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casualties from the attack on ataturk airport are rising. at least 41 people are confirmed among the dead and more than 200 injured in what intelligence officials say was done by a trio of coordinated suicide bombers. this attack has hallmarks of isis but so far no official claim for responsibility. this airport if it was the scene of chaos and carnage about 14 hours ago is now reopened to passengers and flights from the u.s. to istanbul are back up and running this morning. president obama is due to land in canada any moment. we just learned he spoke to the turkish president by phone. president obama will be attending a north american leaders summit hosted by canadian prime minister justin trudeau. we expect president obama to address the ataturk attack.
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we are looking at live pictures of pomp and circumstance as leaders are arriving. the white house did release a statement condemning the attack reiterating the support for turkey. we have a team in lace in turkey here in the u.s. and around the world covering this. i want to begin with nbc news chief foreign correspondent stationed in istanbul. you have been able to go inside the airport. it has reopened. explain what you saw and about any added security precautions that are now in place. >> reporter: this attack did not shut down istanbul. it did not shut down the airport. the airport is still functioning but it is functioning in a very strange way. clean up crews are inside. they have set up barricades to protect some of their working spaces. and they are cleaning up broken glass, collapsed ceilings,
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bullet holes that have punctured the walls. even as businesses continue to operate. i saw one scene that was a woman at a shop selling sandwiches and candy bars and the glass behind her was with bullet holes. it is an unusual situation where you see people, passengers dragging their bags, pushing baby carriages around some of this debris. it is a political decision here, a decision to show resilience. this country does not want to cower to terrorists. the istanbul airport is fundamental to the turkish economy. it is fundamental as a regional hub here but it has created this very strange juxtaposition. the brussels airport was shut down for a week. people couldn't get near it as there was detailed forensic investigation. now you have officers in the airport conducting
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investigation, construction crews doing welding and passengers and journalists mingling about. it is not the kind of scene that i have seen before. >> explain why it is not unusual that we don't have a claim of responsibility 14 hours later. >> it is not unusual because it is turkey. ic isis has gone through turkey coming through this airport and then getting down to the syrian border crossing in. often times if they need to rest and recuperate will fall back to positions in turkey. sometimes they have their family members in turkey. so isis has been reluctant to brag about or publicize its attacks in this country for fear of losing its foothold here but has carried them out in order to send a message to the government being don't push us too hard.
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we are here. if you crack down on us we will make your economy, make your country pay. it is also a muslim country and not all isis supporters around the world would support the idea of attacking a muslim country during the holy month. >> i know because of the reporting that you did i think roughly two weeks ago talking about the heightened security concerns for this holy period of time, the month of ramadan, i believe you said that there were intelligence officials saying about 30 isis affiliated members had been trained and dispatched potentially for attacks just like what happened in istanbul. so is there any intelligence, anything credible about more worries of something happening prior to tuesday? >> reporter: there are. and let me give you a little more specificity about that intelligence warning. and that intelligence intercept
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really. about two weeks ago on the same day that cia director briefed congress he talked about the strength of isis that even though there had been hundreds of air strikes against isis the group remains capable and determined of carrying out international level attacks and said isis was staging its fighters predeploying them to try to carry out attacks. we received more information about those predeployments and were told that isis had begun this process and said more than 35 of its fighters from syria into turkey to carry out attacks during ramadan. then yesterday a counter terrorism official told us that it is highly likely that this attack at the airport is directly related to that planning by isis that perhaps the militants themselves who were prestaged or responsible or somehow involved in the attack. the concern is 35 is a very
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large number. it was more than 35. so what about the other attackers? are they still here? are they still planning to carry attacks out during ramadan? there was a week left before it finishes with the holiday which makes this particular period one of heightened concern. >> thanks so much. i want to bring in analyst and here in studio with me . this isn't isis directed or isis inspired we have no claim of responsibility from them, who would do this? >> you have no claim of responsibility and richard touched on it quite well when he said that turkey is a base of operations and has been for isis for years. there are other groups carried out over decades.
