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also the reason the police may kill you. >> and also, if he looked fb resisting, maybe it was not irrational to resist, given the final act that happened there. thank you both. that's "all in" for this evening. the rachel maddow show starts right now with steve kornacki. >> thanks to you for joining us this hour. rachel has the night off. and we'll start tonight with the decade that won't leave us, the 1990s. they are back. bill and hillary clinton, they were big back then, that i big now. donald trump was big back then, he's big now. now new gingrich, he's back too. >> is there a single person here who believes that if you had done what hillary clinton had done that you would not be prosecuted? >> let me tell you why i'm so proud to be here. i used to study and teach
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history. i spent a little bit of time in politics. i have never -- i know of no example in american history of a moment where the leader and the american people came together as fast as they have in the last year with donald trump. >> you can consider that his audition. that was just a few hours ago in cincinnati, ohio. gingrich warming up the crowd at a big rally for trump. now of course gingrich was speaker of the house back in the 1990s. he was then pushed out of office in 1998 by his fellow republicans. this came after his party suffered a surprisingly poor showing in that year's midterm elections. but gingrich never really went away after that. he was back running for president four years ago, and now tonight -- well, tonight, it looks more possible than ever, based on what happened at that rally, that he'll end up as trump's running mate.
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>> newt has been my friend for a long time. and i'm not saying anything, and i'm not telling newt anything, but i can tell you in one form or another, newt gingrich is going to be involved with our government. that i can tell you. okay? we all love newt. newt gets it. i'll tell you one thing, folks. i'm not saying it's newt, but if it's newt, nobody's going to be beating him in those debates. that's for sure, right? nobody. nobody's beating our newt in the debate. >> and before that rally tonight, gingrich and trump met in new york at trump tower. this, the latest in a string of similar meetings that trump's been holding with possible running mates over the last few days. there are obvious liabilities to picking gingrich if that's who trump lands on for vp.
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gingrich has tremendous ethical and personal baggage. as 73 years old, he's be one of the oldest vice presidential candidates. gingrich also wouldn't automatically put a swing states into play. but on the other side of the ledger, there is some logic to the idea of a trump-newt ticket. obviously, washington experience, something trump has said he's looking for, something that gingrich has plenty of. he served in congress for a total of 20 years. but it's more than just that, more than just the experience question. trump and gingrich also seem to view the political system and the game of politics pretty much the same way. they both define themselves as anti-establishment figures. they both delight in bashing the media. they both talk in grand, sweeping terms about their own potential to change the world. they both seem to see themselves as leaders of average people rising up against elites. they've also both mastered the
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art of merging the personal and the political when it comes to branding. gingrich along with his wife has made a fortune selling all kinds of non-fiction books and children's books and documentaries and tapes, all through their gingrich productions media company. gingrich also once offered awards to small business owners and entrepreneurs, but he required the potential recipients to first join his group at a cost of $5,000. the kind of entrepreneurship we've come accustomed to with donald trump. but gingrich has been there too. gingrich also knows how to tap the grassroots for cash. his political action committee raised more than any other organization of its kind, a record $52 million over the four years leading up to his 2012 campaign. money obviously an area of concern for the trump campaign these days. we learned just a few weeks ago, the trump campaign had just $1.3 million cash on hand. that was a shockingly tiny sum. it called into question trump's
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basic ability to compete against hillary clinton financially in the fall campaign. today a new development on that front to tell you about. the trump campaign revealing fundraising numbers for the month of june that are a bit less bleak. saying they raised $26 million in june, still less than the $40.5 million hillary clinton raised in june. gingrich has also been tell -- telegraphing his interest in joining the ticket. a month ago, gingrich was criticizing the presumptive nominee's racist remarks against the judge overseeing the trump university case. he called the remarks inexcusable. after saying that, he seemed to reconsider and said that trump was a gifted amateur and that it
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was just a mistake. he said trump is learning very, very fast. gingrich has also done a 180 on the topic of trade. when he was in congress, he helped to push through the north american free trade agreement, nafta, which trump now routinely bashes on the campaign trail. now gingrich with his free trading record, says he supports donald trump's restrictive trade policies which would end huge trade deals that are currently in place. gingrich has flipped for potentially joining the ticket. but the biggest thing in gingrich's favor right now, if he's asked, he would definitely say yes. that's more than you can say about a lot of the other candidates who are on the supposed short list for trump, or who a lot of people mention as likely vp possibilities. there's a tradition of potential vp candidates coyly turning down the gig in public in order to
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not appear like they want it too hard. that's not what's happening right now. . the usual suspects are saying no, they really aren't interested. last night, senator bob corker from tennessee, respected washington in washington. he joined trump on stage at a rally in north carolina after meeting with trump and his family in new york. but then this morning, hours after that event, corker took himself out of the running. on july 4th, trump also met with senator joni ernst of iowa, fueling speculation that she too is on the short list. she makes a lot of sense as a possible short lister, but ernst pretty much told trump during that meeting that she doesn't want the vp slot. bob corker, out. joni ernst, she's out as well. doesn't mean she's any more res cent to stay in the spotlight, though. today we learned she has been given a prime speaking slot at
