tonight on "all in" -- the world premiere of trump-gingrich. >> this is magic. you're now on facebook. >> it's fantastic. >> worldwide. >> good to be with you. >> number one continues auditioning number twos. as last night's veepstakes contestant bails on trump. >> i wasn't going to say anything. >> then -- >> his excuse for all this failure is that atlantic city just went downhill, that it's not his fault. but don't believe it. >> hillary clinton returns to the scene of the bankruptcies. >> he calls himself the king of debt, and he earned that title right here in a.c. >> senator cory booker on what happened when trump came to town. plus, my interview with senator bernie sanders on the fbi decision on hillary clinton, and why he was booed by fellow

democrats on the hill today. and another nightmare shooting caught on tape. >> they shot him? >> yes! >> oh, my goodness! >> searching for answers in the wake of the police shooting of alton sterling, when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. donald trump just wrapped up a classically unhinged performance at a rally in cincinnati, defending saddam hussein, accusing loretta inch of taking a bribe from the clintons and doubling down on a recent tweet that many viewed as anti-semitic. >> could have been a sheriff's star, a regular star. my boy comes home from school, he draws stars all over the place, i never said that's the star of david. behind it they had money. so they're racially profiling, not us, because why are they bringing this up?

why do they bring it up? >> i have a son-in-law who is jewish, my daughter is jewish, i have grandson that are jewish and i love them. >> newt gingrich joined him on the road and moments ago, trump all but promised him a job in a trump administration. >> newt has been my friend for a long time. and i'm not saying anything, and i'm not telling newt anything, but i can tell you in one form or another, newt gingrich is going to be involved with our government. that i can tell you. >> according to nbc news, new gingrich has been the top tier of trump's vp candidates, along with mike prince, chris christie, joni ernst, and bob corker. as of today, corker is off the list. after meeting with trump, he said i'm focused on iowa. she went on to recommend mike

pence for the job. corker met with him yesterday and at the podium, a mortified corker struggled to come up with a nice thing to say about his party's presumptive nominee. >> i wasn't going to say anything. i just came to visit. [ laughter ] but i have to say something. the rallies that i have back home aren't quite like this. >> pretty good. >> pretty cool. had a pretty remarkable day today. pretty remarkable day. you know, it says a lot about a person to meet their family. >> corker praised trump for his relationships, his kids, his employees. just minutes after he left the stage, trump said this. >> saddam hussein was a bad guy,

right? he was a bad guy. really bad guy. but you know what he did well? he killed terrorists. he did that so good. they didn't read them the rights. they didn't talk. they were a terrorist, it was over. >> since we often fact-check trump claims, it is true. saddam hussein did not read people rights. corker who chairs the senate foreign relations committee. he said he was at the back of the room and didn't hear trump's comments on saddam hussein. as for the rest of the running mates, he met with pence, christie, an early trump endorser who is on vacation in italy. and hillary clinton just couldn't resist a dig. >> if your governor would start doing his job instead of -- instead of following donald

trump around, holding his coat, maybe we could really get new jersey's economy moving again. >> today in an effort to ease concerns over its fundraising operation, trump campaign announced new totals for the month of june. it's not an official filing, but according to the trump campaign, they raised almost $55 million last month. noticeably missing from that announcement, any filing with the s.e.c. converting that big loan from the primary into a donation and a key number. how much money the campaign actually has on hand. joining me now, molly vault, political correspondent for "the atlantic." i wanted to talk about the fundamental raising because i think it's interesting, and we'll see what the accounting shakes out. but i have to start with the speech. i've been watching for 13 months for my sins and that was the most unhinged thing i've seen from him.

he was all over the place. it was like charlie sheen during his #winning tour. >> hasn't trump told you that we're going to be winning so much that you're going to get tired of winning? sorry to see you're already tired of winning, chris. but you can beg him to stop winning and he's not going to said. i don't know that this is the most bonkers we've seen trump. i've also been watching trump for a long time, and this sort of free associating. number one, it makes him entertaining. >> that's true. >> it keeps people tuning in, keeps the cable networks playing his rallies live, because you never know what he's going to say. and it keeps his latest outrage in the news. so whatever the last outrage was is in the rearview mirror. it's not clear that's a good thing in the general election when there is, according to most republican leaders, a better message he could be driving, if he had any interest in talking about something other than sort of the latest thing to pop into his head. >> so this is exactly right.

