she gets rich making you poor. hillary clinton at the state department approved the transfer of 20% of america's uranium holdings to russia. nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the clinton foundation. >> the clinton foundation helps

poor people around the world get access to lifesaving aids medicine. donald trump produces poor people around the world to produce his suits and ties. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it's great to have you here this morning. it's very interesting. there you actually had donald trump prepare a speech, deliver a speech, have a planned line of attack and even at times be hopeful. "new york times" talking about him breathing new life into america's new industries and creating a second industrial age and there you had hillary clinton defending the clinton foundation. much different than things have been in the past. interesting day. fascinating things unfolding on the floor, house floor, historic and of course we've got brexit in england right now.

we've got a lot to cover and very little time to get there, willie. they only give us three hours and we need six. >> you keep asking for that fourth hour. >> good morning. thursday, june 23rd. mika has the day off. nicolle wallace, nbc contributor, the legend, mike barnicle. >> thank you. >> they are not booing. they are saying legend area. political writer from the "new york times" and renowned ad man donny deutsch. >> renowned. >> renowned. you should protest that. >> washington anchor from bbc in london with brexit. we'll get to that historic vote. >> what did you think, willie, first of all trump and clinton's response to trump.

i thought it was pretty fascinating. >> on the sliding scale of trump as political candidate, he had a message, one of the best days he had on the campaign trail. he did drift as it weren't on to some of the conspiracy stuff. he said the one line, i'm for her, he said i'm for you. that sounds like something you guys would get together in a room of professionals and say this is our message. >> i thought that was a great moment. i was here for the live coverage of it and it ended in katy tur analyzing it as if it's a normal politician delivering a normal speech. tied my head in a knot. wait, you have to judge trump on a 24-hour mission. what was more impressive than speech, well crafted and delivered, he managed to get through the rest of the day without stepping on his own message.

that was the test to see if republicans were looking at him to see if he could pass. he passed the performance test and also passed not stepping on his own message. >> no doubt about it. donny deutsch, what was so fascinating, after he gave the speech, some people came to him on the campaign and said, hey, listen, you've got several interviews scheduled throughout the day, like he does every day, why don't you just let your speech speak for itself. donald trump for the first time in the campaign said, okay, and he did. so we're talking about a planned speech that smart people helped put together instead of something he said off the top of his head at 7:34 last night when he was tired. >> i find it astounding we're amazed when he walks and chews gum at the same time.

>> we're not giving him gold stars. >> joe. >> make no mistake. we're saying he needs to show some discipline and he showed some discipline. last night, amazing, he read off the teleprompter. >> he's getting gold stars. he basically didn't -- i thought it was the kitchen sink, saying hillary was completely responsible for all the problems of the middle east. the fact he's getting gold stars or kudos or positive affirmation for reading the teleprompter, not going off the rails giving a very all over the map kitchen sink, i think we need -- >> i don't think anyone -- >> i say he passed the test. >> what is that test? acting like a normal human being. >> $1.3 million and entire republican leadership had to rebuke him every week for the last four weeks. >> throw cereal against the

yard. >> we're not throwing a parade, we're just suggesting there was movement. >> here is the most important thing, mike barnicle. when donald trump drives a run away beer truck with hair on fire shooting with both hands out both windows, shouting p profani profanities. he's tied in ohio, when he's the worst politician of all time he's tied in ohio and pennsylvania. this -- why does this matter? because if he gets on a disciplined game, then suddenly republicans go, wait a second, and it's already started. i can write a check to this guy. they are raising a lot of money online. you're doing to see that in a few weeks. it's doing to start rolling in. why does it matter he's acting like a normal human being?

republicans say i'm glad he's acting like a normal human being for once. i think i might write him a check. it matters. let's pretend it doesn't matter. >> it does matter, there's no doubt about it. nicole edged up to what was going on yesterday in that we have to cover -- it's sort of like trump today. that's the coverage. what does he do today. does he revert back to who he is. he got a 24-hour reprieve. donny is right. if you look at the text of that speech, what was it about? it was a torrent of insults toward hillary clinton, very little substance. the substance he did reference causes potentially great division with his own political party. he was talking about rebuilding america. he's really talking about a huge job program. a america he remembers building

roads, canals, spending an enormous amount of government money. >> guess what, mike, that's called the pivot. he was talking to bernie supporters saying you've been let down. these trade deals with let us down. i'm going to bring bk a new industrial age. i'm going to bring jobs back to america. yes, i will use the power of government to do that. there are a hell of a lot of bernie supporters, people from wisconsin, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania, who say that's the message. you look at a pew poll we're going to be talking about in a little bit, willie geist, and americans are more divided than ever before. those people, those republicans are going to vote for trump if he shows them he's safe. he can afford to move to the center and talk about rebuilding roads, infrastructure, rebuilding america, bringing jobs back to america and actually tart stealing democratic votes.

that's at least a theory of the case and it's been working now for him for about 12 hours. nobody is overselling this, simply stating what happened yesterday, which is our job. >> that's why i said at the top it's a sliding scale. we're grading him on the curve. we'll see if he can maintain this. we'll see if he can maintain this for the next 12 hours. here is a little of what he said yesterday. >> this election will decide whether we're ruled by the people or by the politicians. hillary clinton has perfected the politics of personal property and even theft. she ran the state department like her own personal hedge fund doing favors for oppressive regimes and many others, many, many, others, in exchange for cash. pure and simple, folks.

the choice of this election is a choice from taking it back from special interest or surrendering the last scrap of total and complete control to people like the clintons. americans are the people that tamed the west, that dug out the panama canal, that sent satellites across the solar system. that built the great dams and so much more. then we really started thinking small. something happened to our mentality. we started thinking small. we stopped believing in what america could do and became reliant on other countries, other people, and other institutions. we lost our sense of purpose and daring. but that's not who we are. >> in this story that had some

tough rebuke -- critique's of trump, she did also say it was a more hopeful speech. certainly get the tone of it there instead of america is not great anymore, even lines written there. that's not who we are. we can build a new industrial age. that is a more hopeful message for americans to digest. >> well, also i heard in that speech really targeting the things most vulnerable hillary clinton and things that might be most appealing to middle, swing voters. jobs programs, infrastructure spending, things frankly republicans are lucky to touch in a general election, going after a trustworthiness. a lot of americans are worried and skeptical about what they have read about the foundation and donors of the foundation clantsd and state department and those are points of vulnerability. if he can stay sort of in that lane, he can probably do a per

job. i'm just wondering if the part of trump made him successful and fired up people, fired up his insurrection of the party, can he dividit from the part of him that can win the whole election. if he tames it down too much, is he going to lose those people who are so excited to see his manner and pluntness and sometimes his overbluntness. >> i think that's the real challenge. it's a balance. personally i don't think a lot of trump supporters are going to go anywhere for now, the hard core supporters. if they were going to go somewhere, they would have had thousands of excuses to do it already. they aren't going to do it because he's using a teleprompter, i don't think. katty kay, it was interesting going after hillary clinton really harsh, calling her a world-class liar. he keyed in on something. donald trump's achilles heel, at

least donald trump thinks, trump university, hillary clinton, i really think is the clinton foundation. there were so many cases other countries would come talk to her. bill clinton would a couple months be getting $550,000 in that country for a one-hour speech. it just reminded me of a puncher punching somebody where somebody was bruised already. i think they really hit a spot of vulnerability for hillary clinton. there she was responding just a couple hours later. >> yeah, but i thought that response was pretty effective, downtown, joe. the way she immediately came back and said donald trump has been selling steaks and wine and water and all those things we saw behind him on stage in florida, clinton foundation has been helping poor people around the world. haven't had a huge amount because the focus has been so much on the e-mail issue and her time in the state department.

around the clinton department that may come out much more and donald trump may drive that exposure much more, but so far i think most people when they look at hillary clinton and think untrustworthy, what is it you don't like about her, it's not the clinton foundation people are talking about, it's the e-mail issue people are talking about. i agree with nick. i think there's a tone issue for donald trump. he read the teleprompter fine, gave a boilerplate speech, he didn't sound like donald trump. he didn't sound like the excited, happy candidate to be out there, who loves bashing people and loves the tone of his own voice. i think this is going to be really hard for him to maintain because it doesn't feel natural to him. >> nicole, what do you think? >> i think in the same way we can't throw a parade for him because he had a 45-minute

message discipline. i got a text from my focus group who was thrilled seeing him speaking to a script, thought the idea his family in control, people he works with day in and day out on the business side, know how his brain is wired was a hopeful point. his supporters haven't walked away because of four consecutive weeks of racism skanlts aren't going to walk away because he didn't titillate them on teleprompter. >> donny, let me ask you something and get your response. we have been talking about e-mails because there's an active fbi investigation, that's why we're talking about e-mails and not foundation. i don't think americans cared whether trump steaks or trump university failed or not, that cuts to the core of what 2016 is about, people in chain, feel like government let them down.

i actually do think money, clinton foundation, all the questions swirling around that, i do think that seems to fit more tightly the anti-government mood this year that somebody within the state department used their power, used their influence so people in the family could make $550,000 delivering a one-hour speech. that actually fits the system is rigged theory much more than trump told steaks purchase i'm doing to giveette a tie, a wash on both. it's not just steaks. it's that he's flimflam artist, making money off the little guy. i call it a wash on the other side. clinton status quo, establishment used to make money, a wash on both sides. i think the overall on both

sides, continuing to sell hillary as untrustworthy overall and continuing to sell truch as potentially dangerous overall. those are subheads but still add up to those big microbrand stickers. whoever paints a bigger picture, a bigger brand sticker on the other one wins this one. >> joe, off of what donny's last reference there to people thinking might be dangerous, we v alluded to it but 99% of the people watching don't know who he is but he's an important guy in foreign policy establishment, important guy in foreign policy circles, national security circles. i suspect he's the first of those types of people who will endorse hrk and that gets to an unknown quality in this election. donald trump national security

and is he capable -- do people want him sitting there with the hand on the nuclear button. first i think the answer is a resounding no. >> untrustworthy and more of the same. that's the choice. >> i actually think -- i do think a lot more people know who brent scowcroft is. the two labels people attach. for trump, it's dangerous, too dangerous to take that chance. that's what they tried with ronald reagan in 1980, jimmy carter failed. but that's what you have to do with donald trump. on hillary's side it's corrupt, too corrupt to trust with the presidency of the united states and she proved it with the state department. dangerous versus corrupt, that's probably how this thing is going to break out.

