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mourns, president obama reminded people to keep this in mind during a speech at the nato summit today in warsaw, poland. the demented individual who carried out those attacks in dallas, he's no more representative of african-americans than the shooter in charleston was representative of white americans. or the shooter in orlando or san >> we're learning who the shooter was. 25-year-old micah johnson had a troubled pass. while in the military. memorials held today. on the hold the demonstrations have been peaceful in rochester, new york a protester last night continued into the morning and more than 70 people were arrested after throwing rocks at police. ahead this hour, we'll hear from
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witnesses who saw the tragedy unfold on the streets of dallas and we'll hear from local leaders as well as elected officials who are now tasked with helping this city and this country move forward. so let us begin this hour here in dallas with new details emerging about the shooter micah xavier johnson. including allegations of sexual harassment while he was in the military. i bring in nbc's joe fryer. this has been a very complicated story as it's been unraveling. let's go back to his time in the military in afghanistan. apparently a woman, a fellow soldier accused him of sexual harassment. what happened then? >> that's right. it was a couple of years ago. we've been speaking with a military lawyer who represented johnson during this time, and he says that a female officer accused adjujohnson of sexual harassment. johnson was never charged with a crime, but the accuser did seek
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a protective order against him despite that he was still given an honorable discharge. this new information we're learning about his history as the investigation continues here. this is a massive crime seen. even though the suspect has died, there's a lot of information to pore through. a lot of witnesses to talk with. this was a scene that proceed over many locations. that's why much of this is closed off. in front of the dallas police department, which is a few blocks from here the mayor visited today and joined me others who have been leaving flowers, sharing stories, and really grieving over the loss of all of these officers. and so the mourning continues. it's a saturday now. a lot of people no longer working. they're able to come out here and do what they can to grieve together. >> we've been seeing the outpouring of grief. it seems as though, i've seen it before when i've been to the scenes of mass shooting. first, there's the shock. then it begins to wear off. i saw so many people today in
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tears. >> yeah. and that's what happens, unfortunately, when we cover the stories time and time again. often on the first day it hasn't spunk in. en for us in the media. when it starts to sink in on days like today. they hear more of the stories about the victims. they see all the flowers and everything like that. that's when it starts to sink in and the emotions get heavy on a day like today. >> joe fryer, thank you so much. as the city begins to grapple with the actual details of this or risk sho horrific shooting there are stories of heroism from the victims coming to life. nbc's tammy lightener joins me from outside baylor university medical center. tammy, let's start with that. what do we know about the conditions of those injured here? >> chris, we know that one officer has been released and the others are still being treated. we had the opportunity to speak with one woman whose sister was
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shot. she's not a police officer. she was there at the protests. she wanted her sons to see what this was all about and when the gunfire went off, she took cover and just started protecting her sons. this is what theresa williams had to say. >> the second bullet she pushed him down on the ground in between two cars on the curb side, and by the third and fourth bullet when it started to become a lot of gunfire, she pushed him down and jumped on top of him because the bullets were going to fast and they were flying everywhere. so she couldn't keep up with the other three. she shielded him by jumping on top of him. somewhere the in midst she caught a bullet in the back of her leg. >> reporter: she was shot in the leg. she's still here at the hospital. doctors haven't told her when she's be released. other aurss that were shot, some of them until the back are still here. this will be a long road of recover for them. >> do we have any idea if any may be released any time soon?
