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we begin with breaking news. the deadly flooding in west virginia, search efforts are under way to rescue people tranded in their homes and cars. more than 100 homes have been destroyed. some torn from their foundations and literally carried away in the flood waters. as 44. counties are under a state of emergency. we're doing to bring you a live report from flood ravaged west virginia in just a few minutes. meantime, more than a million people in britain are having second thoughts about the decision to leave the european union. in fact, 1.1 million people are calling for a second referendum, that is ten times the number needed for the issue to be even raised in parliament. yesterday's decision sent shockwaves through financial markets here in the u.s. all the major indices were down 4%. supporters of brecht, the leave campaigners, hailed the result of british democracy. let's get to matt bradley, good morning to you. what about all of these numbers on that online petition. is that a surprise?
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>> it's not. it's really -- it's appropriate. it's just the kind of saturday morning hangover that afflicts so many people here in britain. but it's also not that surprising at all. numbers are to be believed because the spread in the actual results from the referendum wasn't that wide. we're talking only a little less than 4%. so it's going to leave a lot of people very upset. and if any of the local news reports are to be believed there's a lot of buyers remorse among the leave camp because a lot of people vote with emotion, appealed to with patriotism and then watched the pound lose value, they saw their property drop in value. a lot of that was a realtime realization this was just maybe not the -- not what they thought it was going to be. but here's the thing. i can't really comment so much on the national mood right now because i'm here in cosmopolitan london and this is one of the few places in the uk that went overwhelmingly in favor of remain. that just goes to show how
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divided the country is by gee gra graphy. i can show you the notorious british tabloids that even in the quietist of times is not that shy. k here's the "daily mirror," what the hell happened? here's another one, the brexit earthquake. celebratory to boastful to moaning about the state of this election and how this country and decision seems to have gotten past them. i want to go beyond the headlines a little bit and to some of what's happening in europe. francois hollande says this poses a question to the entire planet. the six original founders of the european union, they're holding an emergency meeting in germany this morning. and they're doing so -- they're already trying to look basically to a post-britain eu. they're moving ahead with that with confidence. and for these european leaders
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what's left for them is not just about shoring up markets and trying to make sure that there's financial stability in europe. they're trying to suppress the insurrections within their own countries, the movements that are also push for brexit like referendums. people are talking about a french referendum called a frexit, of course. they've already seen a vital limb being amputated and trying to see the union from being dismembered. >> you make a good point in london it doesn't necessarily reflect the votes across the country there. a lot of has to do with immigration, the fact is was, it, a 60/40 split to remain versus leave because many immigrants live right there in london. can you categorize the people behind the brexit movement? was there -- is there a description of the classic person who voted for this and how much refugee and immigration fears played into the vote?
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>> yeah, it's a very interesting question because if you talk to people here in london they're going to have some very disparaging, somewhat insulting comments about the people who voted to leave. really when we talk about this as a rural movement, blue collar movement. it happened a lot in cities where there's a post-industrial environment. some of the northern towns that have not benefited from the globalization that the european union promised to so many people. that's really what the problem is. it's a lot of -- it's a very, very similar dynamic to the divisions that are cleving apart the united states right now. i mean, we can really see so many parallels and so many inflexions of that very same rhetoric in what's going on with this brexit. >> okay. matt bradley, thank you so much from right there outside of parliament. appreciate that. >> thank you. let's get to other newspaper headlines about brexit. "the new york times" front page headlines the event, global shocks after upheaval in britain. the lead page features no less than five story on the brexit fallout. over seas, "the daily telegraph"
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devoting the front page to the birth of a new britain. "daily mail "take a bow, britain. the british daily, "the guardian" my says, over and out. and the economic impact here in the u.s. includes the likelihood that the fed will not raise interest rates any time soon which means interest on savings accounts won't be going up either. and as a result of yesterday's market melt down americans with 401(k)s lost an average of just over $3100. after the big vote donald trump happened to be in scotland and said its people got their country back and america could be next. let's go right to katy tur in aberdeen for us. lots of reaction to trump's comments on brexit. what about the expectation for today? >> he's going to be showing up here to his aberdeen golf dmoers an hour, we are told. so far we are told he will not be taking questions on the brexit but he will be giving reporters a tour of his golf