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the republican convention coming up in less than two weeks, along with scott walker, both of them confirmed to speak at the republican convention. walker giving a sort of endorsement of donald trump, saying -- that was scott walker today, endorsing donald trump without actually using his name there. trump has made it clear that he wouldn't ask any of his former opponents to speak at the convention until they first endorsed him. that's sort of a traditional move there for nominees. trump insisting on it, but he could have trouble, ted cruz hasn't endorsed him. there were some reports they're woking with the trump campaign to come up with some deal that would allow cruz to speak. cruz's spokesperson has denied the report. we'll find out the full line-up of speakers tomorrow. even if the convention process
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is starting to come together for trump and the republicans, the struggle for the trump campaign it's still the matter of finding a vp candidate, somebody who can help electorally and somebody who would say yes. in the past, that's been straightforward. the process has been easy to follow. you look for who the nominee wants to run with, the nominee asks that person and gets "yes" in return. but with donald trump, there's a new variable. there's a twist. the question this time is not just who he wants to run with him. it's who would actually say "yes" to him. joining us now, susan paige, washington bureau chief for usa today. thank you for joining us tonight. you saw the rally. newt spoke, trump spoke, you saw them together on the stage. what did you think watching that? do you think you're looking at a ticket there? >> i think it could be. they do seem to like each other. trump seemed to be engaged with gingrich. i think that's underestimated when we talk about political
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calculations, swing states, that sort of thing. a lot of candidates, especially donald trump want somebody where the chemistry is pretty good. i think that's true with gingrich and also with christie. the question, is that true with mike pence, who's gotten buzz in the last day or two? >> i was watching him with corker last night, but that chemistry you're talking about, i wasn't picking up on it watching corker and trump. i was picking up on it with trump and gingrich. what about that issue of the baggage? he was forced out as speaker. he had the ethical reprimand, the record fine in 1997 when he was a speaker. how much does that factor in? >> i think it would. among them they have six marriages, that might be a factor. it's about two decades since
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newt gingrich ran for office. one of the issues that donald trump has, he doesn't have any electoral experience. maybe he could use somebody on the ticket with more current experience in that. but with donald trump in particular, don't you think he's going to make a call with his gut, as opposed to doing a list with pros and cons for each of the candidates? it's hard to picture donald trump doing that. i remember four years ago, when i was in wisconsin, when mitt romney came in to do an event with paul ryan. and paul ryan was not then considered a favorite for the vice presidential slot on the republican ticket. the two of them just clearly got along so well, that by the end of two or three rallies, i thought he may pick him because they're kind of a nice fit. and as you said, i think you saw a little bit of that with gingrich tonight. >> i also wondered too, we see ernst apparently not being interested. corker pulling out of the mix on this. the idea that the vice presidential candidate has to fall in line on everything. anything trump goes out there
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and says between now and election day, it's the job of the vice presidential candidate to support it, echo it, defend it, to never so any distance between him or herself and the candidate. and i wonder if what separates newt gingrich from the other candidates is his willingness to do that. >> you're pretty much all in if you're donald trump's running mate. i would dish between what corker said, which seemed to be, i'm not going to be the vice presidential candidate this time around and joni ernst, who said, i want to focus on my home state. which is something you do say until you're offered the job. i'm not sure about ernst, whether you put her in the same cat egory category. i think donald trump is not going to spend a lot of time coaxing somebody who is not eager to be his running mate. i think he'll want somebody who is avidly in favor of themselves getting that job. >> the traditional approach is you don't want to look like you
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want it. but that's not a problem newt gingrich has right now. let's say it was newt gingrich, a trump-gingrich ticket out of the republican convention. if you're trying to counter-program that, if you're the democrats, the clinton campaign, how do you approach that? >> it would be a problem for the clinton people. it's more a problem if donald trump chose an hispanic. or a young person, who might appeal to millenials. choosing a 73-year-old guy who hasn't run for office in 20 years, was prominent in american politics when bill clinton was president, i think, leaves the field pretty wide open for hillary clinton. she might want to choose somebody a little younger than the other three people who will be running, but it seems to me, it does not put a lot of electoral pressure on her, either in terms of the demographics of a running mate, or in terms of the geography of the running mate. >> susan page, usa today, thank
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you for your time tonight. >> thank you. one thing to note about a potential girich vice presidential nomination, newt gingrich, he is 73 years old, three years older than donald trump, but here's a surprising bit of trivia. he would not be the oldest vice presidential candidate in history. that honor is held by one henry g. davis. he was 80 years old when he was nominated to run with democrat alton parker in 1904 against teddy roosevelt. by the way, that roosevelt ticket na 1904, the campaigned ages of the president and vice presidential candidate, that was the youngest ticket in history. bit of pointless trivia for you. and we'll be right back.