to me, the problem is, there's two different incentives, you're right, he understands, he's better tv if he's off the cuff and he's unpredictable. but better tv does not mean better candidate. there's this great mitch mcconnell line, he's said to trump, put me down for boring. there's a reason mitch mcconnell has had some success in his political life, even though he's not particularly entertaining. and i think right now, trump is caught in this -- he's not polling well. the one thing he knows is to generate attention. he's good at that, but he starts tonight by relitigating star of david gate and saddam hussein, which is not what he should be talking about, based on the opinion of every professional opinion in the universe. >> right. but he's a natural entertainer for the crowds. he gets the feedback, processes it in the moment, and i think the worry of people like mitch

mcconnell is not necessarily that trump isn't willing to become a more controlled and professional candidate, but that he actually lacks the ability, that we've seen him try to be self-disciplined and fail and he loses control in the moment and does what feels right. that's the real problem. even if he wanted to be the candidate mitch mcconnell would like to see, he lacks the self-control to do that. >> yes, and i think -- my theory here is, the more controlled he is during the day, the less he can tweet and do all these other things, it's all bottled up for the one moment he gets to let trump be trump. and i just think that's a disaster waiting to happen, particularly at the convention for the republican party. >> it will make a very entertaining convention. i thought four years ago, it would be hard to top clint eastwood in the chair. >> ooh, that's -- >> but we may get a more entertaining convention this time. didn't trump say it would be showbiz?

so at the very least, people will tune in to watch. >> that's true. thank you, molly ball. in a new report is to be scene, trump could be facing bigger problems. according to the "wall street journal," anti-trump forces in the gop may have the numbers to pull off a coup at the convention in two weeks. kendall, i don't want to get into groundhog day, they're going to take it away from him, we were doing the delegate math. so my question is, what do you got? how many people do you got? is this real? >> oh, this is definitely real. let me tell you, that as founder of free the delegates, i love the fact that the sedation they tranquilized donald trump with is wearing off, because that helps our movement. the more off the cuff he is, the more generated support we get. what's been a large game-changer for us, we married with

delegates unbound, and they bought $3 million into this game to be able to organize a ground floor fight and to be able to have a command center to where we're going to be able to communicate and directly get our plan of action to the delegates that are on the floor. we now have people that are points of contact within each delegation. we have a leadership team that is absolutely second to none. we have a whip organization that has been financed that is going to be effective and we are going to see a convention for the first time since 1976. >> when i read the wall street yournl piece, it had a -- are you telling me they don't have the whip count right now to get him over on the first ballot right now? >> whether i first started, i knew his support was soft. you heard him admit that when he said, i have so many delegates, i stopped counting.

that tells you he doesn't have an accurate vote count. we're polling those votes off. there are people that are not wanting to come public with it. so even doesn't even know how many votes we have, because they're actually being threatened, they're being physically threatened by trump surrogates, which is what i received e-mails about today. >> wait a second, i want to stop you right there. because that's a very intense charge. you say, there are delegates that are being physically threatened by trump surrogates. what do you mean by that? >> there was a delegate physically threatened by a trump surrogate for the fact that he was going to unbind -- >> in person? over e-mail? >> pardon? >> in person by the surrogate? over e-mail? what? >> it was -- i'm going to release that at the time when he is comfortable releasing that story. but this is not news to us, because even all the very strong pushback that they have been getting from the rnc surrogates

and the trump surrogates and the fact that they're being coerced and threatened and having their credentials yanked and we had to have attorneys through our legal defense fund, come to their defense and realize what they're doing, they're actually penalizing these delegates in advance for what they're going to do. all they have to do is be thinking about or talking about the fact that they're going to unbind and you have them being the thought police and penalizing them in advance for something they haven't even done yet. if we want to talk about penalties after the fact and i'm hearing they're trying to get sanctions against me for voicing my first amendment rights and exercising my right to unbind -- >> i wouldn't doubt it. >> but that's a different argument. they're being penalized prior to any action. >> we'll keep checking back with you, if you pull this off, it will be one of the greatest political upsets of all time. >> thank you very much. still to come, bernie sanders is meeting with hillary clinton next week. is an endorse coming?

