including about the fbi, including conflating the video the demonstration. including saying that a handful of extremists hijacked and otherwise. this is just stuff that's made up. it would be one thing if it were in the talking points. there are multiple sets of talking points. it would be one thing if it were in there and they got it wrong therefore she got it wrong. it's not even in there. it's just made up out of whole cloth. so i get that that's not the person i have that been asked about but this is the person who made most of the public pronouncements at least on that sunday after the attacks. i'll take one more question. >> reporter: you talked about the specifics of the marine team. do you actually name in the report the officers who told them to get off the plane and change to civilian uniforms? do you name names in those kinds

of details? >> no, sir. do we name the details or the names? >> reporter: the actual names of people that gave orders -- >> we tried to honor d.o.d.'s request with respect to how high up you are before your name is used publicly as opposed to using the names of people who -- we try to be sensitive to that frankly all tae cross all agencies. i don't think you'll see the "new york times" of the people. you'll see the title. you'll be able to read the transcript if we can ever get the transcripts cleared and more importantly you'll be able to see the underlying data and this to me is what's important. you may read an e-mail from ambassador mohl. you may read it differently. i don't know how you could, but you might. i want you to be able to read the e-mail. i want you to see what pat kennedy said during the fire fight. i don't want you to take my word for it but i need a little bit of help from the administration

to clear the underlying data and the transcripts. i don't think this is lost on y'all. i really don't. i think y'all know all of the transcripts that i can make publicly available are going to be made publicly available. i don't think it's fair to pi e piecemeal them out but i think they ought to be made available and you ought to look at the underlying data and you can decide whether or not the report fairly addresses the testimony of witness x if you read the transcript and you say that's incontext, i'll give them a check mark, or that's not in context, i don't want you taking my word for anything. read it for yourself. >> reporter: charles woods has asked the president publicly if the drone witnessed the death of his son. do you know if the drone captured that and it was fed to the white house. >> i know that the drone was in place at the time of the mortar attac

attacks. i do not know the degree of granularity and particularity that the drone video footage has. but you raise an interesting point. when you meet with the families privately, you hear questions that you would never hear in a press conference. they're incredibly personal questions. because while these are four fellow americans to us, they are sons and husbands and brothers to the people at the very beginning and the last group that i talk to which are the family. the questions are very, very different and i -- even though it's not in report, i am happy that we were also able to answer some of the intimate questions that were asked by the family of those that were killed. >> thank you. >> thanks.

good morning, everyone, i'm tamron hall, we've been listening for an hour to trey gowdy and his republican colleagues revealing the details from a long-awaited and long-labored over report involving what happened in benghazi. we've been following this breaking news from capitol hill. republicans on the louhouse sel committee on benghazi released their report of the attack in 2012 that took the lives of four americans while hillary clinton was secretary of state an issue donald trump has raised repeatedly. democrats have accused republicans of conducting a two-year witch-hunt aimed at secretary clinton but the republican report just issued this morning says it found no new evidence of culpability or any wrongdoing by secretary clinton. >> there is new information on what happened in benghazi and that information should fundamentally change the way you view what happened in benghazi and there are recommendations made to make sure it does not

happen again. >> among the revelations in the republican report, 35 americans were saved not by local militias but by former military officers from moammar ghadafi's regime, the libyan dictator whom the u.s. helped topple a year before. why was ambassador chris stevens in such a dangerous place? the report says he was filling a temporary staff gap and spearheading an effort to make benghazi a permanent diplomatic post, witnesses told the committee ambassador stevens was laying the ground work for a visit by secretary clinton to benghazi the following month. a major focus of the report is the military's failure to carry out orders from defense secretary leon panetta to deploy forces to benghazi. a force did not get to tripoli until the next afternoon, partly because of previously reported failure to have airports ready. but also because of conflicting orders from state department and pentagon officials over whether marines should wear military uniforms or civilian attire

