in the middle of the city, so now everyone knows... we have some of the freshest juice in town. see what the power of points can do for your business. learn more at chase.com/ink this has been a tough week, first and foremost for the families that have been killed. first for the entire american family. as painful as this week has been, i firmly believe that america is not as divided as some have suggest td hello. i'm joy reid. speaking in warsaw, poland, president obama capped a devastating week for americans with the death of two black men in louisiana and minnesota and

the ambush attack on police officers in texas. it was a week of unspeakable violence. and outrage. there were two fatal police shootings of african-american men. 37-year-old alton sterling in baton rouge. >> oh, my god, please don't tell me he is dead. please don't tell me my boyfriend just went like that. >> the shootings left a trail of sorrow as kro the country. this is all ton sterling's 15-year-old son and this is philand 0 castile's mother. >> would this happen if the driver or pat passengers were

white. i don't think it would have. >> we can not allow black men who continue to be slaughtered. this morning i woke up to my wife literally crying. >> this is not just a blackish u. it is not just a hispanic issue. it is an american issue. >> by thursday, america was a nation on edge. it was a day and night of protest with an urgent message, black lives estimated. a crowd estimated at more than 800 people marched through the streets for black lives matter. there was passion and also peace in a week of us against them, black versus white, the police and the protesters in dallas seemed determined to get along. >> when the officers asked that we would stop for our own safety, we did so. they helped direct our route.

it was a peaceful rally and a very peaceful protest. >> for almost two hours, demonstrators chanted and marched peacefully, dallas police by their side. just before 9:00 p.m. as the march was ending, the crack of semi-automatic fire. >> we just heard gunfire shots ringing out from every direction. >> people scattered, gripped by panic. >> we just started to run and grab kids and help their mothers get to somewhere safe. we didn't want anyone to get hurt. >> one mother was shot and injured shielding her children. this father and son lost each other in the crowd. >> reporter: what was the most terrifying part about all of it? >> the most terrifying part was us being separated and not knowing where the bullets were coming from and seeing an officer just drop right in front of you. >> as the protesters ran awhich from the gunfire, police ran toward it and it quickly became clear, the shooter had police officers in his sights. >> all them cops, i saw cops

bending over there. there had to have been like five or six cops, they was all being shot down. >> where was the shooting coming from? how many shooters were there? >> somebody is really armed to the teeth. >> the police scanner burst into life. >> we have got a guy with a long gun. we don't know where the hell he is eight. >> in this chilling video, there he was, rifle in hand, moving with tactical, military precision. by now, more police have rushed to the area, a sea of squad cars and a phalynx of officers in s.w.a.t. gear. warnings went out, stay way from downtown. those civilians caught in the area. >> four cops down. >> witnessed what happened next. none of it seemed ream. >> it is a sniper from up here somewhere? >> it's a sniper. >> get down, get down. >> nowhere seemed safe. one man prayed in the parking garage, behind him, the sound of

sirens and more gunfire. at 10:23, there were reports of four officers shot, a few minutes later, it was ten officers shot. three of them dead. the police chief said he believed there were two snipers. on twitter, dallas police posted a photo of this man in a camouflage shirt who was apparently carrying a long gun, possibly a rifle with the message, this is one of our suspects. please, help us find him. the man later identified as mark hughes, is seen in this video walking up to an officer and giving him his rifle. it turned out he wasn't a sneer sniper but just a protester who had a license to carry the weapon. after being questioned by police, hughes was released. meanwhile, the grim numbers continue to rise. 11 officers have been shot. police announced the death of a

fourth officer. >> inside the el centro building. >> then, nearly two hours after the first shots were fired, police and s.w.a.t. teams converged on the el centro college parking garage and cornered a suspect. a college student inside the campus captured the sounds of gunfire. >> get out of the stairwell. >> somebody is shooting. >> chaos and confusion. was it one shooter or two? >> everything is locked down. >> around 11:30, police say they took a female suspect into custody. a male suspect was still at the scene. the drama switched from shooting to talking around midnight. police say they are negotiating with the alleged shooter who is now trapped inside the parking garage. >> the suspect stated we will eventually find the ieds. >> ieds, improvised explosive devices. a new concern for the police. shooter added that he was not affiliated with any group and that he did this alone.