i spoke to the senator a few minutes ago. made some news. but first, clinton attacks donald trump's language history of bankruptcies in atlantic city. and new jersey governor cory booker joins me to talk as well. don't go anywhere. get ready for the rio olympic games

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x1 will change the way you experience nbcuniversal's coverage of the rio olympic games. call or go online today to switch to x1. donald trump, he walked away with millions. and here's what he says about the whole experience. he actually brags about it. atlantic city was a very good cash cow for me for a long time. the money i took out of there was incredible. think about it. the money he took out of here. that says everything you need to know about donald trump. he got rich and got out. and he thinks that's something to be proud of. he didn't just take advantage of investors, he took advantage of working people as well. >> hillary clinton traveled to

atlantic city today, stood on the boardwalk outside of the former trump plaza hotel and casino and argued that donald trump is very good at enriching himself at the expense of others. the castle was renamed trump marina and all three were reorganized and filed for bankruptcy in 2004. the company declared bankruptcy again in 2009 and trump quit. after the company went bankrupt again, he defended his business practices, saying, i made a lot of money in atlantic city, i hope you can say in your article that mr. trump sold out a long time ago and did well. i made a lot of money. also saying, i have used the chapter laws of our country in four instances -- professor of urban policy defines trump os quote, effective and commonly used practice another way.

mr. trump created his business empire using what is called ponzi financing. joining me now, cory booker from the great state of new jersey. donald trump said he got out before everything crashed, it wasn't his fault, it was mismanaged, don't blame him. >> there are casinos that are thriving, creating jobs. donald trump was just the opposite. he says he's going to run our country like he ran his business. he was a job killer. not only that, but he stiffed people for their bill, he hurt small businesses. he hurt select committees and he hurt the city. this is someone whose record is clear. if he's going to run this

company like atlantic city, we all should run away from donald trump. >> this is what secretary clinton had to say about the governor of your state today. take a listen. >> now it is no secret that atlantic city has gone through some tough times. and if your governor would start doing his job instead of -- instead of following donald trump around holding his coat, maybe we could really get new jersey's economy moving again. >> is that a fair characterization of the governor of your state? >> well, look, frankly, my relationship with chris christie, i could write a dissertation on your disagreements. a lot of problems with urban policy that he and i had patent disagreements on. but to me, the larger picture of what she was saying, atlantic city's hurting right now, and it's unfortunate that you had

donald trump come to that city, not create value, not create worth, not create jobs, but literally contribute to people being put out of business. he stiffed the little guy, he stiffed the small business, and frankly, he stiffed the city. so this is really -- i spent a lot of time working with atlantic city when casinos closed, working with them from my position as senator, trying to help them create landing pads for people, or helping their fire departments keep firefighters employed. what atlantic city really needed was business people who did what they said they were going to do. donald trump was big on promises, little on delivery. not only did he not do good for the city, but he hurt a lot of people, and that's not what america needs. >> back in 2013, i believe, ivanka trump was set to host a fund-raiser for you, i think that happened. do you have a relationship with trump and the trump family? >> i know ivanka and jared kushner, which is the

son-in-law, obviously, of donald, and have good relationships with them. and i value them. i consider them friends. to me, this is about a much larger picture -- >> can i stop you there. you consider them friends. honestly -- i don't know if you can answer this question honestly. but do you have a conversation with them, like what the heck is going on with your father? >> no, i haven't had that conversation. in many ways, that would be disrespectful. i have such a painful understanding of how he ran businesses. 252 examples of donald trump short-changing businesses, short-changing folks and this is all around our state. there's a lot of pain that he caused and as he got rich, was able to declare bankruptcy, and walk away with millions and leaving people in a lot of pain. so for me, again, this is a focus on who should lead this country. if you want somebody that's going to rack up american debt,