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nbc news has obtained disturbing new video of an african american man being shot and killed by police in baton rouge, louisiana. it comes just hours after the justice department opened an investigation into the deadly confrontation. there are still a lot of unknowns about this case, but here's what we do know so far. police were dispatched shortly after midnight early tuesday morning. they were responding to a 911 caller who police say claimed to have been threatened by someone with a gun outside of a local convenience store. >> copy suspicious code 2 at 2100 north foster, cross of fairfields. selling cds on the corner, gun in his pocket. he pulled a gun on a complainant and told him he couldn't be out there. police say when they arrived on
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the screen, they confronted 37-year-old alton sterling. police say an altercation ensued. we don't know what led to that altercation but a portion of it was captured on cell phone video by a witness in a nearby car. as a word of warning, the video we're about to show you is very graphic. it appears to show an officer push sterling onto the hood of a car, he's wrestled to the ground. seconds later, one of the officers appears to shout, he's got a gun, gun. and shortly therefore, gun shots are heard. >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> he's got a gun! gun! [ bleep ].
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[ gunfire ] >> oh, my god! >> they shot him? >> yes! >> and earlier this evening, nbc news obtained another video of this incident. this was taken by the store owner outside where that incident took place. now here's a portion of that video. >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> he's got a gun! gun! >> you move, i wear to god -- [ gunfire ] >> get on the ground! [ gunfire ] >> now the store owner who took that video says that he saw one of the officers remove a gun from mr. sterling's pocket. still images from this footage, you can see officers remove something from his pocket. it's unclear what it is they removed based on these images
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alone. louisiana governor john bel edwards announced the case would be turned over to federal authorities. he said he had serious concerns and the video is disturbing to say the least. the officers have been placed on administrative leave, standard procedure in cases like these. earlier today, mr. sterling's 15-year-old son wept uncontrollably as his mother delivered a statement. >> the individuals involved in his murder took away a man with children who depended upon their daddy on a daily basis. my son is not the youngest. he is the oldest of his siblings. he is 15 years old. he had to watch this as this was put all over the outlet.
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and everything that was possible to be shown. >> joining us now is edwin jordan, an attorney for the sterling family and a louisiana state representative. thanks for joining us. first, how is the family doing tonight? >> obviously, they're having a rough time. the family is grieving. they're exhausted. they haven't slept for two days. they've had trouble eating. so it's been a rough two days for them. >> the news here on the legal front is state and local authorities basically ceding this investigation to federal authorities, the federal justice department coming in. how significant do you think that is, and why do you think that decision was made so quickly? >> well, let me tell you, it's very significant. i've been involved in these cases for many years, and what
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i'll tell you is this. sometimes the justice department won't get involved in cases at all. when you think that you've got a pretty clear-cut case. other times, it takes months for them to get involved. so to say that they got involved in less than 30 hours, i think, is pretty significant. you can see the people behind me, still protesting, the governor of louisiana john bel edwards, and congressman cedric richmond, it's a testament to all of them and the collective community in baton rouge. again, this is a pretty significant measure and we don't -- we don't take that lightly. but let me tell you this, i think when you say that the city ceded to the federal authorities, it almost sounds like there was some acquiescence. make no mistake about it, this was an order. and short of it being -- of the city being ordered to do that, they would not have.