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course. yesterday he praised the folks that decided to leave the eu. it's interesting though that he did it in scotland. scotland is one of the few places including london that voted very overwhelmingly to stay in the eu. now there's talk about another scottish referendum to make the scots leave the uk and rejoin the eu. so causing shockwaves certainly in the united kingdom which may no longer be a united kingdom after this vote. donald trump though going on to say that if the pound devals, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing at least for his business because more folks would show up to turn berry, more overseas tourists. the dollar strengthens against the pound at the moment but there are mounting concerns of a global recession, especially among those who might have their 401(k)s, retirement savings in banks that have european exposure. that goes for not just people who live in the uk or live in the eu but people who live in
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america, people whose banks might be tied to europe. their 401(k)s are threatened by this vote. donald trump also saying that they were appealing here to a sense of nationalism, a sense of pride. also talking about immigration, talking about trade, and that he does see parallels between what happened here and what he's been advocating on the campaign trail. >> i really do see a parallel between what's happening in the united states and what's happening here. people want to see borders. they don't necessarily want people pouring in to their country that they don't know who they are and where they come from. they have no idea. and i think, you know, not only did it win but it won by a much bigger margin than people thought it would. it's always the will of the people. ultimately that wins out. >> and this again, alex, is the tenth property we've been to on the campaign trail that is donald trump's, leaving some of the critics of his to wonder whether this is more of a brand tour than it is a campaign for
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office. many donors, many republican operatives, many republican leaders telling him it was a bad idea to come on this scottish trip. most politicians when they're running for higher office, if they go overseas they're going to meet with other foreign dignitaries, foreign leaders to bolster foreign policy credentials. this was very much an exclusive trip for donald trump's known brand. >> has anyone talked about the fat that donald trump in that press conference was critical of the president? hillary clinton, perhaps you can understand she's running against him for a campaign. but with regard to readers of any ilk going overseas isn't it a general consensus that you don't on foreign soil go after the president? >> reporter: yeah, there's a long tradition of politics stumps at the water's edge. and politicians have abided by that general principle now for as long as certainly i can remember. donald trump though is not a traditional politician. we've seen that over and over
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again. and so the expectation that that rule may apply to his way of thinking isn't necessarily a good idea. we've seen him break tradition over and over. but he did go after president obama saying it was a bad idea for him to influence voters in the uk to advise them to stay in the eu, that he should have stayed out of it and many people reacted negatively to this. he said part of the reason they may have voted to leave the eu is because, frankly, president obama got involved. unclear if that's actually the case but donald trump maintains he took the higher road because he didn't tell anybody which way to vote me said it was up to the will of the people. but the idea that politics stops at the water's edge certainly not what donald trump is thinking. at least yesterday. >> well, again, donald trump breaking a few rules along the way. typically. thank you very much, katy tur in aberdeen. other politics now. new reaction for president obama calling out donald trump for his rhetoric but not mentioning him
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by name. the president made the comments at a fund-raiser in seattle last night. >> we don't have time for charlottens and hatred and we don't have time for bigotry and we don't have time for flimflam, and we don't have the luxury of just popping off and saying whatever comes to the top of our heads. don't have time for that. >> as katy pointed out donald trump expected to visit his golf course in aberdeen, scotland, in the next hour. meanwhile, politico was ultimately fired because of the way he handled the presumptive nominee's comments about the judge case there. back now to the unprecedented damage following the flooding in west virginia. at least 23 people are dead. that includes two children. nbc's morgan radford is joining us again from elkview.
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the situation right there, morgan, can you show us a little bit of what's happening? >> absolutely, alex. authorities have been able to create an emergency evacuation route where hundreds of people have been trapped inside this shopping mall. i want to step aside for a minute and show you the collapsed road that caused all of this damage. they were able to evacuate some people late last night. more are being evacuated this morning because once darkness fell it became unsafe to get the rest of those people out. see all those cars there lined up in front of the big k, that's the kmart. all of those people are still trapped. and they're going to begin force evacuations today if they can't get the rest of them out voluntari voluntarily. as some of the people were able to drive away to their own freedom, the death toll continued to climb. 23 fatalities today. including an 8-year-old boy and a 4-year-old toddler. this while 44 counties across the state still under a state of emergency. and more than 19,000 homes, alex, without any power whatsoever.