>> if there's one thing on hillary clinton you see again and again in polls and weakness, it's just that, not trustworthy, something not quite right with the clintons and he's got to throw up that. i said the word of the day. gechlt estault. trying to force vote on gun measures led by civil rights leader lewis. >> i never dreamed one day after coming to congress i would have to sit in on the floor of the house, sit down and occupy the will of the house. we've been waiting, waiting for a long time for the leadership to bring a piece of legislation, or maybe more than one piece, to deal with gun violence. >> one of the democrats who staged the sitting, joaquin castro and republican tom cole

will be here as well. today's historic brexit vote, whether uk should remain in the eu or not. we'll go to keir simmons and talk to katty kay. now to bill karins. >> no injuries and no death reported at this point, which is great. there was a mini tornado outbreak. chicago we were fearful for you. we did get a strong thunderstorms, winds gusting 50 to of 0 miles an hour. people at the copa tournament, soccer tournament in soldiers field. they went into the tunnels and you can see why. thankfully no one was injured there and they did get the match in. 18 tornadoes reported across illinois. there's one there. most on the weaker end and most in an open field. as far as when we're dealing with, dealing with strong thunderstorms, thunderstorm watch for areas of virginia. closer up view shows we have severe thunderstorm warnings in northern kentucky, southern ohio and west virginia and one severe

thunderstorm 50 miles due west of richmond, virginia. steady rains over washington, d.c., over the next three hours and then it will clear out, additional strong storms in the mid-atlantic region in ohio this afternoon. wind damage today, not too worried about tornadoes through the mid-atlantic region an that's good. areas north of philadelphia, new york city included. you're looking for a dry day, sunrise around new york city, comfortable temperatures. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. this just got interesting.

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all right. now to what's being called the most dramatic demonstrations on the house floor in modern democrats. occupying the house to force a vote on new gun measures. sit-in organized by john larson of connecticut and led by civil rights icon john lewis began before 11:30 yesterday morning and stretched into this morning. around last night paul ryan opened a new legislative day complete with pledge of allegiance and the house over chants of democrats completed the rest of the week's business, adjourned and now will not

return until july 5th. that capped a dramatic day that began with a man who is no stranger to protest. >> newtown, charleston, orlando. what is the tipping point? are we blind? can we see? how many more mothers, how many more fathers need to share tears of grief before we do smomethin? we were led to lead, mr. speaker. we must be headlights, not taillights. we cannot continue to stick our heads in the sand and ignore the reality of mass gun violence in our nation. >> rise up, democrats. rise up, americans. this cannot stand. we will occupy this floor.

we will no longer be denied a right to vote. >> just as the sit-in was beginning the house took a recess meaning the cameras under control by majority party were cut. democrats took the protest then to social media. some members broadcasting live on facebook and periscope, which is a violation of house rules. then around 10:00 last night house speaker paul ryan tried to hold a vote on unrelated legislation when this happened. >> pursuant to the house, unfinished business is consideration on house joint resolution 88. the clerk -- >> house speaker could hardly get a word over no bill, no vote and other time singing we shall pass a bill someday to the tune of "we can overcome." amounted to a pr stunt. >> first i would tell you, wolf, this is not more than a

publicity stunt. that's point number one. point number two, this bill was already defeated in the united states senate. number three, we are not doing to take away a citizen's due process rights, not going to take away a sentence's constitutional rights without due process of that was already defeated in the senate. this is not a way to bring up legislation. >> a lot to suggest. bring in rachel live on capitol hill covering the sit-in from the start. walk us through this a little bit, how it came about and where it is now. >> probably the most interesting day covering the house i've ever witnessed. it all started with a dozen democrats who came together, rank and file members, which is sort of odd because usually house democrats follow the lead of nancy pelosi. this was actually very much grassroots in the house, a group of a dozen democrats were frustrated they couldn't get a vote on gun legislation and they didn't know what to do about it. in the senate they have a filibuster where a senator can

come to the floor and basically hold the floor hostage and talk about their issue until they can't talk anymore but in the house they don't have this. so the group of democrats met tuesday night under the lead of john larsson and basically they decided what if we do a sit-in, sit down on the floor cross legged and start chanting. can we hold up legislation on the house floor? turns out they can. they talked to the parliamentarian and basically they said this could happen if they tried to do this. they talked to house leadership, democratic leadership, the only thing leadership said, if you're going to do this, make sure you know what you're doing, someone who has done this before and can make it go boom. naturally they turned to john lewis, civil rights leader has done this before and has a great reputation and really captured the entire day. this was the story leading the day. >> so rachel, what is it specifically they are after,

just the two provisions on background checks and also on not being able to buy a gun if you're on one of these government watch lists? >> that's right. that's exactly what steny hoyer, the minority whip told majority leader kevin mccarthy on the floor. he approached him and said what do you need? he said we need a vote on the two issues. republicans are saying it's a publicity stun. we heard this from paul ryan. maybe in some light it is about publicity. this is an issue americans are talking about right now following orlando and they want to draw attention to it. they want to draw attention to the fact that republicans in the house are not allowing just the vote on this. it's not like they are protesting the fact it's not passing, they were asking to simply vote on the matter. in some way they wanted to shine a light and have the entire nation see the light that republicans were not allowing this. >> all right, rachel. we'll let you run back to the floor and this thing is ongoing. thanks so much, we appreciate it. joe, as we watch this unfold,

it's been 19 hours. what do you think? >> i'll tell you what, paul ryan said it was nothing but a publicity stunt. if that's the case, it's a damn good publicity stunt. it also happens to be a damn good publicity stunt that has 90% of americans behind it. you look at the scene for me where democrats were holding up bills while paul ryan was speaking and waving it and asking, just give us a vote. give us a vote. i've seen this used time and time again as a powerful, powerful political tool where you have a majority looking like it is steam rolling over a minority that's trying to get a bill voted on that the majority of americans would want not only voted on but passed. and nicole, you look at these images, it's not good for the republican party. we've talked about some problems the republican have had in the past, look at that scene right

there. do you know what's holding that bill up from being voted on and being passed? a couple of people in the washington offices of the national rifle association. that's not me making a political stateme statement. that is me stating the fact 90% of americans want to keep guns out of the hands of terrorist and want expanded background checks not only agree with but know. this is a bad scene for republicans, nicole. i wonder how long we're going to continue to let three or four people in the national headquarters of the national rifle association in washington, d.c., continue to put the republican party in a bad position when 85% of americans support -- republicans support this as well. >> including a lot of lawful gun owners. 85% of the country behind anything, it includes a whole bunch of people who are members of the nra.

i have two thoughts. one, there have been a lot of cringe worthy moments for republicans in this year so far. this was one of them. i think taking an issue as visceral and as tragic, not just mass shootings but willie told me to follow "chicago tribune" on twitter. dozens of people die every day. >> every day. >> by guns. we talk about the mass shootings because they tend to grab headlines. we go wall-to-wall with our coverage. gun violence isn't just about these moments where you get everyone's attention and there's even the chance of action in congress, which is sad in and of itself. when paul ryan called it a publicity stunt, everything as a mom, former political pr person, i cringed out loud. the other thing is, paul ryan has to be careful not to lose the gift he has, which is he's usually pretty in touch with the grassroots. to sort of take and carry the

water for the nra, which is the leadership of the organization, really not the mood and sentiment of the members of the organization is a dangerous road to travel down. >> joe, i'm going to just move down, take it from november. i would love to be creating ads for any democrat running against any one of those republicans. the statement is my opponent wants to keep guns in the hands of terrorists. >> that simple. >> when i say it's that simple, donny, the argument to make that 30-second ad, that is the bumper sticker. it is that simple. they can talk about due process. there's a part of this bill that takes care of due process. this is about allowing terrorists to get their hands on weapons. either unbelievable that the republicans are allowing themselves to be set up this way. they can deny it all they want to. it going to be a hell of a tough 30-second ad, willie, for any republican to get around when 85% of republicans support

increased background checks that keeps guns out of the hands of terrorists and keeps guns out of the hands of domestic abusers and other people that shouldn't be running around with ar-15s. >> the due process part of this, the fix they are talking about, is very important to this whole thing. people say, whether you like it or not, your right to own a gun is protected by united states constitution. there are people on the watch list who have done nothing wrong. by the way, remember the story 12 years ago john lewis on a watch list. >> ted kennedy. >> he was stopped at every airport, walked through, had his luggage gone through in front of the airport. >> they have proposed a fix. i think that's on the table now. so republicans talk about it as though -- >> do your job, have a vote, do your job. >> all right. let's move to the other big story of the morning. if you look at any paper around the world today, the front page is about brexit. there's the "financial times." there's "wall street journal."