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>> obviously, this is something the authorities are trying to piece together, just as people watching this, everybody's trying to piece together as much information as we can. we have that store owner who offered that second video we just showed a clip up, saying that mr. sterling, that police removed a gun from mr. sterling, the close-up pictures there are too grainy, too blurry for us to be able to tell. they clearly took something from his pocket. we have no idea what it is. what is your understanding? do you know if he was armed? >> no, i don't know that. so i'm hoping that the investigation will clarify that for us. i'm not sure if he had a gun on him, or if it was a gun that was actually pulled out of his pocket, or something else happened. so -- but, you know, the family definitely wants to get down to the trouuth. and if the truth was he had a gun, so be it. there are other ways to disremembdisarm
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an individual. louisiana, you can have a concealed carry permit. so if somebody was concealed and had a weapon and there a 911 call saying someone had brandished a weapon, there are other ways to take on an individual short of shooting them four times at point blank range. >> obviously we have the 911 call, but what precipitated this confrontation? do you have any more details about what happened there when the officers first arrived there? >> i have not. it's my understanding that the officers arrived on the scene, didn't explain to mr. sterling why they were there, why they were confronting him. i think he was trying to get an explanation as to why they were there and couldn't get one. and then i think from there you saw what precipitated on the video. >> and if i understand this right, the officers had body cameras on them, or were supposed to have body cameras on them. and the word is the cameras were
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dislodged from both of these officers during the confrontation. i don't know if i should take that to me the cameras were still rolling somewhere nearby. do you know any details about if there was any sort of additional recording of this that's available from those cameras? >> well, it's my understanding that they had some recordable information, but it may not have been useful information. so i don't know. i just -- you know, if you tell me that the cameras -- the camera was dislodged on one officer, i understand that, but on both officers, i just find that a little bit improbable. >> edmond jordan, state represent and attorney for alton sterling's family. thanks for the time tonight. >> thank you. much more to come tonight, including some late breaking political news. be right back. men.
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just ahead, we got arguably the biggest news of the 2016 presidential campaign this week on a case that has been put to rest legally now, but that is definitely not over politically, with republicans, or at least the top republican in washington, trying to up-end the tradition that was started by president harry truman. all that and more is ahead.
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clinton's use of a personal e-mail system during her time as secretary of state. i received and accepted their unanimous recommendation that the thorough, year-long investigation be closed and that no charges be brought against any individuals within the scope of the investigation. so that is the end of the justice department investigation of hillary clinton. but for politics, for congressional republicans, the investigation may just be starting. the house oversight committee is jumping right in, bringing james comey, the fbi director, in tomorrow to testify about his investigation. next week, the house judiciary committee is set to question loretta lynch on the matter as well. and the house intelligence committee is also taking a look at it. so is the senate homeland security committee and the -- that makes five committees, controlled by republicans,
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potentially investigating the investigation of hillary clinton, and that was before loretta lynch announced her decision not to prosecute. there have been some calls for a special prosecutor, maybe a special committee to look into all of this. this is pretty much coming from across the board when it comes to republicans. reince priebus yesterday suggested an obama administration conspiracy, saying, quote, the obama administration were never going to prosecute clinton's criminal behavior because they're counting on her to deliver their failed agenda a third term. said the fbi's decision just doesn't smell right. donald trump for his part is now claiming that hillary clinton bribed loretta lynch to stand down. trump saying she is dangling the possibility of reappointing lynch as a.g. in a clinton administration and this is why lynch won't be prosecuting.
