>> get out of here. >> that's the most persistent fly i've ever seen. nice. >> where is he? there he is. >> let's staple him. >> the democrats -- there was a mosquito. i don't want mosquitos around me. i don't like mosquitos. i don't like those mosquitos. i never did. okay, speaking of mosquitos. hello, hillary, how are you doing?

>> i think vintage trump is back. has anyone noticed that? >> he's got his groove back. >> it is thursday, july 7th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set and former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. msnbc political analyst and university of public policy informer congressman herald ford jr. >> so smart. >> good morning. >> and on capitol hill, managing editor and co-host of "all due respect" mark halperin. >> you've done what you did last night what you've done before. text, text, call, call. it's like, watch trump on tv. >> turning it on. >> i have to say, even bill

kristol was saying afterwards, that was something. that was something. that was amazing. he's like i'm not sure what i saw, but that was amazing. >> i'll tell you what you saw. you saw him connecting with the crowd in a way that no other politician in the history of politics that we know ever could. you acan't imagine a republican candidate going up there and talking about his golf course in turnberry without getting killed. remember the car elevator and all sorts of things that plagued mitt romney. this guy talks about his turnberry golf course and everybody in the audience is with him about the construction project and about his son and they actually feel they could own a golf course in turnberry. he connects. he connects. >> he does. but i guess the question still begs itself, you've got these golden nuggets that are being handed to you. >> yes. >> so, instead of riff on chuck todd, riff on that.

>> chuck todd had to come around a little bit on the show yesterday. but he was, he nailed hillary clinton to the wall on this stuff. >> you're talking about the tale of two speeches. the speeches that the audience sees and yesterday we were very critical, but mika was not, of not focusing enough on hillary and then later on we ran the part of him going through the routine. how long can you really talk about grandchildren? how long can you really talk about golf? that's your two and a half minutes. what else did they talk about for 25, 26, 28 minutes? everybody going oh, they're supporting donald trump. they're racists, this bigots. no, we're just talking about what we saw last night on television. we talked about, mark haleprin, a guy reinnenergizedreenergized.

is this guy really 70 years old? the audience was eating this up. this is a tale of two campaigns. hillary who's sort of sludging through a hard time right now and donald trump who seems to be having the time of his life and then also the tale of two speeches. the speak thech that you see an speech the next morning where we pick out something he said last night. the defending of that star. repeatedly. that's the narrative. while i think a lot of us miss what the audience and what voters saw last night. >> this was an event that was, as you said, innenergized. mika picked up on television what i saw in the room. just in a big open space north of downtown cincinnati. it felt like a trump event from last fall or winter when he is connecting with the audience in the room. look, it's easy as michael did and certainly justification for

it to pick out parts of it and say he's off message. he's not disciplined. but he is, as you also said, delivering sound bites. he understands the outrage that certain people have with james comey and hillary clinton. he understands it in his gut and he'll drive all the way to fall and he is focused on his vp pick and focused on the convention and focused on the debates. he's there mentally, i think. >> some people are watching this show. certain people don't turn somersaults and say i thought they were offended by what donald trump said. yes, we have been. explain what was different last night and the night before. there appears to be a new energy there. like you said, an energy from last fall. >> if donald trump is going to win this race, he's going to have to make the race about hillary clinton. not make it a referendum on

hillary clinton. what we've shown in his rally in north carolina and cincinnati last night is that he has a sense of what the country doesn't like about her and he's conveying it. the digressions are not smart. i agree with michael and others and say the digressions. you're making trouble for yourself. they're going to get trouble and some coverage. the last two nights show a guy who is engaged in this race who is conveying to voters and to elites that he has a sense of what it will take to win even though he's still a flawed candidate. >> there seems to be a joy back into his speaking style. front page of "new york times." hillary clinton adopts sanders' idea. she's trying to come close to the sanders. supporters, which you would think she could use. congress is scheduled tahear from the fbi director this morning. this after the justice department opted not to bring any charges against hillary

clinton. james comey will testify about his recommendation not to prosecute her for mishandling classified information with her private e-mail system. the house oversight and government reform committee will also hear from the inspectors' general from the state department and intelligence community whose referral to the justice department kicked off the investigation last summer. attorney general loretta lynch is expected to answer questions from the house judiciary committee next week. she met with comey and members of the investigative team who were unanimous in recommending that the clinton case be closed. house speaker paul ryan is demanding swift action for the director of national intelligence, james clapper to bar clinton from the party nominees are used to getting. >> look, i was on the ticket in 2012. after the convection, you get the full, deep classified information as part of

transition and as part of being a nominee. i think the dni clapper should deny hillary clinton access to classified information during this campaign given how she so recklessly handled classified information. with no indictment occurring or a discussion or a call for administrative action, i think it's the least we can do given how reckless she was in handling classified information. look, i think that's something the administration should do on its own, but we'll look into something we can do, as well. >> to bar her from having intelligent access to any classified information. >> she's the nominee of the democratic party. >> the fbi director said she was reckless in how she handled classified information. you and i would not be given access to it. >> i understand the politics of

it. >> i am just talking the facts of it. >> politics that go along with the facts. i don't deny the facts. james comey which is unimpeachable. he indicated it was his recommendation not to move forward with an indictment. now, he made it very clear that she, mrs. clinton, secretary clinton and many of her deputies were careless in the use of information. >> and he talked about that being -- that there would be administrative actions. >> that was not his place. >> but they say this could be an administrative action that would fit his scathing political indictment of her. >> if she's the nominee of the democratic party and selects the person to run with, much like mr. romney selected speaker ryan. how do you deny the nominee of the party who could be elected president, perhaps you can put some of the safe guard around it. secondly, she didn't share any of this information outside of people. i'm not defending what she did at all, but i do think we have

to look at the facts and look at it carefully how she was careless in transferring this information. >> i get your point and i thought you made it really well yesterday on this show, but it's not going to happen. number one, congress can't prevent the briefings. >> the intel community can't. >> we are talking about, we are talking about setting precedence. this isn't like something we haven't been through before. we always -- you go through a lot to get classified information. >> ultimately a white house call. the white house will decide whether or not that happeneds and they're not going to do that to hillary clinton which is why i'll take a contrarrian view to the table on the speech last night. i think the argument against the facts, as you stated them. the facts are powerful against hillary clinton and not art articulating that and getting off on the side show issues in defending the star.

to me is like politically, why would you do that when you have something that is perfect for you to go after the fundamental flaw in hillary clinton, which is nobody trusts her. nobody trusts her. >> but that's the stronger point and that's what i was thinking about. you're right, herald, at the end of the day the white house is not going to shut hillary clinton off from these -- >> why not? >> anybody else would be shut off. >> the clintons live by different standard. >> so, we know that. >> how long does that happen? so, the rules that apply to the rest of the world do not apply. >> it's a different kind -- >> part 47. >> really? >> i'm not arguing that they should prevent it, they're not going to. >> i don't know if you -- >> i agree. i don't think so. >> look, what would you recommend they do? >> i'm not recommending anything. logically as if this is a human

being and not someone who for years and years and years and years we've just decided is in a different category of humanity. >> let's face it, james comey. let's face it, james comey treated hillary different than he would have treated anybody else. david ignatius there is a different standard that comey decided to place on hillary clinton than they would have placed on anyone else. that's what david was reporting. >> what was the basis for that? >> talked to people in the fbi. because she was hillary clinton and the presumptive democratic nominee and that there would be a higher standard for her. i don't think there would be higher standard for her. if they decide she gets access and cheryl mills should never get within 1,000 miles of classified information ever again. >> it's disgusting that an attorney would be that reckless.

somebody who has been in government long enough to know better. neither hillary clinton nor all the people around her should be within 1,000 miles of classified information. if you don't take my word for it, talk to anybody in the intel community to see just how reckless. >> we don't know if that's going to happen or not. cut her off. they're motgoing to cut her off. >> none of us at this table would have the benefit of a couple things. having a meeting with the fbi on a holiday weekend. >> how about going and having a meeting with the attorney general. >> by the way, after the clintons tell her in the new york times that they're considering keeping her on as a general. oh, my goodness. >> i'm not talking about, i thought president clinton was out of line. i thought you were talking about cheryl mills. >> we're talking about all of it. >> let's deal with the facts.

president clinton was out of line there. i think joe and michael may be right. i don't the answer to that. perhaps they should be and we'll learn more. i happen to agree with you on that issue and mrs. clinton issue and i don't agree whether secretary clinton is cut off from intel briefings. >> she's not going to be. i want to talk more about this trump thing. >> okay. >> and sort of play it out here. okay. well, show a little more. and then i want to talk about this because i understand what you're saying. but i think donald trump, i don't think it's a mistake that he's had like a 66-minute rambling, whatever, a couple nights ago and they played it all on all the networks and then last night he was on for how long? an hour or so. >> at least. >> i think he's doing it on purpose. he's dominant. and i think it's working. i've been harshly critical and

he'll lose a general election the last two nights, though. >> joy back. >> i've seen it and this is the thing that we don't get in new york and washington, but he is speaking, again, to all those people he was speaking to six months ago. >> is he speaking to new people? >> i think so. >> that's the number we have to look and see. >> take a look. >> take a look. would it work if he was running against joe biden? he's running against a woman s w who whose approval rating -- >> like lying. everyone at this table did hillary clinton lie? you have to say yes. even herald. he would have three points as to why maybe he wouldn't think that way. >> don't say that about herald. by the way, herald ford understands donald trump's appeal better --

