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victims in new york city are black. the police have to be present in the black community. not necessarily because they want to be not because you'd like to have them there, but because that's where the murders are taking place. from the time i became mayor and the time i left, murder wept down from 1900 to 500. then mayor bloomberg brought it down to 300. it's now going up again. in that period of time, we saved thousands and thousands of mostly black lives. by putting white police officers in areas where they were at risk. now the new york city police department is a non-majority white police department. that's by design. we accomplished making it a multi-racial, multi-ethnic
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police department. at the same token, not every police officer is a perfect person. some are evil and bad. most are good. and the vast majority are good. we have to be honest with each other. when you talk about black lives matter, the black young boy who was killed by another black young boy is just as dead as the black young boy killed by the police officer except what i just mentioned happens 50 times more than the other. and i think there's a target on police officer's backs because of groups like black lives matter that make it seem like all police are against blacks. they are not. they are the ones saving black lives. black lives matter. it's not saving any black lives. it's the police officers that are doing it. >> the way the governor of minnesota yesterday seemed to be saying black lives matter in his own way was something he said that a lot of people -- struck a
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lot of people as honest. i don't think had this motorist been white we'd be talking about this. you have an assassinated driver of a car pulled over for a tail light in the state of minnesota. the woman recording it for facebook live in the front seat handcuffed despite four rounds in the chest. no first aid squad. >> that's a heck of an assumption though and not appropriate by the governor. how does the governor know what the motivation is of those police officers? white people get killed by police officers also in the united states. we have white organized crime. we have russian organized crime. we have hispanic organized crime groups. they get shot by the police. i prosecuted as many cases involving white people, the mafia. how does the governor know that?
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confrontation with police is an inherently dangerous situation. whether you're white or black. if you resist a police officer, it's immediately going to become concern for his own life. and the reality is that doesn't matter if you're white or black. if police officer says to me, put your hands up and i try to run away, i try to lung at them, i try to grab him, i don't care if white or black that gun is going to come out. we have to teach young people that. my father taught me that. doesn't matter if you're white or black. do what a police officer says. i do not believe our police are racist. i do believe they are put in contact with the black community particularly in urban america, not in the rest of america, much
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more often than the white community. they haven't chosen that. 7 out of 10over the people murdered in new york city last year were black. 75% of the murders were convicted are black. so when the police get calls, where do they get calls to 7 out of 10 times? the black community. they are in contact with that community more. it happens more often. one of the ways to deal with this is as a whole, let's teach our police if there's any remaining racism, let's get rid of it. let's prosecute the bad ones that are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. let's teach everyone including the children of the black community that most of those police officers are the reason you're alive. because the real danger to you is that black kid who is going to shoot you on the street because that happens many, many more times than police officers. let's talk about it honestly.
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let's also realize, yes, black lives matter, but so do blue lives and asian lives and hispanic lives and so do all human beings lives. that just divides us. when you start that, you're dividing us. we have had from on top a lot of divisiveness and anti-police rhetoric. i know police officers, as you know, really well. i have some who work for me in my security company. they believe there's a target on their back and they have been telling me that for a year and a half. >> we have a huge problem in this country. i heard a former assistant fbi director say yesterday we got a problem with police training. yes, obviously. a problem with double standards, making traffic stops. but also a problem with hiring. he theorized not everybody should be a police officer who wants to be a police officer and maybe we should look a new at the people we accept into these
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jobs. >> i can only speak for the new york city police department. the hiring process is rigorous. the police department is a nonmf majority white police department. they are trained in courtesy, professionalism and respect. did we occasionally have a police officer who acted improperly, yes. did we occasionally have police officers falsely accused, yes. four police officers, all whom were acquitted by a jury including four americans on a jury. there were four months of demonstrations. i never allowed riots. four months of demonstrations to have those police officers convicted. they were tried by a jury with four blacks on the jury. they were found not guilty. it goes all different ways. the best thing for a governor to say, the best thing for a mayor to say is i don't know the facts. let's use our criminal justice
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system to develop the facts. not to pronounce that it was a racial killing. that isn't for him to decide. he can't look in that police officer's mind and know if it's a racial killing. we had a terrible incident in this city in which a police officer plunged the backside. that police officer's girlfriend was african-american. it wasn't racial. you know what it was? he was a sick man and you're right, we never should have hired him. i will tell you just to get myself off the hook. he was hired before i was mayor. but what did we do? my police commissioner worked with loretta lynch. that police officer is now in jail for 25 years. if it's up to me, he'd be in jail for life because he committed a crime. then i had other police officers falsely accused. my standard always was calm down, no demonstrations, no get
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out of control, let's let the criminal justice system sort this out. the one case police officers went to jail. in the other case they were correctly acquitted. in both cases, the racial agitators tried to create horrible problems as to both with no distinction between the one who was guilty and the one who was innocent. >> from the president to governors to mayors to in this case a former two-term mayor of the city of new york, remove rudolph giuliani, we have twin tragedies. not mutually exclusive. tied together by their senselessness. mr. mayor, thank you for coming in. >> god bless all the families involved in this. none of them deserve this. on all situations. >> that's for sure. >> they are the ones ultimately who suffer.