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this has been the deadliest flash flood in the u.s. in the past 18 years. na thankfully there are no flash flood warnings in this area today. that's welcome news to the search crews to get the rest of those people trapped to safety. >> so, morgan, as i understand it, the reason they couldn't try to put a temporary bridge of sorts over what's right behind you, that chasm there is because the ground is still moving, so they deemed it to be unsafe. where did they -- what's the area that they did put up this emergency road and were able to get some of these folks out? >> it's actually right here behind this store on the other side of me. they put this temporary road out there where they can now let at least one car at a time come out. but this road as you mentioned behind me, this is all been wet, alex. this place was completely under water. and so it was muddy. it was wet. they couldn't actually close it. and even the first bridge yesterday, it's taken them a few tries to get this right. and that's why people have been
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member of congress have a dramatic step this week to bring attention to the lack of action on gun control legislation. democratic members of the house staged a 26-hour sit-in on the chamber floor wednesday into thursday. the protest was broadcast over social media after c-span cameras were shut down. democrats did not get their vote before the house recessed but sit-in leader and civil rights icon john lewis said they will not be deterred. >> when we've come back here on
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july 5th we're going to continue to push, to pull, to stand up, and if necessary, to sit down. >> let's bring in new york democrat congressman gregory meeks. and with a welcome to you, we saw you right there in the middmid st of things. right behind john lewis has that whole thing got under way. tell me what you achieved. >> well, i think that the message is clear, that there will not be business as usual, that we must have a vote on gun -- you know, making sure if you're on the no-fly list that you can't buy a gun. we want that vote. as well as closing the gun show loophole and buying a gun over the internet. and that you can't silence our voices, that we're not going to a allow the nra, a small segment
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of the united states population, to stymie the voices of over 90% of americans. both democrats and republicans who want these bills voted on. >> representative meeks, where does that disconnect come? you're stating correctly, 80%, 90% of americans want something to be done. how is it that it doesn't translate to the florida of congre -- floor of congress? >> you have to ask the republican leadership that. that's the frustration that we had and why this was an unprecedented moment and why almost this was not something that was engineered by our leadership or anything of that nature. it was a moral imperative led by john lewis who said that if we're going the get in trouble we got to get into some good trouble. let's hit the floors. and i hit the floor and stayed there. and i think that what we're doing now is taking our message, since the republicans left out in the middle of the night, taking our message to the american people throughout our
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districts, both democrat and republican. it should be clear, the bill we want to pass is a bipartisan bill. peter king is the sponsor of the bill. so we want to take it out throughout america the week that we're not in d.c. and then when we get back, as john lewis said, if we don't get a vote, you'll st stem s still see us do some things. >> paul ryan was critical of the democrats and your action there. >> this is nothing more than a publicity stunt. that's point number one. point number two, is this bill was already defeated in the united states senate. number three, we are not going to take away a citizen's due process rights. we're not going to take away a citizen's constitutional rights without due process. that was already defeated in the senate. this is not a way to try and bring up legislation. >> speaker ryan went on to say he was concerned about the precedent, that this action sets in terms of due process. does he have a point? does the disrupt the procedures
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of the house and does it raise obstacles to the entire legislative process? >> it does not. number one, let me say first, to call this a -- john lewis doesn't have time for stunts. john lewis is a man of moral integrity and he understands a lot of individuals when he was going over the bridge, et cetera, said that he shouldn't have done what he did then because it broke with what tradition was, et cetera. well, as he said, sometimes you have to break with what tradition is to do what is right for the people. and that's what he did here. so to say that doesn't make sense to me. number two, at least on the senate side they had a vote and a debate on the issues. what the speaker is doing here is stymieing a debate and vote so that the american people would know where everybody stands. >> that is what congressman lewis, yourself and others, said repeatedly. we just want a vote. so ten days from now, july 5th,