>> he also understands reality. >> so, i would agree with you. the hour -- no, i recognize that. >> you want to get in my way? you want to talk about this? >> here's donald trump talking. we'll just stay out of the way. >> 66 minutes he was great. >> now, we have false statement number three. there are many. i don't want to bore you with too many. in her testimony to congress, hillary clinton said there was nothing more classified on my e-mails either sent or received, right? she said that. you heard it, we heard it, we all heard it. the lawyers doing the sorting for secretary clinton in 2014 did not individually read the content of all of her e-mails before destroying them. what's going on, folks? what's going on? i mean, it's very sad. you know, it's very sad.

i said, bad guy, saddam hussein. bad guy. then i said, again. saddam hussein is a bad guy. but, he did one thing well. he killed terrorists. right? it's okay. just a quick statement. i wake up and i turn on the television. donald trump loves saddam husse hussein. he loves saddam hussein. and i don't love saddam hussein. i hate saddam hussein but he was good at killing terrorists and now terrorist people who want to be terrorists they go into iraq and i said last night, it's the harvard. it's the harvard university. it's the harvard of terrorism. so, one of my guys who's married to a jewish woman. this is a very fine person. he put out a tweet talking about

crooked hillary clinton. and on the tweet was a star. a star. like a star. and i said, oh, because when i looked at it it, i didn't think anything. all of a sudden it turned out to be in the mind of the press only, because it could have been a sheriff. it could have been a regular star. behind it they had money. there is money behind it. actually, they're racially profiling. they're profiling. not us because why are they bringing this up? why do they bring it up? i have a son-in-law who is jewish. my daughter is jewish. i have fwragrandchildren that a jewish and i love them. i love them. the star, which is a star, when they told me the star of david. i said, you've got to be kidding. how sick are they? you shouldn't have taken it down. they took the star down. i said, too, bad, you should have left it up. i would have rather defended it and say, no, that's not the star

of david, just a star. also about corrupt hillary. corrupt hillary. she is the one that started the dialogue. you know why? because she wanted to get off the fbi. >> don't think too hard. >> mark halperin, you were there and then brought up the disney sticker book that had the same star on it. there's the disney sticker book that had the same star on there. so, tell us exactly what we saw last night. >> i mean, look, there's no conventional political consultant in either party that would have approved that speech and those digressions. but if trump, look, if trump has a chance to win and another reason we're talking about this are his numbers going to improve? if he does, it is going to be vintage trump. not just where he energizes but also confidence and also entertaining and also ability to

convey the people that he's different. he's not going to be politically correct or business as usual. and he's going to defend himself and he's going to lash out at hillary clinton. i have no idea how voters in cincinnati experienced that speech. i suspect they weren't all watching it all live. a lot of what is going to happen now, he has to do the fundamentals at the daily performance matters. pick a good running mate and have a great convention and win the first debate. if he does those things, i think he'll go ahead in the polls and the performances like that. that's how he has to perform. that is better for him than the way he was just a couple weeks aago. >> no consistency because jared puts out, and then donald talks about jared but then says we should have kept the star off. you know, the second i saw it, i thought it was star of david.

so, yeah, okay, they use the same star in microsoft and disney, whatever. why dance that close to the line? you don't think it is. take it down, keep a circle. >> i don't want to argue the star because i don't want to make it worse. but i will tell you one other thing that happened before before we go to break, he shined a spotlight on newt gingrich who was there several times. and apresenaapprentice style. he might, but whatever he does, he's going to be involved. got to talk to his wife. >> bob corker both took themselves out of the line. >> just saying. >> so, you think, well, you thought it was newt back at nancy reagan's funeral. >> i did. i do. >> what do you guys think? >> i don't. >> i think a lot of the people that are getting pulled out right now that you're seeing him stand side by side, i was trying

to show these people some love because they're not going to get it. i think he'll end up being a senator and might be bird, cotton, and might be jody earnest and totally took herself out of the running. i don't think that's the direction he wants to go and the direction he will go. >> maybe chief of staff. >> that's what he said. he listened very carefully and he'll be in the government in some form. >> secretary of defense. >> you think it will be newt gingrich secretary of defense? >> yep. >> mark, do you have any reporting on vp, what it is looking like? >> i'm fairly confident that he doesn't know who he is going to pick. >> okay. still ahead this morning -- >> still shopping. still ahead this morning, we'll speak exclusively with senator bob corker who took his own name off the table. plus jason ffetz.

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today hillary clinton is expected to announce a new proposal aimed at protecting small businesses. comes on the heels of her speech in front of the now shuttered trump plaza casino and hotel in atlantic city where she slammed her rival's business practices. she accused him of running up debt, defaulting and walking away with millions while hundreds of workers lost jobs

and contractors were. >> here's the important thing on how donald trump operates. he doesn't default and go bankrupt as a last resort. he does it over and over again on purpose. even though he knows he will leave others empty handed while he keeps the plane, the helicopt helicopter, the pent house. remember what he promised. i'm going to do for the country what i did for my business. >> well, we should believe him and make sure he never has the chance to bankrupt america the way he bankrupted his businesses. >> isn't it nice when you don't read from the speech. ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for being here. and hillary which with teleprompters every single time. whether you go north and south

or east and west, donald trump is a bad person. donald trump made a lot of money on atlantic city, but he hurt the little people. he hurt the little people. made a lot of money and government what they did. i tell you, did you see that sham i left seven years ago s. >> you were laughing. >> there is this capacity to be part of the audience, despite the fact he couldn't be more different from the audience. >> mark halperin, there is a connection. >> there is. the $64,000 question, is he connecting with people beyond the people who already supported him? i will go back to the comey thing and should they be talking about that. they see this playing out. the hearing today and hillary clinton eventually will have to do an interview and answer some

of the conflict between what she said and what comey said. >> can you give me some cover -- stop, what are you doing? >> that's terrible. >> show a picture of the map. >> 61% of americans are alarmed. just show anything so poor mark who got surprised by the question does not have to fight through it. >> to you guys not like mark halperin? what has he done to you? >> i will say, i will say on the business stuff, the problem for trump is that he's meeting today with the house and senate conferences. they're innenergized. the numbers are good and they're not inclined to defend him on his personal business stuff just like the judge and trump university.

he does need, i thing, a better answer. the democrats do plan to drive not just atlantic city. and i don't think the campaign fully has their arms around that, even as they get more surrogates up. i don't think they'll have anybody help them on defending his business record. he's got to do it. >> i a thought, herald, that was a good event for hillary clinton the day after the scathing report. >> that's the strength of the economic policy argument in the clinton camp right now, making the case the bankruptcies, the number of small businesses that have been stiffed along the way. the products that he manufacturers, how they're produced outside of the country. the litigiousness of mr. trump over the years which has been reported more than 3,500 cases. certainly mr. trump has every right to take advantage of every u.s. law to protect him and his business. >> he loves debt and he uses debt. >> you can't be a hypocrite if, indeed, the law allows you to do certain things. mr. comey says we're not going to pursue an indictment.

you can't be a hypocrite and say that should have happened on th en he was able, mr. trump, to take advantage of legal avenues himself to protect himself financially and protect himself as he manufactured goods around the world. i thought mrs. clinton, secretary clinton was very effective yesterday in that regard. coming up -- >> you can't talk about the law one day in the morning and then talk about the law differently in the afternoon. coming up, another deadly police shooting overnight. this time in minnesota. >> this is shocking. >> live on dramatic detail on facebook. we'll have that straight ahead.

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>> he's licensed to carry. he was trying to get out his i.d. and his wallet out his pocket and he let the officer know that he was, he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallt and the officer just shot him in his arm. we're waiting for a backup. that is remarkable. tragic that came in minneapolis. that came the day after what just was shocking out of baton rouge. it was just and streaming this last night. >> no, it's very early, obviously, in baton rouge. no other information has come out. based on the video that was

shown. it's hard to imagine what kind of justification there could have been for shooting the young man on the ground even if he was perceived to be the worst criminal, someone who had escaped from prison. now, again, i don't know all the facts, but the video alone was enough to convict those officers. unless there's a lot more. >> the facebook live stream certainly tells us a lot of different stories but this woman who was able to keep her cool. >> the minnesota story with a child in the car who was ultimately, she was pulled out of the car and the child was left alone. >> she may have been doing that to protect herself and protect her child. we'll we right back with reverend al sharpton. which control this joystick. no, i'm actually over at the ge booth. we're creating the operating system for industry. it's called predix. it's gonna change the way the world works. ok, i'm telling my brain to tell the drone to get you a copy of my resume. umm, maybe keep your hands on the controller.

