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everything. we have new reaction from donald trump on britain's historic vote to leave the european union. trump spoke to reporters just a short time ago at a golf course this scotland, even after he said he won't be taking any questions. and here's part of what he said. >> obama said that back of the line, everybody goes to the back of the line. now he comes out and says something different. i think his signal was a very bad signal for the uk. i think they have to get their act together and make it work. but they want to have their own independence. they want to be independent and that's what it is. but this is an amazing place, an amazing country. and it's going to be very successful ultimately. they want to be able to -- they want the people they want to come in. i think it's a lot of other people are going to follow. i mean, i believe you'll see -- i'm the one who said this was going to happen, i believe you'll see other people doing the same thing. >> nbc's katy tur has been following the trump campaign.

she's in scotland where mr. trump just made remarks. katy, another good day to you. what else did he say? >> reporter: you know, it was a surreal day here at trump's aberdeen golf course. there's not really a better way to describe it. he took reporters from hole to hole on his golf course answering questions the whole way. there was the 10th, 13th, 14th and finally the 18th. we were asking him multiple times about brexit, trying to clarify his comments yesterday about how he thinks the pound going down would be a good thing for his business. he said and clarified and went further and said, yes, it would just not only be a good thing for my business but could potentially help others although he said he wouldn't want to see anybody have financial harm. he was also talking about how he believes brexit again is good for the uk voters, them taking back their independence. i asked him specifically though about americans who might be worried about their retirements, about their 401(k) savings,

banks that have european exposure, many of them in the u.s. and donald trump said that americans should not be affected by that. on the 18th hole i asked him that again, i said it could be quite surreal for some americans, some jarring for some americans to watch you going from golf hole to golf hole while there's a financial crisis going on around you. and he said that he had very good timing being here because he was able to comment on it. i asked him again what exactly would he do, what exactly would he say to ease concerns, to ease the worry about the markets. and donald trump said he would do many, many things if he was president, but didn't elaborate much on that. and then went onto break that tradition of politics stopping at the water's edge continuing to trash president obama for he thinks getting involved in the eu referendum by telling british voters that they should not leave the eu. there is more news to come on

this, alex, i can only imagine -- i can only say that there will be very many headlines coming in the near future. we're just trying to turn the video around. again, just -- what can i say, a surreal day. >> and i'm not going to ask you to try to get inside the head of donald trump. goodness knows i wouldn't do that, but i would like to see what you think the logic was for taking you from hole to hole to hole. i mean, just by the landscape it doesn't look like you're seeing dramatically different landscape from hole to hole. i mean, what was it about? >> reporter: well, this was a tour of his golf course. the very beginning of today one of the women who runs this course said donald trump will be taking reporters on a tour, but he wouldn't be answering questions other than questions about the golf course. that of course did not happen. but he was very -- he's very proud of this golf course. and he wanted to show it off. this is a course that has been steeped in quite a bit of controversy. the locals aren't particularly happy to have it here. he's got a guy named michael forbes who refuses to sell him his land. it's right over there.

the man has been raising the mexican flag in protest. he also promised thousands of jobs and the local officials here say he didn't make good on that promise of thousands of jobs at this golf course. so the trump campaign and donald trump himself, i guess maybe not the trump campaign, but the candidate trying to get a little bit of exposure for this golf course telling us reporters that he's very proud of his son and he came here just for the day in order to support him. >> can i ask you too, i mean, you've been traveling with the same pack throughout, they're political reporters for the most part. was there someone there from golf magazine or travel and leisure magazine? was it obvious this was definitely a show for the qualities of this new resort that he's got? >> reporter: the golf channel was at turnberry, and they interviewed him. and i believe that there are some golf-related news organizations here, but for the most part these are campaign

reporters here. and it's local press from scotland. local press down from london or the uk. many of whom just wanting to see donald trump in the flesh, find out what his reaction would be to the brexit vote. of course this is auspicious timing for him to be here during yesterday when the results came in. so there's curiosity surrounding donald trump. it's not always going to be golf related or purely subject related reporters that come because he's an international figure. he's an international figure known to make news and one who could say anything at any time. >> okay. well, i'll let you get on with your somewhat surreal day and look forward to seeing you again. katy tur, thank you. other political headlines, a pro hillary clinton super pac adding pennsylvania to the list of battleground states with a big tv ad worth $10.5 million. parties usa announced this ad buy after financial markets closed yesterday. the ads will begin airing on july 5 9, that makes pennsylvania the ninth state where the super pac is spending