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when the house is back in session, what makes you think you will be successful? >> well, i think that you're going to see extraordinary amount of american people putting pressure on the speaker and others. we urge them to continue to call the speaker and to call and reach out to their representatives no matter they be democrats or republican, to make sure that they know what their feelings are. i think we're seeing an enormous amount of people come july 5th when we're back in washington, d.c., coming to the steps of the capitol saying that we want a vote. and i think that the voices of the people then will have to be heard. you still see debate taking place on the senate side. why in the peoples house, which is supposed to be the house of representatives, we are not having a debate on issues that are most important to all of the people of the united states? so i think that our movement forward with the support of the people behind us and, again, democrats and republicans on this issue, from the people will compel and we'll have to do what we have to do and strategize as
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john lewis has indicated on what our next steps are and what we do. >> representative meeks, i do want to ask you a question about the brexit vote. i know you said on both the financial services as well as the foreign affairs committee. i'm curious if you see any concern with the withdrawal of britain from the eu effecting jobs and economic growth here in the u.s. >> i'm very concerned. i'm the ranking democrat on the european subcommittee on the foreign affairs committee. so i've been following this very closely by the way closer than the republican presidential nominee. but at any rate, this is -- we're unchartered waters. it's very worrisome. elections do have consequences. so what will take place here, you know, you see i immediately related it to the scenario that i had on the floor when we had to deal with the banks in our country. we had a vote and we were able to save it so that we didn't
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lose more jobs and the stock market didn't go crazy, et cetera. but you see what's happening economically now. unchartered waters. what's going to happen tomorrow? i don't know. i hear companies thinking about moving and it's going to have a district affect on their economy. you saw the value of the pound go down to record lows. so it's -- it's uncertain times. >> new york democrat representative gregory meeks, always good to see you. thank you so much for your time. >> great to be with you, alex. is hillary clinton's e-mail trouble keeping bernie sanders from ending his campaign? that's next.
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bernie sanders who is all but conceded the democratic nomination says he will vote for hillary clinton but stopped short of endorsing her. >> are you going to vote for hillary clinton in november? >> yes. i think the issue right here is i'm going to do everything i can to defeat donald trump. >> have you accepted the arithmatic of the race and she's
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likely to become the nominee, why not withdraw from the race? >> why would i want to do that when i want to fight to make sure that we have the best platform that we possibly can? >> with me now, amy parn, senior white house continue for the hill and co-author of the hillary clinton biography "hrc" and reporter for real clear politics. thanks for joining me this morning. >> good morning. >> amy, is the clinton camp getting tired on having to wait him out on suspending his campaign? >> some people are saying, yes, please, for the love of god get out of the race. others are saying let him take his time. let him sort of do his thing. they say that hillary clinton had that time. they're sort of letting him kind of get there and make peace with his failed candidacy. he ran a good campaign, they say, but they're giving him this time. and you know, but i think there is some pressure on him right now to sort of come to terms with it. i don't think there's going to be much movement on the platform
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even though he wants to see more movement. you know, but i think from the hillary side they're see that his supporters are coming over, they're seeing a softening. there's not too much pressure right now. >> i'm curious your latest article, amie, about an ap report with respect to the hillary clinton questions. andrea mitchell asked brian fallon about it yesterday. >> during the years when he was secretary of state there were multiple literations of her schedule made available for different purposes. there was a public schedule that was made available to the media every day, there was an internal schedule made available to employees within the state department, and then there was a schedule sort of quick and dirty schedule provided for her to carry around on her person every day. of course there's going to be discrepancies across the different versions but all versions are now public so people in a totality can see the meetings she had during her years as secretary of state. this is just another example in
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terms of level of detail in terms of her schedule now out there. >> is there conventional wisdom that sanders is at least in part still holding out because of hillary clinton's lingering e-mail issues? >> i think it's -- some people think that. there are obviously conspiracy theories he's hanging on for one last hope. but i think it's more -- it does sort of hammer home the problem that he sort of tried to portray about her, that there are trust issues around her and every time there's a story like this about her, about, you know, missing schedules, missing things on her schedule and e-mails that haven't been released, it sort of hammers home the idea of can you trust the clintons. i think that's something that she still needs to work on to solidify his supporters in particular. >> so, caitlyn, on the trump campaign after the cory lieu want dow ski firing you said that it restarts his campaign. meanwhile, here's his reaction to the brexit vote yesterday. >> i think it does show something about the people wanting their country back.