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recently a smaller subgroup of turkish forces have carried out attacks in turkey. however, all attacks on this magnitude, large scale suicide bombing bombings unattributed. they don't want to destroy their operational security networks for cells inside of turkey and even though they place pressure on turkey by doing these attacks they don't want the full brunt of the turkish government to come down on them. they don't attribute attacks. >> the u.s. and other countries criticized turkey for not doing enough to thwart the flow of isis members from syrian borders into turkey. doesn't this enhance the argument that pressure that turkey is feeling internationally? >> early on in the syria civil
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war turkish government wanted to topple the assad regime. that is their official position. they felt they needed to facilitate the rebels that were pouring into the battlefield, if you will, to facilitate the shipment of arms going to the rebels so that they can go into syria and fight the assad government. that was one of the main reasons that isis was able to grow strong. they appealed to thousands of foreign fighter. turkey let the border continue to remain open used to smuggle weapons. in the last couple of years they have been put under tremendous effort by nato saying you are to do something about this. these fighters are going to turn their sights to turkey one day and that is what we have seen unfold in the past year and a half. turkey are now directly going after isis allowing u.s. to do so but it may be a little too late on the border front.
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>> this is one of more than half a dozen terror attacks in turkey this year. so is it just the proximity that makes turkey such an easy target because they are so close to where isis considers its land to be? >> yes. it's a question of proximity. even worse than proximity and this is where the leader of turkey has made a horrible miscalculation, the belief that he could allow to flow in all of these jihadis into turkey and allow them to transit in to destabilize syria is coming to bite turkey literally on their derriere. more important to this is the fact that turkey is now having to make a decision about who its actual enemy is.
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they like to imagine a wolf at the door when there is a dagger at their knife. isis could completely destabilize that country. unless country takes very large scale active measures which may include ground forces to northern syria they have this problem for some time to come. >> when we think about what the problem is and if we get claim of responsibility about this being isis inspired or directed, the fact is that there has been ground laws for isis in certain territories. there have been disruptions for them yet they are able to pull this off. so how is the international community getting better at disrupting the threat? >> that is a multi facetted approach. on one hand it puts a lot of pressure on isis.
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the leadership is systematically targeted by the united states. there has been stepped up pressure. at the end of the day they have the ability to deploy the attacks and it is premature because this isis director. the bottom line is if you look at individuals the fact that they had suicide bombs they show some capability, some sophistication. not a guy just walking in with a gun. is the bomb maker still out there? where are they getting the explosives? how did they get the weapons? that airport is pretty well guarded. as a result you have to assume that isis still has the ability to project its terror beyond its borders. that should be a major cause of concern from western officials and the u.s. not just what happens inside syria and iraq but the ability to project terror through radicalization as well as directed and specific attacks. >> we expect the president to be
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speaking about this today. he just arrived in ottawa at the north american leaders summit hosted by the prime minister of canada. i believe that is the president of mexico's plane arriving at the same time. we will have more from the president's trip. the elimination of the threat because this is just urban warfare. there is no other way to describe what we have been witnessing whether talking about orlando or ataturk airport the threat of urban warfare is real and regular. >> this is old school terrorism. this is where you have a small cell. they are infiltrated into another country. they carry out an attack in a military style fashion. this has been going on forever. i like to bring an analogy that
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small groups of men can have deep historical impact. the 9/11 hijackers, 1,400 years ago nine terrorists split islam into two. so it has lasted for centuries. these types of attacks whether inspired individual or small enabler group have impact. we can wipe out 23,000 terrorists through combat operations. they can deploy one person and completely change our way of life. >> thank you. appreciate it. we know that the air force one, we have a better shot of it. behind president of mexico's plane. president arriving for north american leader's summit. we do expect to have remarks
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from the president. one other issue discussed will be the keystone pipeline. we do anticipate president to be talking about tpp. we will have that for you here on msnbc. one thing the attack on istanbul and the attack in brussels, it occurred before the security check points. that raises the new questions about how to maintain a high level of security at airports overseas and here in the u.s. nbc's tom costello. we already had a scare this morning at jfk after a suspicious package was found. this is abundance of caution period. >> reporter: you just hit it right on the head. homeland security says no real change nationwide. some may have rolled out high