millions of dollars to defeat donald trump. meanwhile, the republican effort to deny trump the nomination is escalated. a class action lawsuit was filed by a delegate from virginia at the same time an ad comparing president ronald reagan speeches to trump's comments is set to air across national cable networks tomorrow. let's take a listen to that. >> the use of force is always and only a last resort. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> vice president joe biden is now calling out donald trump by name for his rhetoric. in fact, here's what he told reporters in dublin, ireland, following the brexit decision. >> i've traveled over million, 200,000 miles now on behalf of the president meeting with heads of state and speaking all over the world. and they're worried that is this the new face of america. and it's not. the vast majority of the american people do not agree with donald trump's xenophobia. look, we've gone through these periods before, but we always come out the other side.

we always come out the other side. and we will this time too. >> joining me now gabby, political reporter for washington examiner and my colleague joy reid, host of "a.m. joy" on air for a couple hours leading up to this. gabby, i'm going to start with you. mr. trump perceives this brexit vote as reflecting movement here in the united states something he'll benefit from. what's the conventional wisdom in d.c. about this? >> well, there is a lot of spillover and parallels we're seeing. a lot didn't expect british citizens to vote the way they did, similar to how a lot of pundits, people, political insiders didn't expect republicans and independents to vote overwhelmingly for donald trump in the gop primaries. and, you know, a lot of the working class british citizen who is have since done interviews and explained why they voted to leave the eu have said they didn't feel they were reaping the benefits promised to them when the uk entered the eu. and that's a sentiment that donald trump is capitalized on here in the u.s.

people feel as if they're not receiving what they were promised to begin with. so there are some parallels here. that's why you're seeing donald trump now tell voters that they can have their own type of brexit in november if they decide to vote for him. >> so then, joy, how does the clinton campaign try to counter that? anything donald trump might get from this brexit vote. >> what's interesting is when i was looking at the demographics of great britain and in this vote, the demographics of great britain are kind of like the demographics of u.s. midterm election, older and wlihiter. the youth vote was 70 or better to remain. so you kind of had an older cohort of britains sort of pining for the past, pining for the pre-eu days in the same way polls show trump voters tend to be older, whiter and tend to be pining for the past, for the '50s for an america that's bygone. interesting thing there are also some diametric opposites. in britain what they did in

response to the collapse of the world economy was austerity. they cut health services, they cut health care. they cut the things that particularly older britons had come to rely on for years and really rely on the trade for the eu for their own, but i don't think it's an exact parallel. one other thing i'd say is what you talked about with katy. imagine mitt romney in 2012 giving reporters a tour of bain capital and talking about how the election could enrich mitt romney and the romney family. just imagine that for a second. this is unprecedented. we've had capitalists, you know, sort of titans of industry attempt to be president before, i've never seen anything like someone who doesn't suspend their personal business life for the presidency. it's a public service that you're trying to do to be president, right? >> right. >> it seems to be looking at the run for president as a marketing opportunity.

>> don't you think that plays right into hillary clinton's hands. >> absolutely. >> says temperamentally unfit to be president. >> yes. >> i heard you talking about it on your show how we are in unprecedented uncharted waters, we've never been anywhere like this. so does it really matter this election year? >> you saw that focus group that was incredible. but peter heart did this great focus group in pennsylvania talking to voters in a weird way because boris johnson is a super wealthy guy, farage is a super wealthy guy, so is donald trump. in a strange way a lot of people who are broke themselves, broken by the economy sort of look at rich people as having this magical answer. even when he's aus ten tashsly flaunting his wealth sort of in a way throwing it in their faces, for a lot of voters they say that just means he can bring jobs. >> so what what we know happening in the wake of the brexit vote we have over a million people signed a petition that parliament must pay attention to much like here in the u.s. if you get 100,000 signatures, they have to pay attention to bring this up and discuss it. a million people have said

buyers remorse, we want to do this over again. we got to think about. how much do you think that could be a precursor were donald trump to get into the white house people going, uh-oh, wait a minute, maybe that wasn't the best decision. >> yeah, well, i don't think we're going to see a lot of google spike searches after donald trump if he is elected president. >> like who is this guy. >> people are very much aware of what they're getting themselves into if they do choose to vote for him in november. so i don't see a lot of buyers remorse among republicans, but then again you know in the direction this country is headed now and the threats that we're seeing, even the things that are happening overseas in the middle east especially, you have no idea what donald trump is going to do. at least with hillary clinton, and this is a point made time and time again, voters know what they're going to get with hillary clinton because she's always stuck to policy. she's outlined what her positions are, how she would behave in this instance. with donald trump we don't know. it's very uncertain. very unclear. >> and i think that, you know, the good news for the clinton