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>> the hospital is not giving a lot of information on the conditions. we did just have the opportunity to talk to a police officer here with the dallas police department, and he told us that fellow officers even aren't being given a lot of information. they've been coming and going from the hospital. it's a fluid situation and some of the injuries are serious. >> tammy, thank you very much. for the third time this week, president obama today talked about violence. addressing what happened here as well as two police-involved shootings calling it a tough week for the country. joining me now is naacp president arthur flemming. we mentioned the president speaking three times again today just within the last hour. so at the nato conference. let me play a little bit of what he had to say. >> we've seen police continue to reach out to communities that they serve all across the
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country. and showing incredible professionalism as they're protecting protesters. we've seen activists and grassroots groups who have expressed concern about police shootings but are also adamant in their support of the dallas police department. which is particularly appropriate because the dallas police department is a great example of a department that is taking the issue of police shootings seriously. >> what we've heard over the last 48 hours from many of the people who are protesting is that they had really good things to say about their relationships with the dallas police. i wonder if you think that's the exception or the rule >>well, chief brown he did implement community policing about a year or so ago, and i
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think he's made some progress. i think that's you probably hear the response you're getting. >> tell us about that and how it worked and how you think it helped your community. there are clearly a lot of communities that are struggling. if you went to a protest and talked to people, they wouldn't have such nice things to say. >> you know traditionally we've had good protests here in dallas. this was one of the first protest where we've had issues. the protest was peaceful. chief brown and what he's doing, i think he's trying to do community policing, i think, is really needed. >> we saw protests around the country. 74 people were arrested in new york, they threw stones at police. pepper spray was used in arizona. for the most part, they were propeacefuls. all of the protests around the country have been largely
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peaceful. what do you see as the head of naacp and what do you think we need to know going forward? >> we're trying to address real issues that are in our communities as far as our relationship with police. basically it comes down to, you know, respect issue. i think if the police can come to see african-americans as americans. because as a veteran myself, you know -- to look at us as americans first and then proceed from there. i think when they pull us over compliance is not enough. they want us to submit. and i think it's the submit attitude that they bring when it comes to problem. >> how do you think that the black community here and from what you hear from your counter parts around the country is coping what we have seen over the last week or so here in the united states. >> i'm hoping that the take away is that, you know, we've had two
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young men die under suspicious conditions. we've had police killed for no reason. i'm hoping we'll say look let's look at the whole thing ho listically and see what we need to do. nobody is winning response i hope that i nation will say, okay, let's continue with the community policing. you know, i hope this doesn't change police' attitude about trying to work with protesters and the community. >> do you worry it will? >> not really. i think some people are probably hoping it will. i think police are too smart for that. i think american people are smarter than that. >> one of the things that president obama said today he's going to call his task force back. as you know, he put together the task force on 21st century policing. it includes community leaders, representatives of law enforcement, and the community. there are more who say more talk, talk, talk. and particularly people in the political spectrum who said we
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need better communication. we need to talk more. is the time for talk more than ever or is it over? >> i think we're talking ourselves in. we're in another movement period i think things can actually change. i think the conversation we need to have -- we're beginning to have it. we're not there yet. we need to have a reckonciliatin of media to what it is. remember the civil war never ended. black folks were not -- so, you know, this has been another phase of it. >> what happened over the last week? we said the president has spoken three times. there have been three incidents. the two killing of the black men and the horrible murder of police officers here. a year from now when you look back, what will have had to happen for you to be able to say
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what happened was terrible but something good came out of it. >> if i see the dallas police department continue to work with the community, to continue to try to give us confidence in what they're doing. if that's still going on, i think we would have taken a hit and succeeded. >> how are you doing? this is your city. >> it's my city and i've been telling people about how we don't -- you know, we didn't have the problems. but, you know, this is america. something can happen in one side of america and creates something on the other side. that's just part of it. it's just our turn, i guess. >> arthur flemming, naacp. thank you very much. >> thank you. and when our coverage from downtown dallas continues on this saturday, how we move forward. my conversation with texas attorney general ken paxton about this investigation and his message to fellow texans who are at a loss following the traj
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we're back live in dallas and just a short drive from where i'm sitting is the ever growing memorial has sprung up outside dallas headquarters. hundreds of people from ordinary citizens to veteran law enforcement officers have been coming out to pay their respects. it was there this morning i talked with texas attorney general ken pakistan txton abou investigation and what the country can learn from this week's tragedies. >> reporter: obviously the