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let's go back to craig melvin in dallas. craig, i don't know if you were able to hear our interview with rudolph giuliani using and he's entitled to his opinion as all are people using precisely the language the black lives matter campaign has objected to so forcefully. think about this violent week in american history. these two killings, police-involved killings, that some yesterday were labeling twin assassinations. fast forward to last night in dallas. the assassination of five police
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officers and this is where we stand on a friday afternoon. >> i caught the last part of the conversation with the mayor there. and i would caution, i guess, against this idea this was a protest that was organized by just the black lives matter movement. as we have heard from folks who were there on the ground last night who were part of the march that was in protest in response to what happened earlier this week in louisiana and what happened earlier this week in minnesota as well. it was a protest in response to that. however, it sounds as if based on those who were there and based on those accounts that you had white people, black people, young and old and this was very much a group of folks from dallas from all walks of life. i know we have heard from a number of the leaders of the so-called leaders of the black lives matter movement.
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i say so-called because they pride themselves on being very much a flat organizational, not an organization with the hierarchy of sorts. they have condemned this, condemned what happened here in dallas. they have condemned it. we'll leave it at that. let me step out of the way. i want to show you what's still an active crime scene. i think we can show there was just before we came on 10 to 12 officers that assembled behind that white van that you see there. we're told that the same number of blocks is shut off right now that were shut off two hours ago, roughly 20 square blocks here in downtown dallas. traffic still not being allowed to pass through. folks not being allowed to get their cars either because, again, this is in addition to being an active crime scene you have a number of investigators, we were told, walking around and actually looking for more shell
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casings as well. let's update you on the condition of some of the victims here. we know that the 40-year-old dallas police officer is the second officer to be named. he was a part of the dallas police department. but before that, he was working in wayne county, michigan. we know that brent thompson, who was with the dallas area re regional transit system here, he died last night. he had just gotten married two years ago. the president of d.a.r.t. told me earlier today that he died courageously. three of the other d.a.r.t. officers, we are told their injuries are not life
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threatening. misty mcbride will be released tomorrow. and omar cannon, officer cannon is said to be in the worst shape of the officers. he is expected to have surgery later today, perhaps tomorrow. but again, all of these officers are expected to be okay. we have not heard about the condition of some of the other officers just yet. we can also tell you a little more about the 25-year-old who was killed in the parking garage behind me. he was a private first class when he left the army. that was in april of 2015. he spent some time deployed to afghanistan. the first picture we showed you there was his basic training picture. that second one you just saw
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there with his fist in the air was from his facebook page. again, 25-year-old micah xavier johnson. officials do believe that he acted alone. kellen nixon was one of the folks that ran for cover last night. were you here during the protest? >> i was here during the rally as well as the march and protest. >> and what happened? >> well, everything was pretty peaceful from the start. there were a few exemptions. a couple guys that yelled out some profanities, but when we transitioned from the rally into the march, the cries for peace, the cries for justice, don't shoot, my hands are up. we marched peacefully. there was really no problems. the police and the people were unified. when we made it to the ending point at the courthouse, a few
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guys spoke. there were some cheers and claps, but there were also some guys near to the speakers and to the organizers that were yelling profanities at the police. i decided from that point it was time for myself and my son to leave. >> you want to make sure i get this straight. the march itself was peaceful. when the speaking started, there seemed to be some tension between some of the folks who were standing there and some of the speakers? >> let me be cloear. when the speaking started, there was no problem. when we got close to the end, some guys that weren't with the speakers made their way to the front and they were saying some things. there was still no tension between the police. >> things like? >> f the police. >> did the police respond at all? >> no, there was no response from the police. when i heard those things, it's in the best interest of myself and my son to leave just in case. as we got to jackson and
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commerce, about right here across the street there, the shots began. we ran across the street and they were firing shots. you probably can't see it, we hid behind the sign for a couple seconds. as the shots stopped for a little bit, i counted and didn't hear shots so myself and my son we started running towards the parking garage. the officer next to us ran toward the shots. after that, we got to the next stoplight right there and there were some people that were terrified. actually hyperventilating and crying. i had to stop and say, you better run. they are actually shooting. she came to and started to run as well. but all in all, i hate that this is what actually will be remembered. this is what the people will remember. that the worst of people will