because of diplomatic sensitives with the libyans. one commander said while waiting on a plane for three hours he and marines changed in and out of their uniforms four times, the republican report comes the day after benghazi committee democrats issued their own report with a sharply different view. democrats argue the u.s. military could not have done anything differently on the night of the attacks that would have saved the lives of the four brave americans killed in benghazi. the democrat report does acknowledge security measures in benghazi were woefully inadequate but it blasts the republican report in a case study in how not to conduct a credible investigation saying it wasted more than $7 million of taxpayer money. nbc's luke russert joins us live from capitol hill. luke, i just listed some of the things chairman gowdy pointed out, issues with the military and a brief statement on the changes remitted but we all know the headline many remembers, especial will any the base,

expected was some type of evidence to prove wrongdoing as it relates to hillary clinton. that was the expectation and here you have the republican there is admitting they found nothing. >> tamron, there is a very interesting tension on display in this press conference within the republican members of benghazi committee. you had two -- mike pompeo and jim jordan -- who early this morning released an addendum report that essentially put more focus and more blame on the leadership of hillary clinton. chairman gowdy's report, which they were obviously a part of, was more wide-reaching, that talked about the military response, other issues, about the lack of inadequate security on the ground in libya. that ambassador stevens was very much exposed. but when asked today at the press conference, chairman gowdy would not go out and publicly condemn hillary clinton's leadership. i then asked mike pompeo who, in his opening remarks essentially

said that hillary clinton's leadership was morally reprehensible if he stood by that comment. and not only did he stand by that comment, he almost doubled down on that comment which begs the question is when we're a few weeks away from the conventions, a lot of people are going to say, look, you had a two-year investigation and you come out here on the stage and say hillary clinton's leadership was morally reprehensible and then you have to chairman who won't necessarily embrace that idea. you see there's these two schools of thought within the republicans here is do we pin this on hillary clinton or this a real full-on investigation into everything that happened that night and because of what jordan and pompeo did i think democrats have the area where they can hone in on and make this the partisan issue it's been for the last two years, tamron. >> let's get reaction from hillary clinton's campaign. a spokesperson from clinton repeating their claim the committee's goal was to polarize or politicize what happened in

benghazi. kristen welker is live if brooklyn. kristen, what are you hearing on the ground as a reaction there? >> tamron, the clinton campaign pushing backyard against this report, let me read you a bit of a statement we got from spokesperson brian fallon. it says "after more than two years and more than $7 million in taxpayer funds the committee report has not found anything to contradict the conclusions of the multiple earlier investigations. this report confirms what majority leader kevin mccarthy and even one of trey gowdy's own former staffers admitted month's ago. this committee's chief goal is to politicize the deaths of four brave americans in order to attack the obama administration and hurt hillary clinton's campaign. of course what fallon is referring to there, you'll recall that kevin mccarthy months ago linked the benghazi nvgsz to secretary clinton's declining poll numbers and that really opened up something for secretary clinton ahead of her testimony before the benghazi committee. remember she testified for eight hours and afterwards it was seen

as though it backfired against republicans, you can expect, tamm ran, to say the clinton campaign, the white house very much on the same page about that. yesterday white house deputy press secretary eric schultz slammed this report ahead of its release. secretary clinton will be appearing later on today in colorado. i don't anticipate she will offer up a response to this report but you can bet reporters are going to be there shouting questions at her trying to get some type of reaction. one more point i'll make, tamron, secretary clinton's unfavorability ratings very high at 50%. the clinton campaign knows it and this report doesn't help. in fact, last night while she was speaking in chicago she talked about trust issues and essentially made a plea to voters saying look, you can trust me. i may be more careful in my remarks but that's just a sign that i've been in this business for a long time and i know how important words can be. tamron? >> let's talk about the other headline.