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an employee of the st. paul school district. a child and the man's girlfriend were in the car at the time. the aftermath of the shooting was apparently captured in graphic detail as his girlfriend live streamed on facebook from inside the car. we have blurred parts of the video, but, of course, consider it all to be graphic. what you're about to see now. >> he's licensed. he's licensed to carry. he was trying to get out his i.d. and his wallet out of his pocket and he let the officer know that he was, he had a firearm and reaching for his wallet and the officer just shot him in his arm. we're waiting for -- >> i will, sir, no worries. he just shot his arm off. we got pulled over. you told him to get his i.d. and

his driver's license. please don't tell me he's dead. please don't tell me my officer just went like that. please, officer, please tell me that you didn't just do this into him. he was just getting his license and registration, sir. >> wow, it's stunning. >> we don't know exactly what happened before that video was taken, but afterwards it appears the woman was ordered out of the car and told to walk backwards towards police with and at one point the child is heard screaming in the background and then the mother is handcuffed and put in the back of the police car with her daughter with a live stream still going. around 9:10 local time a woman driving home to her apartment captured video that shows police performing cpr trying to salvage his life. the man was taken to the

hospital, but did not survive. >> police say a handgun was recovered from the scene. the officer has been placed on administrative leave while the state investigates. meantime, protests already begun. this video came and overnight, overnight and protesters were outside the government connection in st. paul chanting no justice and no sleep. the host of "politics nation" and president of national action network. reverend al sharpton. i'll be dammed. two days in a row. what happened in baton rouge was shocking. yes, we have to say it, again, we don't know what happened before. we don't know what happened leading up to both of these incidents but as herald said. you look at the baton rouge video. first of all, where you've been asked to go down. >> i am on my way. >> you're on your way down there. the video looks like, well, you know, the daily news has it it

right here. his hands were empty. >> right. >> shot four times in the chest at close range. what do you know about this? what have you heard? >> the fact is that you're dealing in a state where you have carry laws. so, just the fact that he had a gun in his pocket in and of itself in louisiana not an issue where police would come with deadly force. >> of course. you asaid tsaid nra, that's a g thing. >> exactly right. i think when i, in fact, i had just come from new orleans keynoting the essence festival when it happened. when i received the call from reverend dixon asking me and some of the communities to come back in, the irony of this, joe and mika, is that next week is the second anniversary of eric gardner, which was exactly like this videotape man selling something in front of a school.

he was choked to death. and now you see this. we have a problem of how we deal with policing in the country from training to the culture to how they're fog to be held accountable. >> we're showing baton rouge. they have the man down on the ground. >> on the ground. >> two officers. >> two officers. >> and clearly, clearly there is many things you can do other than to take out a gun and shoot him. and i think that we've got to address this rather than going from incident to incident. there is a problem. and those of us that have been condemned for raising this question of how we deal with policing. doesn't make all police bad and not condemning police department, but how many incidents do we have to see before we stop? and this is what i think the last two days brings back home to us. >> what lies at the root of the problem. you have been. by the way, you are exactly right. police officer. you've worked with the police. i remember in new york you

saying good things about the nypd and working with them. what lies at the root of beyond racial -- >> i think you've got to deal with the racial aspect and i think you also have to deal with the fact that the training, how to deal with de-escalating a situation and the penalties. i've got in a lot of controversy, but i would not back off and still don't. when i said until police know they're going to pay. until they see some of them prosecuted, they will not feel that whatever they do is going to be in any way held vulnerable. they have to see that they're going to pay a price and i think that clearly, as we're back here, again, people have got to understand until people understand there is a penalty for taking lives if you go over the law of the line of the law. and it happens to be the only way i think you're going to turn this around. >> you listen to those police

officers, it's obvious. they're frantic. >> michael said it best. >> no, that's what i focused on in both of these instances and i asked people to listen to the tape very carefully. pull out the voice and the sounds from the police officers. in each instance after they commit the act, you can hear what they're considering. what have i done? the focus has to be on how they're trained to go into those situations. why is the gun coming out the first result. two officers of a man down on the ground. one with the knee in his chest, where is he going to go? why do you need a gun there. pull out the taser. find other means to do that. why is that the first resort to pull out the gun. when these officers do that, you can hear in their own voices, particularly in the more recent one where he was like, i told him to do -- >> still the case in minnesota. no, officer, you told him to take out his licence and registration. >> the woman inside the car

whose boyfriend has just been shot. >> she has a child, too. >> with a child. >> there was actually -- actually the calmest person on the scene while the police are screaming at her. >> he's the law enforcement but she's the one calm. something you deal with every day is where is the national political discussion. where are the presidential candidates on this? >> absolutely. we ought to -- president obama convene right after this whole trayvon martin and in the white house and then the white house commission on policing. where are the candidates' position on how we ought to be dealing with policing? we learned political laryngitis from these candidates while this whole country is watching videotapes. >> we see this all the time, reverend. where there will be a mass shooting in orlando and we will rightfully stop as a nation and mourn. there will be a mass shooting

somewhere else and we will rightfully stop as the nation and mourn it. but chicago, every weekend. >> inner cities. >> nothing. >> these police shootings, we've heard nothing. they're all out there speaking and i'm saying this is why people call people like this because who are they going to call like those who are running for national office will not say anything. >> with regard to the training, you know, it's interesting. when police frs os and law enforcement are called in to deal with a hostage situation. they're hostage negotiators that make the call inside if something can be done. you would think that kind of training could be applied or some of those attributes could be transferred. this is how you approve a situation that is not lethal and you don't have a person's life in danger. if you can talk to someone holding hostages inside some place, you ought to be able to talk to moms and dads and children. the most alarming thing to me is to see an officer, the kid was on the other side and a gun

pointing at them. i don't know if it was a little boy or a little girl. something is wrong. something's fatally wrong and the fact that the candidates and even the white house now, there has to be a focus on how do you handle these situations? it seems it really only happens or we only hear about it when there are young men -- >> no doubt about it. >> just one point, reverend. i agree with you about the presidential candidates. as a former state official, this is something closer to the ground. this is where the nation's governors need to come together. our state legislatures have to come together because they have the greatest hands on with the local police. >> and you're right. and i give credit, i give credit to governor cuomo in new york did appoint a special prosecutor after his executive order. but the tone can be set by presidential candidates as president obama set the tone

when he convened everybody and had the commission. who wants to come and succeed obama should at least be addressing this and challenging the government. but you have not even heard the tone. they're running around talking about tweeting while we have kids siltitting in the car afte killing their father. >> tell us what you're going to be doing down in baton rouge? >> i'll meet with the clerky and officials and activists on the ground. i think the ministers that invited me in, we are going to do what we have done in other parts of the country, but we are going to say this is not a baton rouge problem or a staten island problem. it's a national problem. and here we are, again. we've got to see legislation to deal with this. >> who is the minister that invited you down there? >> the reverend dixon who passed. as well as i had yesterday on my radio show the family attorney, attorney jordan who meet with reverend. >> well, if we can have you and reverend dixon on tomorrow or whoever else from baton rouge,

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hillary, how are you doing? >> i don't get it. >> you don't like mosquitos either. >> i'm fine with mosquitos. nobody likes it, but you don't go on. but you go like this. >> oh. >> and talk. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it's thursday, july 7th. with us we have former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt and the host of "the last word" lawrence o'donnell. on capitol hill, managing editor of bloomberg politics, the mosquito slapping mark halperin. >> you were there last night. the media's take on that speech all day will be when he circled back to the star. you were there -- >> star! >> give us the -- your take on the full speech. >> i have the mosquito bites to prove it. look, on the down side, the

press will continue to hammer him as long as he gets diverted. there was a disaagreement between his son-in-law and posting the star and taking the star was a mistake. on the upside for trump, the haters won't like it. he has his mind around now, i believe, the task at hand including the way he needs to frame hillary clinton to have a chance to win the race. he has, as mika said at the top of the show, energized in a way we haven't seen him in a long time. >> the crowds. we have seen some crowds a couple weeks back where he was not filling places out. you said the crowds last night, it felt more like the last fall. >> it was a big crowd. it was an intense crowd and i didn't have as much time to talk to voters as i would have liked. but the few i did talk to, some people who had been with trump from the beginning. also a lot of republican there's. one thing that trump did that didn't get more attention. the senator up for re-election who had been weary of trump. and that's the kind of thing that is going to be a big deal for trump going forward.

he does need still on his checklist unite republicans and urging people to vote. it's a small thing, but for him it's a big deal. >> we have lawrence o'donnell here. we'll talk in a minute about the e-mail investigation and your fascinating insights into it. first, let's just talk about this race generally. is it a race to the bottom? i mean, hillary's approval ratings were in the low 30s and probably be in the 20s. donald trump was in the 20s. what happened here? >> that's where the race is. the race is off of the negatives. each campaign should be and playing to the negatives of the other campaign. hillary clinton goes to atlantic city, very smart move. no better place for her to be giving a speech. donald trump, on the other hand, last night, was given this gift by the fbi. in our history, there's exactly one presidential candidate who the director of the fbi has criticized publicly during the campai campaign. donald trump had all that in writing.