campaign if there is good news out of this sort of global horror that the brexit has unleashed is that now american voters are going to get another six months to look at what happens when a trump-like candidate boris johnson could become prime minister, when a trump-like program is enacted. and as they see the regrets of britons, as they see people go, oh, my god, this is hurting us. i think it actually could not only give pause to some american voters who are flirting with the idea of donald trump casually, but i think it also really makes you ask yourself who do you want in the white house dealing with the potential global economic chaos that we're seeing unleashed? do you want the guy who didn't even talk about brexit for the whole press conference that he -- he's in scotland, and then implied scotland had voted to brexit when it was the opposite. he doesn't seem to understand anything about the world at all. or do you want somebody who you may not be impassioned about her, but she's a grown-up and understands the world and ready to be president.

i think that's what the clinton campaign will argue. >> can i ask the announcement of the clinton campaign, not the campaign but priorities usa announcing $10 million ad buy in the state of pennsylvania, how much do you think had toot with the timing of brexit or something on the counter they were putting out yesterday to begin with. >> i think the priorities usa folks already had a plan of a rollout, but i think brexit definitely sharpens the mind and i think you'll start to see groups like priorities laser focused on the rust belt, ohio, pennsylvania, states like virginia where they're worried there could be a crossover white blue collar voters for donald trump. i think you're going to see them zero in and using ronald reagan is not a bad idea. >> quickly, given the fact he's got falling poll numbers when matched up with hillary clinton particularly for background states. >> we just saw him bring on a former bush operative. so donald trump is far behind in organizing in states like pennsylvania, florida, ohio, a

lot of these key battleground and swing states, but he is making an effort now. i think a lot of that had to do with the exit of corey lewandowski. his campaign seems to be moving towards a more traditional direction now that we're in general election. and they have a lot of catching up to do quite frankly. >> but you know what you would normally do? >> what? >> if you're in scotland on the day of the brexit, you take advantage of the tremendous free media opportunity and you would use that opportunity to demonstrate how you would respond to a crisis as president. this is the guy who's been getting free media that's been riding on free media the whole time. how do you miss that just as a free media opportunity? that's what worries republicans. >> you think he would have spent part of the plane flight over there setting up. >> yep. >> and being able to answer questions. >> he's right there at the right time. every camera globally is trained on you in that moment and you give them a tour of your golf course? just as a matter of campaign tactics it's insane. he wasted millions of dollars in free media time when he could have been pitching himself for president. it's unbelievable. >> okay. i'm going to talk to barry bennett about this i think in the next hour.

>> it's amazing. >> interesting things to say. >> joy, gabby, good to see you both. thank you so much. let's get now to breaking news from west virginia where rising flood waters have killed at least 23 people including two children. and right now officials say an unknown number of people are unaccounted for. nbc's morgan radford is joining us from elk view east of charleston, one of the very hard hit areas. good day to you. what do we know about these search efforts? >> reporter: alex, the governor has just asked for federal assistance to help with those very search efforts. you can see behind me this is where the bridge collapsed. this was the only bridge leading to this strip mall where 500 people have been trapped for the past 24, 48 hours. well, late last night and today they were successfully able to build an emergency evacuation bridge. and i actually went up that evacuation bridge, which is just right here to my right, we went up there today and outside we saw people who were grilling outside of kroger. some people were sleeping inside of kroger. and at a local motel where there's still no running water. this is where they've been.