houma abedin will testify in front of the conservative watchdog judicial watch about her role, if any, in the private e-mail server. that is still ongoing. what do we know about her testimony today? >> that, of course, speaks to the trust issues as well. these various investigations into secretary clinton's e-mails are on going. houma abedin, of course, a long-time state department top staffer of secretary clinton, uniquely aware of her use of the private e-mail accounts so she's going to be answering questions about that as well as what a lot of people saw as a unique employment situation. houma abedin when she was on maternity leave also was working about the state department and doing outside work as well so all of that will be looked into. but again, tamron, this comes against the backdrop of this 2016 race so you can anticipate whatever houma abedin says today during that judicial watch hearing will become fodder for republicans moving forward. donald trump has vowed to talk about these e-mails every single day. tamron? >> let's now go to the white house for the reaction there.

nbc's ron allen is standing by. ron, it's been noted hillary clinton was referenced three times in the 187-page on the attacks and what happened. the largest focus, though, is on the administration in this report from the republicans. >> right, tamron. various aspects of the response, especially by the pentagon and the state department. the white house is not going to rebut point by point many of the issues that have been raised by this report. their position has been this is a partisan matter that it's full of what they call right wing conspiracy theories that they insist have been debunked. they talk about the waste of taxpayers money they say this has been. they insist this investigation which they believe is the eighth by their count, the white house, has lasted longer than the 9/11 commission, the watergate commission, so on and so forth. so their position is to essentially not try to relitigate all the facts. the white house would admit that, in fact, this whole incident rightfully caused a

re-evaluation of embassy and consulate security, particularly in far-flung posts as was benghazi. and they say they have reviewed the response and they say they did everything possible. but the bottom line is they keep insisting this is a distraction, that they say it is about hillary clinton and 2016 and it's not about the ambassador and other americans who were lost so rather than trying to get into the minutiae of the report they are keeping this broad view that this is a conspiracy attempt and that we need to move on and that's what they have been reiterating today but of course there are some details that need to be answered about the response, about why the pentagon the pentagon didn't get there. why were they moving? why aren't they moving so on and so forth. those will be many of the questions directed then. >> joining me now live, the house select committee on benghazi, congressman elijah

cummings. let's talk about what he said this morning on "morning joe" regarding criticism from you and democrats who say this was a political exercise targeting hillary clinton. let's say it. >> i think mr. cummings and the other democrats just assume that the republicans were going do what they thought we were going to do. they will be shocked when they read the report if they do bother to read the report. it is a serious of heroic acts by our fellow americans and what we can do to prevent the next. yes hillary clinton was the secretary of state at the time. i can't get around that fact. but the focus of this report was what the families asked us to focus on and shame on the democrats for figuring that out two years too late. >> were you surprised? >> i'm not surprised by what he said. but keep in mind, majority

leader mccarthy knew that a long time ago. he told us what the game plan was and he was part of the folks wanted to do, this was to bring down the poll numbers of hillary clinton. it's been one of the saddest exercises i've ever engaged in in my 20 years in congress. it's been very partisan, we've been locked out for so many witnesses interviewed and were not told about it, exculpatory evidence found out by the republicans they don't tell us about. failure to allow us to have free access with regard to transcripts and what i would say is we put out our report yesterday and we stand by that report. the american people paid $7 million now and and i'm asking

chairman gowdy to release every transcript. there's a lot of this information is information that came up three years ago and so, again, we're rehashing a lot and all i want to say is that no matter how you look at it the there's a lot of granularity that has been added but that there was no order, there was no effort to politicize the right's talking points and there's no evidence gun trading. so those things, now that we've conducted the ninth investigation after spend iing. i think the american people need to see every syllable of every transcript and i want them to see it. and i would urge people to do

that. they basically had the report for months. it's supposed to be a bipartisan effort. we literally got the report about three hours ago. >> well, they accuse the democrats of leaking information and also not wanting to be part of the process. we look at the report and the heavy focus on the military, faulting the military for responding too slowly. it clearly says, though, despite clear orders from president obama and the pentagon there are legitimate questions to be asked that have now been put on the table of the state department. but after hearing that confrontational showdown between hillary clinton and republicans on the committee, we now have chairman gowdy saying i simply asked the american people to read the report for themselves. it's 800 pages, by the way, look at the evidence we've collected and reach their own conclusion.