kill american jobs and in many ways, fail like he did in atlantic city, that's your guy. but that's not what we want. we want somebody with a different vision about bringing people together, creating valu creating worth, not just another billionaire making more money off the backs of hard-working people, who in this case very clearly got screwed. >> yeah, there's no bankruptcy for the president of the united states. senator cory booker, thanks so much for joining us. appreciate it. still to come, outrage in baton rouge, louisiana, after a deadly police shooting caught on tape. up next, a massive update to our trump's list, taking on the responsibility of keeping up the stories that would be disqualifying for any other candidate. the latest after this short break.

>> it has been three weeks since we latest updated our trump's last ten, a tally of had any other candidate said them or done them, would have been the end, but not for donald trump. the bottom five stories on our list are about to get pushed off. take a moment to remember them before they leave the board. number six, trump promising to donate a million to veterans groups. number seven, the "new york times" report on his crude behavior with women and preoccupation with their bodies. number eight, revelations that trump pretended to be a publicist named john miller to brag to reporters about donald trump. number nine, trump's butler saying president obama should be hanged.

and number ten, trump's evolving muslim ban, from a policy to suggestion to a ban on travel to specific countries, but who knows what it will be next week. we bid goodbye to those stories to make room for five new ones. number four, word the trump institute used plagiarized lessons to peddle get rich schemes. number two, an anti-semitic tweet featuring a star of david going out on trump's personal twitter account. and our new number one, trump last night hayling saddam hussein for the fact he killed terrorists without futsing around with trials and what not. >> saddam hussein was a bad guy.

he was a really bad guy. but you know what he did well, he killed terrorists. he did that so good, they didn't read them rights, they didn't talk. they were a terrorist, it was over. >> up next, bernie sanders was booed by house democrats at a closed door meeting yesterday. i'll talk to him about what happened and his continued presence in the democratic race right after this break. >> i'm alex trebek. if you're age 50 to 85, i have an important message about security. write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. the lock i want to talk to you about isn't the one on your door. this is a lock for your life insurance, a rate lock, that guarantees your rate can never go up at any time, for any reason. but be careful. many policies you see do not have one, but you can get a lifetime rate lock through the colonial penn program.

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hillary clinton today took a big step towards a policy favored by her presidential primary rival, bernie sanders. announcing plans to eliminate college tuition at in-state public colleges and universities for families with annualncom i under $125,000, among other proposals. while clinton stopped short of sanders' call for tuition to be free for all students, the announcement moves the two candidates closer on a major sanders' priority. >> i thank secretary clinton for introducing this proposal, which, in my view, if implemented, will have a very profound impact on the future of our country. >> with the democratic national convention less than three weeks away, sanders has not yet endorsed clinton and the frustration seems to be

mounting. with frustrated democrats pressing him during a tense question-answer session on whether he would endorse clinton and help foster party unity. they're in talks for a possible endorsement event as early as next tuesday in new hampshire. i have the perfect person to ask about that, vermont senator and democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders. let me ask you about this closed-door meeting. did you get booed? >> i think there were a few people who were booing. i think most of the people were sympathetic. what i say to the people who boo booed, you can boo me all you want. i'm going to make sure that we transform this country. that's what 13 million voters wanted to see happen. and one of the things you just mentioned where there's widespread support all across this country is to end the absurdity of hundreds of thousands of bright young people not being able to go to college and millions of others leaving school deeply in debt. all of our people should be able to go to public colleges and