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this morning, paul ryan endorsed the potentially new congressional inquiries and he went a step further and called for something else. >> i was on the ticket in 2012. after the convention, you get the full, declassified information as part of transition, as part of being a nominee. i think the dni, clapper, should deny hillary clinton access to classified information during this campaign, given how she so recklessly handled classified information. i think that's something that the administration should do on its own, but we'll look into if that's something we can do as well. >> the briefings he was talking about have been a staple of presidential campaigns since 1952. both parties receiving briefings after the convention and during the campaign. a tradition started by harry truman who became president suddenly upon the death of fdr
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in 1945, and 12 days after taking office, truman first learned about something called the manhattan project. truman didn't want any incoming president to ever be as uninformed or unprepared as he was at that point. ryan, though, saying the clintons should not be allowed to receive the traditional briefings while running this fall. so that so far has been the republican response to all of this. meanwhile, the clinton response, well, it's been pretty much nothing. the campaign issued a three-sentence statement yesterday declaring the matter resolved. another one today slamming republicans on the house oversight committee for, quote, politicizing the fbi investigation. but no interviews with the candidate, no interviews with the campaign, no rebuttal of the scathing rebuke from comey, the fbi director, no attempt to explain or defend the discrepancies between what hillary clinton has said over the past year and what the fbi director said yesterday. and there's a lot to explain here. hillary clinton has said she
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never sent or received information that was classified at the time it was sent or received. she pointed to the government practice of up-classifying documents, after the fact. meaning they're retro actively classifying them years -- months or years after they've been sent. but comey revealed yesterday that 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chainsontained classified information at the time they were sent or received. clinton has also made the more specific claim that nothing she sent or received was marked as classified at the time. but comey revealed yesterday there were a small number of e-mails that did have classified mark, on them. he added that even for those --
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he also said it's the fbi's assessment that those actors may have gained access to hillary clinton's account. now, in response to those specific revelations and contradictions, we have heard nothing from hillary clinton or from her campaign. the question is, can they really just continue to say nothing about this? and if they do have to say something about this eventually, what are they going to say? joining us now is ellen tousher, former california congresswoman who served under hillary clinton. she's a hillary clinton supporter. thanks for joining us. let me start with, doesn't hillary clinton owe an answer to what james comey said yesterday and what he revealed? >> well, i think that the state department gave partly an answer today when the state department
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pushed back, they've done their own research of these e-mails. in the case of the e-mails that were potentially characterized as classified, so said fbi director comey yesterday, the truth of the matter is, that was a mistake. at least two of those e-mails were mischaracterized and actually did not contain classified information. so i think the real issue is that -- >> you're saying at least two. let's make sure we get the numbers straight. from this fbi review, what the director of the fbi said was 110 -- >> but he said there were a few -- >> 110 contained classified information that had markings on them. he said of the ones that didn't have markings, i want to read his exact quote here. this is what he said. he said any reasonable person in secretary clinton's position, or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding would have known that an unclassified
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system was no place for that conversation. >> so let's look at this. the state department's already come out today and said that what dr. comey said is incorrect. two of the e-mails that actually said that they were classified were incorrect. they were not classified e-mails, but they did have markings on them. >> doesn't hillary clinton owe this answer? if the fbi is saying 110 e-mails -- >> no, i think too many people that don't know enough about this are talking about it. >> do you think the fbi director doesn't know about this? >> i think that plenty of people on tv and some of my former colleagues in the house know nothing about this because they've chosen -- >> what about the fbi director, he's the one who said, 110 e-mails had classified information when they were sent. he's not just somebody on tv. he's the director of the fbi. >> what is that about? from my point of view, i had classified e-mails coming to me all the time -- >> he's saying these passed through the personal server, not
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the classified server. that's the problem he's raising. >> he's raising things and keep in mind what the secretary said from the beginning, that she wished she hadn't done this. that this was a mistake. i don't know what eemp mails he's talking about. the state department came back and said at least two of the e-mails that had classifications on them were actually not classified. it was a human error. so i think there's some question as to actually about these hundred of e-mails out of 30,000. >> does anything, though, in what he said and what he revealed yesterday concern you? >> of course it concerns me. but i'm also going to be somebody that's informed by the facts, not by the political part of this. and the truth of the matter is that the department of justice has made it very clear that there's not going to be a prosecution here, that there was no intent by the secretary. that is a key piece of this, there was no willful action on the part of the secretary to
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ignore the law or put secrets in jeopardy. that is the collective opinion of career prosecutors and fbi agents. and i'm willing to take them. >> the opinion expressed was -- and he said the reason for the recommendation of no prosecution was no intent, but he did say, this is careless -- >> but that's the law. >> his words were, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that, does that concern you? >> it concerns me issbecause mo people don't understand, if there's no header and footer that says it's classified, you're going to open an e-mail and see that somebody sent you something, probably mistakenly -- >> but if you're talking about 110, shouldn't you at some point figure out between zero and 110, that that is a problem? >> i think that's something the state department is working on with the fbi to understand what these things are. we don't know what they are. i don't think anybody in the public knows what they are. perhaps we'll find out. but what i find to be shameful
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is that my republican colleagues, my former colleagues in the house can't take the facts for an answer. can't take career prosecutors and agents for an answer because they presidecided they wanted ts to be a criminal activity and that's where they're going. >> thank you for the time tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. a lot more to get to tonight, including late word on what could soon be an endorsement from bernie sanders of hillary clinton and we'll be right back after this. ns i am a lot of things. i am his sunshine. i am his advocate. so i asked about adding once-daily namenda xr to his current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works differently. when added to another alzheimer's treatment, it may improve overall function and cognition. and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. vo: namenda xr doesn't change how the disease progresses.