admitting in that press conference that there is no conclusion here regarding the focus heavily on hillary clinton. >> and i agree with you and him totally. he is not still releasing certain transcripts. i don't think he wants the american people to see every syllable that has been talked about with regard to this issue. and, again, we -- democrats even back at the -- when hillary clinton testified before the congress, at that hearing i said we want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and i begged him at that time, release every transcript. release every word. and i don't think they want to be fact-checked. they didn't want us to have -- that's why they didn't want us to have the report, because they knew we would fact check it. but i would urge people to look at our report but back to the main point. we've always been concerned from the very beginning the two

hearings that we did have, two hearings that we had by democrats and those were how about how do we make sure that we keep our personnel safe and how do we improve security at our embassies and we held those hearings. those were the ones that we asked for and to his credit we got those. you would think that at the end of this process we would have had another hearing to see how far we have gotten with regard to the recommendations of the various entity that have looked that the but we didn't do that. and so one of the things the families asked us to do, they begged us not to allow this to become a political football. sadly, that's what's happened and it's unfortunate. >> congressman elijah cummings, thank you so much for your time, reacting to the breaking news this hour. up next, i will talk to the republican of the house select committee who was on that platform just a few minutes ago. also ahead, donald trump's reaction to the one two punch from hillary clinton and senator

elizabeth warren. what trump said to nbc news about warren as he prepares to campaign today in a battleground state.

welcome back. we have more coming in now of new reaction to the report released by republicans. after a two-year investigation on the events that played out in benghazi that resulted in the loss of life of four americans and joining me now, republican congressman lynn westmoreland of georgia, a member of the house select committee on benghazi. he joins us straight from the news conference. thank you so much, congressman, for your time. >> well, thanks for having me. >> absolutely. what do you see as the headline -- and i have the report here in front of me. this 800-page report. what is the headline for you. >> new facts, truth would be the

real key words to come out of this for me and the opportunity for the american people to be able to take and put together new facts with the old things that have been discovered in some of the other investigations and be able to tie that together and that comes from the committees that had certain lanes they had to stay in and the orrers that we had been given, we were able to put that stuff back together. >> when you look at the headline here, at least the focus from now from everything as far as word count to the headline, the focus is on the military being faulted for delay in response despite clear orders from president obama and the pentagon as well as what's seen as missteps by the administration but you and i both know the heavy focus for your base has been on hillary clinton.

the allegation that she failed as the head of the state department and was somehow responsible for the events that led to the letts of those four americans, does this report draw that conclusion? does this report present any evidence? that hillary clinton failed as secretary of state as it relates to benghazi and the deaths of those americans? >> well, i think the american people, our fellow citizens, have to read the report for their self. they'll be able to determine their view of ms. clinton, their view of secretary leon panetta, their view of what the president did, their view of what ben rhodes did, patrick kennedy. what the diplomatic security agents did. they'll be able to get their own opinion of what happened because we put this down in a very detailed order of timelines, is e-mails and hopefully our goal

is to get the transcripts released. >> but is your conclusion assembling these many pages, is your conclusion there is evidence that hillary clinton misstepped or did something wrong as secretary of state as it relates to sfwhez is that your conclusion. >> well, i think, you know -- that's up to the individual person -- >> but you're part of the team -- >> no, i'm fixing to tell you my personal opinion if you'll just listen for one moment. i think that what my conclusion that i draw from it is that there was a failure in the chain of command at the state department from the information we were able to get. the fact that the state department stonewalled us on so many of these e-mails and different information that we asked for is something i question, too, what were they trying to protect? who were they trying to protect?