people in briton heading to the polls casting ballot in historic vote to decide whether or not to remain member of european union. poll stations open already, among those casting ballots, prime minister cameron and his wife samantha. electoral commission said they expect results by tomorrow. joining us from london nbc foreign correspondent kir simmons. good morning. keir, any sense how this will shake out? >> we don't know. we know it's a once in a generation vote. let me show you front page of the newspaper here. front page of popular sun newspaper. banner headline, independence day. front page of its competitor, "the mirror" don't take a leap in the dark. that sums it up. it's a bit like britain is considering whether to divorce european union, a bit like a divorce. for some there's a sense freedom is close. for others, it's clear this

could end in disaster. "financial times" poll of polls saying now 48 to 46% of voters remaining. there was a big group who say they haven't yet decided. guys, imagine texas voting to leave the united states or at least voting to not give any money to washington and do its own trade deals. it's not a perfect comparison. if you imagine the kind of fallout there would be economically, that's a pretty new description of what people are frightened of after this vote if the a vote to leave the european union. >> we'll know in just a few hours. nbc keir simmons, thank you very much. let's go to katty. for people tuning in, ups and down, pros and cons either way

on this. >> europe is being part, britain part of some form of the european union for most of my life. today brits will vote whether to leave that union. this is why the vote is so important. this not the kind of vote you can reverse. not like the general election. in four year's time we dornt get a chance to change this. what brits decide is forever. brits don't get to go back. either we stay in the european union or leave forever of the argument people want to make is that europe is not a strong economy, we'll be better off without it and regain some sense of national sovereignty and national pride. those who want to stay in the european union say we are stronger if we're part of a big trading block and from a security point of view, and this really interesting and i've had so much interest from this story from people in washington, people in the white house, former national security advisers who will say it's critical from an american perspective that britain stay part of europe because that

makes it part of intelligence sharing, cyber sharing, in the battle against terrorism. american officials feel -- and this is both democrats and republicans -- they are clear that they feel we are better off if britain stays in the european union because it makes the battle against terrorism an easier one for united states to fight alongside the uk. it been an incredibly bit her, angry campaign. we'll know in a few hours time which way brits decide. >> katty, i was talking to a couple of friends from northern england yesterday afternoon, just how are you going to vote, without having any idea what they were going to say, it sounded a lot like trump voters in america. they said we're not europeans. germans call themselves europeans. we're brits. we're from britain. we've done enough on immigration. throughout our entire lifetime we've seen immigrants pour in and we're fine wit. enough is enough. also financially, they need us a

lot more than we need them. what are we getting out of europe? what are we getting out of carrying everybody. it was a britain first argument that seemed very compelling. they weren't political people, they weren't connected to politics. it was just a gut feeling. i sat there saying, this sounds kind of familiar. >> it's interesting. i do think there are a lot of parallel between the people in america who feel they want to protest the existing systems, protest against the status quo and that's why they want to vote trump. the feeling that anything is better than what we have and existing structures have not benefited us. that feeling is palpable here in the uk, too. it's brussels, not washington. that feeling that anything must be better than what we have. if you feel you've been left behind by forces of globalization, free trade, open borders and immigration, then you wan to kick against the system. in a sense you're saying we're going to protest now.

we'll see what the fallout is later but anything must be better than what we have. that's what people are feeling in britain, too, what people are feeling about trump supporters, too. >> it's going to be an unbelievably close call tonight. we'll all, of course, be watching it. not only where you are but here and across the world. katty kay, that you so much. we'll be right back with more trump versus clinton. company says they'll only mese pay three quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. i have an orc-o-gram we for an "owen."e. that's me. ♪ you should hire stacy drew. ♪ ♪ she wants to change the world with you. ♪

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sanders voters to join our movement. so together we can fix the system for all americans. so important. >> donald trump making a direct appeal to bernie sanders supporters in his speech yesterday. while senator sanders has not formally conceded to secretary clinton, he has come one step closer to acknowledging defeat. >> have you begun to prepare your speech for the convention? will you speak at the convention? >> it's hard to say. it doesn't appear i'm going to be the nominee, so i'm not going to be determining the scope of the convention. >> donald trump said to all those bernie sanders voters who have been left out in the cold by a rigged system, we welcome you with open arms. >> i suspect he's not going to get too many of those people. i think the vast majority of the people who voted for me understand that donald trump in

a dozen different ways is literally unfit to be president of the united states. >> bloomberg national poll show 55% of sanders supporters plan to vote for hillary clinton in november. 22% say they will vote for trump, 18% favor libertarian gary johnson. stop for one second, nicole when you saw that. >> i'm not good at math but 22 plus 18 is a whole lot of people not voting for hillary clinton. >> this is before he comes out and gets behind her. that's doing to change dramatically. >> that's an astounding number and a great internal challenge. we cover her as the candidate she thinks she is but those are pretty stunning numbers i think, joe. >> two things, sanders makes a speech in new york to talk about the state of his campaign, where it goes from here and bernie sanders will be on this show tomorrow talking to us. >> first of all, pretty astounding he said he wasn't going to be the nominee. he went ahead and admitted that. also, those numbers, they will stop you in sur cracks there.

before we figure out voter, we can go back to 1968. i've said it before on this show, the kennedy family still perplexed how a liberal icon like bobby kennedy after being shot would see so many of his votes go to a racist demagogue like george wallace. it happened. they still don't understand why it happened. but voters go where they want to go. i suppose we shouldn't be shocked by numbers we just saw there. >> i think events are overtaken by narratives we spin about the candidates. bernard is a socialist liberal so his followers must all be socialist liberals. in fact, if you look at polling on supporters, a lot of them are middle of the road or right leaning. it's not totally surprising. i will say, nicole, some polls have shown a much higher percentage of his voters going to hillary clinton, 75%.

it's striking to see his narrative of the campaign against the establishment is still going. it's the first we heard bernie sanders even hint what the delegate numbers and polls show, he will not be the nominee. >> i wonder if there were a different nominee how many voters would be able to stomach voting for a republican but can't vote for donald trump. >> we live in the day. sanders and trump have been spending 10 months talking about a rigged establishment and rigged economy and that's what has sunk in. >> willie, i think it's, more traditional candidate, i'm not going to take it anymore. >> i totally agree with that. you would not see a mitt romney or john mccain or bob dole or george w. bush draw those type of numbers and that is what makes donald trump so fascinating in the general election. >> we will see. just ahead this morning we'll go live to nbc's hallie jackson with new reporting this morning on the heels of donald trump's toughes speech yet against hillary clinton. "morning joe" is back in a moment.

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you know, it's just fantastic to be here, just fantastic. >> isn't he beautiful? isn't he terrific. >> down, boy. >> easy, easy. >> little donald, i've got an idea. let's prank call hillary. here, you pretend to be bernie sanders. >> hello, secretary clinton, this is senator bernie sanders. is your refrigerator running? well, so am i, and i'm never, ever dropping out. >> genius. it's genius. where did you learn all these amazing impressions. >> trump university, which is terrific by the way, just so you know. >> just so you know. >> welcome back to "morning joe." willie geist, the incomparable

jack i'ailo, unbelievable. >> one minute you're doing that at your graduation, the next jimmy fallon. >> i've seen it three times and gets funnier to me. >> remember the name. good morning, june 23rd, mika has the morning off. still with us on set we just saw great nicolle wallace by our side and veteran columnist and legendary -- >> do we have to do it every time? stop it. >> mike barnicle. donny deutsch with us as well. now joining the conversation from his country manor somewhere outside nashville, tennessee, the rolling hills of the mid south historian jon meacham. good morning, jon. >> good morning. i just passed the statue of you. for those that don't willie is member of vanderbilt hall of fame and there is a statue downtown. >> i knew you would get that in.

thank you, jon. >> these take about 20 minutes. >> kristen solstice anderson. could to see you as well. dueling speeches by donald trump and hillary clinton. first up yesterday was trump, a 41-minute speech aiming to shift the focus off him and back to hillary clinton. >> this election will decide whether we are ruled by the people or by the politicians. hillary clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even theft. she ran the state department like her own personal hedge fund doing favors for oppressive regimes and many others, many, many others, in exchange for cash. pure and simple, folks. the choice of the election is taking government back from special interest or surrendering really the last scrap of

independence to the total and complete control of people like the clintons. hillary clinton wants to be president but she doesn't have the temperament, or, as bernie sanders said very strongly, the judgment to be president. she does not have the judgment. americans are the people that tamed the west, that dug out the panama canal, that sent satellites across the solar system, that built the great dams and so much more. and then we really started thinking small. something happened. something happened to our mentality, we started thinking small. we stopped believing in what america could do and became reliant on other countries, other people and other institutio institutions. we lost our sense of purpose and daring but that's not who we

are. isis also threatens p peaceful muslims across the middle east and peaceful muslims across the world who have been terribly victimized by horrible brutality and only want to raise their kids in peace and safety. she believes she's entitled to the office. her campaign slogan is "i'm with her." you know what my response is to that? i'm with you, the american people. she thinks it's all about her. i know it's all about you. you know it's all about making america great again for all americans, all americans. >> trump carried new merchandise i'm with you on social media, selling i'm with you t-shirt for $35, a departure for make america great again thing while clinton responded adding an asterisk to the you, fine print

not valid for muslims, women, lattins, affirms, latino families, middle class, so on and so forth. that aside, joe, what did you think of the speech from donald trump? >> i thought it was a vast improvement. i'm curious a lot of things he was talking about, jon meacham, sitting at the birth place of jacksonian democracy if you didn't see parallel, guy running against moneyed interest, washington establishment, a guy saying, hey, they are for them selves. i'm with you. whether you don't see parallel of the guy that you studied quite a bit, andrew jackson. >> yeah, absolutely. trump is speaking the classic language of american populism, which as you say really began in the 1820s. jackson was the first person to really use it it in a popular way the phrase, corrupt bargain. he was talking about a rigged system about political insiders