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from afghanistan. >> tonight we take comfort in knows that the tide of war is receding. fewer of our sons and daughters are serving in we take comfort knowing that the tide of war is receding. fewer of our sons and daughters are serving in harm's way. we've ended our combat mission in iraq with 100,000 american troops already out of that country. and even as there will be dark days ahead in afghanistan, the light of a secure peace can be seen in the distance. these long wars will come to a responsible end. >> that was back in june of 2011. at that time, we had 100,000 troops in afghanistan. three years later yb in 2014, president obama went to the rose garden to announce that he would pull virtually all u.s. troops out of afghanistan by the end of 2016. sense those two announcements, the number of american troops in afghanistan has decreased to
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just under 10,000 american service members in afghanistan, until last fall, in october. when president obama announced that a u.s. military presence in afghanistan would be extended yet again. he announced that afghanistan was too tra guile. and instead of continuing the drawdown, we would keep the 10,000 troops there through most of 2016. after that announcement, president obama had not planned to take questions, but he did take one from a reporter who shouted out a question as he finished up about how disappoint onning it was for him to decide the troops could not yet come home. this was part of his answer. >> we're going to continually make adjustments to ebb sure that we give the best possibilities for success and i suspect that we will continue to evaluate this going forward, as will the next president. >> as will the next president. we're in our 15th year at war in afghanistan. now, that's the longest war we've ever fought.
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the plan for u.s. troops level in afghanistan for 2017 was to cut the forces by half from 10,000 down to 5,500. that was the plan until earlier this month when the top u.s. commander in afghanistan sent recommendations to the president on how many americans should remain in afghanistan next year, in 2017. today, president obama went to the roosevelt room to announce his updated decision on troop levels based on those recommendses. >> in january, the next u.s. president will assume the most solemn responsibility of the commander in chief. the security of the united states and the safety of the american people. the decision i'm making today ensures that my successor has a solid foundation for continued progress in afghanistan as well as the flexibility to address the threat of terrorism as it evolves. instead of going down to 5,500 troops by the end of this year,
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the united states will maintain prl 8,400 troops in afghanistan through the end of next year. i strongly believe it is in our national security interests, especially after all the pleasure and treasure we've invested in afghanistan over the years that we give our partners the best opportunity to succeed. >> president obama announcing he will keep more troops in afghanistan through 2017 for when the new president assumes office. the announcelity today was not a huge change in terms of numbers. it was, as the approximated said, more of an adjustment. symbolically, it's a important change. it means president obama does not get to end the war in afghanistan during his presidency. it means he does not get to bring back the troops and it means in one of his final acts as president he is sending more troops into that cob flikt in afghanistan at the same time we're sending troops back into iraq and now into syria,
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endorse hillary clinton before the democratic convention. that likelihood came one step closer to reality today when hillary clinton unveiled a deal to make in-state college tuition free for families who make less than $25,000 a year. and in the last hour with an interview with chris hayes on "all in," sanders praised hillary clinton while acknowledging a pending endorsement was likely. >> we are now working with the clinton campaign. we came together on higher education and let me congratulate her. i think this is an extraordinarily powerful proposal that will mean so much to millions and millions of young people. we're working on some other ideas. and i think at the end of the day, there is going to be a coming together and we're going to go forward together and not only defeat trump, but defeat him badly. >> that's key. so you're not denying reports
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there are talk bes a possible endorsement? >> that's correct. >> so that news tonight of an impending endorpsment comes after patience was wearing thin among democrats on capitol hill during a tense closed door meeting this morning. at least some house democrats booed sanders when he refused to unveil a line for his endorselity. one senior democrat complaining that sanders was squandering the movement he built with a self-object session that was totally on display. then again, the question might be asked at this point how much does a sanders endorsement matter? clinton took only four days to endorse oh bam that back in 2008, there were examples of times when it didn't happen at all. jerry brown in 1992 never endorsed bill clinton. but clinton went on to win easily that fall. while democrats spent the early part of the summer worrying about party unity amid polls showing hillary clinton neck and
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neck with donald trump since capturing the nomination 30 days ago. her lead was only expanded over trump. the presumptive republican nominee has spent the past month mired in controversy after controversy amid several missteps while clinton herself has been busing holding joint campaign appearances with heavyweights like elizabeth warren and next up sanders will join her on friday. all this while trump is outspending her on the air waves with, 15/1. so right now, democrats are feeling pretty good about a sanders endorsement. now it's over to lawrence o'donnell for the last word. >> hillary clinton went to atlantic city today to one of the ka secasinos bankrupted to highlight donald trump's