so my conclusion is that, look, i looked at all the information and i see that there was an error somewhere in the state department because of the known facts about the lack of security. now does that go to the boss? does the buck stop with the boss or is there somebody else to blame? that's up to the american people to draw the conclusion but when you're the boss, you're supposed to be the boss. >> with all due respect, as you asked me to wait while you answered, you did not answer. did you find in evidence this 800-page report that you suggested the american public print out at their homes is there evidence that this person or individual that was being protected was hillary clinton? is there evidence in this that proves -- >> ma'am, we don't know who they were trying to protect. we have no idea. but when your chief of staff is

also your attorney, that would show that there is some type of buffer created in some of these instances of attorney/client privilege. all i'm telling you, ma'am, is that we have laid out all the facts and we hope that all the transcripts, i mean people watched -- some people watched the 10 hours of interview that we had with secretary clinton so i'm sure they were able to gauge something by that and we just they this report will help fill in those gaps. >> but there are, according to democrats, including elijah cummings who was just on with me, there are still gaps, he's calling on all of the transcripts to be released. >> we're with him. >> so i'm asking you, have all the transcripts been released? all of the information? >> no. >> so this assertion from congressman couplings is untrue? >> well all the transcripts haven't been released because they haven't been cleared by the intelligence community or the

agencies that would give us clearance to do it. they here in the process right now of looking at all those transcripts and making redactions where they feel necessary, we think the transcripts should just be released and i agree with mr. cummings on that, they need to be released because they will paint i picture that will coincide with the new facts that we found in our report and in our investigation so i totally agree with him. but you know, ms. hall, the interesting thing is -- and i've been saying this for a year. it doesn't matter what our report says, it doesn't matter what i say or anybody else says, they are going to make it political. and when i say "they," i'm talking about the democrat minority and when i say "they" i'm talking about the media and when i say "they" i'm talking about the hillary family. it wouldn't have mattered what

we said. >> does that also apply to the republican presumptive nominee? do you believe that donald trump is making this political as well? >> well, donald trump is not mentioned in our report. unfortunately i think he's mentioned 23 times in the democratic report, more than mr. doherty or mr. woods. they're trying to bring politics in this. we mention ms. clinton fewer times than the democrats did in their report. >> is that because the house majority leader kevin mccarthy last september said "everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable but we put together a benghazi special committee, a select committee" -- >> that's not what he said. >> let me play it, then. if i'm not reading it right, let me play it for you. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? but we put together a benghazi special committee, is a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping.

why? because she's untrustable. but no one would have known any of that had happened had we not -- >> so that's what i was reading but there it is in his own words. >> yes, ma'am. and i think -- and i can't tell you what kevin was thinking. i just know i heard him many, many times before, but the fact is that our committee did find out about the private server. so when actions have consequences and if her actions -- the consequences was her numbers falling that didn't have anything do with us. were we not supposed to say anything about a private server? no, we want the american people to have the truth so if the truth brought about consequences, there's nothing we can do about that. >> congressman lynn westmoreland, thank you so much for your time. i greatly appreciate you joining me today. >> yes, ma'am, thank you for having me. >> let me bring in ari mel bube

who's been poring through the report. it's incredible that you have to your investigation $7 million and not only the chairman but just westmoreland on as well saying the american people should get home and print this out and draw their own conclusion. of what happened. >> agreed. politically this is not the headline many were respecting from republicans when they unveiled what has been a project of years of pursuit of the benghazi issue but i'll move off the politics into the facts of the case, there are, i would argue, based on reviewing a good portion of the report, four big claims here. number one that there was a failure to act. that military delays and other types of incompetence basically prevented the intervention that could have saved american lives based on what we know the previous investigations, including republican-led investigations, were largely exaggerated. there were problems but there has not been evidence on this prort that these lireport that

could be saved. number two, there's been a report that the obama administration put too much credence on the idea that this was caused by a terror-related youtube video. i would say that is largely true. there was clearly some misunderstanding or misidentification of the issues in the unveiling or unrapping of what happened there. number three, the allegation there was a decision to politicize this by the obama administration immediately. your interview with congressman westmoreland revives that allegation throughout the report. i think that's partly true in the sense that there is evidence that this report and elsewhere that political-type appointees were involved. david plouffe, as we heard in the press conference, architect of obama's 2008 campaign involved in policy making, messaging and that may seem untoward to some people. i would say that's not unique to