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profile pretty much business as usual. where do you begin airport security? do you store it at maybe where people come into the airport? how about out on the curb or parking lot? the trouble is all of it is potentially a target. >> select u.s. airports this morning high profile police units increased visibility and added just hours after istanbul. in march 32 people died at the brussels airport. overseas no airline can fly directly if the airport doesn't meet strict u.s. security standards. >> we inspect the airports to ensure they meet the standards. that includes the people on the aircraft, crews that manage the aircraft and cargo that goes on board that aircraft sgmpt all is
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the security good enough? >> here at home with the u.s. summer travel season in full swing eliminating those tsa lines we saw during the spring is logistical and security priority. >> making sure that doesn't continue to back up so that you're creating an incrediblebly tempting soft target in the public areas. >> reporter: tsa is responsible for screening passengers while local police secure airport perimeters. some airport police unions have complained of too many access points and too few armed officers. >> when they can spend millions or billions of dollars for beautification projects they surely can spent that money, use that money for security improvements. >> this morning a renewed focus on security on both sides of the check point. this morning turkish airlines flights that were outbound from united states scheduled to go to
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turkey have been cleared. we expect many will effect for istanbul. that is remarkable given the fact they had the major terrorist event yesterday. >> reporting at reagan national airport. we have wheels down air force one and we are seeing secret service members and other military members who have escorted president obama to ottawa deplaning waiting for the president to arrive. there we have the stairs pulling up to the front door. president obama is in canada there for the north american leader's summit. we are back with more after this. i'm billy, and i quit smoking with chantix. i had a lot of doubts going in. i was a smoker. hands down, it was, that's who i was. after one week of chantix, i knew i could quit. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix definitely helped reduce my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior,
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welcome back. want togive you a quick update
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on the latest from turkey and terrorist attack. at least 41 people, most of them turkish citizens confirmed among the dead, more than 200 injured in what intelligence officials say was an attack by a trio of coordinated suicide bombers. so far there has been no official claim of responsibility. and the chaos and the carnage that this airport was living through 14 hours ago has now reopened to passengers flights from the u.s. to istanbul are back up and running this morning. we have president obama just arriving in ottawa, canbu. -- canada. the president is there in canada to attend the north american leaders summit hosted by canadian prime minister justin trudeau. >> we had another suicide bombing. many, many people killed. many, many people injured.
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folks, there is something going on that is really, really bad. it's bad. and we better get smart and we better get tough or we are not going to have much of a country left. >> there we have donald trump speaking to a crowd in ohio last night commenting on the terrorist attack at ataturk airport. when it comes to handling terrorism two recent polls show the country evenly divided on who would be bet wr clinton leading in one poll and trump leading in the other. peter alexander joins us with the latest and we have kristin welker in new york. the trump comments, how do they compare to previous responses to terrorist attacks? this seems pretty in line. >> what was most striking is following the attack at the airport in turkey is how quickly
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the trump campaign came out with a formal statement as opposed to statements on twitter in the past. this time he referred to our enemies as brutal and ruthless. he said he will do everything in his power to help improve security to keep america safe. compare that to days that followed orlando shooting including self congratulatatory tweet for which donald trump got a lot of flack. donald trump much more disciplined and measured in his comments this time. there he was on last night maintaining the strongman position on terrorism. as for waterboarding he said that is not tough enough. he suggested that terrorists see us trying to fight back within international law and they are effectively laughing at us. donald trump said under him he will make sure we fight fire
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with fire. >> you are watching president obama plane wheels down about 25 minutes ago arriving in ottawa. this is the north american leaders summit taking place. prime minister trudeau will be the host of this. also in attendance. some people have referred to this because it has been less than three years of these leaders meeting together but referring to it as influential meeting of north american leaders about friendship, of international trade and keystone pipeline is expected to be discussed during this time period. kristin welker who covered the clinton campaign is joining me here in new york. the reaction of hillary clinton to what we saw from istanbul, how has that been a stark contrast to what we just discussed with the donald trump reaction? >> it has been what we expect