they are allowed to leave at this point, but some people told me today, alex, they don't want to leave because the conditions they have here are better than what they have to go home to even if they still have a home left. take a listen to what some people told me here in some of the hardest hit areas. where is your house now? >> i have no idea. >> reporter: you don't know where your house is? >> i've been finding parts of it as i've been searching down the road. actually some of it's right there, but i haven't been able to find the upstairs portion of it yet. >> reporter: you haven't found the roof of your home? >> huh-uh. not at all. it's gone. >> reporter: so do you have any of your things? >> just what i got on. that's all i got left. i just couldn't believe it. i've never seen anything like this. i've lived around here my entire life. i've never seen anything to this level. we've gotten harder rain than this before and the water's never gotten to these levels. i've never seen anything like it. >> my car stalled out here. the water started rushing heavily. the rain was pouring really hard, so i knew i was in

trouble. i couldn't get it started so i got out of the car when the water started coming in. i walked forward, got some other vehicles, turned around, looked back and saw my flasher lights on my car going over the embankment there. i watched my car kind of flip into the abyss. >> i just watched three houses go down the river, just floating right down and then crashed. i don't know if anybody was in them. >> reporter: alex, when you hear about how bad things are out there, it's understandable why some people are choosing to stay here even in this trapped -- well, not trapped anymore, strip mall. just to give you some context, we're talking 44 counties that are still under a state of emergency. that's part of the reason why the governor did ask for federal assistance. and still 19,000 homes without any power whatsoever. luckily there's no more flood watches expected today. you can see the sun is out. it's bright, it's shining, but they're still trying to figure out what to do with those people still unaccounted for, alex.

>> and you look at the placement of that shopping center, at least it's slightly elevated, gives a little sense of better security. morgan radford, thank you so much from elk view. trump insider barry bennett joins me next. we don't have to wait until the next hour. he's coming up right after commercial break. we're going to talk about the campaign's brexit strategy and why corey lewandowski was fired. if you suffer from a dry mouth, then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be. but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? well, there is biotene, specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants... biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth. real is touching a ray. amazing is moving like one. real is making new friends.

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the uk, that donald trump said it's going to be good for his business. first up, do you think that's a mistake showing evidence of a bit of a tin ear? is he missing the big picture here? would you have advised him had you been on the plane say, pal, study up on brexit so we can talk about this and you can have some influence and you'll lend your voice to the discussion? >> you know, i think that right now we're in this period of hysteria over brexit. in a couple days this will all be calmed down and they'll be a process for the uk's withdrawal. and this will all be a nonevent. you know, nothing much is going to change in the end, but the only thing that's happened so far is some devaluing of the pound versus the dollar, which is pretty good for those of us who have dollars in our pockets. and the stock market is adjusting a couple percent down yesterday. you know, this will all go away. >> it may go away, barry, but it was suggested to me by an analyst, and maybe it was earlier not in the last conversation i had, that, you know, donald trump could have used this time really wisely to

show some sort of presidential creds and show he was able to speak about something and show ability to understand foreign policy and the effect on the united states. instead he spoke in the most broad of terms using the same sort of venacular he always does, he didn't come off if he was super familiar with brexit and how it may affect people's wallets, their 401(k) plans. >> well, i mean, i don't think there is any lasting effect to their wallets or fo401(k) plans. this is a temporary bump in the stock market. the only reason there was a bump is because it was unexpected and not built-in, because the pollsters were all wrong. and really the only correlation to what happened in the uk and america's presidential politics is that their cycles and our government where our leaders

serve ideology more than the people they get ahead of the people, they get over the tips of their skis, and then they get yanked back. and that's going -- we're in that position in the united states right now, like the uk was. but i mean, you know, this hysteria, he went there to open up a golf course. that's what he's doing. >> okay. let's talk about the campaign shakeup, which i know you're familiar with. we have a former staffer that says corey lewandowski was fired for mishandling the messages comments about the mexican-american judge there. is that what happened? >> no, i don't think so at all. first of all, corey during the primary did an amazing job. more republican votes than anyone had ever gotten at a dollar per vote ratio we've never even dreamed about. but, you know, now we move into a general election. and, you know, campaigns can't, just like kitchens, can't have two chefs. and paul is better suited for the general election. and mr. trump chose paul to be the leader. >> so you have no worries about the optics losing such a viable

campaign staffer just a few weeks before cleveland? >> no, no, i mean, the campaign has gone from 70 to 150 to, you know, it will be 300 or 400 or 500 maybe after the convention. so it's a rapid growth phase and everybody knows who's in charge. >> speaking of those involved, it has been reported that donald trump's children are taking on a central role in the campaign and that they in fact pushed for lewandowski's ouster. how much influence do the trump children really have? >> well, i hope they have a great deal of influence, right? i mean, they're very smart kids. they're very loyal to their father. they all have skill sets that can really help him. and they can also help him raise a lot of money, which i think they're doing. so i hope they have a very big presence in the campaign. >> speaking of raising a lot of money, does donald trump need to raise a lot more? because he is a lot behind hillary clinton. >> well, you know, during the