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give us a perception of our people. it's just horrible we have so many stereotypes. i stereotype police. police stereotype me. that's where all the hatred comes from. but in all honesty, if we can get past our stereotypes, we would be a lot better. >> amen to that. how are you today? >> today, i think i'm recovering spiritually today. >> what do you mean by that? >> last night when you start to see the shooting and hear the shooting and you have your son there and your main concern is i better get this home boy to my mother or she's going to kill me. you start to think it's me against the world. and with that type of mentality, we'll implode as a people. we'll implode not as ethnicity, but we're all one race. me against the world mentality,
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i was thinking maybe it's not black lives matter or all lives matter. maybe it's just my family's life matters. i had to recover from that. i had to be reminded that love conquers all. if i let that mentality overwhelm me, who can i help? >> what did you -- how old is he? >> he's 5. >> what did you tell him this morning about what happened last night? >> we actually talked about it last night. i explained to him we wanted to be a part of something. we wanted to have our voices to support mr. castillo and alton sterling. but when we begin to speak about it, i wanted to let him know you can't be afraid of police officer s. . you can't hate police officers.
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you can't judge the same way you wouldn't want aen in judging you because of the color of your skin. i have been in a position where at a point in my life i sold drugs. the honest truth is that the mercy extended to me wasn't by other drug dealers or african-american men. it was by two officers that found me with drugs and they extended me mercy. from there i was able to be a husband. i was able to be a father. i'm a pastor and a preacher now. at the same time, when i'm in a three-piece suit from the police i'm treated worse than when i was a thug. so it proves to me that everybody is not bad. everybody wearing a badge is not bad. every african-american is not bad. we have to change our concepts. we have to change our ideology in this country. we're so segregated in our schools and our religion and churches. it destroys us. >> how would you characterize
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the relationship between here in dallas between the police and the police. police and the people. >> i wouldn't say it's a love relationship, but i will be completeliest. i don't think we have a problem with police brutality in dallas until now. i'm not afraid, but i'm reluctant -- i'm more reluctant when i deal with an officer now. i blame the accused. i blame the killer. i would approach me the same way after what happened last night. but i don't think we have had a bad relationship with officers. there's bad seeds. >> as you were running last night and ducking for cover, trying to get your boy home to his mom. what's going through your mind? >> why, what is this going to prove. really what went through my mind is we just set ourselves back 50
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years. any amount of progress we may have made from marching. >> we being black people. >> not even just black people. we being humans. we just set ourselves back. because now the racism increases. now the hatred increases. now there's a sense of proof that this group is this and this group is that. there's an evidence and reason for the way that i feel, for the way that i think. >> how do we get past it? how do we go from it? after the vigils, after the marches, what do we do? >> i mean, that's tough. my first answer and my heart's answer is we have to be a christian nation. we have to be governed by higher authority. we can see what us governs ourselves has proved. that would take for america to
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admit that she's a hypocrite. that would take for america to really do some soul searching and say we weren't a christian nation. we have never been a christian nation. it's hypocritical. how can these individuals call themselves christians. so it's very difficult. but i think that the best thing we can do is to value lives over the economy. i think that's one of our biggest problems in america. the economy is stronger than our moral fiber. our desire for prosperity. it's so much greater than our desire to be moral, to be humane, to love, to care. we'll risk our children. we'll risk the sankty of marriage or anything just for money. just to stay on top as a nation. what we don't understand, i think, is that when we lose our
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heart, when we lose our souls, we're really the worst of people no matter how materially rich we are. >> kellon nixon, we needed this. he has lost interest in our conversation so i'll let you get him out of here. thank you again. thank you. it has been difficult yet heartening to talk to some of the folks who are so very lucky to get away last night. >> i have to thank you for these conversations. i don't know why it is the people of dallas suddenly seem wiser than the rest of us. what do you think? >> amen to that. i do think that as a gentleman told me earlier off camera, he said when you see death up close it changes you. i think you have a few hundred people last night in downtown dallas who saw death up close. >> absolutely.