picking presidents a long time before they were talking about it with sanders and trump and all of that. so that vernacular set almost 200 years ago now is clearly in play here. one of the things i think is interesting you've talked about a lot, like to hear is, really two messages there. there's classic anti-clinton message, which i must say for 25 say for 25 years conservatives in america have run against clintons on issues of character and that sort of thing and it hasn't really worked out. you've got a two-term democratic president out of it and now the first female nominee of a major party. but then that second part that we ran about thinking small, that's resonant. there is a sense there was a destiny, national greatness, we sent men to the moon. we've done less -- we've not

less, largely and more dramatically. that's a message that i think if trump were to stick with the second one perhaps less than the first one that could perhaps grow a general election number. >> i completely agree with you. nicole, the fact that you have donald trump actually breaking away possibly from the small government conservatism and where he's talking about jobs programs, rebuilding infrastructure, talking about making the type of investments that might bring industrial jobs back to america, at least that's the theory of his case, that goes outside the traditional republican message of less government, less influence. who knows, maybe he's right. maybe that does resonate with the general election voter? >> when you look at sort of the undercurrent of what's doing on in our party, it's trump's dismay the republican party

doesn't appreciate or understand his political achievement and sort of his feeling he's waiting for respect. he's waiting for them to realize that he's sort of this once in a generation figure to bring along these kinds of voters who were not animated or interested in republican advocacy for free trade around the world, who are not interested in wars in the middle east. his case and his point is that he can bring along voters who are looking for jobs here at home, who would take jobs rebuilding america's airports and america's roads. this is getting back to what elevated trump way back at the beginning of the republican primary when he had 16 opponent. >> donny, we talked in the last hour grading him on the curve. compared to other speeches it was a professional speech, crafted by campaign operatives. does it change the dynamic and can he consistently perform this way or does he go back to being himself? >> that's the million dollar question brought up earlier. yes, he was professional.

give him nice points for that. he does lose something on the teleprompter. you turn away a bit. general scrutiny, this is general election, he continues to call hillary the liar, lying hillary, yet politifact has shown 59% of what he says totally is either an absolutely pants on fire lie or a lie, whereas on hillary that number is 12%. so he's going to be called a lot more. it's different when you're one of 16. now it's one-on-one. every speech he gives and everything he says is now scrutinized. it's going to be different. jody, your point and also to the great pulitzer prize winner's point, maybe shifting a bit away from exclusively hillary is a liar to, hey, let's make america, back to america bigger than ever, think big. that was the first time i heard that. >> some undercurrents of racial resentment, cultural nationalism, just the positive side of it. >> we haven't talked about it.

he didn't restate call for muslim ban, immigration, i wrote it down because it stunned me. his immigration message to the degree he spoke to it in his speech was simply to say we only want people to come here who share our values and love america. that's a big change from what he usually says. >> his principle growth message, in order grow as constituents, i don't know if you agree with this or not, he can talk about infrastructure, which a lot of republicans don't talk about, bringing more jobs back to america, something i don't know a lot of republicans agree with him. but his principle growth message, tucked in what we heard yesterday for 43 minutes. look, you might have questions about me. you might think i might be dangerous as president of the united states, but i, like you, hate hillary clinton. that's his principle growth message to republicans and others.

>> well, i'm not so sure that's the principle message, it's that she can't be trusted. he's trying to disqualify her. at the same time donald trump has to do two things. the first thing, mag sure he's not disqualified to other voters. i want to go back to what nicole was talking about, it's important, something from the beginning, muslim ban. when he talked about peaceful muslims living across the world, it wasn't a huge leap but you missouri what, for republicans like me who says i will never vote for somebody who bans somebody from the country based on their religion, it was a start. what's next? >> republicans waiting and wanting him to deliver a speech with nothing they had to rebuke.

his test yesterday was not whether he can read from a prompter, it was sort of the first performance brought to us wholly from manafort and the family. the most important thing about yesterday, he got through a speech. he tried to get himself on offense against hillary clinton and softened what has so far been the essential pillar of opposition. >> i want to use the word performance. the one thing that worked for trump is authenticity. it's one thing when the words are there, but when they don't feel like they are coming from a gut, somehow that's doing to change. yeah, the performance was there, but was that from the gut or literally just a performance? >> well, listen, again, you can do two things at once. jon meacham, you can go ahead and scat the way he's been scatting over the last nine months to a year but you also have to be able to read a teleprompter, you also have to deliver a message and that's exactly what he did yesterday.

and yeah, the game has changed and he hasn't changed wit. i just want to finish what i was saying. one, you have to get past disqualifying remarks. two, you can open your self up to people about rebuilding america, saying more than making america great but talking about how you're going to do that. that's a two-step challenge, jon. >> i think the rebuilding america message, which is different than making america great to some extent, it's a more mainstream message it seems to me is probably his best path forward. i don't know if it's a sufficient path but it's moving away from respectfully to donny, yes, his authenticity has been his selling card but he's authentic from second to second. one moment he'll say what evenings and a second moment later when challenged he'll reverse it. so being authentic, he's just been inconsistent.

so the real question since he's now the nominee of the republican party, the party of lincoln, eisenhower, george h.w. bush and ronald reagan is he going to say what he means and mean what he says. so if it's going to be the guy yesterday, that's a more plausible president than the fella who has been charming us and mesmerizing us all these months. >> let's head quickly a few blocks away from here to trump tower in new york city. hallie jackson there and she's been covering trump campaign. hallie, is this the message from trump? we expect to see more of the guy we saw yesterday? >> presumably. we've been here before. this is nothing new. as nicole has said and you guys have been talking about. the big thing a lot of people are looking at, including me, what happens tomorrow in scotland when he holds a press conference in front of reporters where he does not have teleprompters and a script. what happens in the united states when he's in front of a crowd he's feeding off of and

energizing him. he likes to feed off the crowd, play off them, go off his notes. that's in the past where we've en him reiterate or double down on calls for muslim ban will these interviews he's done after these moments where he's supposed to have pivoted to be more presidential. so the campaign, new infrastructure at the top of the campaign, folks that have been there for the last couple months that maybe had those power struggles, paul manaforts of the world, would like to see this move forward. they don't want to strip him of his authenticity. can trump be disciplined enough. party unity, trump 2.0 or 6.0, whatever you want to call it if not important to donald trump, so important they are working on this whip operation at the convention. i'm told by a source involved in the effort that about 150 people, volunteers, some staffers, have now received assignments for delegates on the rules committee, platform

committee they know so far to make sure there's no mischief at the convention. the goal being two-fold, number one, make sure there's no sort of ruckus, if you will, prior to cleveland. number two, to make sure that they can try and push back against this narrative stop trump movement is actually going to be successful or try to be successful. >> donald trump following the speech by checking on his golf courses. >> i have to jump in because my head is going to explode. >> we don't want that. >> this is a man who can potentially be commander in chief. the big question is can he stay on a speech? can this man stay the course and read a teleprompter or go off the rails? how about when he's not running for office and there isn't that check and balance on a daily basis. i think we're losing the big thing here, we are grading him now on can he not act like an idiot basically. we are grading him now, if he does not ban an entire billion

and a half group of people from coming into this country. if he does that, that's okay. this is our future commander in chief. >> what does he say about what he said? >> oh, my god, tomorrow is his head going to spin in circles or is he going to be a normal human being and that's the way we're grading him. that's insane. >> donny, isn't the story -- i agree with your assessment but he's tied 40-40 in pennsylvania. he's up two in ohio. the story isn't that's the guy, because that is the guy. the story is that's the guy that half the country thinks could do the job. >> that is my exact point. that is my exact point. we're basically now at 40-40 in those two swing states. basically if he just stops saying racist things and he continues to read from a teleprompter, that's our guy. that's kind of frightening. >> that was the first half of the day. hillary clinton got a chance to respond to donald trump at her rally in north carolina.

>> i know donald hates it when anyone points out how hollow his sale pitch really is, and i guess my speech yesterday must have gotten under his skin because right away he lashed out on twitter with outlandish lies and conspiracy theories and he did the same in his speech today. now, think about it. he's going after me personally because he has no answers on the substance. >> donald trump offers no real solutions for the economic challenges we face. every program i have proposed in this campaign, i tell you how i will pay for it. now, donald trump and i disagree on a lot of things and one of them is simple math. >> all he can do is try to distract us. that's even why he's attacking my face. sigh.