self-fundi ining phase of this campaign they would go to him with a budget at the beginning of the month and say we need $8 million and he would write the check and they would spend it. at the end of the month they were expected to have zero or else you were wrong about your budgeting. so it's not surprising to me they only had a million dollars in the bank at the end of the last month. but this month i think they have raised far more already than hillary raised last month. they'll be very competitive. >> what about the associated press reports today that few inexperienced -- rather few experienced political operatives, i want to say you're certainly one of these exceptions, that are willing to work for the trump campaign. one of them told the a.p., quote, everything that we're taught as children not to bully, not to demean, to treat others with respect is the exact opposite of what the republican nominee is doing. how do you for somebody like that? so how do you run a campaign that it would seem some people are embarrassed potentially to join? >> well, i mean, people can join or not. i tell you i get a lot of

resumes every day from people who want to join the campaign. the campaign gets far more than i get. so i don't think they're hurting for any talent. >> okay. well, barry bennett, always good to speak with you. >> fanthanks for having me. brexit fallout. how much truth are there in the dire warnings many forecasted for britain. hi! hey! i've made plans for later in case this date doesn't go well. same here. wouldn't it be great if everyone said what they meant? the citi double cash card does. earn 1% cash back when you buy, and 1% as you pay.

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british decision. it is if you like for britain to decide when to file for divorce under article 50 of the lisbon treaty. but all the indications are that no one here is in any particular hurry to do that is certainly the leave campaign will not dance to the tune and be dictated by any timetable from brussels, that's exactly what they believe they have voted to leave behind. so officials here we know are now working on what you could describe as the world's most complex divorce unraveling dozens of treaties, hundreds of trade agreements, 50 years of foreign policy. and there are thousands of questions. among them the most important, the one you've just asked, how long does this take? under the lisbon treaty it says once you file for that divorce it takes two years. but look, this could take a decade. over in berlin, as you say the six founding members of the

european economic community, what the european union used to be called, are meeting now. and they want a quickie divorce. they're saying that very openly today. indeed the french foreign minister even said britain should have a new prime minister within days. again, exactly the kind of language that those who voted leave here will deeply, deeply resent. but for them in berlin the six founding members, this is an existential crisis. this is a crisis that could topple the european union that they have worked 50 years to create. so for them britain's exit is a crisis and they are in survival mode, alex. >> yep. and i'm curious, chris, those that were behind the brexit movement, how big a role did refugee fears play in this vote? and who were those people behind the movement? >> well, look, the people who were pushing the movement were people like nigel farage of the uk independence par fi and boris johnson on the conservative or

right wing of the right wing conservative party. they were pushing it and playing constantly with the idea that refugees and immigrants and migrants were making life more difficult for people in great britain. the irony is that that really is not been a major problem at all for great britain. there are issues with people coming in from the other parts of the european union, but those are not syrian or african migrants. and yet you saw nigel farage putting up posters of migrants arriving in slovenia as if they were on britain's border. this was fear mongering in its most transparent form, and it was very successful. >> yeah. bill, talking about those six founding members meeting with the eu today, yes, they can say to britain as you've articulated they want to get this all done very quickly. that said, until that happens, what is the next step for them? are they just playing a waiting game? can they really move forward? >> well, the next step for the

leaders is to hold a summit on wednesday, a crisis summit that will not include britain for the very first time. there will be no british representation. david cameron won't be there, of course he's already announced his intention to resign before october. here what's consuming people is who follows him. obviously it will be someone from the leave campaign the most likely candidate is the former mayor of london boris johnson who led the campaign. charismatic man who in some respects resembles donald trump, certainly in appearance there are resemblances there, but also there are echoes of his -- donald trump's campaign. and that's as chris was saying one of the things that drove this campaign, the anti-elite, anti-establishment howl of anger from people who wanted to in quote take back control of their country and their destiny. the terrible irony of this is

that the very first thing that will happen is that an unelected prime minister will be chosen. if it's boris johnson, you know, he hasn't been elected by the people. so the very first thing that will happen to the people who wanted control back is that they have no control whatsoever on britain's new prime minister who may be there for the next three or four years. >> there's a certain irony to that, certainly. chris, we've been hearing dire warnings both economic and security related. and with regard to security we know it's going to try to get inside the mind of a terrorist who wants to wreak havoc for whatever reason they find logical, but economically is there some sense that these warnings are more likely to come true because of an effort to sort of punish britain for leaving the eu? >> well, i think there are two things going on. one is that if the british government continues to try to stall on invoking article 50, that is going to protract the whole thing. i mean, it really is like to use