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every time i hear them say they are embarrassed for their city or anything like that, you feel like correcting them and saying don't feel that way. >> no, because this is a city that is going to bounce back. it's a shame that they join what's become a long list of other cities in this country that become for perhaps a short period of time synonymous with great national tragedy whether it's orlando or charleston or we could go on and on and on. we see in the days and weeks after tragedies, we already saw a powerful vigil here that just wrapped up. you see communities use events like this as bridges instead of wedges. using events like this to start conversations in their city. no reason to believe that's not going to be the case here in dallas, texas, as well. a city that has dealt with great
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national tragedies time and time again over the past 50 years. >> craig melvin, thank you for your continued work. joy reid is here with us in the studio e. she was listening to that last interview. as i keep saying, people are wise today. >> if you go back to the origins of why the group organized that march in the first place is that people feel a profound sense of passion and compassion for the families of the dead. whether those are people who are civilians killed in a routine traffic stop which is what spark ed these protests. somebody selling cds outside a store. or whether it's these police officers' families. we have to be able to get to a point in the country where we can keep in our minds the
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thoughts that we feel compassion for the dead who are civilians, who are the victims of police-involved shootings and feel compassion for the police that are dead. these two are both our fellow citizens and e we feel equal measures of compassion for both. and i think that the fact that we sort of begin to divide along the lines of which side you're capable of feeling compassion for is the problem. and i think what you're seeing in the people in dallas is they don't have that problem with the dichotomy. they actually understand that both fro found losses are felt by the children, the mothers, the friends of the dead. we have to feel that compassion for both. >> you can agree or not that what these seven deaths have in common is they were assassinations of a kind. that's one argument. what most people would have to agree on is that they are united by their senselessness. >> absolutely, exactly.
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the jarring, wrenching loss of the suddenness of it. in this case the calculation behind it. and the idea, i think we also have to remember too, when you have somebody that's that kind of a marksman with that kind of lethality to harm specific individuals and to do it that we also have to have a conversation about the larger context we have been having about things like gun control. what do we do about this kind of lethality of somebody trained to do this and then uses that training against officers of the law? this has so many layers of terror involved in it. i think we have to start to get our heads around all of those aspects. >> a couple point there is. first of all, it's not 1946 where we had a whole bunch of returning veterans in the united states. we've got so many more people
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who have cycled through incredible urban combat and our weapons trained. i'm looking for what declarations he does have. purple heart indicated he was wounded in combat. infantry badge there indicate he's in sustained combat for a long period of time. to the lethality question, he had a short time to plan this. it was just the short video we have seen is so cold-blooded. >> and the thing is that in the first term of the obama administration, there was an attempt by the administration to study the effects of people coming back from the war and whether there should be special attention paid. the vast majority are incredibly productive members of society and are working to better the
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country that they serve. that were not doing enough to look at the impact of death. of causing death and seeing death around them and being involved in war. we had an objection, a political objection to even studying that. we're not allowed to talk about it because it became politicized because it came from this president. we have to begin to study all of the aspects of gun violence that include paying special attention to our combat veterans and are they getting the psychological help they need. are they getting the assistance they need. it's all of those aspects we have to talk about. in the case of dallas, we need to talk about open carry. the threat that came to a perfectly innocent man who was splashed across the media as a potential suspect. who police had a right to be frightened seeing somebody who to them looked like they could be a threat.
