a charlatan who is running scam and is in no way fit for office and the republican party has become a dysfunctional wheels off the bus. that's the reality we start with here. >> how do you really feel about donald trump? let me ask you this, there's a pretty well known republican in foreign policy circles made

something clear that didn't shock anybody. sort of in the mainstream sort of old school republican policy. he said i'm voting for clinton, not trump. a lot of bush and reagan era are doing that. do you hear a lot? >> this isn't a political decision. this isn't about one person's policies versus the other. this is an individual, who i would maintain running a scam. he's not really running for president. b, if he were running for president must be insane because he's totally unfit for office. that's not political judgment. that's a personal adjustment about the man. >> matthew, supporting clinton over trump isn't going to surprise anybody that knows when the republican party.

>> my first thought was, he and hillary were on opposite sides of the iraq war. for some of the character reasons that ron mentioned, it's an easy call, this goes to trump's bigger problem. he's doing so well with white voters without college degrees that it's masking the fact he's really underperforming with white voters with college degrees. i expect hillary clinton to make a major effort. there's no way he can win the presidency without really scoring a massive majority of white voters with college educations and without. >> i guess the lemonade he could make is our foreign policy has

worked for 25, 30 years then he will run this as anti-establishment. >> no one has more credentials. donald trump won this nomination by getting voters to support him in the republican primaries. voters will decide if this is somebody they trust. in the end, voters get to choose. >> the voters get to decide. matthew, susan and ron, thanks very much. we'll be right back.

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. that does it for us tonight. big thanks to my friends here, the king five for hosting us today. "with all due respect" starts 15 seconds late. i'm mark halperin. america is plenty great buster. >> appears donald trump is launching a new product. it's