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from these candidates. donald trump has responded with very strong words. i will read you a little of what secretaryclipten had to say. attack only strengthens resolve to defeat terrorism and it remains that the united states cannot retreat. we must deepen cooperation with our allies and partners in the middle east and europe to take on this threat. such cooperation is essential to protecting the homeland and keeping our country safe. secretary clinton using this moment to try to paint herself as a steady leader and to try to paint donald trump as someone who is more volatile. she was at an event in california. a lot of people were surprised she didn't comment and what she is trying to have as a steady response. i could see she could get criticized if we don't hear from her in the coming days about
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this. >> just want to point out as we are watching who is on the tarmac here. behind president obama is the homeland security secretary. we expect the president to talk about what happened in istanbul and the resolve of the united states to stand with national partners such as turkey. is president obama going to be out on the campaign trail trying to build up hillary clinton? and what the current situation of urban warfare international terrorism from orlando to ataturk means with a hillary clinton? >> we know the president spoke with the leader of turkey and extended condolences and said that the united states will offer full support and help in this tragic time. i think that is what we are going to hear from him when he addresses this and of course there will be a press conference and will get questions about this. you are absolutely right. that is going to be his core
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message when he hits the campaign trail. he is going to argue this is my former secretary of state. she has the experience to lead and try to contrast that against donald trump. >> thank you very much. president obama is getting into his vehicle about to take off after landing. we will have an update right after this. a het attack doesn't care if you run everyday, or if you're young or old. no matter who you are a heart attack can happen without warning. if you've had a heart attack, a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another one. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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were any credible warning signs. >> from your reporting is there any background on credible warning signs that the security forces at ataturk would have had knowledge about? >> we are going to work on this connection. want to go to ambassador of morocco and white house policy adviser. we're together to talk about something that we do too often and that's to figure out why this continues to happen and the growing trend of these atypical strikes, urban war fare that
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continues to be more deadly. it seems like we take two steps forward and then maybe three steps back on how we are trained to internationally battle this fight. >> you have to go back to the source, of course. as the battle rages in syria and iraq for the defeat of isis. isis operatives continue to be able to move freely and we track these through counter terrorism initiatives to stem recruitment of isis operatives. while we keep thinking the theater of operations is largely in syria which is primarily true, you have, of course, isis operatives as well as whole sections of libya under the control of isis. you have terrorist cells at large in europe as result of paris attacks and brussels attacks as well as isis operatives who have been told by their own leadership and we
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monitor this through their communications channel to not come to syria, but to attack western targets in europe and the united states. so the narrative has begun changing calling on attacks outside of the immediate theater of operations. >> so i want to give an update to everybody from governor of istanbul about casualties with 41 deaths including ten foreign nationals, three with dual nationality, also governor is saying more than 230 were injured, 109 of whom have been released from the hospital. there is no claim of responsibility for this and there is a distinction between isis inspired and isis directed. certain analysts look at coordination of trio of suicide bombers. one tape gives a better look from cameras of how one bomber
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was able to detonate himself. this is believed to coordinate a timeline of turkey striking this deal with israel to normalize relations. do you think that had calculation or plays a factor in what happened at ataturk? >> you can't rule it out because the rift that was repaired and where both governments announced intentions to restore relations comes to within hours of the attack in istanbul. there had been threats from the tak which is the militant operation if you can call it militant operation of pkk known as kurdish freedom hawks. they attacked the municipal airport of istanbul a few months ago and killed over 82. they have claimed that they will attack civilian targets while the pkk attacks more military
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targets. you have this offshoot claiming more and more responsibility for terrorist attacks in turkey. as you have reported isis is not confirming whether it was responsible or not. >> i want to bring richard engel into this conversation. as we are hearing from mark there and you can help with the context here, the issue of what we witnessed yesterday and the fact that turkey has been dealing with a rash of terrorist attacks, the kurds and turks, does this bring them together in a unified way against isis? or against other types of terrorist organizations? >> reporter: i do not think it will be the case. what is sad about this is every time there is a bombing in this