the obama administration or this issue and from an investigatetory or legal perspective, that decision to politicize is ultimately what happened. i don't think this report carries the day on that. i know we're short on time but i want to get to the fourth one. a decision to stone wall. an allegation basically says the obama administration was intentionally misleading or stonewalling this investigation that's a serious charge when the executive branch has an obligation to comply. my rating is that's largely untrue. there were a series of investigations, there was thorough compliance by any standard documents froe ride issed, testimony provided by from current and former officials and duration. this is an investigation if you count them up has gone longer than the pearl harbor investigation or the 9/11 inqui inquiry. so i went through four big claims, one mostly true, one exaggerated and one lacking

support in this detailed report. >> ari, thank you very much. coming up, changing political gears. was senator elizabeth warren auditioning for clinton's vp spot? people are talking about that moment that played out yesterday. i'll talk live with one of hillary clinton's other possible vp picks. he's reportedly on the list, congressman from california xavier becerra. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ico motorcycle, great rates for great rides.

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report. >> thank you, camerotamron, and you for correctly pronouncing my name. we've had numerous investigations. we've known for a time we need to beef up our security throughout our embassies. we know we need to make more investigation. s to keep our personnel safe we've learned nothing new. we knew it cost $7 million. we can't on the floor of the house have votes to give more americans security and gun safety, we can spend 7 million taxpayer dollars to do a partisan investigation on something that didn't even focus on the fact that four americans tragically lost their lives. so how about we get down to the business of jobs agenda, taking care of gun violence and making sure terrorists don't get their hands on weapons. why should you walk out of a gun

shop with an assault weapon if you can't fly on the plane? how about this congress that seems to be caught in this culture of dysfunction get to work is? >> but now you have republicans pivoting to the fact that without this investigation the world would not have known about this private e-mail server in hillary clinton's home. so it may not present evidence of wrongdoing as it relates to benghazi, it now has spawned this whole new issue regarding her e-mail server. she acknowledged yesterday the public has a trust issue with her. much of it she believes she's been attacked for decades for this is public office as a first lady senator and secretary of state but nevertheless without this investigation we would not know about the e-mail server. >> tamron, for the millions of dollars that we're spending, knowing that the e-mails the secretary has already provided to our government, that doesn't take us very far on getting more americans working. it doesn't get us very far in making sure another terrorist or

crazed individual gets his hands on a web and shoots up 49 people, killing lives of people who are loved ones. so that's great. if that's what they're saying they want to do is spend tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to go on witch-hunts and then go after as you noted by playing the tape of majority leader -- republican majority leader kevin mccarthy going after secretary clinton, we can do that. that's what we've seen this congress do for some time. but it's time to leave this culture of dysfunction and get to work. >> what can you tell me about the reports that you are on a short list of possible vp picks? >> probably not much more than you can tell me, tamron, that decision will be one which secretary clinton gets to make i think most of us feel confident she'll make a great selection. when she becomes president she'll make other great choices and decisions so we're looking forward to seeing that. we'll have a great convention come july. we're ready to come out of the blocks ready to tackle these issues and go after donald trump

who seems to say things and never show how he'll get them done. the first thing i'd like donald trump to do is show us his tax returns so we can find out if he's nothing more than a fraud. >> congressman javier becerra, thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. donald trump is returning to the campaign trail with events in battleground states and including his campaign says a big speech on trade. but as he tries to get back on track our new survey monkey tracking poll shows clinton leads trump by eight points up six from last week with the candidate lagging in nearly every poll trump's team appears to be in damage control, signaling a shift in one of his most controversial policies. in a new interview, one of trump's policy advisors tells the "wall street journal" trump's so-called muslim ban would only "suspend temporarily immigration from regions that have been a major source of terrorists and their supporters. his campaign spokesperson