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i can tell you in the united states the people want their country back. in the united states people want smart decisions, not dumb decisions. and we've been given dumb decisions for many years and the people are tired of it. and i have a feeling the same thing has happened over here. >> so some people believe that the brexit vote could help donald trump who has used this vote as vindication for his own platform, that being of a robust nationalism and immigration crack down. what's your take? >> there certainly are some parallels to be drawn between that vote and what's going on here. certainly that populism that's running through -- coorsing through the electorate right now, immigration, foreign policy decisions that affect immigration, the economy, and so forth. so there are those parallels there. and trump can certainly at least he feels like he can gain momentum from that. the issue though is that, you know, he went to scotland to
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promote his hotel, so it kind of -- sorry, to ro moat his resort, so he happened to be there at the moment. scotland, of course, is one of the view areas that voted overwhelmingly against leaving the eu. and he talked about how the decline in the value of the pound is a reaction to market instability, would be good for his business. that's something that democrats can certainly pounce on and they have. so saying that, you know, sure, these tones have been -- these notes have been something that trump has been talking about, but they'll raise questions about how he actually handles these events. >> in fact, caitlyn, trump is perceiving the brexit vote is a reflection of a movement under way here in the u.s. is that conventional wisdom in d.c. or is he off base? >> well, i think supporters of trump and the trump campaign will certainly take note of that and i do also think that democrats and the clinton campaign are taking heed of the vote in terms of kind of what it
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means, what the signals coming out of europe but also out of the voters here. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren have been talking about really hitting economic populism no notes. when they're campaigning, warren will be campaigning with hillary clinton in cincinnati on monday. i think they'll take heed of that. but again, i think they will be wise to raise questions about whether trump has the answers in terms of economic stability and, you know, the temperament and such to run a campaign. >> let's talk veep stakes, amie. lots of talk of tim kaine has risen to the list. is that what you're hearing? >> it's been what i'm hearing. clinton aides are whispering that he is the top choice at this point. he was the top choice for then senator obama in 2008 and a lot of democrats think he's a good idea. i think on the heels of this
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brexit vote it's sort of giving the clinton campaign a little pause. they want to sort of take the temperature of what's happening overseas and kind of make a decision there. so you know, that could kind of guide her a little more left than they might like because they do want to sort of capture all of this outside movement and momentum. i'm curious to see how that plays out exactly. >> caitlyn, from the gop side, cory lewandowski, says there are four names on the trump's vp list. >> some names that have been float rd people like chris christie, the new jersey gov fer who has been a supporter of trump. also people like bob corker, the senator from tennessee who has foreign relations experience and has met with trump at trump tower recently. there are also -- there's also talk about people like mary fallon and questions about whether trump would be best served by having a woman on the ticket. what we do know is that trump
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has said that he will want someone with political or governing experience to kind of counter balance his role, so to speak, as an outsider and businessman. so we don't really know really who is being -- who is really going to be in the running at this point but those are some names that have been talked about. >> i've also heard chris christie as a potential chief of staff. that's another one i've heard. >> right. >> caitlyn, amie, thanks so much. we do have breaking news to note for you. this roaring wildfire near los angeles is threatening 1,000 more homes. hmmmmmm..... hmmmmm... [ "dreams" by beck ] hmmmmm...
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in the erskine fire. new video coming to us from overnight showing how the fire has charred entire neighborhoods near lake isabella. 1500 homes more are at risk. nbc's godi schwartz. are there any estimation of when crews are going to get a handle on it? >> good morning shs alex. the biggest factor here is definitely the wind. the winds pick up in the afternoon and it turns this fire into an absolute fire storm. the people that we talked to in this neighborhood that has been absolutely devastated say that up on the ridge there, they saw the fire coming down and the next thing they knew their homes were exploding in flames. take a listen to one woman describe what happened before she lost everything. >> it didn't seem that bad at first, so we just kind of took it casually.