>> kristen anderson standing by patiently in washington. as you watched back and forth yesterday, do you feel like one person got the upper hand over the other. >> i feel like this has become the i am rubber, you are glue election. so many things donald trump had to say about hillary clinton in his speech are the very same things she will stay on him. he's too focused on making himself rich at the expense of other people. he said she was volcanic and impulsive which are words typically used to describe donald trump. their speeches were sort of dueling attempts to stick the labels that they are often accused of being on the other person. part of the reason for that, if you look at the favorable and unfavorable numbers in the polls, donald trump and hillary clinton are both in a really bad place and they are somewhat surprisingly not too far apart. the polling averages so about six out of ten americans have an unfavorable view of donald

trump, about 55% have an unfavorable view of hillary clinton. that's not too far away. i worry this is going to be a race to the bottom, make negative labels stick more securely to the opponent than to them selves. >> kristen, you are so good at looking through the numbers for us. you mentioned unfavorables. what are you looking at specifically. "washington post" numbers on specifically demographic unfavorables, african-american, women, latinos that didn't look good for him. are there rays of hope we're not seeing? >> i think if you look at the dem grachx of the electorate donald trump has huge head winds he's facing. so many groups he struggles, younger voters, latino, these are groups growing as a proportion of the electorate, they will have huge influence. donald trump in key swing states like pennsylvania where perhaps the latino population isn't as big, that's where you're seeing him be able to rearrange the map. a state like florida may no

longer be a swing state with trump as nominee but pennsylvania maybe. that's what's really complicating this race. >> hey, jon meacham, off of what kristen was just telling us, underlining opinions of these polls, we are in the equivalent, i think, of both seventh inning of a nine inning game. it's almost july. yet despite donald trump's, you know, performance yesterday standing up and reading the teleprompter, he still has a lack of mechanical aspects in the campaign that we've all become used to. including saber metrics of campaigning, identifying voters in specific states. so what happens to a trump campaign where it's so flimsy beneath the performance that we saw yesterday. >> yeah. it's one of the great risks. you put your finger on it. from what we can tell, there's some chaos up the street a little bit at trump tower.

they are trying to put this together quickly. it's hard to put together a huge national operation sort of on the fly in a couple of months. this has been driven by incredible cult personality of trump to a large measure as we've all remarked on for months now, it's been run, to some extent, with his getting up in the morning, looking at papers, watching the shows, tweeting and then dominating the news cycle, going to these rallies where people are bringing kids, incredibly emotional. arenas don't necessarily get you a general election win. so i think the -- i hate this phrase but i'll use it, i think the ground game is a hugely important thing. president obama both in '08 and '12 spent an enormous amount of time turning out new voters, which made a critical

difference. we can clearly tell, i think what we just said about race to the bottom, unquestionably this is going tab race to the bottom. the question you're raising is does he have the infrastructure to run professional campaign to november. >> that's a guy who knows about -- >> yes. it takes -- the 45% of the vote you get as major party nominee is baked in. it the next 5% that costs half a billion dollars. that's the problem for donald trump. he can do well as a campaigner, speechmaker. to find voters who aren't engaged, aren't partisan in a usual way that's a lot of money and effort and it's hard. >> they are not right now. >> that's why fec reports from last week were so devastating or earlier this week showing he only had $1.3 million cash in hand. during the primary donald trump got $2 billion in free media. he can tweet his way to the

media side of things but you can't tweet your way to the ground side of things. whether it's building voter file and data operation you need to target voters or getting actual people on the ground, field offices, that's something democrats are really good at. they have been much better at it than republicans in recent election cycles. without enough money in the bank, gas in the tank, how will donald trump be able to match that? i think that's unclear. >> will point out they raised $5 million the last day or so. kristen solstis anderson. jon, we know you need to get in line at pancake factory. marco rubio said he will run for senate again in spite of tweets like this one, quote, i've only said like 10,000 times i will ab private citizen in january. he's running. also ahead -- >> outrageous. these are the rules of the house. you can't have people shutting it down, important legislation to move. what's being done is

unprecedented. if it were allowed to succeed every minority wou do it on everything they wanted to going forward and that's not acceptable. >> what do you hope speaker ryan does to combat this. >> doesn't give an inch. >> joining us to talk about democrats occupation of the house floor. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. aindrone? can't blame you. it's a drone you control with your brain, which controls your thumbs, which control this joystick. no, i'm actually over at the ge booth. we're creating the operating system for industry. it's called predix. it's gonna change the way the world works. ok, i'm telling my brain to tell the drone to get you a copy of my resume. umm, maybe keep your hands on the controller. look out!! ohhhhhhhhhh... you know what, i'm just gonna email it to you. yeah that's probably safer. ok, cool. try cool mint zantac. hey, need fast heartburn relief? it releases a cooling sensation in your mouth and throat. zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. nexium can take 24 hours. try cool mint zantac. no pill relieves heartburn faster.

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newtown, charleston, orlando, what is the tipping point? are we blind? can we see? how many more mothers, how many more fathers need to shed tears of grief before we do something? we were elected to lead, mr. speaker. we must be headlights and not taillights. we cannot continue to stick our heads in the sand and ignore the reality of mass gun violence in our nation. >> that is civil rights icon congressman john lewis leading a sitdown in the house floor aimed at forcing a vote on new gun

control measures. around 10:00 last night house speaker paul ryan tried to reclaim control of the chamber by holding a vote on unrelated legislation, then thp happened. >> pursuant to the order of the house june 8, 2016, the unfinished business is further consideration of the real message of the president on house joint resolution 88. the clerk will report the title -- >> extraordinary scene there. democrats still occupying the floor this morning. let's go now to kelly o'donnell live on capitol hill. kelly, a lot has happened since that first moment we watched and now here we are now coming up on 20 hours of this. >> well, i can tell you there is not a clear end game. this has been far more extraordinary than anyone imagined. the house has always been the side of the hill where emotions are more easily on display. this took hold and also brought people from the community here physically outside the capital

and social media networks brought the world into this conversation. when you have an icon like john lewis leading a very passionate charge, that added credibility, then you have the very real rules of the workplace in a way when you look at house speaker paul ryan who is trying to follow the rules, exert control, some would say avoid the vote. but for house republicans under the rules, they get to run the floor. this is a real question of how far should a protest go, what's the impact. then of course the implication of the fundraising aspect of this. i can tell you i've been receiving lots and lots of fundraising solicitations based on this drama. on the democratic side want their supporters and voters to get on board and try to shine a light on this issue, which is clearly a big wedge issue not only for congressional races but those on the republican

side-view any vote like this a threat to the second amendment. what happens now? it's unclear. we know the official business of the house is on hold until july 5th. it's what they call a district work period. some call it recess, some call it vacation in a more critical way where house districts go home to their home districts and do work there, make appearances and will answer questions about this. i just spoke to debbie wasserman schultz, democratic chairwoman, she's going to take a nap for a little while. that's one thing many members are trying to do. when can they get a little sleep, when can they get back on the floor. how long will this go? unclear. the passion seems to be very strong. that might suggest this could be going on for a while. >> as you point out now they are adjourned until after fourth of july. keep us posted there if you will, thank you. joe, whatever side you're on, this is an extraordinary scene at the house where you served. if you're paul ryan, the speaker, how do you manage the

scene? >> by not showing up. it's one of the things that's amazing to me that paul ryan decided to go back out there at 10:00 and be the face of the republican party. he could have sent anybody out there. i'm not sure why he sent him out there because he's going against 92% of americans who want increased background checks to stop terrorists and domestic abusers from getting their hands on guns. he's got 85% of republicans against the position that he's taking. and all those people holding those bills up are asking for is a vote. willie, that seems pretty cut and dried to americans who don't know parliamentary procedures in the house of representatives. it looks like paul ryan because he put himself there, looks like paul ryan is ploking a vote -- blocking a vote on a 90/10 issue. the majority of gun owners,

majority of republicans, majority of nra members support increased background checks. >> let's go to capitol hill. deputy whip for republican conference congressman tom cole of oklahoma. congressman, good to have you with us. as always, why not just hold a vote on these two issues, the two bills proposed on background checks and on the watch list? >> well, first of all, of course, congress actually did vote on these issues. >> the senate did. >> on monday. why in the world would you vote in a h on a measure that did not house in the senate so cannot become law. second, actually yesterday, there was a vote in appropriations commit on this. it failed 31-17. a number of democrats actually voting with republicans. so there have been votes. this was all about, as the speaker said, publicity, a stunt. it was, i would say, very disrespectful, very destructive and in the end self-defeating. >> congressman, i understand your concerns and concerns of many gun advocates about due

process on the watch list. we pointed out that john lewis was once on a watch list by mistake. ted kennedy was on a watch list. is there a fix therein to clean up that list so it makes more sense to you. >> there are people who are trying to work on that. you don't do it with stunts on the floor. you do it with serious legislation introduced and usually worked in a bipartisan manner. i think there's some evidence there's an effort under way in the senate to do something like that it's worth noting had any of these laws passed they wouldn't have stopped anything that happened in orlando. that's the sad truth here. the idea there's some magic legislative fix to what's a deep social cultural problem i think is an illusion. frankly i think it's a situation where the democrats have exploited this tragedy for political purpose. it's very unfortunate, particularly when it damages the institution of the house itself. >> sir, looking forward, could you imagine republicans getting behind a bill that went beyond just protecting people -- that

was very proactive, that guaranteed that within 72 hours an individual would receive due process. i understand most people don't know they are on the list until they go to purchase a firearm. can i just ask you, if we had really strong protections for those individuals rights and due processes that let them within 72 hours get before a judge, could you get behind what 85% of americans say they want, which is expanded background checks and for people on this list. the list is very important to keeping us safe. i think we want to protect the list and protect the individuals. could you then support some of this legislation? >> well, it would depend on what the legislation was. yes, if there's something we could pinpoint people that we have a high reason for believe are engaged in terrorist activity, that's one thing. that's the point. we're talking about a list that had congressmen, district attorney's, average americans.

nobody knows how you get on the list. once you're on it, it's very hard to get off of it. it's an incredible invasion of your rights as an individual. >> congressman, are you suggesting then why don't we get rid of the list if it's so bad? i don't understand. why have the list at all? i guarantee if somebody commits an act of terror on that list you and everybody else will say why isn't everybody on that list. >> almost everybody on that list a foreigner and not able to buy a firearm in america anyway. we're talking about a small population of americans on the list. it depends whether you're talking no fly list or terrorist watch list, there's a lot of complexity here. >> maybe we should get rid of it. it's not complex. you're saying this is a terrible list. >> no, i said the number of lists we have are complex. >> just get rid of the list. this is the same argument i hear on background checks.