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shooter is dead, but where else do you see the investigation going? >> he didn't conspire with anybody else, and we want to make sure, i know the dallas police department is looking into the details. i'm proud of their work and what they have accomplished in a short period of time. it's not one of the things that is done in 48 hours. it's going to take time. >> reporter: does your gut tell you there will be prosecutions? you know, i don't know. i think time will tell on that. think about how can we make sure this doesn't happen again. i think the dallas police department has been a part of doing that. they started reaching out. they were protecting protesters that were protesting against them and not only that they ran into the line of fire. that's an amazing story. run into the line of fire to protect people's free speech rights that disagree with you. >> paxton found himself in the middle of what was an emotional situation. and he used to work just blocks from there. said he's trying to process himself what happened. he's not immune to the fear that
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so many americans are feeling. his daughter is about to travel abroad and he admits given what has been going on in the world it makes him nervous. a first-hand account of the moment shots rang out. i'll speak to an eye witness who was here when thursday's peaceful protest took a deadly turn. that's next. ♪ take on any road with intuitive all-wheel drive. the nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. now get 0% apr for up to 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash. ♪
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prayed for us. it just -- we're -- it just spunk in how close to death that we really came. and you start thinking, you know, you just feeling like you're glad to be here but you're also start feeling sorry for the officers and the families that woke up without a father, and we think this is going to change everything. you know, we're going to be able to have protests anymore or the people at the church they expressed their fear of protesting again. i think this sets us back as a human race quite a bit. >> nate, are you afraid? >> i mean, definitely i am afraid, but, you know, it takes -- it takes courage. when you go out there and support something, you're always going to take a risk because people will, like they did yesterday, will try to take advantage of a good thing and use it to commit an evil crime.
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>> let's talk about that moment. i can't even imagine. after first, did you just hear something and not really realize what it was? >> no, it was clear. it was clear exactly what it was. it was -- >> you were in the military, right? >> yes. i was in the military. >> that, for you, was not a question. >> it was real. once you saw people running toward you. i didn't run immediately. i started looking for my son. >> were you separated? >> yes. we ended up separating. that's when i saw the first officer just drop to the ground and four or five other officers converged or came around him and shielded him and other officers was trying to protect the citizens saying, hey, get down, get down. they were running toward the danger and turning their backs to make sure that we were safe and i saw them roll the officer over and i believe that officer was officer thompson, you know, after seeing the reports, they
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rolled him over. he was nonresponsive immediately. i knew that something terrible happened at that point. >> and, nate, you're separated from your dad. when you heard those sounds, did you realize what was going on? >> umm, at first, i mean, i've never really been around shooting, but after, like, the first five seconds of just hearing just pow pow and seeing everybody run i realized that those were shots. that there is -- it was like a war zone and all i could think about what is going on? like, i don't know who has been shot. i don't know if they're shooting at random people at the crowd. i don't know who is being targeted. all i could worry about was my father. i will to turn around and run away from the danger to at least get myself safe and keep my dog safe in case my father is okay he's able to reach me. he knows i'm okay as well. >> so you had your dog with you. >> yes. >> and i'm guessing he might
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have been skittish by hearing and seeing the chaos. >> my dog actually, i believe he saved my life. he stopped me right before all this happened and just refused to move from his spot. he was like a rock. >> are you kidding? >> yes. he was like a rock. he stopped. that's how we got separated. i was continuing to walk forward and the dog just stopped and would not let him go any farther. that's before the shots. >> what do you think happened there? >> animals just know sometimes. >> they have an instinct or something. i have no idea. maybe it was god. i don't know. he stopped my son. >> so how long before you could reach him? >> we both had phones. about 30 minutes into it, i found some cover. i had to take the collar off the dog because he moved -- me and him moved better without the collar. he's able to run alongside me,
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and i called my dad and i just waited just anticipating just thinking like please answer. please answer. please answer. when i heard him on the other side, he's like, nate, is that you? it's like yes! >> yeah. >> mind you i'm right across from the street from the parking garage where there are several dozens of officers lined up with weapons drawn. i'm hiding in the back of a car with some news reporter. we're stuck there. >> is that what you did? you crouched behind a car or under a car. >> yes. there was an officer, i remember to this day, i wish i knew his name, but he had an m-16 with his finger on the trigger pushing back a reporter as well. i believe it was a channel 8 reporter, i'm not sure, and me to get us out of harm's way. that's when i got behind the car. and i started trying to -- at the same time i'm looking for my song. >> how long were you separated? you made the phone call about
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half an hour. when did you see nate again? >> about an hour 15 minutes later. he was way over at union train station, which is several blocks away from, you know, where everything took place. >> longest 75 minutes of your life for both of you. >> at first, i thought my wife is going to kill me because i put him in danger. this is his first protest. i've done it for many occasions for many different reasons and he's on his way to college u.c. davis and i'm like, you know, i put him in harm's way. my wife is going to kill me if i don't die here today. >> that's a very real emotion that many people can relate to. so you're about to go off to college, and you have your whole life ahead of you. do you feel lucky to be alive? do you feel sad that you saw what you saw and far too young witnessed violence. can you put into words how it's affecting you?