they gave him the piece of paper. you saw at the beginning of the speech he had a piece of paper. oh, this is special. he doesn't usually have it. anyone else would have 30 pieces of paper with the speech written on it. this is the stuff the fbi director said about hillary clinton. he starts reading that and he spent three, four minutes on that maybe. and in a one-hour speech. spends way more time on chuck todd. way more time on chuck todd. i think he talked about don king almost as much as he talked about the fbi director. donald trump's ability to execute his side of that deal isn't so good. but, luckily for him, the republicans control congress. so, he's got a hearing coming up this morning to back him up. >> what does it mean, though? because you and i have grown up thinking, if you're a republican, okay, like nixon would say you would right to the right in the primary and in the middle in the general and i keep saying he has to go to the middle and he has to stop

defending and stop defending and then a poll would come out saying he is tied in ohio. how will you grappling through this? what do you see? >> i would see the trump standing in the polls at this point is an indicator of the underperformance of hillary clinton. why doesn't she have a lead? given everything that he's done. >> why doesn't she? >> well, that bad day with the fbi has a lot to do with it. when you look at her 64% saying they don't find her honest and trustworthy and then you have the fbi coming up and saying in effect, all the things she said publicly at first about this e-mail, they're not true. i wanted to use one device. comey just says she used several devices, which is going to be a real question today in the hearing. exactly how many devices did she use? they may quote what hillary clinton said when she was not under oath when she was just talking to the media. quote those lines to comey and

say, did she say that to you? >> one after another after another. wow. >> congress is scheduled to hear from the fbi director this morning after the justice department offered not to bring any charges against hillary clinton. james comey will testify about his recommendation not to prosecute for mishandling classified information with hillary clinton's private e-mail system. the house oversight and government reform committee will hear from the inspector's general of the state department and intelligence committee whose referral kicked off the investigation last summer. attorney general loretta lynch is also expected to answer questions from the house judiciary committee next week. yesterday lynch said that she met with comey and members of the investigative team who were unanimous in recommending that the clinton case be closed. but house speaker paul ryan is demanding swift action for the director of national intelligence james clapper to

bar clinton from the intelligence briefings party nominees are used to getting. >> look, i was on the ticket in 2012. after the convention, you get the full deep classified information as part of transition. as part of being a nominee. i think the dni, clapper, should deny hillary clinton access to classified information during this campaign given how she so recklessly handled classified information. with no indictment occurring but a discussion or a call for administrative action, i think it's the least we can do given how she was so reckless in handling classified material and sending classified information on unsecured servers. look, i think that's something the administration should do on its own, but we'll look into seeing if that's something we can do, as well. >> mark halperin we talked about it last hour if hillary clinton should be barred from any classified briefings. that's not going to happen, is

it? >> it's not going to happen. a lot hanging in the balance. the comey statement was so sweeping that some people think that is the last word. his testimony today is going to be a huge deal. lynch is going to go up next week and testify, or at least that's scheduled and, as i said before, hillary clinton is going to have to at some point talk to somebody in the media about what happened. more investigative reporting on why prosecutors, not just comey, but the prosecutors on the case reached the same conclusion. i think there is more to come on this. the clinton operation is in full battle war room mode to try to neutralize today's hearing to say this is an old story now, let's move on. i suspect more and ryan has shown as he did yesterday, that he's not going to let this drop either. >> lawrence, you had a fascinating theory about why comey ruled the way he did without precedent. >> all about precedent. everything he said in that statement is about precedent. he got to say this very important sentence which is, we

couldn't find a single case like this that supported criminal charges. not a single case. and i wondered, well, what if they could have found one? what if there was one. what if he could say, well, there was this one other one. that would be the case of john deutch. cia director under bill clinton. john deutch actually reached a plea deal on the misdemeanor of simply mishandling of classified information. mishandling is you're supposed to keep it here. >> john deutch was an innocent act in the way that the reason we discovered it is when he was leaving the cia directorship he said i have these government computers at home and i'd like to keep them because they have some of my personal, financial stuff on them. he, in effect, said to them.

i mixed stuff up and if i could keep these it could be helpful. that was not even the trigger to the cia. the cia sent inspecters to look at his computers at home and that's when they found, look, all this classified stuff. there wasn't a lot. a certain amount of classified stuff in the computer. it took a couple years and he agrees to a plea deal on friday. late in the day so that it's too late to file the guilty plea on a misdemeanor. the next day is inauguration day. that saturday morning in the white house bill clinton issued 140 pardons. some involve people represented by hillary clinton's brother. so, this was the scandal that followed the clintons out the door. but one of those pardons was john deutch. john deutch was pardoned saturday morning so that monday morning there was no plea agreement to file.

therefore, on that thin read, you were allowed to say the sentence that no one has ever faced criminal charges in a case like this. >> unfortunately, for james comey, though, he knew. >> what he said is correct. >> i know it was correct but he knew that deutch had agreed to a plea deal. >> i wouldn't be surprised if that gets explored at the hearing. >> how could james comey. unless james comey wanted an excuse to let her off. how could he -- >> what he said was true. >> i understand that. >> it was a carefully phrased statement. >> at the same time he could say john deutch did have to plea to this. he was pardoned before the plea deal went in. comey knows that. >> it's the kind of thing, it's one of the reasons we don't take questions in that particular and it's one of those things that is kind of forgotten. one of the forgotten stories. i didn't hear anybody say about john deutch. what about john deutch. >> this is why people don't

trust the decision and they see, you know, rightly or wrongly there is something underneath this. there is a case. and if you look at, you know, you have the application -- you have the application of intent when the statute doesn't necessarily require that application. you have the fbi director using the term extreme carelessness when the standard is gross negligence. and, so, in one sense, you know, sort of creating the result that you want, but then laying down in very plain language an indictment at the same time. >> and saying you have no precedent. >> i give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm prepared to learn something about the difference between the deutch case and the clinton case in his testimony today. >> let's hope we hear it. meanwhile, hillary clinton spent yesterday in atlantic city to try to his record in business. kasie, you were there, tell us

how it went. >> so, it's the one thing that most americans know about donald trump. right? his business record. but like his personality, his business record has been really volatile. in the 1980s and '90s he bet big on these casinos in atlantic city, but over the years others have sometimes paid the price. >> donald trump today opened the doors to his billion dollar gamble. >> it was once the crown jewel of his casino empire. >> opening day and what donald trump in typical understatement is calling the eighth wonder of the world. the trump taj mahal. >> reporter: in april of 19190 atlantic city was booming and trump was on top. >> the gamblers here were surrounded by opulence. $14 million worth of austrian crystal chandeliers. $4 million in uniforms and costumes for entertainers in the lobby. >> but trump took out millions in high-interest loans to build

the taj. just months later -- >> his empire could be at risk of collapse if the new jersey casino commission decides not to approve trump's bailout plan. >> it foreshadowed the trouble ahead. today not even 30 years later, the check-in line stands empty and instead of wearing costumes, the employees are in union t-shirts. and on strike. >> little by little, they just let this place go. >> reporter: trump doesn't own the place any more. in fact, he once sued to have his name taken off the building. but that didn't stop hillary clinton from bringing her campaign here to spotlight the downfall. >> just down the boardwalk is the trump taj mahal. donald once called it the eighth wonder of the world. it filed for bankruptcy in 2009. >> reporter: joining the picket line. and provoking this response from trump. >> as far as atlantic city for years and years had success and

i created thousands and thousands of jobs. i left atlantic city seven years ago and i haven't been back for years. >> the story of trump's taj and atlantic city itself are symbols more than just his business in record. >> we all came back with our families. give new homes and give it a chance and it was fine. >> reporter: checking into the taj the fight before clinton's speech, a once great hotel was clearly crumbling. its best rooms now overlooking two empty casinos with plenty of blame to go around. >> everybody understands we're not here to help her, but the thing is you put your name on everything and now things are going bad. be careful what you put your name on because when she's here tomorrow. it's everywhere. it's everywhere. >> reporter: so those workers that you saw there are actually on strike from the taj and i think it's important to underscore the fact that they don't actually blame donald

trump for the condition of this hotel which, of course, he doesn't own any more. the place is a mess. trip adviser one star. i do not recommend staying there. but, look, i think hillary clinton has a point here. if you want to get a sense of what is donald trump like as a person, how does he run things? you can look at atlantic city as a good example and cautionary tales. but i do think the flip side, it is a stretch to say that atlantic city is in trouble because of donald trump. the reality is what has gone on in atlantic city is a perfect example of why so many americans are looking for someone like donald trump. >> you look, though, at donald trump's business history and the guy says, i like death. d you ha and you have the history of donald trump going into debt and not paying back 100% and, you know, a lot of people in new

york say they don't do business with him because he won't pay bills and he'll sue them. et cetera, et cetera. this is the clinton camp's attempt to do to trump what romney had done to him by the obama team, which was really, really effective. >> the great thing about the taj story, when you listen to donald trump at the opening making his statements, he sounds exactly like candidate trump. we're going to make this the greatest casino in the whole world. i love you. all this stuff. it's word for word trump the candidate. you know, he says, now he says today, oh, i was successful in atlantic city for years and years. you know how long it took him to bankrupt the taj after saying it is going to be the greatest in the world. it took him a year to bankrupt the taj. >> he had to get a state bailout. >> i don't remember the background on it. what happened in a year's time? did people just not come to atlantic city? what happened?