university tuition-free. secretary clinton had a different approach, but a strong approach. there was a coming together of the two approaches and i think we have something that will revolutionize education in america. that says that over a four-year period, starting at 85,000, going up to 125,000, people under 125,000, will be able to send their kids to college or university, public college or university, tuition-free. this is a pretty good step forward. >> and on policy grounds i agree with you and it does seem to be -- it's come in the middle of where universal or steeply means tested as the secretary had recommended. but the broader question is this. there is an opposition to the death penalty in the democratic party platform which is out of sync with the nominee. the nominee supports it, the platform doesn't. there's a call for a $15 minimum

wage, there's this college proposal in hillary clinton. do you understand people looking at this and saying, look, hillary clinton got more votes, at a certain point there are going to be some policy differences between the two of you that she's not going to come around on, because if she did, she would have run on them to begin with. at some point, you have won your substantive victories. >> let me just say this. i got in the race obviously, to try to win. we're going to philadelphia and hillary clinton has more votes than i do. she is the presumptive nominee and that is just basically the fact. but what my job is to do, is to do everythg that can to address the major crises facing this country in terms of income and wealth inequality, the 40-year decline of the american middle class, the horrific crisis that we face in terms of climate change and i'm going to use all of the leverage that i have to try to make those changes and

i'm also on record and will do everything that i can, chris, and i'm a pretty hard worker at these things, to make sure that donald trump does not become president of the united states of america. because that would be an unmitigated disaster, not only for our country, but for the world. so i'm going to do that, and we are now working with the clinton campaign. we came together on higher education. and let me congratulate her. i think this is an extraordinarily powerful proposal that will mean so much to millions and millions of young people. we're working on some other ideas, and i think at the end of the day, there is going to be a coming together, and we're going to go forward together and not only defeat trump, but defeat him badly. >> so that's key. you're not denying the report that there are talks about a possible endorsement. >> that's correct. >> okay. let me ask you this. we've known each other for a long time. my read on you is that you are doing this for the substantive reasons that you say you are. there are people who feel that it isn't.

there's a quote today and it's a blind quote, but i'd like you to respond. it was frustrating about the meeting because he's squandering the movement he built with self-obsession that was totally on display. and this is something -- people feel, is this about ego, is this about you, bernie sanders, not wanting to let go? >> chris, what percentage of democratic members of the house of representatives supported me, do you know? >> a tiny percentage, maybe two or three. >> that's right. so i walked into a room from 95% of the people supported hillary clinton, people who supported me in the room by the way, were very kind and generous, as were many others. i don't know how to tell you this, don't believe everything you read in the papers. the idea there was massive hostility is just not true. >> but there are people -- >> i'm sorry, go-ahead. >> i agree with you. don't believe everything you read in the paper. but what is clear, there are people who are frustrated, who think it's about your ego and i just want you to respond to that. >> well, i've been doing what i've been doing now for the last

many, many years -- many decades. doing my best to take on the big money interests, to take on the greed of wall street. that's what i do. so for those people who say it's about my ego, well, i respectfully disagree. what it is about, that you got 47 million people in this country living in poverty. it's about the fact that we're the only major country on earth that doesn't guarantee health care to all people as a right. it's about the fact that we have millions of workers trying to make it on 9, 10 bucks an hour and they couldn't do it, which is why we have to raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour. so i think what sometimes gets disguised is political differences. some guy came up to me in the caucus, he's pro-tpp, well, i'm going to do everything i can to make sure the tpp does not come to the floor of the house. i'm sure he was not all that happy about that. so sometimes personality becomes

infused with political differences. senator sanders, thanks for coming by. >> thank you. coming up, as republicans drag their feet through endorsements of donald trump, a common trend of silent protest emerges. what that is after the break. thing 1 tonight, it's no

secret donald trump loves putting his name on everything. so it has to be tough putting his name on failed business venture after failed business venture. >> i signed a pledge, put my name on it, and i said i would support the republican nominee, and that's what i intend to do. >> as i've said, i would support the nominee of the party. >> i will be supporting the republican nominee. >> i plan on supporting the republican nominee at this time. >> i would love to get to the point where i can support the

republican nominee, but for me, at least, it's going to take some time. >> the time has come for one republican to express his support for donald trump, not on camera, of course. the backing came in tweet form and it did not mention trump's name. things 2, the identity of trump's reluctant booster, in 60 seconds.