katrina pierson had this to say when asked about trump's stance last night. >> this had nothing to do with american muslims or even soldiers for that matter but mr. trump is going to be refining his policy, putting out more specific details which everyone has been asking for but there has been no change. >> while trump has not definitively taken down his call for a total and complete shutdown of muslims, he said his ban would apply in particular to the terrorist states. he's also responding to tag team attacks from hillary clinton and elizabeth warren continuing to refer to the massachusetts senator as poke hon a, a reference to her claim of native american roots. i'm joined by erin elmore, a trump supporter and former contestant on t ae pr"the appr." where does trump stand right now on this muslim band? >> we are now in the process of clarifying and expanding what we

want for the platform in the party. right now he's trying to make sure that he's clarifying and saying which states he's talking about so today when he goes to pennsylvania. i know he'll be in pennsylvania and that's a big battleground state. he'll clarify those things and move forward and get ready for the convention. >> do you know any more details on this litmus test? how will he determine what countries if, for example a terror strike originates from someone who's lived in france, does that then count? mow do you or how is the campaign or how is mr. trump determining which countries he would put on this list? this ban? >> he's consulting with advisors and we'll know very soon. >> this has gotten a lot of new attention. he's hired a former ted cruz senior communications advisor jason miller. he's coming in to put the campaign reportedly back on

message. are you familiar with some of the tweets jason miller sent out about mr. trump before hired? >> what he was probably doing was supporting ted cruz, his boss, that's almost sort of a job description and these people that end up working in republican politics have worked for other candidates in the past so this isn't highly unusual and to say he's hired to get it back on track, the campaign is quite on track. jason is just another has set to the team. hope hicks has her hands full, she's very busy and he's another asset. so it's certainly on track, he's just propelling the movement forward. >> so you are familiar with the tweets i'm referring to. jason miller -- >> i don't know which one you're specifically referring to. >> i'll read them. he referred to "hashtag sleazy donald." he went on again to refer to the trump bot and describe his new boss as that and referred to donald trump's infamous comment that avoiding a sexual

transmitted disease was his personal vietnam. this was tweeted out by the new communications director of the campaign. it's been deleted since he was hired but does that make his new job and new position difficult? >> i think helping a former presidential candidate and now hopefully the next president of the united states get elected is certainly a daunting task but clear hi he's up for it, he's got thing skin, he has a sense of humor so i think it will move forward amicable, all of our boats are rowing in the same direction. >> one more from your communications director. he tweeted out "donald trump is the carl lewis of flip-flopping. i've literally never seen anyone move request such speed. i know you refer to that as a sense of humor but in the campaign where corey lewandowski is no longer there and others have come and gone it's it's interesting he's part of the trump team that's been control sod tightly by the candidate.

>> well corey lewandowski is gone working for another network in broadcasting so good for him but we have paul manafort at the helm. he's been called one of the most influential political advisors of our time in the last 40 years. i don't think this is anything to worry about and just moving forward. >> erin, thank you for your time. we appreciate. >> it thanks for having me. >> coming up, our new poll shows donald trump is performing worse than mitt romney did monkamong voting groups in 2012. what are you doing?

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first is this report on benghazi. with senior political editor mark murray. that was the line-up before that news conference from the republican leadership, the committee, investigating benghazi. and now if you look at social media, we still have, i think, what is the predictable line where no minds have been changed. there are people who believe that hillary clinton was at fault, some of the base of the republican party. you have that. and on the other side, you have democrats and supporters who say $7 million, two years later, no evidence provided that she did anything wrong. >> tamron, predictable is a really good word. yes, we've seen democrats in one corner, republicans in another. and to me the biggest takeaway is that this story is really now been going on for more than four years. and it really goes into the heart of politicizing tragedy which is different. back in the 1980s, you had a u.s. soldiers killed in the terror attack in the middle east. of course the tragic 9/11