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>> it definitely hits me hard. it's an experience that shouldn't be felt by anybody, but it does change your views on a lot of things. it makes you realize that, i mean, you have to be -- you've basically been given time because you weren't killed in this. you could have easily been one of the targets, and you've been given time and you have to use that time to do something for this country and for this world and change something. so at some point, i'll have to give back what was given to me from this. >> it's pretty deep son you have there. >> yeah. yes. i would like to say it's all because of me but he's more like his mother. >> it's good to see you smile and good to see you laughing. you talked about going to church today and you talked about the fears of the community is feeling. a few tears shed today in the church service? >> oh, yes.
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the entire service was held on behalf of the officers. you can imagine how it feels to lose a father. or there was a female officer that was killed or injured as well. and, you know, i said this the other day. i would like to challenge anyone who says black lives matter to place those officer's names on their shirts along with the young african-american men who lost their lives. because they put their lives in jeopardy for us. they were there that day on our behalf not caring what color we were, what religion we were. they were there for us. and so how can you thank -- wake up the next day and say black lives matter when five people just gave their lives for us >>well, as you say, they ran toward danger. we're glad you were able to run away from it. earnest walker, nate, we're glad you're okay, at least physically. we're glad you came and told
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your story to us. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> good luck in school. i think you're going to do okay. >> yeah. >> thank you. >> you're a little bit proud. >> yes. >> and deservedly so. up next an in-depth look how officials responded to thursday's shooting and how they ended the standoff. ♪ ♪ (vo) you can pass down a subaru forester. (dad) she's all yours. (vo) but you get to keep the memories. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. that reminds me... anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea... ...gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against occasional digestive issues. with three types of good bacteria. live the regular life.
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confrontational last night. police in new york arresting 74 people. most rallies were peaceful. the shooting is fresh in the minds and hearts of dallas residents who have to find a way to heal. we go to nbc's tremendoaine leeh more. there is a history of unrest between police officers and african-americans. it appears to be taking a shift. i don't know if you heard my interview. the police officer the running toward danger. >> reporter: that's right. here we are, chris, on the south side of dallas. the traditional heart of the black community here. behind me at the dr. martin luther king jr. center they celebrated the anniversary of a unveiling of a dr. king statute behind me. in this community, as you mentioned, they dealt with poverty and violence and mass incarceration and police
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violence as recently as 2012 not too far from here an unarmed man james harper was shot and killed by police under questionable circumstance. the community enranged, angry at another killing. a brief stand off with police. that had been, you know, par for the course for a long time. but as you mentioned, so many in dallas say the city was just beginning to turn a corner in terms of the relationship between the police and the black communitys community especially. after a long and bloody week in which across this country where police have killed, and her in dallas police were killed. this community is wrestling with what it all means. i spoke to a few residents earlier this afternoon about moving forward. let's take a listen to what they have to say. >> america. same person that created delaware -- what's the
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difference. a sanctuary in a church and took out nine people. >> reporter: how what is the answer here? >> the answer is how you deal constitutionally with we continue to be an incubator for in this country. we want to look at other people around the world and talk about them, you know, where are we? >> reporter: there was a moment inside the center at the beginning of the program where a woman prayed. she said, you know, we pray in peace. we pray in justice. we pray in love. another figure said that we cannot drive out hate with more hate or violence with violence. it's about love. as across the country young people specially are organizing to try to end police violence and now we have violence visited upon peace officers. this community, in fact, the entire country embroiled in
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protests are seeking answers. answers that few at this moment have. >> without a doubt looking for answers and a way to find their way to a more peaceful existence. tremaine lee, thank you very much. joining me now is nbc news law enforcement analyst former hostage negotiator jim kavanaugh. jim, let's start with what we have learned over the last 24 hours or so about those last moments of the shooter's life and the fact they used this robot to go in with plastic explosives and people questioning how the negotiate got to that point. whether it should have been done. walk us through, as you see it, how this unfolded and what you think about how it ended >>well, i see a tremendous police work we the patrol division officers and traffic division motorcycle officers at the demonstrate who despite being shot at cornered this