the divorce anl jis, again, it's like a couple that say, well, we're going to have a legal separation, we're going to live in different places and we're not going to really get a divorce and we'll see who gets custody of the children and we're not really going to decide and the children suffer. well, the children are going to suffer a lot in britain and in europe if that's what the british government continues to do. and that's why the people who are meeting now in berlin and will meet later this coming week are saying, no, no, no, we don't want a protracted divorce. you want a divorce, let's get this done. let's get it resolved so we, in europe, can get on with our business. and that seems to me like a fairly fair and not a vindictive measure to take. >> all right, chris and bill, gentlemen, thank you both so much. some new questions about whether brexit predicts a victory for donald trump. i'm going to ask elise jordan about that. clips a food tru ck, ruining your perfect record. yeah.

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i'm alex witt here at msnbc headquarters in new york. happening now, authorities say they'll be looking through burned out homes for more victims of the explosive wildfire in california. two people have been is confirmed dead in the fire south of the sierra nevada mountains and ravaged 30,000 acres since thursday. the fire has charred entire neighborhoods near lake isabella. at least 1,500 more homes are at risk. nbc's gotti schwartz joining me from south lake now. the question is why has this fire spread so fast and is there an estimation on when crews will have a handle on it? >> reporter: well, alex, the first question is answered by the wind and heat. that is what we've been seeing for the last few days. that's what we're seeing right now. in fact, take a look up that ridge. that's a plume of smoke that just started. we saw that plume start rising and it's because the heat started kicking up. in the afternoons that's when the wind kicks up and things get very hectic out here. i want to show you this, this home right here, this is the type of charred remains that just lines these streets.

so many homes lost. and these are the types of areas that crews will be going through to check to make sure there are no other casualties. one more thing i wanted to show you here, this is a fire hydrant. we just talked to a resident who snuck back into this area. they told us these fire hydrants were not working when the fire came through, that maybe a pumphouse might have burned or something like that. that's something we're looking into. but residents here they say when the fire came down off of the ridge they had very little time to grab their things and go. in fact, we talked to one woman who described the moment where she lost everything. take a listen. >> it didn't seem that bad at first, so we just kind of took it casually. then within like five minutes it was over the hill and house two doors down, their tanks were going off. yes, we had like no time to get out. we lost everything. >> you didn't have time to grab -- >> we grabbed our dog, important papers and that was about it. >> reporter: and right now this area is still under evacuation,

meaning the residents aren't allowed to come back to their homes. over 100 homes lost in this area. so it's going to be very, very difficult for a lot of the people that live here to come back and to see this devastation. still no word when those evacuations will be lifted. this fire is only 5% contained. alex. >> oh, don't like hearing that. okay. gadi schwartz, thank you so much. let's go back to politics now and donald trump on the second leg of his scottish tour today, traveling to aberdeen to check on his golf resort there. the visit follows a stop in turnberry friday where the republican weighed in on the day's biggest headline, the brexit vote. >> people want to take their country back. they want to have independence in a sense. and you see it with europe, all over europe. i think you're going to have this happen more and more. i really believe that. and i think it's happening in the united states. it's happening by the fact that i've done so well in the polls. you look at the recent polling and you look at the swing states and you see how i'm doing. and i haven't even started my campaign yet essentially. >> let's bring in elise jordan,

always good to see you. my question is, is it accurate to compare what's going on politically in the uk to what's going on here? does brexit predict some sort of a trump victory? >> i don't think so. i actually think that the more accurate comparison would be what trump managed to do during the gop primary. and that was really a showdown between internationalists in the republican party and trump's brand of populism. and i think that is more telling and more -- and has more similarities to what just went down in the uk. and i think trump's problem now is transitioning to a general election candidacy. and he has been having clearly a lot of problems with that. and primarily because he cannot moderate himself going into the general election. and so i think that you look at the uk and that electorate and it's about 13% minority population. in the united states it's around 26% of a minority population. and it's just not -- the turnout