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country you have to think which group was it because it means bombings have become that frequent. there is a radical leftist group carrying out attacks. detonated a bomb a few years ago. there were many different military groups crossing. there was the pkk which as ambassador said generally targets police and security forces. there is a more radical kurdish offshoot which said is willing to target civilians because the pkk won't do it. pkk traditional old fashioned militant group and then you have isis. not only isis. there are other smaller different radical islam groups. this kind of attack, suicide bombers, high profile target most analysts are working on the assumption that it was isis and turkish officials including
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prime minister said that isis is the primary suspect. but because isis has a base in this country and uses it as a transit point it might not acknowledge its attacks. its attack might have been sent more as a message to the turkish government don't crack down on us. we can cripple your country. allow us to have free passage here or turkey will pay. >> when we were in paris in november during friday 13 attacks the investigation was quick to create the web that would lead intelligence officials to the home base of where this disruption was concentrated, how those terrorists assembled and carried out the plan. do investigators have a lead about where the source is coming
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from for the trio. >> there are rumors and bits of information that are starting to come out a lot on social media. at this stage we don't have any concrete data about who the cell was, who were the leaders, nothing that is reportable at this stage. frankly speaking, i expect we will have this quite soon. turkish investigators are very thorough. they keep files. they keep track of people who come in and out of the country. they lose track usually after attacks. they have a clear idea of who is responsible. i would say perhaps within the next 24 hours we will know a lot more about the names of individual. >> we already had reaction here in the u.s. fraut left and the right with hillary clinton and donald trump. this is a factor in the race not just because of what happened in
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ataturk but because of what we went through in orlando. donald trump is talking about the needs of how to stop this type of urban warfare, talking about waterboarding and fighting fire with fire. hillary clinton is saying we need to deepen bonds with allies of those two. let me play you what senator john mccain said in response to donald trump's comments on waterboarding. >> according to the geneva conventions it is a war crime. perhaps more importantly than that if you are not into academics and history is it doesn't work and any military leader that i know -- i had a conversation with general petraeus a few days ago says it doesn't work because if you inflict enough pain on someone that person will tell you whatever they think you want to hear. >> let me ask you, the nation
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seems to be split divide over which candidate. security a major concern coming up in november. we know he was a p.o.w. of the vietnam war. does the type of rhetoric from the campaign trail matter to the international community of those that are listening abroad? those that might be inspired to join some type of isis group? >> indeed. there is no doubt thomas that mr. trump's ban to call muslims has had inverse impact and throughout the muslim world. i think all of us who have been involved in this fight realize that we have important muslim addis central for intelligence sharing, joining us on the battlefield and providing security support we need as well as intelligence support. when i hear the claims from my friends in the arab world of
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which i am fortunate to have many and proud of them, they are asking why would the united states cut off its nose when we ourselves have faced the same threats as you do. isis is trying to destroy the very allies that are most essential to the united states. so mr. trump does not understand the middle east and does not understand what it means to fight an effective fight against terrorism. >> the one thing that has been reported is the fact that donald trump will come out with an updated policy proposal about that ban and it would lean towards those coming from countries whether they are known for terrorism, have training and equipment links to terrorism. is that just better scrutiny for the immigration process here after we know what happened in san bernardino? is this just a more hard line approach to making sure those folks that are coming into this country are here for good
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intent? >> there is no doubt that when you go through the line and you are entering into the united states where there is a visa control program it's up to the general to understand why they are giving the visa and whether or not these people return home. i have a more important issue on this. when a young person between the age of 19 and 27 is claiming that they are going to visit grandma in pakistan or saudi arabia and we know that mateen went to saudi arabia. you have to ask yourself, if they don't come back within two weeks from visiting grandma, what are they up to? those people i'm far more concerned about that know the people who are generally good citizens coming to visit the united states, visit disneyland and be tourists and friends of the united states. >> mark ginsberg, reporting on
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the scene in istanbul. straight ahead as we have been reporting we have the president arriving in ottawa, canada. this is the scene just earlier. he is there for north american leaders summit in attendance with president of mexico hosted by justin trudeau. only glad has febreze to neutralize odors for 5 days. guaranteed. even the most perceptive noses won't notice the trash. be happy. it's glad.