>> no, he borrowed millions. he went to the state of new jersey and said i want to buy a third one and give me approval to do it. turned out he had trouble financing it. the loans he took out were hugely high interest loans. now paying major loan interest payments on all these casinos and they did well, but not well enough to cover the debt. almost immediately he couldn't make loan payments and then there were some back and forth. his father at one point according to reporting in "the washington post" took cash. millions and bought chips at the trump plaza casino, which was then put on the books as a gain on, you know, gambling. right. the commission later said that was an improper loan because fred c. trump infused all this money into the casino systems to help donald trump turn around and pay the loan. it was all very tricky. that, ultimately is what led to his downfall. >> all the casinos were succeeding at the same time that

donald trump was going bankrupt in atlantic city. >> here's the question, lawrence, will voters care? there have been so many things that he's done in his life on the campaign trail. will voters in the end, will they care? >> i think even more correct is no. i think a lot of -- >> why do you say that? dwl >> i think a lot of that is in the narrative of donald trump. coming to this politically fresh is new. >> he's a businessman. >> but i'm saying he's been out there for over 30 years and people have read the stories whether it's about trump university here in new york or taj mahal in atlantic city. people know that and a lot of that is baked into his narrative in a way that they have discounted it and now looking to see if there is something else. >> at least 45% of voters care. when we say voters care, we're talking almost 3% that is going to decide this thing. >> so, the clinton campaign is

counting on being able to convince voters of something past what they were in mitt romney's case, for example. so, romney was a business guy and people got hurt in the process. the clinton campaign is going to try to argue that this is one step past that. that donald trump did well in business at the express extent for all the people that contracted with him and he hurt the little guy over and over. i'm not convinced that they can do it, but that is the goal. >> trump's answer to all of this last night, hillary spend the day in atlantic city. donald trump gets up to do his hour of performance. 20 minutes of that is about atlantic city. right? 17 second on atlantic city and not one diagrammable sentence in the 17 seconds. >> there you go. >> donald trump will be meeting with some republican lawmakers on the hill today. let's bring in nbc news correspondent hallie jackson live on capitol hill. what do we expect to see this morning? >> mika, big day here.

donald trump showing up and coming back to washington here for the first time in weeks. he is going to be meeting with number of senators and 14 senators nbc news has confirmed will be attending that session with trump. three will not. the names probably won't surprise you. we're talking about senator lindsey grah lindsey graham who has been very, very outspoken in his issues with trump. we also have senator mark kirk who has unendorsed trump and kelly. as usual when it comes to d.c., probably a circus. last time he came here was quite the spectacle as he headed from the senate side to the hill side. that's not the only sort of big name coming into capitol hill today. fbi director james comey that will be here for the house oversight committee. we're learning this morning that house speaker paul ryan, in addition to this hearing, is now formally requesting that hillary clinton be denied those

classified briefings that presidential nominees receive. this is republicans sensing a political opportunity and pouncing here. concerned, at least according to paul ryan, that because clinton, he says, was unable to handle other classified materials should not receive sensitive information. all of this really becoming a political issue for republicans even though ethe department of justice has formally ended their investigation into clinton's e-mails. mika, joe? >> thank you very much. lawrence o'donnell, thank you. >> the first word. >> the first word. >> i like it. >> fascinating. and i hope somebody is going to ask. the deutch question. lawyers are always good at finding the difference between this case and that case. so, let's figure it out. >> kasie, stay with us if you can. new reports that the delegate map is not terribly locked up for donald trump. are hundreds still in play? bill kristol will have his take on that. he looks to make a little trouble. >> he wants to make trouble.

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>> shredded the claims that secretary clinton made throughout the year with respect to this issue. he laid out a case how the things she had been saying she had or had not done were false. so, we have seen nothing but stonewalling and dishonesty from secretary clinton on this issue and that means a lot more questions that need to be answered. we are joined now by the man leading today's questioning of the fbi director james comey. chairman of the house committee on oversight and government reform. republican congressman jason chaffetz of utah. very good to have you onboard. congressman, what do you plan to try and find out from the fbi director today. >> thanks for having me on. i worry there are two standards.

if your name is clinton or you're part of the rich and powerful, you live under a different set of rules than everybody else. it does appear based on the fact pattern laid out you'd probably be in handcuffs and going to jail and probably should based on the statute. so, we want to ask him about that and now that the department of justice said they're not going to prosecute, no reason they can't provide us all the information. >> are there precedents you'll be pointing to? >> i do think there are precedents. we talked about director deutch. i heard you out of the tease going to the last commercial break. that is a precedent. former cia director who plugged his laptop essentially into the internet was going to be prosecuted and then president clinton pardoned him. but the department of justice was pursuing this. there are other cases, as well. >> they pursued it and he actually agreed to a plea agreement on a misdemeanor. they were going to charge him on

it. >> look, we're talking about classified information. and it wasn't one innocent mistake. this was something that went on for years. it put people's lives in jeopardy. we don't know definitivety whether it was hacked. the fbi director is getting as close to that line. she put people's lives at risk, unnecessarily. i went overseas and state department pled with me. yet, the secretary goes and uses her own personal e-mail. how does that happen? >> everything from the server to these e-mails and do you all see what he didn't, which was a willfulness is that a good way of putting it? >> look, you look at the fact pattern laid out by the fbi director and then you geet the point where he comes to a conclusion, there's no consequence. they're not going to present that to the actual prosecutors. that's a disconnect. it just doesn't make sense. that seems to be the double

standard because if you were just the average american, the person who's going back and forth working for the government, would you be held accountable in some way, shape or form? >> let me add to that, mr. chairman, yes, you would. he said there could be. like herald said, not his place. >> good morning. most people know that chaffi et was the kicker at byu. what precedent do you think you're setting if the attorney general is called before congress because he does not reach conclusion that perhaps many think he should have reached. is this a good precedent, a bad precedent going forward for congress to ask, but the fbi director to come in and explain why he did not recommend an indictment? >> well, i think clearly this case, we have people who have classified information. the precedent that is really being set is by the fbi

director. see, the fbi director said there is no precedent to prosecute. the precedent that the fbi director is saying that if you mishandle classified information, there is no consequence. i do think it is appropriate now that the case is closed to have the fbi director come and explain and show us what he saw. because is something wrong with this statute or is there simply a double standard? you can't, what are you telling the rest of the people who have classified clearance? you are telling them, it really doesn't matter. do with it what you want. >> congressman, michael steele here. good morning. just to piggy back on how it's questionable from the political side and give on the politics everything related to the clintons. how do you conduct this so it doesn't come off as just a witch-hunt, if you will. or trying to make political hay and embarrass hillary clinton.

substantively what is the argument you're going to be making to the american people when this is all said and done? >> we're just trying to stick to the facts. i think director comey was right in saying that we have to look at this and look at the fact pattern. that's what we want him to be able to lay out. we're doing this less than 48 hours after he made his announcement. i think that's the responsible thing to do. certainly, there will be other things we need to look at down the line. but, the balance. democrats get the same amount of time as republicans. but this is how we do things. in america, we are self-critical. it is how we improve and that's how we fix our selves and how we make sure we're a better country. >> congressman, it's kasie hunt, nice to see you. my question for you, director comey said in that press statement that this investigation was not political. was not partisan. do you have any reason to question director comey's integrity in this regard? >> no, he's a man of great integrity. that's why it's mystifying.

so a person like myself when he laid out the case and all the times that hillary clinton lied and all the times mrs. clinton provided false information not only in public, but also under oath, how is it that you go through that whole thing? i retweeted what msnbc put together and what you put together on this show showing the contrast between what he said and what she said. how do you come to the conclusion that, no, there's no consequence. it makes no sense to me. >> we'll see what happens today. representative jason chaffetz, thank you so much. much more "morning joe" still ahead. before we go to break the second installment of nbc digital feature the united states of trump is launching today. it includes some 30 years of archival video all exclusive to nbc. one of the big takes aways donald trump has been flirting with the white house for decades

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>> you know who i just spoke to. big don king. just spoke to him ten minutes ago. don, i'd love you to speak at the convention because, you know what, you beat the system. and he's a friend of mine. big don. greatest boxing promoter of all time. in fact, somebody said and mike tyson endorsed me, as you know. >> the republican national convention starts in just 11 days and "wall street journal" reports on delegates efforts to thwart donald trump's nomination. >> was he accused of murder? >> no, you don't know. you asked this off the air. why don't you google it it. >> no! >> i'm on television. >> there was an incident. >> don king. >> i'm going to continue to read.