negotiations broke down. gunfire broke out. then, dallas police decided to break out a weapon few even knee existed. they sent a robotic device armed with a bomb into the parking lot. >> the suspect is deceased as a result of detonating the bomb. >> with the sniper dead, police turned to their own losses in a powerful and poignant moment, officers saluted their fallen comrades outside parkland memorial hospital where president kennedy was pronounced more than 50 years ago. in total, 12 police officers were shot, five were dead. >> it has been a long, long morning. >> reporter: as the sun rose, dallas mayor, mike rawlings and police chief, david brown, held a press conference to discuss the deadliest day for law

enforcement since the world trade attacks since 2001. >> i want to say thank you to all the emergency personnel that have worked through the night and their calm determination to make our city safe. >> the shooter was identified as micah xavier johnson. he had also served his country in afghanistan with the u.s. army and as a member of the army reserve records showed. it is hard to explain the unexplainable. chief brown cited the shooter's own words. >> the suspect said he was upset about police shootings and wanted to kill white people, specially white officers. >> the police swept it for bombs and nothing was found. by late friday, the mayor said johnson was the lone gunman and governor greg abbott said. >> i have no information about any co-con speartors.

>> the past 24 hours in dallas has been a veritable tale of two cities. on the one hand, has been the tale of heroism of police officers. at the same time, it's been a tale of cowardes by an assassin. >> there has been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement. >> many are left wondering what actions will this country take to finally stop the violence? >> i want to now remember some of the too many lives lost this week to violence. alton sterling was 37 years old when killed by police officers in baton rouge, louisiana. he had for years sold cds in the convenience store parking lot where he was killed. family members say he had recently obtained a gun to protect himself from mugers. he was remembered as a joyful and generous man by his family.

his family and friends held a second line parade thursday in baton rouge to celebrate and honor his office. philando castile was remembered as a kind, gentle man who cared about the people that attended st. pa st. paul schools where he worked as a kitchen officer. >> officer brent thompson joined the dallas area police force in 2009. officer thompson was 43 years old and had just married a fellow officer two weeks before he was killed. officer thompson had trained police officers in iraq and afghanistan and been an instructor as a texas police academy before joining d.a.r.t. they remembered him as a great officer who served admirably. dallas police officer patrick zamarripa was 32 years old. he had joined the navy right after high school and served three tours of duty in iraq as a

naval security officer. he was married and had two children, a 2-year-old daughter and a stepson. his family remembered him as a dedicated passionate police officer. dallas police officer michael krol was killed in the line of duty thursday night. he had previously worked for the wayne county, michigan, sheriffs department before moving to dallas to join the force. sergeant michael smith served with the dallas police department for 28 years. he also served in the army for seven years. officer lorne ahrens had served with the dallas police department since 2002 after spending ten years with the los angeles county sheriff's department. he was married to a dallas police detective and remembered by colleagues as a big man with a big heart. stay with us. up next, we'll hear from political leaders reacting to this week of violence in america and the co-founder of black lives matter.

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reaction continues to pour in from political leaders. >> this has been a tough week. first and foremost for the families who have bp killed but also for the entire american family. >> a few perpetrators of evil do not represent us. they do not control us. the blame lies with the people that committed these vicious acts and no one else, as the president rightfully said, justice will be done. we also have to let the healing be done as well. >> we are one people, one family, one house. we must learn to live together as brothers and sisters. if not, we will perish as fools.

>> let's start here. let's take a moment to pray for all the families and the loved ones suffering today. >> we can begin to truly confront this, confront it by acknowledging that despite decades of progress on many fronts, millions of our fellow americans believe they are treated differently because of the color of their skin. >> every american has the right to live in safety and peace. the deaths of alton sterling in louisiana and philando castile in minnesota shows how much more work we have to do to make sure every american feel like their safety is protected. >> this should not harden our divisions but unify us as a country. >> it is more dangerous to be black in america. substantially more likely to end up in a situation where the police don't respect you and

where you could easily get killed. sometimes for whites, it is difficult to appreciate how real that is. it is an everyday danger. >> one of the things that gives me hope is seeing how the majority of americans have reacted, with emthipathy, and understanding. >> respect, decency, compassion, humanity. if we lose those fundamental things, what's left? >> we need to take a moment here for reflection, for thought, for prayer, for justice, for action. right now, let's let justice be done and let's also let some healing be done too. >> i got arrested 40 times during the '60s, left bloody, unconscious by police officers but i never hated. each time i see a police officer, whether on capitol hill