we already have a background check system and it's terribly flawed so we can't fix it. i don't get it. does the terror watch list serve a useful purpose or not. >> yes, it does. is it 100% -- >> does it make sense, then, if it serves a useful purpose that you do your job as a legislator and senators do their jobs as legislators and make sure it's an even better list so we make sure people on that terror watch list can't go in and buy an p ar-15 and mow down people in oklahoma. >> do you know anybody that did that? wasn't on the list. >> i'm just asking you. no, it's not the point. the point is we're in a war against terrorists who want to kill people in your district, that want to kill people in your state. >> joe, i know something about terrorism. i lived through an incident in oklahoma city. >> i know you lived through terrorism. >> the largest in american history. >> why don't we try to prevent

the next oklahoma city instead of sitting back. >> i think we are trying to prevent next oklahoma city. >> instead of sitting back and acting like this doesn't make sense to stop people on a terror watch list from being able to walk into a gun store and get an ar-15. doesn't that make sense to you? >> of course it makes sense. if the list is accurate. >> good. vote. >> you know how people get on there. we weren't voting on anything remotely like that. by the way senate house appropriations committee did vote. >> this is my point, congressman. fix the list. if you say the terror list makes sense -- >> legislative season, isn't administration -- >> you fund the administration. you have oversight over the administration. you have the power to make sure that that list works right so the people that are on that list should be on that list. >> we'll get a lot of

cooperation from the administration to achieve that. hopefully we will. >> don't fund them. you've got the power of the purse. read the constitution. the constitution gives you the power. >> i think i've read the constitution as often as you can. >> gives you the power of oversight. >> i'm aware of that. >> i understand that, congressman. don't act like you're helpless, you've got the power. >> i don't pretend i'm helpless. i'm not going to vote for bad legislation because it's politically expedient to do. >> i'm not saying you will. the question i keep asking is if the lis is so flawed, why don't you and other congressmen and women make it effective. >> i think that effort is under way. that's not what we were talking about yesterday. we didn't have legislation moving through committee under normal process, administration coming with request to improve the list, we had a political stunt. >> all right. congressman, we love having you

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willie, i know i have a funny way of showing it but tom cole is one of my favorite congressmen. >> i know he is. >> tom is usually an island of sanity in a sea of idocracy.

>> what is the solution that could be brought from government? is there one or is there not? >> tom cole is a good guy, he's been on the show numerous times. he'll be back numerous times. he described what happened in orlando as part of a deep social program. that's an exact quote. you want to say, congressman, what's your solution? but they never answer. they never answer because it's so wrapped up in the top tier of the nra. they are handcuffed to the top leadership of the nra at the expense of ordinary people. >> in our next hour we'll talk to democratic congressman joaquin castro. up next new computer technology that can delete terror propaganda as soon as it's posted. the big question, will social media companies agree to use it.

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it is increasingly clear, however, that the killer took in extremist information and propaganda over the internet. as we know all too well terror groups like isil have called on people around the world and here in the united states to attack innocent civilian. their propaganda, their videos, their postings are pervasive and more easily accessible than we want. >> orlando shooting a long line in terror attacks in which online propaganda suspected of playing a role in radicalization. joining us senior advisers for counter-terrorism and senior adviser dr. fareed. detect internet technology that would prevent terrorist content.

grade to have you with us. so many layers. let's start at the top with what it is, algorithm used in the pennsylvania to detect child pornography and now can be used to detect terrorism. >> we've developed technology that allows social media and technology companies to find and remove terrorist related content. the same technology has been used in the past to remove child pornography from sites. it's a very effective technology. it works fully automatically. it's official, accurate and allows technology companies to effectively enforce what is already in place, which is their terms of service. this content is not allowed on the network and we are simply creating for them a mechanism to enforce that in an automatic, efficient and accurate way. >> you point out this is something they are doing already in a manual way, a whac-a-mole way, waiting to support.

>> you don't have to do it manually. the problem with manually, a post comes up, stays online a while. somebody reports it, it comes down and pops up over here. we're saying once you've removed it you have technology to never allow it back. >> what's the pushback then. >> you have to ask them that. i don't understand what the pushback is. >> how does it work and how does it define -- what's the definition? >> that's the right question to ask. so the way the technology works is every image, every video, every audio has a distinct signature that we can extract from it. it's a lot like human dna. as you age, as you grow older, change your clothes, get your haircut you have a distinct signature. digital media has that similar type of distinct digital signature that we can extract out so when an image comes in, we flag it as child pornography, extremism, calls to violence. we extract the signature and scan everything that comes in and compares it against that signature.

when we get a hit, that content is not allowed online. >> the white house came out and said she supported this technology. it's free. do you see the white house being involved in trying to push the technology companies to use this? >> the role of the government here would be terrific as a broker. as an honest broker to bring in the academics, ngos and technology companies together and create a sense of urgency. i can see them being a very important partner in this. at the end of the day, technology companies need to decide we no longer want this on the network. it's harmful for society and for the world and we should eliminate it. you will hear slippery slope arguments that if we do this we'll eventually ban videos of kittens. >> which they made over child porn which is stunning. >> when we were deploying the child pornography technology, we heard the same concerns. we're not talking about stifling speech or stifling dissent. we are talking about taking off

videos that show violent beheadings, calls to violence. these are extreme as we call, the worst of the worst. we absolutely should have dissent on the internet and discussions on the internet but there's no place in my mind of pictures and videos of young children being sexually assaulted and of people having their head chopped off. that's where we reasonably can draw the line. >> facebook organized a meeting, a private meeting to talk about your idea back in april. if you listen to the reports, everyone was skeptical of the idea. they all questioned your idea. what are we missing here? >> i don't know. when we were talking about this eight years ago in the child pornography space, we heard the same concerns. there was skepticism. we don't know how to define it. it will get in the way of our business model. we have now deploys what's called photo dna that filters child pornography world wide. it's been running live for six years. as far as i can tell, the internet is fine.

facebook is fine, twitter is fine, everything works just fine. i don't really buy the argument. that's not to say we shouldn't have serious conversations about wat does and does not constitute extremist speech. we have to have a serious conversation about that and have all the players at the table. but once we decide, and we are not telling facebook what to take down. we're saying you should be aware this content is on your network and you as an organization have the right to decide what violates and what does not violate terms of service. >> a fascinating idea. let's hope it starts moving your direction. >> dr. farid, thank you. we'll look at another cutting edge technology that makes it possible to edit dna. "time" magazine says it's implications for all of humanity. that's coming up. also ahead, this morning, british prime minister david cameron already up and voting. we'll go live to london ahead of the historic brexit vote. donny votes remain. we'll be right back. there are two billion people

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medici medicine. donald trump uses poor people around the world to produce his line of suits and ties. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it's great to have you here this morning. willie, it's very interesting. good morning. it's very interesting. there you had donald trump prepare a speech. deliver a speech. have a planned line of attack, and even at times be hopeful, "the new york times" talking about him talking about breathing new life into america's industries and creating a second industrial age. and there you have hillary clinton defending the clinton foundation. much, much different than things have been in the past. very interesting day yesterday. fascinating things unfolding today on the floor. house floor. historic and, of course, brexit in england right now which i mean, we've got a lot to cover.

and very little bit of time to get there, willie. they only give us three hours. >> you keep asking for that fourth hour. they just won't go there. just kidding. joe, good morning. it's thursday, june 23rd. mika has the morning off. with us on set, former communications director for george w. bush, nicolle wallace, msnbc contributor, the legend mike barnicle. they're not booing. they're saying legendary. >> it's not age. >> political writer for "the new york times," nicholas compasori and renowned ad man donny deutsch is here. >> i think you should protest that. >> and washington anchor for bbc world news america, katty kay. the word of the day is brexit. we'll get to that historic vote in a moment. joe? >> what did you think yesterday, willie, of first of all trump and clinton's response to trump. i thought it was fascinating.

>> on the sliding scale of trump as professional political candidate, that was a pretty professional speech. he had a message. i thought one of the best days he's had on the campaign trail. he did drift as it went on into some of the conspiracy things. the one line where he said i'm for her is her slogan and i'm for you, that sounded like something that you'd get together in a room and say this should be our message. >> yeah, i thought that was a great moment and i was here for the live coverage of it. and it ended and katy tur started analyzing it as though it was a normal politician delivering a normal speech. i could tie my head in a knot. wait, you have to judge trump on a 24-hour spectrum. i took on the mission of watching all night. what was more impressive than the speech, which was very well crafted and well delivered, was that he managed to get through the rest of the day without stepping on his own message. and that was the test that republicans were looking at him to see if he could pass.

i think he passed the performance test. he also passed not stepping on his own message. >> no doubt about it. donny deutsch, what was so fascinating is yesterday he gave the speech and after he gave the speech, some people came to him on the campaign and said, hey, listen. you've got several interviews that are scheduled throughout the day, like he does every day. why don't you just let your speech speak for itself and donald trump for the first time in the campaign said, okay. and he did. so we're talking about a planned speech that smart people help put together, instead of something he said off the top of his head at 7:34 last night when he was tired. >> i find it astounding that we acted amazed and he gets gold stars for walking and chewing gum at the same time. >> we're not giving him gold stars. make no mistake. make no mistake.