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shooter in the parking garage. that was really good police work. very difficult. they cornered him in the parking garage. s.w.a.t. teams came in and dallas pd s.w.a.t. is one of the best in the world. they had a barricaded killer who is alone. they can deal with that. it was a different location. that was one thing. the parking garage and he said he had ieds and bombs planted across dallas. those are two unique factors in the case. he had already shot 11 policeman. this is what they were dealing with. so, you know, in a military dealing with a person like that, they would throw in a hand grenade. in the police service we don't normally toss hand grenades so usually it's a long rifleman would take him out or he would be negotiated out. but he was in this sort of a homicidal mania because he had been shooting for an hour and killed the five officers and shot more. so he was not going to
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surrender. he was just too far into it. he's a hate monger. just like the commissioner you just had on the package, just like dylann roof. he was hitting the website of the black hate groups. the new black panther party, the black riders liberation. he was on their webs. he was like dylann roof. a different target of his hate but he was a different hater. s.w.a.t. team had a lot of issues. they didn't want to lose more issues by throwing them in front of his rifle so they improvised with an explosive charge on a robot on an extended arm to drop the charge in there. we don't know the exact configuration of it but it would be some sort of an anti-personnel charge which they would be sure to take him out. some fragmentation they could put in a hand grenade. >> from what we heard from the police the negotiator basically said to him, look, this is going to end one of two ways. you're going to come out and it's going to end peacefully and
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you're not going to come out and not end peacefully. does that make sense to you? do you they other police forces will be looking at this and saying maybe this is a way to, frankly, take somebody out who poses an ongoing threat but without putting our own officers at risk >>well, in this situation, chris, at this particular location, it was the right decision because of the threat he posed. the upthreat with saying he had bombs planted around city. he could have had a denater. that was a different kind of threat. the negotiation probably was a little more elaborate than that. basically it gets down this. you're in there. we're not going to let you leave. you can surrender and be arrested, you know, you can charge at at us and we're going to shoot you. you can try to shoot at us. we're going to shoot you. you can run out of ammo and food. you're not going to come out there have. you have to be in custody.
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he's going make a choice. he's going to surrender. he's going to do decide by cop or expose himself somehow or expose himself through the police technology, the robot and the explosives and he's going to lose. and he's a loser and he lost. and, you know, we know he can't kill again. so s.w.a.t. did the right thing. they made the right choice. will they use it a lot again? i don't think so. i don't think it's taken off the table, but it's going to be unusual to see a technique like that again. not impossible but unusual. >> jim kavanaugh, thank you. >> thank you, chris. up next the movement marches on. demonstrations continuing today across the country following the deadly police-involved shootings of two black men in minnesota and louisiana. we'll get you up to date on the latest in both investigations after the break. max and i just discovered
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i'm chris jansing live in dallas. in baton rouge, louisiana where alton steriling was shot by whie police officers. hundreds gathered protest his death. this appears to be showing an officer pulling their weapon. they say tensions were high last night on both sides and they're glad that cooler heads prevailed. and in minnesota, of course, the scene of that other fatal shooting. this one of philando can steel. the video of him dying of gunshot wounds sparking so much outrage. a short time ago, the lawyer for one of the officers involved in the shooting released a statement. blake mccoy is in saint paul, minnesota with more. >> reporter: this is the first time we're hearing from anyone representing the officer jeronimo yanez. we'll go to the state, first. this is the statement that the officer's yanez is cooperating
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completely with law enforcement. he, of course, is deeply saddened for the family of philando castile and his loved ones. a tragic incident brought about by the officer having to react to the actions taken by mr. castile. this case has nothing to do with the race and everything to do with the gun. the shooting cured when castile was reaching into his back pocket to pull out identification for per the officer's request. castile told the officer he has a permit for a gun and he has a gun. immediately after the shooting, minnesota's governor mark dayton said he believed that had
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castile been a white man the outcome would have been different. there was racial issues at play here. he got a lot of pushback from law enforcement calling the remarks irresponsible. when i followed with the governor, he's standing by those. >> do you standby the remarks? >> i said them. i said them. i'm not going to back and rehash what i said yesterday. i standby what i said yesterday based on the information i had. >> the best piece of evidence you would have in a case like this is a body camera on the officer. unfortunately saint anthony police don't have body cameras. we won't have the direct point of view of the officer's. we have dash cam video with audio. the police cars were parked behind castile's car. we're not expecting it to show very much. >> okay. thank you, nbc's blake mccoy in saint paul, minnesota.
