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hole, birdie, birdie, birdie. >> hillary clinton's big move with elizabeth warren and preview of the party with a purpose, essence fest, from rockefeller center in new york, this is politics nation with al sharpton. good morning, i'm al sharpton. we start with something a little different, a look at what's really at stake in this election with some echos from the past. 51 years ago president johnson went to the house chamber where he addressed the nation about the voting rights act. >> the time for waiting is gone. it's all of us who must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry

and injustice. and we shall overcome. >> we shall overcome. this week in that same chamber, democrats held a sit-in to protest a new civil rights issue, gun violence. and they sang that song. ♪ we shall overcome ♪ we shall overcome >> congressman john morris helped lead the sit-in, an act of civil diso bead yens in congress like we've never seen. >> the time for patient is long gone. give us a vote. let us vote. >> america is sending out a 911 to the only first responders

that they have. that's us. that's congress. there's no one else to answer that call. >> we want to keep our city safe, we'll keep our own country safe. pass the bill. >> the protest reminding the nation that politics is about more than donald trump's latest tweet. it's about life and death and stopping gun massacres. it's about making sure immigrant families don't get ripped apart just because republicans refuse to fill an empty seat on the supreme court. it's about the economy and the need for steady leadership after a crisis like the one we're seeing in europe. those are the kinds of real issues in this election, a point president obama made this week in the middle of these dramatic events. >> these are issues debated by

candidates across the country, congressional candidates and presidential candidates and in november americans have to make a decision about what we care about and who we are. >> joining me now is d.c. congresswoman eleanor holmes norton who participated in the house sit-in, and e.j. dionne from the "washington post." congresswoman, you were active in the civil rights movement of the '60s now this civil disobedience in the house. do you view gun violence as a civil rights issue in our time? >> i really do. and i think it shows the resonance of the civil rights movement that you can take issues and make them appear not retro, but of this moment, when you can link them to the kinds of battles we fought then.

look what we were asking for. we were asking for the vote then, all be it in another context and asking for a vote now. we want a vote on the bill that said, look, if you're on a no-fly list, you can't fly. >> right. >> that was the main bill we were after. so it seems entirely appropriate to us to invoke our past. i can tell you reverend al, i did a little sitting in in my time. we usually sat in seats. the house floor is very hard. >> i've been in sit-ins and on the house floor. e.j., you know donald trump and hillary clinton both staked out separate positions on this. and really they staked out positions and attack each other. watch this. >> hillary clinton wants to abolish the second amendment essentially. she wants to take your guns

away. >> we must do something about the gun violence -- >> parents, teachers and schools should have the right to keep guns out of classrooms, just like donald trump does at many of his hotels by the way. >> starkly different messages. how much e.j., will this help to shape the 2016 election and be part of it as one of the major issues? >> well, i think what mrs. clinton is doing fits in directly with what the house democrats did and also what senator chris murphy of connecticut did when he led that filibuster in the senate. for 20 years, more than 20 years, since the 1994 election, democrats have been very timid gone the gun issue. they thought they lost more votes than they gained because people who supported the nra's position seem to devote on the issue.

i think one horrible attack at another has -- you might call it the sick and tired of being sick and tired moment. i think that's true not only of people who long supported gun control but a lot of other people in the country. i think what you're seeing and clinton is saying, a set of convictions that she's long had but also a belief that for a change, this issue actually works for those who support gun control and not for those who wrote the nra line. >> congresswoman, one of the things that's done with movements is deal with public opinion. when you look at two of the issues, gun control and immigration, it's interesting to look at the polling on that. on guns, 89% support background checks. on immigration, 78% support a path to citizenship or legal residency. could this upcoming election

determine whether we see movement on these issues? >> i really do think so, reverend al. what is really different about the gun control issue, you would have thought we would have had this outpouring after the connecticut massacre of 24 children. you're having it now because we're able to link it to terrorism. and we've got to -- for the democrats at least, there was a combustible mixture. there was terrorism and guns. remember we want you not to be able to fly if you're on that list. there was discrimination against the lgbt community. >> right. >> two issues that meant a great deal to us. and they came together and coming together when we had no -- absolutely no alternatives and remember we can't do a filibuster. the third thing that inspired us was the senate filibuster.