we say he needs to show some discipline and when he shows some discipline, then we go and i heard this all last night. it's amazing. he reads off a teleprompter. >> that's my point. >> he should read off a teleprompter. >> he did not say anything ridiculous. i didn't think his speech -- i thought it was the kitchen sink. and saying that hillary clinton is responsible for all the problems in the middle east. the fact he's getting positive recognition for reading off a teleprompter, for not going off the rails and giving what i thought was a very kind of all over the map kitchen sink, i think we need a higher bar here. >> i don't think anyone -- >> you were. >> i said he passed the test. >> and what is that test? acting like a normal human being? >> $1.3 million in the entire republican leadership had to rebuke him every week for the past few weeks. >> throw his cereal against the

wall. congratulate him. >> here's the most important thing, mike barnicle, when donald trump drives a runaway beer truck with his hair on fire shooting guns wildly with both hands out both windows shouting profanities and insulting everybody in sight, he's tied in pennsylvania and ohio. when he is the worst politician of all time, he's tied in ohio and pennsylvania. and this -- why does this matter? it matters because if he gets on a disciplined game, then suddenly, republicans go, wait a second. and it's already started. i can write a check to this guy. they are raising a lot of money online. you're going to see that in a couple of weeks. it's going to start rolling in. why does it matter that he's acting like a normal human being? because republicans say, hey, i'm glad he's acting like a

normal human being for once. i might write him a check. it matters. let's pretend it doesn't matter. >> that does matter, joe. there's no doubt about it. nicolle edged up to what was going on yesterday in that we have to cover -- it's sort of like trump today. that's the coverage. what does he doed today? does he reverse back today to who he really is? he got a 24-hour reprieve. donny is right in a sense, too. if you look at the text of that speech, what was it about? a torrent of insults toward hillary clinton. very little substance. the substance he did reference, joe, causes him potentially a great division with his republican party. he was talking about rebuilding america. he's talking about a huge jobs program, about things, the america that he remembers, all referenced and built by government roads, dams, canals, all government stuff. he's talking about potential of

spending an enormous amount of government money. >> so guess what, mike? that's called the pivot. he was talking to bern suppo supporters saying you've been let down. these trade deals have let us down. i'm going to bring about a new industrial age. i'm going to bring jobs back to america. and, yes, i will use the power of government to do that. there are a hell of a lot of bernie supporters. a hell of a lot of people from wisconsin all the way through michigan, through ohio and pennsylvania who say that's a message. you look at a pew poll we'll be talking about in a little bit, willie geist, and americans are more divided now than ever before. those republicans are going to vote for trump if he shows them that he's sane. he can afford to move to the center and talk about rebuilding roads and infrastructure and america, bringing jobs back to america. and actually start stealing democratic votes. that's at least the theory of

the case and it's been working now for him for about 12 hours. nobody is overselling this. we're simply stating what happened yesterday, which is our job. >> and that's why i said at the top, it's a sliding scale. we're grading trump on a curve. we'll see if he can maintain this. he had some discipline yesterday. we'll see if he can maintain it. here's a little bit of what he said during that speech yesterday. >> this election will decide whether we are ruled by the people or by the politicians. hillary clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even theft. she ran the state department like her own personal hedge fund doing favors for oppressive regimes, and many others and really many, many others in exchange for cash. pure and simple, folks. the choice in this election is a choice between taking our

government back from the special interest or surrendering, really, the last scrap of independence to the total and complete control of people like the clintons. americans are the people that tamed the west that dug out the panama canal, that sent satellites across the solar system. that built the great dams and so much more. then we really started thinking small. something happened. something happened to our mentality. we started thinking small. we stopped believing in what america could do and became reliant on other countries. other people and other institutions. we lost our sense of purpose and daring. but that's not who we are. >> nick is back. in a story that had some tough

rebuke, tough critiques of trump, she did also say, though it was a more hopeful speech. you certainly get the tone of it there. instead of america is not great anymore, you know, even lines being written in there, that's not who we are. we can build a new industrial age. that is a more hopeful message for americans to digest. >> also, i heard him in that speech really targeting the things that are most vulnerable in hillary clinton and might make him most appealing to middle class voters, jobs programs, infrastructure building, things that republicans are reluctant to touch in a germ election. a lot of americans are worried and skeptical about what they've read about the foundation and donors of the foundation and appointments at the state department. if he can stay in that lane, he can probably do a better job. i'm just wondering, joe, if the

part of trump that has made him successful and fired up people and fired up his insurrection in the party can be undivided from the part of him that can win the whole election. so if he tames it down too much, is he going to lose those people who were so excited to really see his manner and bluntness and sometimes his overbluntness. >> i think that's the real challenge. it's a balance. i personally, again, i don't think a lot of the trump supporters are going to go anywhere for now. the hard-core trump supporters. if they weren't going to go somewhere, they would have had thousands of excuses to do it already. they'll not do it because he's reading a teleprompter, i don't think. katty kay, it's interesting when donald trump is going after hillary clinton, at one point calling her world class liar. he keyed in on something. donald trump, i think donald trump's achilles heel, at least donald trump thinks, is trump

university. hillary clinton's, i really think, is the clinton foundation because there were so many cases where other countries would come talk to her. bill clinton a couple of months later would be getting $550,000 in that country for a one-hour speech. and it just reminded me of a puncher punching somebody where somebody was bruised already. i think they really hit a spot of vulnerability for hillary clinton. and there she was responding just a couple of hours later. >> yeah, but i thought that response was pretty effective, the way she immediately came back and said, listen, donald trump has been selling steaks and wine and water all that stuff we saw on stage behind him in florida, and the clinton foundation has been helping poor people around the world. we haven't had a huge amount because the focus has been so much on the e-mail issue and her time in the state department around the clinton foundation. that may all now come out much

more and donald trump may drive that exposure much more. but so far, i think, most people when they look at hillary clinton and think untrustworthy, what is it we don't like? it's not the clinton foundation. it's the e-mail issue that people are talking about. but i agree with nick. i think there's a tone issue here for donald trump. he read the teleprompter fine. he gave a kind of boiler plate speech but didn't sound like donald trump. he didn't sound like the excited, happy candidate to be out there who loves, you know, bashing people and loves the tone of his own voice. i think this is going to be really hard for him to maintain because it doesn't feel natural to him. >> nicolle, what do you think? >> i think by the same -- in the same way we can't throw a parade for him because he had 45 minutes of messaged discipline, we can't hold him to unrealistic standard of needing him to be all things in every moment. i got passed around a text from

one of the trump supporters in my personal focus group who was thrilled to see him speaking to a script. thought maybe ideally his family was in control. people he works with day in and day out on the business side of his life which is how his brain is obviously wired was an obvious sign. i agree that his supporters, if they haven't walked away because of four consecutive weeks of racism scandals, they'll not walk away because he didn't titillate them yesterday on a teleprompter. still ahead, a look at the double-edged sword of a new technology getting a lot of buzz. it's call crisper and lets scientists edit dna. it's potentially game-changing but controversial. and millions are voting this morning in great britain. with a big question mark in polling it's hard to tell whether they'll remain in the eu or go it alone. first, bill karins with a look at the forecast. >> last night at soldier field we watched the thunderstorms rolling through. they're exiting off the

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take these moments for all they're worth only in minnesota you may not know this. i am from great britain. the people of britain vote tomorrow to decide if they remain part of the european union. now i'm not one to usually get very political. ultimately, we are all in this together. and the more we embrace that, the better our world will be.

and i really hope the people of britain use their vote and go out and vote to remain in the european union. i truly, truly do. look at me. getting all political. i'm not john oliver. >> let's move to the other big story of the morning. any paper around the world, the front page is about brexit. there's the "financial times," "the wall street journal." people in britain heading to the polls today casting their ballots in an historic vote to decide whether or not to remain a member of the european union. voting stations have been open much of the morning. among those casting their ballots, david cameron and his wife samantha. the electoral commission expects to have the results by brack fafts ti -- breakfast tomorrow. keir simmons, any idea how this is going to shake out today? >> good morning.

we know for sure it's once in a generation vote. let me show you some of the front pages of the newspapers here. front page of the popular "sun" newspaper, banner headline, independence day. the front page of its competitor "the mirror," don't take a leap in the dark. that sums it up. it's a bit like britain is considering whether to divorce europe, to divorce the european union. and a bit like a divorce. for some there's a sense that freedom is close, that it's exciting. for others, there's a real fear this could all end in disaster. the "financial times" poll of polls saying now that 48% to 46% of voters are in favor of remaining. it's that tight. even the people who say they know how they'll vote may change their minds and there's a big group who haven't even yet decided. guys, imagine texas voting to leave the united states or at least voting to be able to not

give any money to washington and do its own trade deals. it's not a perfect comparison. but if you imagine a kind of fallout there would be economically, that's a pretty good description of what people are frightened of after this vote if it is a vote to leave the european union. >> we'll know in just a few hours. keir simmons in london, thanks so much. let's go to katty also in london. for our viewers maybe today just tuning in to this. the ups and downs, pros and cons either way of this. >> look, europe's been part of something that's part of the european union for most of my life. and today brits will vote on whether to leave that union. this is not the kind of vote you can reverse. it's not like a general election. in four years time we don't get a chance to do this. what brits decide today will last forever. there's no going back. either we stay in the european union or leave and that will

last forever. the arguments that people who want to leave the european union make is europe is not a strong economy, we'll be better off without it and regain some sense of national sovereign too and national pride. those who want to stay in the european union say that we are stronger if we are part of a big trading bloc and that from a security point of view, and this is really interesting. i've had so much interest in this story from people in washington, people in the white house, former national security advisers who will say it's critical from an american perspective that britain stay part of europe because that makes it part of intelligence sharing, cybersharing. in the battle against terrorism, american officials feel, and this is both democrats and republicans, they are clear they feel that we are better off if britain stays in the european union because it makes the battle against terrorism an easier one for the united states to fight alongside the uk. it's been an incredibly bitter, angry campaign. we'll know in a few hours time which way brits decide. >> katty, i was talking to a

couple of friends from northern england yesterday afternoon. just, how are you going to vote? without having any idea what they were going to say. and it sounded a lot like trump voters in america. they said we're not europeans. germans call themselves europeans. we're brits. we're from britain. we have done enough on immigration throughout our entire lifetime. we've seen immigrants pour in and we've been fine with it. enough is enough. and also financially, they need us a lot more than we need them. what are we getting out of europe. what are we getting out of carrying everybody, and it was a britain first argument that seemed very compelling. they weren't political people. they weren't connected to politics. it was just a gut feeling. i sat there saying this sounds kind of familiar. >> yeah, so interesting, isn't it? i do think there are a lot of parallels between the people who

in america who feel that they want to protest the existing systems, protest against the status quo and that's why they want to vote trump. the feeling that anything is better than what we have and that the existing structures have not benefited us, that feeling is palpable in the uk. it's not brussels, it's not washington but the feeling that anything must be better than what we have. if you feel you've been left behind by forces of globalization, free trade, open borders and immigration, then you want to ikick against the system. we're going to protest now and see what the fallout is later. but anything must be better than what we have. and that's what leave people are feeling in britain and what people are feeling about the trump supporters, too. just ahead, msnbc's ari melber was up late watching house republicans finish the week's business over gun reform over the shouts of democrats. whether the marathon sit-in will change anything or just a house