i will suspend my campaign immediately. i encourage other republican presidential candidates to consider doing the same so that the voters can focus on a limited number of candidates who can offer a positive, conservative alternative to the current front-runner. >> so, lots of people seem to have trouble saying donald trump's name, governor scott walker of wisconsin appears to be one of them. once seen as a rising star in the republican party, he dropped out of the 2016 presidential contest before a single vote was even cast. then in april, walker played a role in the contest that was the high water mark of never trumpism, endorsing ted cruz ahead of the wisconsin primary.

and cruz won wisconsin, but dropped out of the presidential contest a little more than a month later. just a few weeks ago, walker said, it's just sad in america that we have such poor choices right now. now it appears he's making a slight adjustment to his previously held position. this week, we learned that walker will speak at the party's convention in cleveland. the announcement coming after trump told "the new york times" that people who don't support him should just stay home. so it should be of little surprise, following the news that scott walker would speak at the convention, came this news. last suggest, i said i'd support the gop nominee. it's now clear who the rnc kel gats will vote to nominee and he is better than she is. now the question becomes, will walker actually say trump's name at trump's own convention. late this afternoon,

attorney general loretta lynch announced there will be no

charges brought against hillary clinton or her aides relating to the use of her private e-mail server while she was secretary of state. officially accepting the recommendation from the fbi. clinton's press secretary responded, tweeting, with the ag accepting director comey's recommendation, this case is resolved, no matter republicans' attempts to continue playing politics. republicans now have an option of how they want to play their cards here. they can take comey's criticism of clinton saying her actions were not criminal, but extremely careless and build that into a critique of her character, or they can build some theory of a big cover-up, saying there was political pressure or manipulation of the investigation behind the scenes. the problem with that, there's

no theory of corruption or cover-up that does not directly impune the integrity of comey himself. so if the story republicans choose to tell the american people is that this investigation was corrupt, at some point, they are going to have to call james comey a liar.

protests have erupted from baton rouge, louisiana, at the

shooting of 37-year-old alton sterling by police early tuesday morning. outrage led to the protests which began yesterday and have continued into today. they intensified when a video of the incident was released, which we will show you shortly. earlier today, the justice department announced it will ffingt investigate the case in baton rouge. the shooting occurred shortly after midnight, early tuesday morning, when police responded to this disprach. -- dispatch. >> that location was the triple s food mart on north foster drive. the confrontation was captured on a cell phone video that was released later in the day. the video does not capture, and we don't know what preceded this use of force. alton sterling is wearing a red

shirt in the video. one of the two officers appears to shout "he's got a gun." >> he's got a gun! gun! >> oh, my god. >> they shot him? >> yes! >> well, that video that caused the swift reaction from the public and justice department, a second video has been released. the owner of the triple s store, said he saw one of the officers remove a gun from sterling's pocket after the shooting. we are showing only a portion of the video before the shots are fired.

>> he's got a gun! >> alton sterling died from multiple gunshot wounds at the scene. sterling is a father of five. the mother of one of his children offered an impassioned response. >> the individuals involved in his murder took away a man with children, who depended upon their daddy on a daily basis. this will not go unjusticed, it will not go unnoticed. >> the two police officers have been placed on administrative leaving pending the investigation. baton rouge police chief said sterling was armed, but when later asked, he referred that question to federal investigators. mr. mcclanahan, let me begin

with you. i just saw reporting in "the washington post" that indicated one of the videos taken was taken by a group that takes video of police encounters precisely because of some of the issues with the baton rouge police. is this something that's a long-standing complaint with this department? >> good afternoon, how you all doing? i say this. this act is the culmination of something that's been looming for years. at some point in time, just a matter of time before it erupted. what you're seeing now is an eruption of years of fear, years of being beat up, harassed, thrown in jail, wrongfully prosecuted and now shot and killed.