and we felt we could not go home for july 4th and say, well, look, there was nothing we could do about it. this was not a spontaneous idea but once it came out, the reaction to it was spontaneous on the part of democrats. >> now, dionne, one of the things that occur to me as we deal with these issues this week, during the republican primaries, they kind of dismissed trump as entertaining. let me show you some of what i mean. >> i thought donald trump was very entertaining. >> fun to listen to. >> all of that has been incredibly entertaining. >> fantastic talent, very entertaining. >> they dismissed him during the primary as entertaining and he won -- beat them all. will we see a more demand from the general election for more substance and less entertainment

from the general voting public, which is a whole different base of voters and a lot more people. is the entertainment period over, e.j.? >> well, i don't think he's as entertaining as he used to be because the audience is different as you suggest. many of the things he said in the primaries appeal to the right end of the republican party, which is a pretty big part of the republican party. once he moved into an electorate that includes independents and democrats, number one, many of the things he was saying weren't popular at all, were offensive in many cases. but he's also now running against hillary clinton who can attack him on many of these issues in a way that republicans were afraid to. they were afraid of alienating people who agreed with trump on immigration or any number of other issues. hillary clinton isn't worried about alienating voters who are never going to vote for her anyway. if i could, i would like to

underscore something congresswoman norton said, when you have this linkage on the gun issue with terrorism, a lot of these members of congress who vote the nra line always said what we need to do, whatever it takes to fight terrorism, and then suddenly they are faced with the contradiction that they are not actually willing to do everything that you can do to fight terrorism. i think that's why they are really stuck on that particular question. >> i'm out of time but congresswoman, what i'm really getting at. when you look at this week alone, from the gun issue, to the economy, to what happened in england with the vote, when you look at immigration and look at affirmative action, all in front of the supreme court, aren't we beginning to see that this election is more than about personalities. it's really about some real hard core issues and it's a lot deeper than what donald trump is

tweeting? >> reverend al, what you said is very important. even if the candidates, were inclined to discussion issues and wanted to go at one another, these issues are out there. they've got to take them on as they come up. the supreme court issues that you just named, affirmative action and rest of them, they'll be thrown out there by forces outside of the control of the candidates. going to force donald trump to show that he is the emperor with no clothes on. >> congresswoman eleanor holmes norton and e.j. dionne, thanks for joining me this morning. >> my pleasure. >> trump 2.0, is it say reboot or rehash? plus, a preview of tomorrow's big clinton/warren event. are you looking at the democratic ticket? using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the fruit... veggies...

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we've taken the lighthouse, which is a revery, very, important building in florida. i mean, in scotland -- to the right of the light house you have a green. this is a par four and we have then number 11, which is a spectacular hole. >> only donald trump would land in a country in the midst of a political and economic meltdown and plug his new golf course. trump was supposed to be rebooting his campaign, making a pivot to a more serious candidate and instead, he talked about golf. back here at home, he's sinking in the polls versus hillary clinton. he's scrambling to make up for a huge cash deficit against her and the never trump movement is still trying to slow him down.

one group is even running ads urging delegates to reject trump at the convention. comparing trump's rhetoric to ronald reagan's. >> we need god more than he needs us. >> i don't bring god into that picture. >> use of force is always and only a last resort. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> joining me now is rick tyler, former ted cruz campaign spokesman and now msnbc political analyst and republican strategist susan del percio. thanks both of you for being here. >> good to be here. >> trump is trying to reboot -- i mean, rick he becomes more professional in his campaign they are saying and rebuting. is he even capable of doing it? >> it remains to be seen. he gave a very good speech.

needs a little work on teleprompter and getting familiar with the text and making his own. i thought it was pretty good and avoided the temptation he often has of relitigating the past and past grievances of people have against him, particularly hillary clinton going after him on economic issues and on foreign policy issues. i thought overall it was a good speech. it could have been two speeches. there's a lot to go after. we'll see. >> but, susan, he made a speech, read the teleprompter, then he goes off to scotland, the day that we find out that they have voted against staying in the european union, shakes the markets worldwide, shocks europe. and he's selling sweets to his golf resort and talking about golfing. doesn't he lose whatever mileage, if any, he gained from the speech? >> it was one speech and this is

one event in scotland -- >> but a huge event as he would say. >> the suites were beautiful over there. but the question we have to look at is can he do something more than one time? can he do it two or three or four times? is this a candidate that is really developing. >> talking about the speech? >> talking about donald trump. not just in his speeches but in his rallies. he's a new candidate, and there's a big learning curve. with this new candidate there's very thin skin involved. we have to see can he be steady? he's not going to change -- >> but, rick, you have to deal with he's had a busy week, more than one speech. he fired his campaign manager. he came in with only $1.3 million on hand whereas mrs. clinton is over 40 million. i mean it's been one after another after another this week.

the speech really was like one of ten stories on donald trump, none good. >> you're right, rev, it was kind of interesting, he had a bad couple of weeks and press starts to give him credit for putting out press releases and actually reacting to things. going to scotland was really -- i thought a bad idea. you're running for president and going to a place where there's no -- virtually no voters fosh him. then on the eve the brexit vote, historic day in the uk deciding to leave the european union and on friday we lost 111 points in the dow. he didn't take the opportunity to really address that. he addressed it a little bit but didn't -- he talked more about his golf courses as you say and i think he missed an opportunity of being there in scotland, part of the uk, scotland voted against brexit -- >> scotland took the other way.