>> let's just say -- >> i think don king and donnell trump got to know each other in the big fight days. >> i know i found pictures of the two of them together when i was digging around in the atlantic city archives. >> i met the guy. nothing against him. >> you're having a hard time finding it. >> possible connections. i won't say. okay. we'll investigate. >> they found anti-trump delegates about eight votes short in the rules committee to begin the process and nominate an alternative candidate. rules committee member randy evans of georgia tells the paper, there are just about 890 delegates personally loyal to trump while 680 oppose them leaving 900 delegates in play. anti-trump delegates need to sway -- >> okay. alex, so what have you got on don king? come on, what have you got on

don king? listen, i met him y like him. very interesting person to call out. >> the report said he was convicted of second degree murder in 1966. the judge reduced the sentence to, reduced it to nonnegligent manslaughter and served four years in prison. >> i think what trump is talking about is his beating the system as a self-made man. >> i don't know what he's talking about. i want him to speak at my convention. >> yesterday, in a tweet yesterday trump slid back the release of convention speaker scheduled, "let today be devoted to crooked hillary and the rigged system under which we live." this as representativess of ted cruz denied and after he'd be saying he would be honored to speak at the convention, marco rubio said he'll be a no-show.

he has to focus on his re-election instead. does he want to be in the senate? >> no, he hates the senate. he says the senate is absolutely miserable. he hates the senate, right? >> what is he getting rid of? >> he says he hates the senate, right? >> he has. >> well, yeah, he has always expressed frustration. i'm not running for re-election. over and over again. you have to run for president. get out of the senate. it's clear that it should be fine with voters that my frustration with the senate is so great because it's not functioning and it's not working. >> i guess absence makes the heart grow fonder. >> to cruz and rubio, we have kind of forgotten him. particularly ted cruz. rubio is going to run, again. we don't talk about cruz any more. first time i heard his name. he doesn't want to do so. >> but wisconsin governor scott walker will be there. only he might have to say trump's name. which he seemingly is reluctant to do.

in this tweet posted yesterday. last august i said i'd support the gop nominee. it's unclear who the dnc delegates will vote to nominate and he is better than she is. >> pronouns are good. so, could we see a convention in cleveland? we'll talk to the ring leader of the republican vote. >> is this the story, really? who are we going to ask. former chairman of the party. when we come back. >> i'm skeptical. one of millions of orders on this company's servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise, mary's data could be under attack. with the help of at&t, and security that senses and mitigates cyber threats, their critical data is safer than ever. giving them the agility to be open & secure. because no one knows & like at&t.

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>> never trump. never trump. oh, never trump. these are people. here's a guy, you talk about a great conservative, but he gets it. some of these people don't get it. never trump. by the way, never trump is disappearing rapidly. >> are they? joining us now, editor of.

>> donald trump says i'm disappearing. i should disappear. front page in "wall street journal "that will be a real fight to reaffirm the fact that delegates get the vote at the convention. >> what does that look like? >> first rules committee and then on the floor and the chairman of the convention speaker of the house will have to decide, will he simply let the chairman of the delegation record a vote or let the delegates have a role call and say, wait a second. >> if you have real call and every delegate has to vote? >> the chairman, arizona casts 72 votes for trump and five for cruz or something like that. someone says, wait a second. that is not an accurate count of the delegates. then the chair has to decide do you have a role call of the delegates and the delegates feel, they should feel historically it's been the case that they have the right to vote. there are delegates at the

convention and rubber stamp. >> the rule that you're citing is, you're right. the problem is there has been a lot of interpretation of whether or not the delegates actually have the right to have their individual vote count as opposed to the role call of the state so they're laying out a blanket number based on the election night results. there has been a growing movement over the last two cycles on what bill is talking about. having those delegates in that moment individually expressed. you literally, each state would say this number of votes not based on election night results but based on the delegate count at that moment. that is going to be the early battle, i think. i don't think they'll win that battle. i think the pressure that is brought by the rnc and the trump campaign, which controls the majority of delegates on the rules committee are going to make sure that will not happen. which is why bill is referring

to it as being an uphill climb because it really will be. >> do you agree with that, bill? >> that is david against gul goliath. this is people like the idea of grassroots, democracy in america. this is a genuine grassroots thing. they studied the rules and history and affirmatively active to buying the delegates. that suggested if you don't affirmatively act behind the delegates, they are free. that's why there is a convention. that is why there is multiple balance. >> writes in "wall street journal" about trump proletariat. we are ten days away from party conventions and me, trump sits uneasily as always close to the polling margin of error against.

and faces a determined billion dollar democratic party machine. once a month, he slanders reality with backhanded admiration for mass murderers such as saddam hussein and kim jong un and yet he stands. this election must be about something else. a this isn't about republicans versus democrats. it's the gunfight at the o karx corral. a street fight of what have become irreconcilable views of america. >> i think that's deep thinking and i'm a big fan -- >> big fan of deep thinking. >> no, i'm not a big fan of deep thinking. this is overthinking in this case. i'm not one of those in the never trump camp. i am really struck, joe, you were right on this. if you look at the polls now, the hillary clinton campaign, i would be worried.

she's up five points against a guy who makes mistake after mistake. there is probably a hidden trump vote. the problem, the reason, one reason is not that trump is a sure loser. trump could win because hillary clinton is so weak. that's the most amazing fact about this campaign. if you look at the economist 35% of the public wants to vote for hillary clinton and 25% for donald trump and then 40% evenly divided say their main impulse tavote is to vote against clinton and for trump. >> you said it's still david versus goliath at the convention. you still have no david. >> that's interesting. i think that's better. what you want at the convention a general referendum at the first ballot. he is the frontrunner and the presumptive nominee. if they don't nominate trump, then you go to a bunch of ballots in which candidates emerge or are recruited.

that would be very interesting and exciting. i think it would be great for the republican party. it would be chaotic and everyone would say, no obvious nominee. it will be the most exciting thing that will happen politically in our lifetime. someone will end up with 237 votes. i don't know. the governor or the senator. it would be pretty amazing. some people are saying you can't be somebody with nobody. but i think in this case, actually, you're better off just having a referendum on trump. >> remember the two hillries on "saturday night live" just celebrating getting trump. i don't think they are now. if you just take five minutes and look at last night's speech. there is something there that you can't explain that we can't understand. secondly, she's planning, i think they get it on campaigning during the republican convention, which is usually when candidates take a break. a much-needed break and kind of stay out of the way. it's going to be -- >> bill, i saw you last night after the trump speech.

i was the same way. okay, i'm not sure what i just saw, but he's really connecting with the audience. you said it was amazing in its own sort of way. it's something that we can't -- >> everybody in the room was with him. he made them feel so included in his success. he has a way of doing that that is unlike anybody we've ever seen before in politics. >> it's appalling. but it's amazing and he shouldn't be underestimated. he shouldn't be president of the united states. but don't underestimate it. >> no way. >> all right, bill kristol, thank you so much. a big day on capitol hill. the director of the fbi set to testify on the clinton e-mail case and maybe he can explain exactly why he did what he did. i can't wait to hear that. plus, donald trump meets with republican house and senate leaders. nbc luke russert and mike allen from politico will be here. >> oh, good.

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okay. i sent joe off into the corner. clear up the don king thing. >> don king served five years of a 1 to 25 years for a manslaughter conviction released in 1972 and pardoned in '83. >> thank you.

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that's the most persistent fly i have ever seen. >> nice. >> where is he? there it is. >> the democrats. oh there was a mosquito. i don't want mosquitos around me. i don't like mosquitos. i don't like those mosquitos. i never did. okay. speaking of mosquitos, hello, hillary, how are you doing? >> i think vintage trump is back. >> he's got his groove back. >> he's got his groove back. good morning everyone.

welcome to "morning joe." with us onset political analyst and foreman chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. former democratic congressman herald ford. such an elite title. jim vandehime and mark halprin. >> and you wouldn't answer the call. it's like watch trump on tv. >> turn it on. >> i got to say, even bil bill kristol was saying that was something. that was amazing. he said i'm not sure what i saw but that was amazing.

>> i'll tell you what you saw. you saw him connecting with a crowd in the way no other politician ever could. you can't imagine a republican candidate going up there and getting killed. remember all of the things from mitt romney. they actually feel they could own a golf course in turnbury. >> i think the question still begs. you have theese golden nuggets being handed to you. >> yes. >> riff on that. >> todd had to come around a little bit on the show but he nailed hillary clinton to the wall during the speech.