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. . . this week is seeing how the majority of americans have reacted, with empathy and understanding. >> reporter: that was president. today at the conclusion of the nato summit in warsaw, the president spoke about how the country will move forward. >> we've seen police continue to reach out to communities they serve all across the country and show incredible professionalism as they are protecting
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protesters. we've seen activists and grassroots groups who have expressed concern about police shootings but are also adamantment in their support of the dallas police department, which is particularly appropriate because the dallas police department is a great example of a department that has taken the issue of police shooting seriously. and has engaged in an approach that has not only brought down their murder rates but also drastically reduced complaints around police misconduct. that's the spirit that we all need to embrace. that's the spirit that i want to build on.
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that's one of the reasons why next week using the task force we had set up after ferguson, building on it and inviting both police and law enforcement and community activists and civil rights leaders, bringing them together to the white house. i want to start moving on constructive actions that are actually going to make a difference. that is what all americans want. when we start suggesting that there is this enormous polarization and we are back to the situation in the '60s, that's just not true. >> reporter: coming up, i'll talk to representative eddy bernice johnson who represents dallas. one of the things we want to ask
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is what does the construction action the president talked about look like. police officers responded to some of the worst moments in police lives, their efforts met with little thanks. in the aftermath of jed's tragedy, the city's police chief, david brown, says he has seen a change. >> in the police profession, we are very comfortable with not hearing thank you from citizens that need us the most. we are used to it. >> thank you so much for the sacrifice that you do every day and to do it without getting thanks on most days. i appreciate that and i love you and i am so glad you guys are here. >> so today feels like a different day than the days before this tragedy, because you are here, because dallas is a
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city that loves. we need citizens to show officers that they appreciate their sacrifice. our officers are going to need counseling for a very long time. our officers are going to need to hear from you more than just today that you appreciate their sacrifices. i want to say bhawhat i have experienced in the last 24 hours is heartfelt in you all. i want to say, thank you, from all of you, for your show of support today. we feel this today. this is something that you have shown us that you really do care. thank you so much. god's speed, god's speed. thank you, thank you. o than tylenol 8 hour. what will you do with your aleve hours?
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i'm chris jansing. coming to you from downtown dallas, the center of a complex negotiation. this is the scene where five dallas police officers lost their lives. mounting questions about why the gunman, micah johnson, decided to take out his anger as new details emerge about the 25-year-old's troubled military past. president obama addressing this tragedy while attending the nato summit in warsaw, poland, telling the world that americans stand as one. >> as painful as this week has been, i firmly believe that america is not as divided as some have suggested. americans of all races and all backgrounds are rightly outraged by the inexcusable attacks on police whether it is in dallas or any place else. >> here the grieve is palpable
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and memorials for the slain officers are springing up around the country as are demonstrations honoring the two black men killed by police in minnesota and louisiana. some have turned violent. this hour, we have all angles covered, including eyewitness accounts of thursday's shooting. how the latest massacre is requiring change. joining me is eddy bernice johnson who represents part of this city and surrounding areas. thank you for coming on. you and i spoke by satellite in the hours after this happened. how are you coming to grips with all of this in your mind? >> it is very difficult. it is very clear the city is in mourning. i felt it more after i came home to see how everyone has come together. i just left the police department where he is meeting with the delegation, the city na