>> yes, it did. >> but most people going to europe during the presidential race to show their international bona fides and that i can handle issues on international level. i've never heard of you going to sell your personal property or to sell your resorts. i mean, republican senator jeff flake said trump can't win unless he changes. listen to this. >> what will increase his chances of winning is acting differently than he's acted so far. no republican or no candidate of either party is going to win the number of votes that is needed saying the things that he is said and acting way he has acted. >> it goes back to you saying can he do the speech more than one time? can he really come back in. and this is a sitting republican senator saying he can't win

unless he changes. and you're saying, can you teach an old dog new tricks? >> it's going to take a long time for the establish mtd, for the money you mentioned. he's far behind on fund raising and endorsements are mediocre at best. he has no real surrogates. he has to show over time that he is worth the investment. >> he doesn't have that much time. >> and the trip with scotland besides everything you've mentioned, i've left a lot of republican money folks saying why are you doing this? you're not changing. we don't know what to expect from you from the convention. that's why there are delegates looking to see if they can create a different panel to knock him out of contention. >> not only are there delegates looking to knock him out of contention. you have gop senator mark kirk running for re-election, tough race in illinois, he just became the first to television ad

directly attacking trump. i've never heard of this. watch this. >> mark kirk bucked his party to say donald trulmp is not fit to be commander in chief. >> let me frame this again for our viewers. this is a republican senator sitting -- sitting republican senator that is running for re-election that's running ads against the presidential nominee of his party. i've never heard of this, rick. >> it's fairly unprecedented. i don't know any analogy before we had tv that might have been something like that. but no, i think that rev, that the uk getting out of the european union sends a big signal to the united states. people are rising up against centralized power and i thought trump did a pretty good job of connecting hillary clinton to the idea of centralized power and elite governing class.

so look, he won the primary. we ran against him and didn't want him to win. let me be clear about this. he has to get a ground game together and hire more staff. looks like they are doing that and getting that together and maybe too late. the people are angry with washington. they are angry with the way things are going and angry they are not getting ahead and wages are static. i just have a very hard time predicting with any confidence how this race is going to turn out. >> i don't think that i can predict it either, rick, but i think that one of the ways to show that you are crusading against the elite class is not by showing your golf course in the suites in scotland. that's my personal opinion. rick tyler, susan del percio, thank you both for being with me this morning. >> great to see you. >> ahead, why tomorrow is a big moment for those who want a

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we're building what we learn back into the cloud to make people and organizations safer. this week's not guilty verdict in the freddie gray case was disappointing to his family but perhaps not surprising. officer caesar goodson was acquitted and of all charges. he was accused of giving gray a so-called rough ride that allegedly led to his fatal injuries. goodson chose to have a bench trial with his verdict decided by a judge instead of a jury. and experts say that tends to favor police defendants. since 2005, 23 police officers have been found guilty of murder or manslaughter by juries, but none, zero, have been found

guilty by a judge. goodson was acquitted by the same judge who found another officer not guilty back in may. the next trial in the case is set for next month. joining me now is billy murphy, attorney for the freddie gray family. first of all, thanks for being with me this morning. >> thank i, reverend. >> do you think the case -- the fact it was decided by a judge not a jury had any impact at all? >> this judge is known -- he has strong reputation for being a reasonable doubt judge. and that's a correct point of view for a judge to take, we've all complained as black people that there were not enough judges who believed strongly in the concept of reasonable doubt. this judge also has a long history of prosecuting police as a federal prosecutor for police misconduct of various kinds, including brutality.