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this is a state where that is allow ed. we have had this debate where we're not even allowed to study or talk about what would that mean if we're going to allow that kind of open carry nationwide. and i think we have to have the conversation that the people who march ed in dallas for the compassion for those civilians killed was in a 72-hour period. three pockets of profound and shocking death. they were there for the right reason. had the right to have the outpouring of compassion you saw among protesters. that was the right thing to do. the person who committed this atrocious act against police is the enemy of black lives matter, is the enemy of those who believe in justice and peace for the families killed by police. they are the enemy of black lives matter. they are causing more fear among
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police. they are causing more alarm among police. they are making the situation worse. let's not try to connect this kind of violence to that outpouring of compassion that you saw with the marchers. >> that 5-year-old boy we just saw should have been allowed to be at that rally without the threat of any violence. joy reid, thank you. to underscore the point, the citizens we have asked the most of since 9/11 have been our veterans. often when they come back, we do the least for them chr, which ie crime. another break if our coverage. more after this. ♪ take on the unexpected with a car that could stop for you. nissan safety shield technologies, available in the altima, sentra and maxima. now get 0% apr for up to 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash.
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week, americans across our country are feeling a sense of helplessness, uncertainty and of fear. these feelings are understandable and they are justified. but the answer must not be violence. the answer is never violence. >> attorney general loretta lynch at the justice department earlier today. so much of the administration traveling with the president for the nato summit. i was just handed at least the first draft of the military records of the suspect in question here. micah johnson. it appears he was attach ed to n engineer brigade. it appears he was given the specialty of carpentry and masonry. i am not seeing any combat awards or declarations. they are campaign medals for being a part of the afghanistan campaign, a nato defense medal and the like. but it appears to be an army
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engineer brigade that he was attached to in the army initially as a reservist private first class effective may 2010. we want to bring in our next guest to talk most ly about the tactics used to go after this suspect and how they got dallas under control last night. former dallas police officer, we should also mention 12 years an active marine. this is the first time -- in this case a clay mine was delivered by robot as an explosive to blow up a gunman. is that your understanding? >> yes, sir, that's my understa understanding. this is the first time that tactic has been used by law enforcement. >> what do you make of it?
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>> new and innovative. we have to adjust our tactics to the suspects and what they are doing to us. >> why do you think -- i guess there's still reason to believe he did not act alone. why do you think the chief thought we were in a situation where the vick items were being try anglated. where we had a kill zone among multiple gunmen. >> yes, sir, what you're describing is some type of linear ambush executed by sniper. it was well coordinated, sustained rates of fire, which would lead me to believe that it's a preplanned attack with entrance and e degrees routes mapped out. >> you think it's conceivable this was all carried out by a single guy with a long barrel rifle and a lot of rounds? >> sir, anything is possible at
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this rate. but just based on the number of officers wounded and killed, i find that difficult to believe. >> that it was a single gunman? >> that it was a single gunman, yes, sir. >> audio can do weird things, as you know better than most. the report of a rifle inside the kind of glass canyon of a downtown area like dallas we can't blame people for thinking even if it turns out to be false we had multiple sources of gunfire, correct? >> that is correct, sir. it did sound like multiple assailan assailants, but that could be explained by the echoing off the buildings. >> have you ever seen a situation where responding officers had so little time to get their situational awareness you could almost see in the early video these officers doing what they do, running toward the fire before being told or realizing they were the targets of the fire?
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>> i'm sorry, sir. you broke up a little bit. if i understood you correctly, first of all, we march to the sound of gunfire. it's what law enforcement does best. so what we're trained to do, with that said, the officers really did not know because of the echoing off the buildings exactly where the gunfire was coming from. >> yeah, the scary part was he used height to shoot down on these officers involve d. michael, a veteran of the s.w.a.t. team business who trains s.w.a.t. team members on rapid response, thank you for being with us from dallas. another break in it our coverage. we'll be back with more right after this. and played gigs from new york to miami. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior.
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hear her first real response to these tragedies, these terrible stories out of dallas, texas, that came out of the duel tragedies of those police-involved killings that were dominating the news yesterday. we want to go to baylor medical center to get an update on the victims that were taken there. tammie leidner is there for us. >> reporter: brian, this is the largest level one trauma center in the area. so most of the gunshot victims were brought here. there was a very moving scene. i believe we have video of that. the officers and the hospital staff lined up right outside the e.r. as the two slain officers were brought out. the police officers saluted him at the time. we now know who those officers are. there's actually three slain officers that have been identified. the first one is michael krol. he's a former sheriffs deputy with wayne county michigan.