>> and there's a tale of two speeches. it's the speeches that the audience sees. yesterday we were very critical. he was not focusing enough on hillary then we ran the part of how long can you really talk about grandchildren? >> he is fantastic. >> and how long can you talk about golf? that's your two and a half minutes. what else did they talk about for 25, 26, 27, 28 minutes? everyone else is saying he is supporting donald trump. they hate jews. they hate hispanics. no. we are talking about what we saw on television. we talked about mark halprin that looks reenergized. the audience was eating it up. this is a tale of two campaigns. hillary, who is sort of sludging through a hard time right now and donald trump who seems to be

having the time of his life. there is the speech if audience sees and you love and then there's the speech where we pick out something he said last night. in this case it was the defending of that star repeatedly. that's the narrative. while i think a lot of us miss what the audience and what voters saw last night. >> this was an event that was, as you said, energized. this is a very spartan convention center north of downtown cincinnati. it felt like a trump event from last fall or winter when he is connecting with the audience in the room. there is certainly justification and say he is off message. he is not disciplined. he is also delivering sound bites and he understands the outrage about what happened with

comey and hillary clinton. he understands it and he is dlifrg it in a way he will drive all the way to the fall. he is focused on the v.p. pick, focused on the debate. he is there mentally. >> just so people watching this show, certain people don't turn summer salts and say i thought he was defended, explain what was different. there appears to be a new energy there and like you said, an energy from last fall. >> he will have to make it not a referendum on trump. he has a sense of what the country doesn't like about it.

the digressions i don't think are part. you're making trouble for yourself because it will get some coverage. the last two nights shows a guy that wlo is engaged in this race and who is conveying that he has a sense of what it is going to take to win even though he is still a flawed can ki dadidatca. >> and there seemed to be a flaw. she is trying to come close to the sanders supporters which you think she could use. also, congress has scheduled to hear from the fbi director this morning this is after the justice department decided not to bring charges against clinton. comey will testify about his decision not to prosecute her. the house oversite will also

hear from the inspector general of the state department and intelligence community. yesterday lynch said that she met with comey and members of the investigative team who were unanimous in recommending the clinton case be closed. paul ryan is suggesting to bar clinton from the intelligence briefings the party is use to getting. >> listen. i was on the ticket in 2012. after the convention you get the full deep classified information as part of transition, as part of being a nominee. i think the dni clapper should deany hillary clinton access to classified information given how

she so recklessly handled information. with no indictment but a call for administrative action i think it is the least we can do in sending classified information on unsecured servers. we'll look into seeing that's something we can do. >> that seems rational, to bar her from having access to any classified information. >> she is the nominee of the democratic party. >> they say she was reckless. you or i would not be given access to it. >> i understand the politics of it. >> no. no. no. i'm just talking the facts of it. >> there are politics that go along with the facts. he made very clear, comey whose is unimpeachable, he

recommended -- he made very clear many of her deputies were carele careless but he didn't -- >> he said there would be administrative actions. >> he said it was not his place. >> yeah. it could be an minute straiting action. >> if she is the nominee and she selects a person to run with, how do you deny the nominee of the party? perhaps you can put other safeguards around him. she didn't share any of this information. i'm not defending what she did at all. we do have to look at the facts and look at carefully what she did and how she was careless in transmitting and transferring this information. >> i understand your point and i

think you made it well on this show yesterday. congress can't prevent the briefings. he said we would like to look at it. >> no. the intell community -- >> we are talking about setting precedence. it isn't something you haven't been through before. i'm sure you have been through it before. you go through a lot to get classified information. >> but ultimately it's a white house call and white house will decide whether it will happen. i would take a contrary view. the facts are powerful against hillary clinton and not articulating that and defending the star, to me it's politically asinine. why would you do that when you have something that is perfect to go after the flaw in hillary clinton in that no body trusts

her. >> that's the stronger point i think. that's what i was thinking about. you're right. i mean at the end of the day the white house is not going to shut hillary clinton off. >> anybody else would be shut off. >> they would. >> and the clintons live by different standards. >> yeah. we know that. >> so what, the rules that apply to the rest of the world do not apply -- >> really? >> i'm just saying they are not going to. >> you all have been hostages -- >> i don't think you are -- >> i agree. >> what would you recommend they do? >> i'm not recommending anything. i recommend this is a human being and not someone who for years and years and years and years we have just decided is in a different category of humanity. >> let's face it, james comey

treated her different than he would have treated anybody else. there is a higher standard that comey and fbi decided to place on clinton than they would have placed on anybody else. >> that's what's reporting. it's disgusting. >> talk to people in the fbi. she was hillary clinton and she was the presumptive nominee. i don't think there should be a higher standard for her. when they decide whether she ever gets access -- or sheryl mill should never get within a thousand miles of classified information ever again. >> that's much -- >> it's disgusting an attorney would be that -- neither hillary clinton or people around her should be within a thousand

miles of classified information. if you don't believe me talk to anybody in the intel community. >> they are not going to cut her off -- >> of course not. of course not. >> none of us at this table would have the benefit of going on having a meeting with the fbi on a holiday weekend. >> how about meeting the attorney general on a plane. >> after the clintons tell her and through the new york times that they are considering keeping her on. >> oh, my gosh. >> oh, my goodness. >> i thought president clinton was out of line. i thought you were talking about harold. >> i think joe and michael may be right. perhaps they should be and we'll learn more. i agree with you on that and the

president clinton issue. i don't i gree with whether she should be cut off -- >> she is not going to be. she is not going to be. so so i want to talk more about this trump thing and sort of play it out. >> we'll show a little more. >> show a little more. i understand that what you're saying. i don't think donald trump, i don't think it was a mistake that they played it on all of the networks and last night he was on for how long? an hour or so? i think he is doing it on purpose. i think it is working. i have been harshly critical. i think he will lose the general election. >> there's a joy back. >> i have seen it and i have said this is the thing that we don't get in new york and

washington but he is speaking again to all of those people he was speaking to six months ago. >> is he speaking to new people? >> i think so. >> i think -- >> take a look. >> he is running -- >> step outside of your washington world. >> he is running against a woman wloz approval rating is in the low 30s and now probably in the mid-20s. >> like lying, everyone at this table, did clinton lie? even harold. >> and harold ford understands donald trump's appeal. >> he also understands reality. >> i would agree with you. >> you want to get in my way?

you want to talk about this? >> shehere is don naulald trump. >> hillary clinton said there was flog more classified on my e-mails either sent or received right? she said that. we all heard it. the lawyers doing the sorting in 2014 did not individually read the content of all of her e-mails before destroying them. what's going on, folks? what's going on? i mean it's very sad. you know, it's very sad. saddam hussein is a bad guy. i said again, saddam hussein is a bad guy. he did one thing well, he killed

terrorists, right? that's okay. just a quick segment. i wake up and i turn on the television, donald trump loves say come wddam hussein. i don't love say come saddam who sa sa sadd saddam w-- i said this is a ver fine person, dan scavino. on the tweet was a star. it's a star, like a star. i said oh. when i looked at it i didn't think anything. all of a sudden it turned out to be in the minds of the press

only -- because it could have been a sheriffs star, a regular star. they said there is money behind it. they are racially profiling not us. why are they bringing this up? i have a son-in-law who is jewish. my daughter is jewish. i have grandchildren that are jewish. i love them. i love them. so the star, which is a star, not the star of david. when they told me star of david. i said you have to be kidding. how sick are they? they said they took the star down. too bad. just leave it up and say no, that's not the star of david. it's also about corrupt hill rhode island she sent it out. she is the one that started the dialogue. you know why? because she wanted to get off the fbi. >> mark, you were there and he brought up the disney sticker

book that had the same star on it. there is the disney sticker book that had the same star on there. so tell us exactly what we saw last night. >> i mean, look, there is no political convention who would have approved that speech and those digressions but if trump -- look, if trump has a chance to win -- and the only reason we are talking about this, if he is going to win it will be with that. it will be vintage trump where he is not just energized but confident and entertaining and the ability to convey to people that he is different. he will not be politically correct or business as usual. he will lash out at hillary clinton. i have no idea how voters in cincinnati accept hillary.

i think he has to do the fundamentals and pick a good running mate which he is focused on, win the first debate. if he does those things i think he will go ahead in the polls and performances like that. that's how he has to perform. that is better for him than the way he was a couple of weeks ago. still ahead, donald trump set to meet with republican lawmakers as he tries to pull together the splintered party. we will join you with reporting from capitol hill. band bob corker bows out of consideration to be trump's running mate. but first -- it is no secret atlantic city has gone through tough times. if your governor would start doing his job instead of

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practices. she accused him of walking awhat with millions while hundreds lost jobs and contractors were stiffed. >> he doesn't default and go bankrupt as a last resort. he does it over and over again on purpose even though he knows he will leave others empty handed while he keeps the plane, the helicopter, the penthouse. remember what he promised. i'm going to do for the country what i did for my business. well, we should believe him and make sure he never has the chance to bankrupt america the way he bankrupted his businesses. >> isn't it nice when you don't read from a speech? or hillary with th

the teleprompters. >> and whether you go north and south, east and west, donald trump is a bad person. donald trump made a lot of money in atlantic city but he hurt the little people. i'll tell you. did you see that sham? i left seven years ago. >> i love where -- >> they are totally -- >> he couldn't be more different. >> and yet there is a connection. >> there is. it's a $64,000 question. is he connecting with people beyond the people who already supported him? >> coming up on "morning joe." >> everybody else talked about how to change washington a little bit. this guy is going to kick over the table. >> donald trump's potential

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welcome back to "morning joe." senator corker, we'll be asking you ant trump in one second if it were his desire. first i want to ask you about some policy you had pushed the president to tell america and the world how many troops he would keep in afghanistan. >> yeah. >> are you pleased with his response? >> i am. i would liked to have kept the number where it was. yes, to send the signal now to our nato allies, a good move. i'm glad they made it and sent out a notice of that regard yesterday. >> why was that so important? was it for the generals or for our allies?