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within like five minutes, it was over the hill and a house two doors down, the tanks were going off and, yes, we had like no time to get out. so we lost everything. >> you didn't have time to grab -- >> we grabbed our dog, our important papers. that was about it. >> that woman joins more than 100 people who have lost their homes in this inferno. last night more flare-ups and more homes lost. nearly 20 miles away from where this fire first started. today we're learning more about the two people killed. we understand they were an elderly couple like so many in this retirement community. they may have been trying to get away when they were overcome with smoke. now crews are combing through the debris, combing through the damage to see if there are any other casualties. and given the size and the scope of this fire and all the damage that we are seeing, it could take quite a bit of time. alex? >> gadi schwartz, thank you so much from southlake. britain's decision to leave the european union is having a ripple affect, both for the
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democratic candidates and president obama. nbc's kristen welker is at the white house with more on the 2016 race. good morning, kristen. >> hi, alex. president obama and hillary clinton had both expressed their op poise to brexit, stressing the need for consistency and trade and foreign policy. the vote didn't go their way. so their strategy now, have a stiff upper lip and take aim at donald trump. as global markets cratered friday. >> stocks getting thattered today. the dow jumped 611 points. >> reporter: president obama's message, keep calm and carry on. >> one thing that will not change is the special relationship that exists between our two nations. that will endure. >> reporter: but britain's vote to leave the eu is a clear defeat for the president. mr. obama took a risk by campaigning against it and hillary clinton also opposed the leave a effort. but in this video her campaign donald trump for suggesting at turnberry, his new golf resort in scotland, that market volatility could be good for his
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business. >> when the pound goes down, more people are coming to turnberry. >> reporter: clinton's team using the moment to draw a sharp distinction over her experience versus trump's. >> the voters are going to decide that hillary clinton is the leader they want to take us forward and navigate this continued unexpected developments on the world stage. >> reporter: but the british exit could spell trouble for clinton, if the u.s. economy stalls voters might be more willing to give the white house to the other party. on friday a mixed message from bernie sanders. sanders said the vote confirms his argument, the global economy isn't working for everyone. and yet, for the first time, sanders revealed he will vote for his former rival. >> are you going to vote for hillary clinton in november? >> yes. i think the issue right here is i'm going to do everything i can to defeat donald trump. >> reporter: but some democrats are privately worried. the british exit underscores a stronger than expected populous zeal here at home. >> the brexit vote is quite clearly better for donald trump. in the broadest sense.
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populi populism, a resistance to immigration into the country, anger at institutions. >> reporter: and with sanders still in the race, clinton is working hard to rally the populous in her own party. she's expected to speak publicly for the first time about the vote tomorrow in indiana. al election, back to you. >> on the heels of that report, let's bring in republican strat jisz hogan. good morning to you. i'm going of paraphrase a bit of what donald trump has been saying here for a minute that people want to have, in a sense, independence, you see it with europe, you see it all over europe. you think you're going to have this happen more and more, really believe it's happening here in the united states. is it accurate to compare what's going on politically in the uk to what is going on here? does the brexit vote predict a trump victory? >> i wouldn't go as far as to say that it predicts a trump victory. but it doesn't mean he's going to win but it means he's got a winning message. it's pretty obvious with the rise of someone like bernie sanders, which has been by all
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accounts a massive movement throughout the democratic party. the rise of donald trump, a movement in it on right on the republican side. what we've got, large groups of americans who have just been left behind. you see some of that mirrored in brexit. those folks are furious at the open border policy, they're furious that the elites and the establishment make decisions that only benefit the wealthy and the rich and don't help the middle class, they don't help the worker. you see it in britd tan. you saw it in the result and culmination of years of anger. you see it here. wage stagnation in this country for 30 years. you're talking about 60,000 manufacturing plants have closed, 5.5 million jobs have left. it is horrible overseas and it's not good here either and that's what bernie sanders and donald trump have tapped in to. people are angry and they're frustrated with the establishment and the establishment sadly for democrats is embodied by hillary
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clinton. >> all right. before i get to a little bit more stateside here about delegates, i understand we have a picture, this is a live picture in aberdeen, scotland, right near mr. trump's golf course. there are protesters and the american flag, people protesting donald trump's stance on immigration and they have taken the mexican flag to heart and have been demonstrating with that over in scotland many times before today. but let's get to stateside what's happening. the delegates unbound. that is spending $70,000 on a new ad campaign. that's pushing republican delegates to, quote, vote their conscien conscience, turn on trump. do you think it can accomplish anything at this point? we've got less than a month before the convention. >> probably not. i spoken to several people on the rules committee. let's remember this. a delegate position is a very coveted spot. but delegates don't get to vote their conscience. they have to vote by rule, by gop law, basically.