>> right. >> and so it's a confusing position for the public to be in and the reason they are not in it was because this trial was not televised. so it occurs -- >> you made it clear that the public has not been able to see it and that the judge has to deal with the evidence in front of him. so how does the family, you're the family attorney, how does the family define justice in this case? what would be justice for them given the legal barriers that have to be dealt with and given what we've got to deal in terms of evidence. we're not dealing with a public jury now. we're dealing with a judge or a jury that would be looking at the law. no one knows it better than you. >> well, they respect judge williams. on the other hand, that doesn't mean they agree with him. and they don't know quite what to make of this. they don't know whether it was

the judge's fault. they don't know whether it was the prosecutor's fault. they don't know whether it was a good defense. and the problem is that nobody knows. and so there's a lot of finger pointing going on, which is not really healthy because people need to focus on what really happened instead of what they imagined happened. that's virtually impossible. >> what does the family expect and you expect from the cases against the remaining officers? >> the family is a strong supporter of the prosecutor, ms. mosby and they re emphasizempha through their remarks a couple of days ago. they are cautiously optimistic but there's resignation in their view of about what could happen

with the rest of the officers because it's going to be the same judge. the judge's rulings have strong implications about what is going to happen in the remainder of the case. so they don't quite know what to make of all of this but they are resigned to accept whatever happens because they don't want to see any looting or burning. they don't want to see any civil unrest that results in loss of life or property. so they are in a very unusual position but they are an unusual family because again, they define justice as what happens after a fair process where both sides put on all of the evidence and a fair minded judge rules. >> we're going to be watching. thank you, attorney billy murphy, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you, reverend. >> after the break, marco rubio, reversing course, running straight back to washington and straight into our gotcha. around here the early bird

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let the veep stakes begin. elizabeth warren and hillary clinton will hit the campaign trail together in ohio tomorrow as they try to unite the democrats following a long primary battle with bernie sanders. clinton's short list for vp is said to include virginia senator tim kaine and julio castro as well as senator warren. sanders lack of endorsement of still causing some problems for the democrats. on friday, he said he would vote for her but refused to endorse her. >> are you going to vote for hillary clinton in november? >> yes, yeah, i think the issue right here is i'm going to do everything i can to defeat donald trump.

>> why have you not endorsed her? >> i haven't heard her say the things that need to be said. >> joining us, senior correspondent and producer at vox and the head of new york state's democratic party and former senior aide to hillary clinton. basil, this event tomorrow has a lot of folks getting hopes up about a clinton/warren ticket. any chance at all? >> there's a good chance. i would say it's not dissquall tie fiing that there are two women on the ticket. elizabeth warren has been great in attacking donald trump. you talked about bernie sanders and his supporters, in terms of bringing sanders supporters over to hillary and reengage them in this general election, i think she would be fantastic at that. the longer that bernie sanders stays out of this race so to speak before he makes an endorsement and talks to supporters, elizabeth warren is the one to speak him. >> elizabeth warren went on the

attack just one week after endorsing hillary clinton, liz, and she never endorsed bernie sanders, which was interesting, watch this attack. >> we complain about donald trump or whimper about donald trump or we can fight back. me, i'm fighting back. he's a thin-skinned racist bully. and every day it becomes clearer he will never be president of the united states. >> liz, can we expect more like that in ohio from senator warren? >> yeah, she's sort of this fantasy vp, for a lot of democrats who think she can short the bernie sanders that might go to trump. she's energizing and entertaining and goes after

trump, great anti-trump surrogate. it comes down to chemistry. is there going to be chemistry between the two of them? so far hillary clinton and elizabeth warren have been campaigning separately against trump. it will be interesting to see if their frosty relationship which has not always been great and elizabeth warren has been critical of hillary clinton, if they can stand together. >> aside from the frosty relationships in the past because we know frosty relationships can get very warm when self-interest is involved. >> or trump is involved. >> and trump kind of helps. aside from that basil, how do you view the fact that some would say independence some of who are centrists and disaffected republicans are a lot of voters for mrs. clinton to get and that elizabeth warren may be too far to the left for

them. is it more in mrs. clinton's interest to go after centrists independents and disaffected republicans or to try to get the supporters of bernie sanders, some of which may not come to her anyway. >> there's value in both argument, she's conversant on a wide variety of issues, having worked for her, i can say that with my bias noted. but that noted -- >> bias good or bad. >> bias good in support of her. >> go ahead. >> someone like a tim kaine, from virginia, if there's concern about elizabeth warren being too far to the left, think tim kaine is someone who has executive credibility having been a former governor, probably considered more moderate. but look, i think hillary clinton is not the -- not so far to the right as people sometimes like to label her. she's actually very progressive.