or back in atlanta or some place in texas or louisiana or wherever, in ohio, wherever, i say, thank you for your service. >> joining me now is alicia garza, co-founder of the black lives matter movement. thanks so much for being here. you just heard that montage of political leaders on both sides of the political spectrum. weren't you surprised with the exception of some people on the extreme end, were you surprised at how uniformly positive most of the reaction has been after dallas? >> no, i'm not surprised. i think what i'm excited and happy about is that the far right narrative that black lives matter is somehow a hate or terrorist group is a message that seems to be dwindling away and rightfully so. i think the majority of people in this country understand what

it is that we are up against and what it is we are fighting for. i think the majority of people in this country understand that we are not anti-police but we certainly are anti-people being murdered in our communities. i think that the majority of american people understand we are at a crossroads and that crossroads is really, which way are we going to go? are we going to go backwards in the direction of further separation and segregation in the direction of further challenges in terms of people being able to come together and have the things they need for their basic human dignity? or are we going to move forward together and try and figure out solutions to some of the many ch challenges that we face as a society. >> and alicia, black lives matter felt it important to tweet out a very explicit message saying that black lives matter stand for peace, justice and freedom, not murder.

i want to play you what president obama said in warsaw, still having to couch the black lives matter movement in the terms you are going to hear right now. take a listen. >> americans of all races and all backgrounds are rightly outraged by the inexcusable attacks on police, whether it is in dallas or any place else. that includes protesters. that includes family members who have grave concerns about police conduct. they have said that this is unacceptable. there is no division there. >> do you worry ever alicia that what happened in dallas and events like that will have a chilling effect on people's willingness to protest over the core issue of police-involved violence? >> no, i don't worry that it

will have some kind of chilling effect. i think that what the incident in dallas has done has encouraged us to look out for each other and to be one together in our fight to make sure that we are able to achieve a transparent, accountable, and safe mode and method of policing. until we get to that point, i think we will continue to see demonstrations and protests. i don't think it will have a chilling effect. i do hope, though, that as we move forward, that part of what we're doing is remembering that we have some issues that we need to solve and that in our grief and in this time of mourning that we also remember very clearly that we are, again, at a crossroads to where we get to decide which direction this country goes in. >> while we are in this moment, people in the republican and

democratic party, people of the left and people of the right, are coming together for the most part around this core idea that there is a core problem with policing that has to do with race. what would black lives matter want to do if we had a space to get something done. what two or three things would black lives matter want to see specifically done? >> i think there are a range of things we would like to see done. we want an end to the police state. what that means is we don't want our lives to be dominated and inundated by the criminalization that many of our families face every single day. what that has to look like then is transparent and responsible and accountable policing. so the way we get there are through mechanisms of community control of the police. the other way we get there is by making sure that our funding formulas are balanced. in the city i'm from, 40% of our city budget goes to policing.

meanwhile, we are having an extreme housing crisis. we are having extreme crisis in terms of unemployment. so we do need to right size how much money we are investing into law enforcement in our communities. then, the final thing that i would just offer here is i think it is important for us to make sure we are demilitarizing the police, mink we don't want our folks who are supposed to be protecting and serving us using weapons of mass destruction in our communities. those types of weapons are not necessary. ultimately, we need different ways to keep each other safe. >> i am wondering, alicia, as you do your advocacy, do you hear from individual police officers or people connected to police departments who, themselves, want to see some of these changes? >> i do. i hear from police officers lament about the culture of silence around some of the

police violence we are seeing. i hear police officers saying they are really concerned about the degrees of racism that they experience and encounter in their own departments. i also hear police officers saying that they are concerned as well about the lack of services and support for officers. officers going into a community traumatized and believing they are under attack toe their policing is aggressive. if we come together as people who want to see the similar goal of transforming policing, he can address right this minute. >> here is hoping that this moment of clarity produces something positive and concrete. alicia garza in oakland, thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> we get a historian's