terrorist attack, all of them ended up having investigations and recommendations after the fact. but really the benghazi was the first one that really turned into a political food fight. from really the get go. and remember, it took place during the fall of the 2012 presidential campaign. it's now running into this presidential campaign. and we ended up hearing from republicans and trey gowdy said there are new details that came out, which is absolutely true. what hasn't changed are the conclusions. whether the military was able to get there in time about the security for ambassador chris stevens and so, that i think are the big fundamental takeaways from today's back and forth. >> how do people in the middle process this? when you put it against for example the now well-played comments from congressman mccarthy who said this was designed, this committee set up to hurt hillary clinton in the polls. when you hear if you're an independent or someone in the middle that this report is complete and there's no smoking gun against hillary clinton, for

those in the middle on this, separate opinion, where do the facts come in here, mark? >> tamron, if you are in the middle and you are in a hard republican or hard democrat, when you're probably actually hearing is about something that doesn't basically put hillary clinton in a positive portrait. she's going to be campaigning on her technology agenda today in denver. so the fact that we're talking about benghazi, something that certainly the clinton campaign would rather talk about something else. we're in a political age right now where there are few americans in the middle. all the polling shows how polarized this country is. and you're really either on team blue or team read, and there are fewer, fewer people right down the middle. >> is there anything in this report that hurts her? i know it takes her off of what she wants to talk about today, does it help her to say listen they came out with a report, $7 million, two years later, and i went before this hearing for 11 hours, what do they have? >> make the best news for the

clinton campaign and for hillary clinton is that after today they probably can say now look, we're put itting the benghazi firmly behind us, there's not going to be another revelation or report on this at all. and that's where they can find solace in. i've seen the headlines, for example the "new york times". the report exonerates her. there was no wrong doing on her behalf and again, the broader conclusions were made on what happened hasn't changed. there are new details particularly in the fog of war and chaos of what was actually going on, but the overall conclusions are what we knew about even before today. >> thank you mark for the first read this morning, and coming up, the passing of two great sports legends, the winningest coach in the history of basketball pat summit dies at the age of 64 and buddy ryan also today his family announced his passing, that's next. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses,

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tributes are pouring in for legendary basketball coach pat summit who died this morning at the anyone of 64. and here's a look at the pat summit statue where she served for 38 seasons. her son announced she passed away peacefully surrounded by those who love her most. summit was battling early onset alzheimer's disease. and summit led the lady vols to eight championships becoming the winningest coach in the history of the division one basketball. in honor of coach summit, the mayor tweeted the henley bridge lights will be changed to orange, white, and blue tonight in remembrance of coach summit's dep devotion to knoxville. meanwhile, nfl coach buddy ryan also passed away 35 years in the nfl helping lead the new york jets, chicago bears, super bowl as an assistant coach. he then went on to become head coach of the eagles and cardi l cardina cardinals. his twin sons rex and rob ryan followed in their father's footsteps. and thank you for watching this

hour of msnbc live. i'll see you tomorrow. right now on msnbc, andrea mitchell's live interview with the chair of the house select committee on benghazi. congressman trey gowdy. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," benghazi breakdown. the failures by the pentagon, state department, and the white house. they claim complicated any rescue effort after the first benghazi attacks. >> you didn't know that a single u.s. military asset did not meet a single designated timeline? think about that for a second, the world's most powerful military did not meet a single solitary self-imposed timeline. >> democrats even back at the -- when hillary clinton testified before the congress, at that the hearing i said we want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and i begged him at that time. release every transcript. release every word, and i don't

that is they want to be fact-checked. >> first interview since the findings were released. trust factor, hillary clinton tries to shake off her trust deficit before today's benghazi report. >> you can't just talk someone into trusting you, you've got to earn it. so yes, i could say that the reason i sometimes sound careful with my words is not that i'm hiding something. >> will he or won't he? bernie sanders still holding out on hillary clinton. but he's here live with us today. trail blazer, remember hall of fame koeccoach pat summit lo her battle with alzheimer's but a winner in college basketball history. mens or womens.