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how their state voted. they don't have a choice to go in there and change things up. >> wait, can't they -- can't the rules be changed though before the convention? >> they can, but there are 121 members on that rules -- excuse me, yeah, 121 members on the rules committee. you have to have 57 -- excuse me, 112. 57 to vote to change that rule. to be a little wonky here, 28 people in that rules committee can put forth a motion to take it to the floor but you're telling me you're going to take it in front of thousands of folks and they're going to just change the rules to allow someone else to become the nominee after a record-setting 14 plus million people voted for donald trump? i just don't see that happening at all. and the folks i've talked to on the rules committee say that this really movement, so to speak, to try and let people vote their conscience and change those rules is not getting any traction and it's not sustainable and won't make a real impact on the convention. but let me make one quick point
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as you showed those live shots of turnberry and the mexican flags in is why trump is going to do well and why he's on the winning side of this message. when you see people like that and burn american flags and wave mexican flags, they've done it in protests of donald trump here in this country, it only bolsters his argument that no one is focusing on the american people. no kun is trying to help the american people. they're focused on globalism, on helping other countries. that's why people are so angry and why they're coming out to vote for bernie sanders and for donald trump. >> with all due respect i'm going to say that is one interpretation of what those mexican flags might mean. that said, quickly, the options left to anti-trump republicans, hogan. look, as you said, 14.5 million people have cast their vote. populous vote is supporting donald trump as the gop nominee. so it was also said earlier on the broadcast you can't replace something with nothing. is a lot of the problem is that there's nobody else who can step into the void? >> yeah, but i'm not sure there is a void.
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i know what the people are saying -- >> the void trump would leave, that void. >> oh, if he left, i don't know. i mean, i don't know what you -- what would you replace it with? by rule as we talked about before states to be put up for nomination. they could change the rule but you think people are angry now, wait until you go to cleveland and try to change that rule to put somebody in who has received zero votes, for example. let's say they put all paul ryan. he hasn't received a single vote from anybody. at this point saying the types of things a lot of establishment republicans are saying, you're no longer deriding donald trump you're mocking the american people who put this guy in the position to become the nominee of the republican party. to the tune of record-setting votes as you just mentioned. i mean, far surpassing what mitt romney was able to do. let's not forget. donald trump has done this in a field that was way more crowded than one mitt romney had to face and way more well funded. romney was the only one who had money. it still took him a while to
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secure the nomination. donald trump did it much quicker and with more votes and by spending less money and against a tougher field. >> go figure. there you have it. hogan gidley, thank you very much from columbia, south carolina. some of the world's richest people are licking their financial wounds after the brexit market melt down. that is next. le medications, does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications. but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene, available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel. biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. remember, while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isn't. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth. i accept i'm not the rower i used to be. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem.
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you want into your country. and people that you don't want or people that you don't think are going to be appropriate for your country or good for your country, you're not going to have to take. >> that is donald trump reacting to brexit. joining me now erin elmore, trump supporter and former contestant on "the apprentice." i want to talk about yahoo! columnist rick newman who writes today, i'm going to read part of it. attend he write, anybody hearing trump praise brexit will wonder why he's endorsing a policy that promptly turned a strong economy into a weak one. do you have any concern that mr. trump support of brexit could turn into something that backfires on him? might be a costly one. >> i actually think the opposite. you know, hillary clinton and both barack obama have spoken out and they're out of touch with the world and misspoke. brexit, people voted for this. they voted to take their country back. and that's very similar to what the american sentiment is. they want to break great britain
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great again. donald trump spoke in favor of this. it works in that country and it's the same movement happening here and that's why donald trump is successful. >> have you heard buyer's remorse of those that have cast their votes over well over a million people have said they need to have a do over. asking parliament to consider another referendum. >> oh, goodness. would not be good for the dow. but i hope it doesn't happen. it would be too chaotic for the economy. >> do you think donald trump considered the possible backlash at all before he backed the brexit so strongly? does he think about consequences of what he says in general? >> i think he does. but what are the consequences thus far? he came out on the right side of this discussion and hillary clinton and barack obama did not. >> what about the firing of cory lewandowski, is that a rebrand on trump's support? are we going to see a different trump? >> we already have. you know, cory did a great job getting through the primaries. 16 other candidates and with cory at his side he defeated them all. we are now galluping forward into the general election.
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