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unfinished. you can bet your sweet life when the house goes back into session, this fight will be continued. >> minority whip steny hoyer vowing to continue the fight to capitol hill after one of the most dramatic standoffs on the house floor. democrats occupying the floor of the house to force new gun measures. welcome back to "morning joe." joe stepped away for a bit. willie ran across the street and stopped at a food truck. he has another moonlighting job over there. >> you're stuck with us. >> mike barnicle. nicolle wallace and donny deutsch. as we've been discuss, dozens of democrats are hoping to change the rules on guns by breaking the rules in congress. among them joaquin castro of texas who joins us from capitol hill. also here on set, we have author and columnist for the "new york daily news" and my life-long friend, mike lupica and nbc chief legal correspondent, ari

melber who himself has been up all night covering this sit-in. before we get to the congressman, bring us up to speed. what's going on on the house floor? what happened? what is happening? >> basically something unprecedented whether you think it's good or bad. what you had was john llewis, te civil rights icon taking to the house floor that came together fairly recently over the last day or two. and they decided to sit in on the floor and say they are occupying the floor. they were going to disrupt business decorum and violate the rules on purpose to try to force or call for some kind of vote on two of the competing proposals we've heard so much about deal with a no buy list for suspected terrorists. what was different here was, you basically had the attempt to change the rules, violate the rules or just take over. there is no filibuster.

there is no mechanism for this in the house the way you have in the senate. what you saw was an attempt by democrats to try to elevate this from a policy of political debate of which we have many in this country and in the congress and take it to a moral or ethical level. and you saw that in the rhetoric. you saw that in the indication of the civil rights movement, effort to do direct action. i saw this overnight. paul ryan trying to speak to the floor and you had members shouting him down saying shame and waving the signs of victims of gun violence and holding up the photos, and it was a remarkable scene and all of that, i say, with regard to what they were trying to achieve. i must say on the flip side, that there is nothing new about a speaker of the house in either party setting the calendar, running the votes. and if you want to run the votes under the rules you have to win the majority in the house. and it has always been thus. so on the one side you have

democrats saying this is a moral and ethical challenge that we are taking to this level of direct action and protest which was extraordinary. and on the other hand you have this speaker, like any speaker in any party saying, i earned this. i'm the duly elected speaker of the house and i should be able to run this place and i'm not going to reward, what paul ryan showed, i'm not going to reward this. >> congressman, moral, ethical struggle on the one hand. the people occupying the floor of the house. yet the speaker of the house paul ryan came out and base ically said this was a pr stunt. what's your answer to that? >> we've seen mass shooting and massachuset massacre year over . every single time the response from the congress is the same. they do absolutely nothing. and this was the congress and democrats, but also quite frankly, the american people

saying we've had enough with inaction. and so this was a way for democrats to elevate the conversation, highlight the issue and, really, to get republicans to do something about this. and i'll point out also that these pieces of legislation are not just democratic bills. these were sponsored by peter king, a republican from new york. so this is a bipartisan effort. >> congressman, can you accept, though, there might be a little bit of skepticism that instead of focussing -- i understand this to be broken down around the idea of fixing and imparting the due process rights into the list, the people on the terror watch list sometimes don't know they're there. ted kennedy was once on it. if that's the fix, why spend the time on the floor creating a dramatic moment instead of spending the time in a room with this bipartisan group fixing the bill? >> well, that's a great question. and the answer is because they

won't even start the ball rolling and get this legislation going. you're right. the legislation isn't perfect, and there are ways to improve it if we come together. but they don't even want to start that process. we need to go through it and take action. >> congressman, what do you see as the road ahead having taken this stand but the republicans have gone to recess. what happens now through july 5th, and does this sit-in -- was this ultimately a 15-hour event more or less? >> i agree with whip hoyer this will continue when we come back for legislative business july 5th. but more than that, willie, and sadly, there's going to be another shooting again in the united states. and there's probably going to be another one after that, unfortunately. and what is the answer going to be? is the answer always going to be that congress is going to do nothing. we offer moments of silence? as i said last night, silence is not a solution to this. we have to take action. we have to pass legislation.

>> congressman castro, thanks very much. we appreciate your being on "morning joe." i think at last count you've written maybe 3,000 columns on guns in about the last 100 days. are you, like most americans, just sick of the inability of congresspeople to do their jobs? >> there's so many things that struck me about this. one is, paul ryan looked like, what was it, kevin bacon at the end animal house screaming for order and being run over last night. i understand he's doing his job. after the american life john lewis has lived, you don't call what he did, an honorable day of reckoning, a publicity stunt. you have to show john lewis more respect than that. sometimes you have to show more respect than that for the rules of order. this was a huge week in the congress of the united states because at least in those senate votes, people had to raise their hand and stuff that they did will now go on their permanent

record. and nothing is asking -- the biggest lie in american life is if you stand for any gun sanity that you're looking to overthrow the second amendment. that's not just a lie. >> you threw out the name of a republican who -- there are republicans trying to move to the middle of this and protect people's due process. talk about that, though. there is a bill out there that would accomplish both ends, right, protect due process and limit access of people on that list. >> i talked to bill king about his bill the other day. do you think it will ever get to the floor. he said get to the floor? he laughed at me. it will never even make it out of committee. he said i've got a handful of guys stand with me against, what, 247 republican members of the house of representatives. what they look for, they look for crumbs. they just look to take some baby steps towards some gun sanity in this country. and what you saw, what you saw

is the stomach problem that the republican leadership has. they have a severe stomach problem on this as it relates to the nra, which is no guts. >> a little lower in the anatomy. >> what does america want to do? and is america in a different place than the congress typically is and a lot of the media is? there was a tremendous outpouring of interest in this online, on periscope, on facebook live, and we're ten days out of orlando where you had someone who says he's for isis who was under fbi review twice go in and buy a weapon that was created for military purposes, that he used for essentially terror military purposes, and mow down a bunch of innocent people. so while the country is still, i think, deal with that, and we may be in a potential inflection point. it's up to our leaders to figure that out. you see a type of washington reaction and a lot of media reaction says let's move back on to the donald trump and hillary

clinton speech yesterday. in a lot of ways, that's not where the conversation is. as for due process, there's a question for republicans about how much you want to hang your hat on the due process considerations of people who are under suspected terror review. >> which at one time, ted kennedy was on the list. >> there are mistakes on the list. this is not some air-tight list. there's a lot of mistakes and sometimes people don't know when they're on it. >> there's a provision to fix that. >> you are 100% right. same issue in surveillance and any civil liberties. the reason we use the same list for the no-fly list is because terrorists got on a plane with box cutters and they slit people's throats and they drove planes into a building. that is harder to do than to get from that list over to pick up an ar-15 and kill people. there's a security and civil liberties question that has to be measured here. but it is not a close call about whether you'd rather have

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us so many times you'd not seek another term. why change your mind, and why now? >> first, i did change my mind. i never said i was perfect or had all the answers. look, the bottom line is, i feel deeply that no matter who is elected president of the united states, we'll need a senate that has people willing to check and balance them. >> all right. but, nicole, a new quinnipiac poll shows he has a edge over his democratic opponents. he leads patrick murphy. he leads congressman alan grayson. he's got this history of saying, you know, being in the senate is meaningless. >> there was a lot of begging and groveling. mitch mcconnell wants rubio to run. they desperately want to keep that seat in republican hands. and the truth is what's happening at the top of the ticket is putting into jeopardy

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inside the software of the genome and eliminate the lines of code that cause problems, which is great. you can eliminate the huntington's gene and sickle cell anemia gene, but the question is, how do you open the door to unintended consequences. >> on the promising end of it, heart disease, alzheimer's. >> heart disease, alzheimer's, you look for the genetic sequences responsible for this. this is what crispr does. it uses an enzyme called cas-9 like giving the dog the rag of a fugitive, this is what it smells like. go get to it out of the genome. the gene either heals itself or introduce healthier sequences which allow the gene then to repair itself. >> scary part of it, i want a son who can play baseball like mooky betts. >> that's the problem. do you want to get into the world of bespoke babies. well, my grandfather lost his

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>> that does it for us. kristen welker picks up the coverage right now. good morning from washington. i'm kristen welker. we begin with breaking news. chaos in the house. an historic sit-in on capitol hill. house democrats refusing to leave the floor of the house until a vote is taken on gun control. >> we will not be happy. we will not be satisfied. we will not be pleased until we do something in a major way. >> republicans trying to gain control. >> the chair wishes to make an announcement regarding the decorum in the house chamber. >> even adjourning for two weeks, but the democrats refusing to leave. >> no bill, no break. no bill, no break. >> plus, campaign break. a