i don't think that she is so starkly different from elizabeth warren in certain respects, but if you're looking for someone who's moderate and comes from an important state from virginia, tim kaine is your person. >> recent polling shows elizabeth warren as the top pick among clinton supporters. elizabeth warren, 35%, corey booker, 17% and julian castro 12 and al franken 7, sherrod brown 6, tim kaine only 5%, who basil is convinced brings balance but only 5% agrees with him. would the base be considered in this choice? >> i think kaine is a safe choice but not an exciting choice. and at this point hillary clinton has to weigh, does she want to go with someone who can help her -- one of her weaknesses is this enthusiasm gap, especially with young voters that i think someone like

elizabeth warren or corey booker could help her help resolve that issue. she needs millennials to come out for her and needs them to vote for her too. and so yes, kaine is -- might be the obvious choice at the end of the day, but it's definitely not the choice that many democrats might be excited about. when you compare him to people like elizabeth warren and corey booker. >> before i run out of time, i want to go back to bernie sanders, he says he'll vote for her but he's not endorsing her. what do you make of that? >> that's disappointing and a little troubling. because this time in 2008, hillary clinton had already come out of the race and endorsed barack obama and said, i need you to work as hard for him as you did for me. and if you remember, the convention floor, she asked for a vote of aclimation to all sort of behind behind barack in a unified way. bernie sanders has done that as

well and that's a little worry some, i don't think his supporters can turn on a dime. it's a process for him and them also. and he needs to -- begins the process of bringing his supporters over to her side to unify the democrats. >> looks like -- sounds like a mixed signal to me. liz and basil, i thankful for having you on but not greateful for having you on. >> essence fest, why this year could be unique. if you're taking multiple medications, does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications. but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene, available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel. biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. remember, while your medication is doing you good,

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essence fest comes back to new orleans next weekend and it's the last festival under barack obama. it's first since the passing of prince and the death of muhammad

ali and comes in an election year when voting rights are under assault and at a time when tens of thousands of lives are being lost to gun violence, crime and a broken criminal justice system. joining me now is vanessa deluca, editor in chief of "essence." thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. 22nd year it is a party with a purpose, top entertainment but also dealing with some of the vital issues of their time. i've been honored to speak at every one and will be speaking this year and there will be a focus on guns and flint, michigan. tell us things we're looking at this year. you have wonderful workshops and speeches and group discussions and at night the best that you

can get in music. >> that's absolutely right. the daytime really is where we get an opportunity to talk about the issues happening in our community that are relevant, real and have honest conversation. so we'll be focusing on, of course, gun control is a big and gun violence is a big issue -- >> you have some of the mothers of victims coming to speak. >> we do have a panel featuring sabrina fulton and mother of jordan davis. they'll be talking about everything that's happening around us. think about what happened in orlando not too long ago. think about what's happening to their own families. we'll talk about what can we do and what can we do collectively to make a difference. >> they are the ones that feel it. we saw the sit-in in congress which is great. now what happens and how do we turn moments into movements? but also it's a lot of t

entertainment world, one of the reasons i go every year since it started. you get the best in entertainment and the real relevant cutting edge issues. prince did the tenth and the 20th year of the "essence" festival. what are you going to do special to honor and remember prince this year? >> all of the artists in the super dome at a certain point in time throughout the weekend will be paying special tribute to prince. he was extraordinary. he really made the 20th anniversary of the festival something special. >> it was great. i was at both tenth and 20th and he was fantastic. >> you've got a great lineup. i talked to puffy combs and he's excited about sunday night. give us some performers. >> kendrick lamar on sunday with puff daddy and maxwell faith evans, baby face. saturday night mariah carey

closing us out, first time doing "essence" festival in the 20-year history. >> the last festival under president obama and the significance of that. i know many including me will be addressing that. how does that look to you as editor of the major black women's magazine in this country and around the world? what does that put on this festival because we're going to see for first time in american history an african-american president and family leave the white house. never been here before. >> never been here before. we want to make sure our interest and things that matter are taken care of. we'll look at the black women's vote and there will be a whole panel about that including mya harris who works on hillary clinton's campaign and number of other women in the political space will be a part of that conversation. we want to make sure people

remember black women drove the results and were leading in the results of the 2008 and 2012 campaigns. we have power to wield and we can't sit back and hope that the two candidates before us, presumptive candidates before us will take care of those issues important to us. we have to make sure we keep this top of mind and in front of our community to go out and vote in november. >> we want to make sure when that family leaves the white house, our interests don't leave with them. vanes vanessa deluca thanks, go to essence.com for more information on the essence fest next weekend. a quick note, we've got a great response to part one of our series following a nonviolent drug offender who spent 22 years in prison. one viewer said congratulations to him and his family. a true testimony to faith and

perseverance. so glad president obama served during this time. keep watching "politics nation" for more of our series on alton and search for new life after prison. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next sunday. ♪ everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products.

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