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the carnage this week has made clear the deep differences in our country when it comes to race and policing. joining me now is michael besloge. it is always a treat to get to talk to you. as a historian, how did it strike you to see the events in dallas unfold near daley plaza to culminate in taking the officers to parkland hospital given the fact that the last time dallas was in the national consciousness in such a tragic way was the assassination of john f. kennedy. >> it seems like a lifetime and a half ago. i think about history all the time. it is a good moment to think about the history of this country. as you know, joy, the united states was born exactly 240

years ago this week oddly enough. if you look over all that history, i think one thing anyone has to be impressed by is the ability of this country after a horrible week like this to heal and unite and improve. sometimes it takes maddeningly long. sometimes after an off week, we come to see what lincoln called the better angels of our nature. you know better than most that in 1963, the death of john f. kennedy that precipitated the election where lyndon johnson had to step forward. the two of them were grappling with the country's founding conundrum, how to be a country born in individual freedom but that central question in 1964. how did our politics deal with

that fact back then when lyndon johnson was frying to do that? >> we were lucky enough to have a president who was from the south and sensitive to the difficulties that had been brought on by the civil rights act which he signed. he used to say his favorite part of the bible was where isaiah said, come and let us ryan together. during that year, you had a leader who was a grown-up. sometimes in american history, you have had a horrible week like this and there are leaders who try to exploit that and exacerbate violence for their political purposes. the last couple of days, our leaders have been quite inspiring for the most part. >> we know there were two things that sort of resonate with me that came out of the two assassinations, two of the three that broiled the country in that

period, that you did have this big move toward gun control after the kennedy assassination or at least the idea of mailing guns through the mail. you also had in 1968 all that was happening in terms of rioting and urban violence. that wound up playing a role in the 1968 election too. >> it did. george wallace was running for president. he tried to exploit that and say the rioting that's happened is an example of the need for people to realize that i'm right in saying there is a big need for law and order. we are not seeing that here this week. sometimes you have to be grateful for what you are not seeing. i think one thing if you go through the entire history is that the way we've dealt with a week like this best is when we take a moment to absorb this and then decide what to do. that was easier at the time of george washington. if you wanted to argue with george washington, you would either have to get on your horse and go see him, that would take days, or write a letter, which would sometime take weeks. the result was if the democracy

had a moment to take a breath and do this with some deliberation. one advantage we have got that at the didn't have in those days, because of our means of communication nowadays, we can have the kind of national conversation about this that was impossible at the beginning. >> we also through the magic of cell phones could actually see in real time some of the things that were precipitating the riots in the 1960s, which were incidents of police violence against civilians. can you talk about the nexus between black lives matter now and its equivalent during the civil rights movement that john lewis and others were involved in. >> done lewis was saying and he was so eloquent, they were saying the situation then was not acceptable and we, the demonstrators, he and the others were making all sorts of sacrifices to change the

country. the whole rule of this country, if you were to look at one theme that runs throughout is that the country sometimes does take a long time. it does change and adapt and reform in whatever way that's going to happen. you have to assume that 2016 is not an exception. >> it has been striking to watch political leaders who have just been at such loggerheads with each other over everything. the debate has deteriorated in a way that's distressing to a lot of americans. something does seem to be different after dallas. you are seeing the grown-ups in a lot of these politicians coming forward. do you feel hopeful this can last or is this just a momentary blip before we go back into the madness of the campaign. >> i do feel it can last. i can see a lot of other presidential campaigns where nothing like this has happened but sometimes things that were violent and threatened to divide the country and you had grown-ups to say, hold on a moment. let's keep this country united and look at this in a larger framework. i think that's what we are

seeing. we should all be very grateful for that. >> is there something hopeful in past years that you have been able to see them to bring the country together. do you see the possibility of that in the people that are running today? >> i do. >> it is in the dna of this country. social needs that still remain. somehow there is something in this country that causes people when a moment like this comes to say this is a moment to unite. at the same time, decide what we can do to make things better. >> well, michael beschloss, it is always a wonderful opportunity to get to talk to you. thank you very much. >> thank you, joy. >> can the recent tragedies help us reset the relationship between police and communities of color?