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the second one is patrick zemirithy. and brent thompson was with d.a.r.t. he was married just two weeks ago and he's the first d.a.r.t. officer to be killed in the line of duty. there were three d.a.r.t. officers that were injured. we do know that one of those officers was release d and the other two are expected to recover. >> tammy, thank you for that status report. the continued sadness there in dallas, texas, among both these police agencies. dallas p.d. and area rapid transit. another break. we'll check in with craig melvin, right after this.
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special guest joining him. >> if there was an official pastor here in dallas it would be likely t.d. jakes in south dallas. maybe 20 minutes from where we stand. let's just start with how your city is doing spiritually. >> i think our city is recovering. i think it is traumatized. we're trying to attend to the families who are grieving right now. i think in our own way, all of the city is grieving. >> sunday morning at 9:00 a.m. when you're in the pulpit at the pot potter's house, how will you explain this to your congregation and explain how this country should behave moving forward? >> u don't think my parishioners are as shock ed by what happene
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in dallas today because this is a brewing that's been going on for a long time in cities across america. while mainstream america is shocked, we're not totally surprised that there's unrest and that young people often take matters into their own hands to their own detriment. we're trying to wrestle with solutions. we don't wrestle with understanding the problem. we wrestle with understanding the solutions. >> you say you don't think parishioners would be surprised. we have seen unrest in cities all over the country, but nothing like this. we have never seen 12 cops gunned down. >> not necessarily the details, but the fact that there's frustration is not shocking. how that frustration manifests itself, there are some people who go into inappropriate behavior due to their frustration and the fact they no longer believe those officials we have elected and put into place are really looking after them. that's unfortunate. we never justified that kind of erroneous behavior.
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i think it is a symptom of a far deeper problem in our country that has to be resolved. >> how do we solve the problem? >> i think if we don't confront some of the ills we agree on, if we don't deal with that in our country and if we're not prepared to grapple with proper education, we're going to continue to e see the uprise of these types of issues as we leave certain people in the quagmire of poverty and degradation with no way out. >> we don't know, at this point, we don't know a whole lot about his background. we don't know whether he grew up poor or went to a bad school. we don't know what led him precisely to do this other than what he told police, which was i hate white people. i want to shoot them dead. especially white cops. >> what we know is that this is a microcosm and reflection of what's going on in america.
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he was inspired by black lives matter. the it's difficult to be inspired by a cause you can't relate to. none of us are far from our relatives who are, including me. the frustration we cannot separate ourselves from the statistics whether we are educated or wealthy, because we have regulartives who have no voice. >> there have been a number of connections between the black lives matter movement and what this gentleman did last night. is that a fair connection? >> i think it's important you make a distinction. i don't want to speak on behalf of black lives matter. but in this particular instance, it was a peaceful demonstration. it had gone off flawlessly. i think the behavior of this one individual does not reflect or represent the cause of black lives matter.
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>> i appreciate your time. the ribbon that you're wearing is the first time i have seen it today. >> symbolic of being in solidarity of the tragedies and the tremendous loss that has occurred through our police officers. >> thank you for your time. i know you're very busy. brian? >> craig melvin, thank you. another break for us. we're back right avenue this. i work 'round the clock. i want my blood sugar to stay in control. so i asked about tresiba®. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® is a once-daily, long-acting insulin that lasts even longer than 24 hours.
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mesquite, texas. entered through army reserves. he was 25 years old. we just had medal of honor recipient and nbc news military analyst jack jacobs take a look at his basic one sheet army records. he confirms nothing extraordinary there. there does not seem to be evidence of combat service as much as it is campaign medals. he appeared to be attach ed to carpentry and masonry unit of an engineering brigade in the u.s. army. this was video of him just firing his weapon last night. sadly there's going to be all kinds of surveillance and other video before this investigation is over. we should say that because craig melvin has been able to so thoroughly cover this story by talking to the people of dallas, texas, craig is going to take
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over our coverage from his studio there in dallas. >> brian, thank you. good day to you. i am craig melvin here in dallas, texas, on a tragic afternoon in one of this country's largest cities. the deadliest day four law enforcement in america since 9/11. five police officers dead, seven more hurt in a late night ambush just a short distance from where i stand here. not al qaeda, not isis or any other terror organization. it was a single person, as far as we know, an american without affiliation wanting to kill white people, specifically white police officers. the shooter on your screen identified as 25-year-old micah xavier johnson. he is dead. police killed him after a two-hour standoff using a robot. we'll have plenty of time to lk