>> you can see in the frustration and anger of folks down there, just immediately after this, that it looked like a situation, it reminded me in some ways of ferguson, where clearly there are long standing frustrations with the police force before this video is released. >> yeah, yeah. you're right. it's a culture. it's a culture that prevails amongst the police in the city of baton rouge, and it has to stop. this death, sad to say this death had to happen, but something was going to trigger these people to let the community know, let the powers know that be, that they're sick and tired of being sick and tired and living in fear in their own community and their own home. something has to change. >> michael mcclanahan, i want you to stay there. jelani, a lot of people tweeting

about this to exhaustion. i think we had this period where we had cell phone videos of things and the tree wasn't falling in the forest with no one to hear it -- meaning broader community, white folks basically. people have heard it. and i saw a lot of people expressing last night, okay, here we are still. >> right. >> what more -- what's your reaction? >> one of the things that i think is interesting, like, video was never a panacea. we've known that since rodney king. we've known that and saw it again with eric garner and tamir rice. you can have video and it still not culminate in a fundamental change or people being given justice. so i don't think there is really a panacea for this. but it is horrific and it's exhausting and it's draining and it's frustrating to see this type of scenario again and again and again pop up.

seeming not learning anything from the previous incident to that. >> i want to play a clip from your front line special. take a look at this. >> i'm not doing nothing! i'm not doing nothing. come on, man! >> stop, stop, stop. >> you're making me man. you're gonna get hurt. >> i swear to god i didn't -- >> stop, stop. >> just just saying -- >> stop. >> i didn't do nothing. >> just stop, sir. just stop. sir, you're not under arrest. just for your safety -- >> this is a guy who wasn't doing anything. >> on his way home. >> i watch that now and i think, thank god me got out of that alive. >> right. >> and also this public announcement on handcuffing you for your safety, the police officers in this case, saying, gun, gun, it almost feels like it's -- how do you interpret that?

>> the thing i found shocking, one, there was a report the person had a gun. but also, this is louisiana. there are lots of people with guns on their person. how does this turn into this person being shot? they had subdued him. he was flat on his back on the ground. it's hard to square that with the idea that this person poses a mortal threat to you. >> not only was he on the ground, but the video, the part we didn't show you, one witness said they remove a gun from his pocket, so it was not in his hand. mr. mcclanahan, speak to the gun here, to the extent that police can say they were threatened and there was a gun, what is your reaction to them saying that? >> well, police are trained to handle any and all scenarios without using lethal force. they could have -- they had already tased a young man.

they had his arms. they could have put the handcuffs on him and taken the gun from him. they could have asked him -- 20 million things they could have done besides shoot him. but i promise you, to get into the mind of those police officers, they came out with killing on their minds. they was on the scene maybe a minute. they tased him, jumped on him, beat him up, and killed him. they didn't say, sir, please, none of that. they murdered him. >> i can't speak to the state of mind of the police officers. what i can speak to, jelani, this is something that comes through in your reporting. these interactions, we hope there's the proper due process and folks are called to account. but they are the result of an extraordinary number of

interactions with police. >> that's right. it's almost like the culmination of this is inevitable. and then there's the weird kind of my yopia that comes to say, well this person has a gun. when newtown happened, wayne la peer said, the only person that protects you from a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. in baton rouge, the per capita is almost double what it is in chicago. this is someone who faces a real threat. saying this person is armed is also the reason the police may kill you. >> and also, if he looked fb resisting, maybe it was not irrational to resist, given the final act that happened there. thank you both. that's "all in" for this evening. the rachel maddow show starts right now with steve kornacki.

this hour. rachel has the night off. and we'll start tonight with the decade that won't leave us, the 1990s. they are back. bill and hillary clinton, they were big back then, that i big now. donald trump was big back then, he's big now. now new gingrich, he's back too. >> is there a single person here who believes that if you had done what hillary clinton had done that you would not be prosecuted? >> let me tell you why i'm so proud to be here. i used to study and teach history. i spent a little bit of time in politics. i have never -- i know of no example in american history of a moment where the leader and the american people came together as