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had a conversation offering assistance. according to the white house it was president obama who placed that call. it gives you a sense of how quickly the white house wants to appear to be proactive, get out in front of this story which could take over this summit. of course, on the official agenda aspirational goals, trade, and of course, border security. >> is brexit on the menu? is that a hot topic? >> i expect english speaking reporters as well as spanish speaking reporters. he is here with justin trudeau. it is part of the conversation here. just a question to what extent the conversation about trade and remember u.s. trade ambassador is on the trip. he flew up with president obama.
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happening now along with members of community in chicago are holding a rally to mark the national day of action to stop gun violence. rallies are taking place throughout the country in hopes of yet again bringing focus to fun reform legislation. last week democratic leaders of congress held a historic sit in to protest gun laws in the wake of mass shooting in orlando. we had vice president joe biden along with his wife convening the first cancer moon shot
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summit. during his opening remarks the vice president condemned the high cost of cancer treatments. take a look. >> what is the possible justification when a drug is brought to market at the time brought to market costs $26,000 a year and 15 years later costs 120,000. tell me. tell me. tell me. what is the justification for that? >> the vice president seeming very resolved in his focus with the cancer program. we know he lost his son, beau, to brain cancer. istanbul's airport reopened less than 24 hours after yesterday's deadly terror attacks. does more need to be done to secure airports from check in to boarding a plane or just entering grounds of an airport? stay with us. guess what i just did? built a sandcastle?
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showing you live scenes out of ottawa today. here is the arch way for north american leaders summit where president obama will be in attendance. prime minister of canada justin trudeau is the host. president obama will be in a bilateral meeting and will join up with canadian prime minister for the three to have their summit. we do expect to hear from president obama. he will be addressing the attack from istanbul. the white house put out a statement earlier today and he also spoke with turkey's president earlier the president reaching out to him via telephone. we have new details emerging following deadly attack. we know the attack happened before the security check point at a security perimeter that we don't have in u.s. airports.
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calperry is here with more on that. what are the differences? >> this is true in a lot of airports certainly in conflict areas or areas where you have conflict nearby. this is the international terminal here. there is a baggage check here just after you enter outer sliding doors. in many ways it is more just the way for security officials to get the eyes on passengers. the other thing we don't have here in the u.s. and the reason we don't is it would take too much money and time. we have enough issues with security lines is there is a check point outside here. as you go through the front gates in istanbul you have guards usually turkish army or police. they will glance in the car. during war in iraq they were much more stringent. it loosened over the past few years. >> so the changes or the
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calculations compared to arrival section and the departure section because that seemed to make a big difference in what we witnessed out of ataturk. >> absolutely. that departure area you are standing there, everyone is facing the same direction, staring at a door waiting for a loved one. there is not a heightened security posture. we saw roving guards in istanbul. it is quite likely you will see that. you are looking at the baggage check. see these big conveyer belts. the bomb went off below that. this is potentially a reason that the bombs went off in the arrivals lounge because they would have had to go through the initial security check. something we don't have here in the u.s. because it is a time issue and a money issue. >> thank you very much. want to point out we are seeing the north american leaders summit. the three walking right now on
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the left of your screen is president of mexico. prime minister of canada there in the center and president obama on the right-hand side. we expect many things to be in the conversation today but the first remarks from the president concerning the attack in istanbul and ataturk. no claim of responsibility and according to the governor of istanbul there is a confirmation 41 people dead so far, more than 200 people have been injured in that attack and more than 100 have been released from the hospital. but the ataturk airport is up and running with flights having been reestablished between america and istanbul. thanks for your time. tamron hall picks up coverage right now. good morning. i'm tamron hall. coming to you live from our msnbc headquarters.
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president obama could make first public comments on the terror attack. the president arrived minutes ago in ottawa, canada. you saw that play out for a summit with canadian and mexican leaders. the white house says the president already called turkey's president this morning expressing his condolences. we are waiting to hear from president obama at that summit in ottawa. in turkey an investigation continues with isis, the chief suspect and with fears more attacks may be imminent. meanwhile authorities say 41 people were killed and at least 239 others injured when three suicide attackers coordinated the attack in the airport. officials say more than 100 of those injured have been released from hospitals. and there is chilling security footage. it appears to show one of the bomb blasts at an entrance to the arrivals