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thursday's mass shooting came amidst nor debate of policing in america. chief brown has a personal history that gives him a unique perspective on tragedy. here is rehema ellis on nbc. >> we're hurting. our profession is hurting. >> in so many ways, for dallas police chief brown, this tragedy is personal. >> there are no words to describe the atrocity that occurred to our city. >> reporter: at 55 years old, he is also chief of more than 4,000 officers, the married father is a self-described loner in a very public job.

less than two months after he was sworn in as chief six years ago he was tested in both a professional and personal way. >> it appears the shooter is going to be david o'neill brown jr. >> chief brown's only son and his namesake was himself killed after he gunned down two other people. one of them a police officer. >> i remember closing my son's casket in the church. i remember sitting at the burial site and everything else is a blur. >> reporter: the 30-year police veteran has endured the violence death of his brother and police partner. while sometimes abrasive, he is known for his kindness, often putting pictures showing his dedication to the people of dallas. >> we are not going to let a coward who would ambush police officers change our democracy. >> reporter: tonight, when his city needs it the most, he is a

strong, steady voice of passion and concern specially for his fellow officers. >> all i know is that this must stop. this divisiveness between our police and our citizens. >> chief brown has dedicated his whole life to one job. >> i have never been more proud of a police officer and being part of this great, noble profession. >> reporter: a department that has been put to its greatest tests with its chief commanding the way. rehema ellis, nbc news. up next, the attorney general calls for unity ♪ take on the unexpected with a car that could stop for you. nissan safety shield technologies, available in the altima, sentra and maxima. now get 0% apr for up to 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash. ♪

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week, americans across our country are feeling a sense of helplessness, of uncertainty and fear. these feelings are understandable and they are

justified. the answer must not be violence. the answer is never violence. i urge you to remember today and every day we are one nation, one people and we stand together. >> attorney general loretta lynch was among the many voices urging americans to come together after the deadly shootings this week. for more on where we go from here, i am joined by washington post writer and nbc contributor, jonathan okay part, mya wylie and eugene o'donnell, nypd officer formerly and professor of law. >> i spoke with alicia garza, one of the co-founders of black lives matter. one of the things she said that was fascinating is she talks to police officer who want this to change. how if we all agree, how do we take steps to get it to change? >> this is absurd to be

demonizing black lives matter, which is a cross racial group of people. the civil rights movement was demonized, dr. king was demonized. he was called a communist. there is nothing new. there are irresponsible people in every group. these are kids cross racially. hate is becoming totally uncool in this country among young people. they are putting the older generation to shame. that's really important to say. the idea the cops have some investment in the status quo or a love of yesteryear. that's incorrect. if they get direction, they can move forward. >> let's talk about kellon

nixon. let's take a listen to him and what he believed the protest was about. >> what took place was hatred. it wasn't black lives matter. it wasn't police. it was pure hatred. until we resolve our hate issue, we'll continue to see these things. >> he had to scramble to protect his son and the hatred he was describing of course is this horrific mass shooting in which police officers were targeted. >> i think what's so important about this moment is how many people have come together, activists, police officers, folks from all sectors of the community and all p communities to say we actually are our own best hope as james baldwin once said. so much attention on how we look at the transparency and accountability that continues to support effective policing. i think eugene is absolutely right. one of the things we are hearing from new york city police

officers, they want community policing. they like sectors to get to know the problems underlying and understand better where the problems are and how to have a better relationship with the community in order to solve those problems. i think that's the kind of hope that we have and the fact that we all understand that police officers need to be able to do their jobs. there are people in black communities that want effective policing. >> jonathan, you have been covering black lives matter. it started officially in 2013. the story of the police versus the community and the tension there goes much earlier than that. are we in a moment, a bubble, when because dallas was so shocking and we have enough agreement that people might accept that black lives matter is trying to play a role that would help the entire society, including the police, to do their jobs better? >> i think so.

the fact that this horrible thing that happened to the dallas police department is the silver lining in here is that the dallas police department was doing all the right things. all the things that the black lives matter movement around the country has been demanding of police departments, dallas is doing it. we have to expand and see that the president's task force and 2 1st policing, they are trying to get more police departments to do, community policing. going from having the posture of soldiers to going back to having the posture of actually protecting the community and knowing the community that they are patrolling and that they are serving. i agree with eugene, i think another silver lining is that the black lives matter movement is not just black people. it is all americans coming together and thankfully a lot of these horrific things that have

happened have been caught on video. so now everyone can see what african-americans have been complaining about, arguing against for generations. now, everybody cease sees it. once you see it, it is impossible to go back to the status quo. >> serena williams on winning her 22nd grand slam actually made a statement about this very issue saying i do have nephews and i'm thinking, do i have to call them and tell them, don't go outside. if you get in your car, it might be the last time i see you. that kind of fear of police goes all the way up the economic spectrum. it doesn't matter whether you are a famous african-american, or not famous, rich or poor. it is so ubiquitous, it is hard to avoid that it is a real problem. >> is there any doubt, any reasonable person that would look at this and doubt this.