is not going to be won in small towns. it's going to be -- the election in november is going to be won in metropolitan areas. >> and if you look though at the situation in the uk, we have four and a half months until the election. might this be a test case? i mean, folks can look at some parallels that even donald trump himself has drawn between the situation and say it's either working or maybe it's not working so well. >> i think if anything it's going to make hillary clinton's team really focus on turnout. because the brexit vote overwhelmingly was supported by the younger generation. but they didn't turn out to vote in the polls. and so i think the clinton team is going to be very conscious of actually having a ground game that is going to get voters who support clinton out to vote. and then also i think that, you know, looking at this going forward, donald trump is, you know, embracing this as a referendum on his own policies. and i think it's giving him a level of cockiness that really

isn't warranted. >> so any thoughts on what trump's game plan should be the next few weeks before the cleveland convention gets underway? >> well, trump just needs a campaign. he needs to hire good people. he needs to start organizing in key states, battleground states where he needs to win. i think that he has started focusing in more on his convention operation. and i do think that he will win -- he'll be crowned the republican nominee. there won't be a coup within the committee, although there might be some excitement at the end of the day that will happen, but he really has to focus on beating a formidable, well financed, well staffed candidate who is hillary clinton. and he just as of now has a huge disadvantage in terms of fund raising and organization. >> okay. elise jordan, long distance in los angeles. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you for having me, alex. political machine. hillary clinton ramps up her advertising strategy to compete in swing states.

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i think it is heart breaking for the millions of immigrants who have raised their, raised families here, who hoped for the opportunity to work, pay taxes, serve in our military and more fully contribute to this country we all love in an open way. >> the supreme court this week handing president obama a setback on one of his key immigration reform measures. the justices dead locked 4-4 to shield millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation. this let's a lower court decision stand. let's welcome in amy howe. this one sentence ruling read

"the judgment is affirmed by an equally divided court." what does that man and how does this affect the millions of undocumented people who the measure was designed to protect against deportation? >> this has happened a couple of times since the death of justice scalia. the supreme court heard oral argument with eight justices back in the middle of april and we waited and we waited and it seems like maybe they were trying to come up with some sort of substantive ruling in the case but in the end were unable to do so. so in these cases in which they issue these 4-4 ties, it means that the lower court decision stands. and in this case, texas and the other states had gone to federal court in texas as soon as the policy was issued and asked that court to block the

implementation of the policy. they succeeded in the lower courts and so now that ruling will stand. and for the people who might have benefitted from the policy, because the policy never went into effect, it means really that the status quo stays in place. as the president later on in his speech, the obama administration's priorities for enforcing the immigration laws aren't going to change. so the people who are going to eligible for this program are probably a fairly low priority in terms of removal so it's not as if i.c.e. is going to show up on someone's doorsteps, but there would be other benefits that would have flowed from that, for example, being able to get a driver's license. >> how often do you think this will come up given that the

president has less than seven months? office? >> i think it's hard. the trial court order blocking the order was a preliminary record. in theory, they could go back and have a trial and an appeal. but if it came back before the end of the president's terms, chances are there would still only be eight justices. if donald trump were elected, he would rescind the policy. if hillary clinton were elected, she could well decide to continue the policy. there would probably be another challenge to it but then there would probably at some point be nine justices on the court. >> affirmative action in university admissions was held up in the state of texas. what does that mean across the country? >> exactly what it means depends a lot on what your point of view is. this was the case brought by

abigail fisher, a white student who alleges she was a victim of discrimination because the university of texas used race to fill 35% of the slots. she was not admitted when those with worse records were. justice kennedy joined the more liberal justices saying the policy that was in effect when abigail fisher applied to the university doesn't violate the constitution. so there was -- and he also said in his opinion for the court that colleges can continue to consider race, they can decide that they have a strong interest in having their students experience the educational benefits that come from having a diverse student body and colleges will continue to get a

fair amount of deference deciding what that means and how they're going to take it into account. >> just to show how slowly the wheels of justice move, abigail has since graduated from lsu so it's not going to affect her personally. and thank you, amy howe, for your time. >> a congratulations effort to dump donald trump next month in favor of another candidate. car. and every day brian drives carefully to work, there are rate suckers. he's been paying more for car insurance because of their bad driving for so long, he doesn't even notice them anymore. but one day brian gets snapshot from progressive. now brian has a rate based on his driving, not theirs. get snapshot and see just how much your good driving could save you. customer service!d. ma'am. this isn't a computer... wait. you're real?

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