>> for our allies. i have just been in afghanistan not long ago. i don't think people understand the lodgist kal issues. we have issues that need to be demobilized if we were going to keep the troop level where we were. it sends a strong signal to the government and to the taliban that is trying to undermind us. it gives them time to make sure they have the appropriate personnel there. an important decision and i'm glad it was made. >> is it the belief ton hill for the most part on your committee that we made a mistake getting out so quickly that maybe the president learned from that mistake? you decided not to leave a void in afghanistan? >> i can't imagine anybody debating that, you know, leaving afghanistan -- i mean i rack and

checking the box and saying it was a good decision. it was a disasterous decision and i think people understand that. >> you would not have your name to be trump's vice president. explain that. >> i think all of us understand what we are best at doing. i think that's a job others may be better suited doing. i think there are other things i am best suited doing. i cannot tell you how much i enjoyed the day. you know, very early on i shared that with donald trump. i was with him for like eight hours. in the early morning of the meeting enables you to talk more fully and candidly about where they are going and what they are doing. i tell you, americans would be shocked at how much they are doing with so little. i say that complimentary.

look, i think it's his race to lose. i really do. i saw mark. i know he was on your program earlier today in raleigh. the reaction of people to him is something that needs to be -- people need to behold. >> and you looked surprised yourself when you got out there to say a few words. you were surprised by the turnout. >> i said look, guys. i already shared with you, this is not something i think i should do. i don't want to look like i'm a digtsing for a job. so yes, i said, you know, donald trump being donald trump calls me out. but i was glad to be there and see the energy. i was glad to be on the plane so long and see how they operate.

it is amazing they have done with so little. their organization is so tight. you know trump's wealth. he is not like people think that he is. he is one of the most courteous, kind, respectful -- you can see it throughout the trump organization. i mean they are most impressive people. >> it's one of the great ironies. some say donald trump is not in front of the camera like he is behind the camera. he is extraordinarily courteous bethiend camera at least in the ten years we have known him. we have not seen what he does

after the documentary. >> people watched it and they say where was that during the campaign. you know, i think that again, there has got to be a way to humanize it. again, i really think it is in a way that no candidate in moderate times has tapped. >> senator corker, what you were just talking about, the moment m momentum, do your colleagues in the senate get that? what is your message when you're sitting around with senator mcconnel and others? >> we have not talked about it much. today we will at 10:30.

i think it can be a kis connect. i think watching this campaign will be quite indirestructivins. what i hope that donald trump will be able to do is to also build it sb a hopeful message overtime. his policy positions are much more knew answered. some times, you know, if they can continue to focus on a more hopeful message people understanding how he is. he has the me moan tum and the

only person that really tapped into the energy. >> and given that same energy, what is your take on the trump movement trying to blow up the convention to get delegates to break away from trump and basically cause chaos without their own offering of a candidate to replace him? >> i don't know much about it. it is not something i have any knowledge about. i read it is still underway. since i'm not involved in that i was actually surprised that it looks like it reared back up a little bit. i have no knowledge of it and haven't had any experience with it. >> all right. senator bob corker. thanks for being wus. we appreciate it.

>> thank you, sir. mayor implications from clinton's e-mail troubles to trump's devied in the republican party. sanders gets pbooed. we'll have more coming up ahead on "morning joe."

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the fbi director said there is no precedent to prosecute. the precedent that the fbi director is saying is if you mishandle classified information there is no consequence. i do think it is appropriate now that the case is closed, come and show us what he saw because is something wrong with the statute or is there simply a double standard? >> are you confident the -- >> there are a lotover question that is have been to be answered.

we'll be asking those questions. trump will be meeting with republican lawmakers and congress hearing from the fbi director following his reck men da recommendations. let's bring in luke russert. luke, talk about the trump meeting. what are we expecting to hear out of that? >> reporter: well, that's lot of things going on here on capitol hill. forgive me, speaking over these protesters. republicans feel there is blood in the water on hillary clinton, obviously. yesterday i would venture to say that was at least the first day that during the morning and yesterday afternoon leadership were on the same page regarding

messaging. clinton got prech ren shl treatment within a rigged system. they want to know how could comey characterize her behavior as careless and reckless and not feel that she is able to be prosecuted when people who have done muchle less have also gott hit. he goes off about the star of david controversy regarding his twitter. a lot of republicans i spoke to were livid because they were of the mind set, look, for once we were both attacking hillary clinton. we were going after her. it is siding in our favor believing she got preferential treatment. you go off on this tangent about chuck todd and lord knows what. so expect this meeting behind me

when trump goes to meet with the house gop some of them will say thank you for raising the 50 million. we won't get blown out here but you have got to say some what in the fairway because it is an opportunity for us to knock it out of the park. we are taking care of comey. you have to do something for us. i'll be interesting to see what the read out is from this meeting because folks were livid he went so far off the railed last night. >> all right. luke, thank you for your incite. that is fascinating. let's bring in mike allen. the republicans are saying what a lot of people around this table have been saying the last couple of days, why didn't you stay on message? how do you win if you can't stay on message? >> it is so important. he will get a very very favorable reception in that room because they are dying to make

it work. you know how much the people in that room -- >> right because if trump sinks everybody goes with him. you can't have somebody lose him and not take the senate and the house with him. >> every time somebody talks about giving money to republicans, no. people think you have to save the senate and keep the house in bounds. i think everybody agrees the house can't go until 2022 but losses could make it much more likely. >> yes. i agree with that assessment. how are you gauging beyond the obvious? how are they looking at this? you just touched on some of the dollars coming in. are they beginning to say we went give to trump but we'll give to candidates or to the parties or we are all in this together?

>> we have seeing some of that. i can tell you among the money people yesterday, the buzz trump was getting yesterday from the respectable to good even undpptundpp unexpected number is a huge help to him. he has a lot lined up here but he has to once again not blow it. >> and he is raising a lot of money online. >> yeah. you are getting those -- >> and it's actually working. bernie sanders is still running for president. senator sanders may be getting behind hillary clinton. democrats campaign to discussing a potential endorsement in new hampshire where sanders won a massive victory. tell us about this. >> right. so leader pelosi says it was booing but not widespread booing. we saw him say to chris hays

they are having talks about the endorsement and clinton talking today a about leg affordability. he's a way for thoim say -- them to say we did that. >> her e is bernie sanders. >> i think most were sympatheticic. i will continue to fight to make sure that we transform this country. that's what our campaign was about. we are now working with the clinton campaign. we came together on higher education. let me congratulate her. i think it is a powerful proposal that will mean so much

to muches and millions of young people. >> and clinton attempts an idea in tuition plans. you know, sanders says policy matters to him. that said, i think democrats are at the point where they are pretty over it. >> yeah. >> they want the endorsement. this is one of those ideas hillary may be going to sanders. many wonder why college tuition is so outrageous. >> you could go to some of the best schools in california for free. >> i have a bunch of nephews looking for colleges. not a lot of them will vote for trump but bernie father or mother ks could stay home for

sure. this is something she is talking if about a policy. it is a dramatic contrast with trump. >> there was a story that said the country created 11.9 jobs. some million went to people who had at least some college. to so people who only have a high school diploma, that's why we have trump and sanders. people are really struggling. >> and then you look at people who do have a college degree. they are defaulting on their college loans. it is disgraceful how up it has gone up twins since.

this is a way for clinton to do that. >> remember the first thing, state budget is cut and funding of the education particularly higher. it will be a very interesting dance for clinton going into the fall with a lot of governors facing daunting questions about state budgets. as much as we talk about it at the federal level it is often made at the state level. >> and you saw -- i think on sunday we'll see what's happening because of funding cuts. we'll be back in just a moment with more "morning joe."

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thnchts this is pictures of donald trump coming in of his family. they are headed in to have meetings on capitol hill. and jimmy carter and his wife celebrate their 70th anniversary today. >> slow clap on that. unbelievable. >> yes. >> this is exactly one year ago. let's talk about your remarkable wife and what she has meant to

you from the years. >> when she was born i was three years old. my mother was a registered nurse who took care of her mother. my mother told me the first day rosen was alive i went next door to look at the newborn baby on the street. i have known her since the first day she was born. >> so remarkable. >> isn't that so nice? >> unbelievable. >> they are an amazing couple. great memories. i will always be so grateful to know them. >> a man who has always had dignity and honor and a great example. >> humility. >> he really is. time to talk about what we learned today. you want to add anything michael?

>> as well celebrate that marriage we need to look at how we are losing lives in the community particularly with young black men and young black men coming up on the short end of the stick. it is readty for a different conversation. deal me in on this one. >> i learned that donald trump has her coming with him. it will be interesting so see what kind of impression she makes. >> and republicans uneasy about the fact that donald trump had comey's blisters statements and decided to go off on a tangent last night talking about stars and disney coloring blacks.

>> do do you have his place again? vintage trump is coming back. that does it for us. stephanie picks up the coverage right now. >> good morning. breaking news overknignight. another police shooting. >> you shot bullets into him, sir. he was just getting his license and registration, sir. >> the dramatic moments as his girlfriend pleads with police officers. and protests erupting overnight. the sterling shooting in louisiana. we talked live to the witness who filmed it. and paul ryan officially asks for clinton to be denied security clearance. this as