we talk about community policing. just to bring this into real life. staten island, new york, eric kar garner, a situation in which he ended up being killed, a terrible trauma for the community. i am absolutely convinced if we had a community based send one cop out there and this is not to malign the cops the way this thing went down but face to face interaction with a cop known to eric garner, addressing respectfully non-confrontationally, i'm convinced that's the case. overwhelmingly likely it would not have ended like it did. people talk about policing. let's call it the way it is. what is the the actual benefit? that's one case, i think, it would be beneficial. >> you worked for the city of new york and know firsthand how difficult it is to get concrete changes because you also have a negotiation that's a labor contract negotiation with the police department and unions that are there to protect the

interests of their members and so this might be a secondary issue to them if they want really strong police officers, bill of rights and things like that to make transparency more difficult. how do cities navigate that divide? >> it's really important for cities to talk to all stake holders and create a set of principles fundamental to change. for example, i think the new york city police department has done a great job of framing this as one city, safe and fair. we're all one. this is about all of us. and we all have to align around safety and fairness as two core principles. the rest, obviously, gets negotiated as you said but i want to point we have real successes over the last two years. civilian complaint review board, fewer complaints in a dramatic way from 2014. that's a positive sign. the second positive sign is the fact that we have actually seen

an increase in disciplinary actions where there have been substantiated cases. that creates more public trust that, in the few instances, because we should remember there's 36,000 police officers, not that many complaints in terms of police officers, that where they are substantiated that actual action takes place including retraining. >> at the same time, the real jeopardy that police officers face, we saw in stark display in dallas. not only the jeopardy of people who may have a psychological issue, who may have some paranoid view of police or vendetta, we don't know what the motivation is there but we know in a lot of cases that police are outgunned by the citizens they're trying to police. >> that gets to the larger conversation about gun control and how the citizens are able to outgun the police. how it's possible that a madman with a gun or a mad person with

a gun could not only put the community in danger but the very people who are there to protect the community, put them in danger. there's several conversations that need to be had. there needs to be the racial conversation. there needs to be the societal conversation and overall hatred and then the conversation about how is it possible that people who might have mental problems, that might have racial hatred in general, how are they able to easily get the fire power to not only wreak havoc on communities but wreak havoc on the police departments that are there to protect those communities? >> how do we get the officers themselves in police departments to the table in this conversation? whether it's gun control or community policing, it's the citizen and sometimes not even all the political sides at that table. how do we invite the police community to this table?

>> you have to have a real conversation about what they live with and they live with, not everywhere, but it's complex and you have to have that conversation. and you have to convince them. you have to convince them that the answer to absurd extremist hate dialogue coming outside, you should say, keep it out of the agency or inside, to people who say crazy things like the president is an islamic terrorist. that's insane. there's a crossing of line. we have to say, that's crazy. no simple solutions. i do think that the cops have to be addressed realistically. >> mental health, jonathan said it and i think it's critically important. you can't understand some of the shootings we've seen, particularly dallas, without understanding the fact we've not invested sufficiently in the country and prevented mental health issues that result in homicides. police officers like teachers are actually dealing with the

front lines of society problems, we as a society need to understand and address in order to more affect the communities. that will support police officers and teachers and support safety and it will prevent people from getting to a point where they're getting involved in the criminal justice system because of mental health issues. $850 million is what new york city has put on the table to actually address this because of fundamental foundational issue. that is something that this country must address an peopd p of color in particular. less likely to get the services they need when they need them. >> and this department in dallas. the psychological torment and at the same time, the families of people like castile who have to go on. are we missing that entire piece of the conversation?

>> the cops. the issue of the cops is to remind them why most of them took the job and they know if they look hard. there's a fundamental. >> do you feel, in this moment? >> like i said before, i am hopeful because the people who were out there protesting, the shootings that happened, the the police involved shootings that happened of civilians, it wasn't just black people out protesting. it was americans out protesting in cities across the country.

to me, if we, as a nation, are going to move forward in the racial conversation, it's that coalition that's going to make it happen. >> thank you all so much for being heare. and stay with msnbc for all the latest news and developments as it happens. chris hayes picks up the continuing coverage after the break.

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