and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. good morning. i'm al sharpton. on this sunday morning millions of americans will pray for those whose lost their lives in this week's terrible tragedies. they will also be praying for us as a nation. as we try to make sense of what's happened. and where we go from here. tonight president obama cutting his overseas trip short returns home to face a country on edge. live prefts this weekend, a wave of reaction to this week's senseless tragedies. overnight in st. paul, minnesota, demonstrators facing off with police officers, said

protesters were throwing object, 100 people were arrested. baton rouge, protest grew tense at times, more than 30 arrests. now the search for answers. we're learning more about the gunman in dallas, a former aerm reservist who wrote in his journal about sniper tactics and we're learning about the funeral arrangements for those who lost their lives. we're seeing images like this one from dallas of the hearst carrying officer michael krol. and a vigil in washington at the national law enforcement memorial. we're witnessing the grieving of families. reacting to private tragedies under a national

>> he's 15 years old. he had to watch this as this was put out over all the out lets and everything possible to be shown. >> it's live. so i'm watching him fight. >> fight for his life. >> and i'm trying to tell her to go faster. >> all this hate has to stop. i don't care if you're black, white, green, purple. it needs to stop. >> president obama will travel to dallas this week. he's calling for unity. >> there is sorrow, there is anger, there is confusion about next steps. but there's unity in recognizing that this is not how we want our communities to operate. this is not who we want to be as

americans. and that serves as the basis for us being able to move forward. >> in a moment, i'll be speaking with alton sterling's aunt, the woman who raised him. and who is now deep in her grief. let's first go to dallas where nbc's jacob is standing by outside police headquarters. jacob, what's the mood where you are? >> reporter: so it's early here, al, but we've been spending a lot of time at this memorial. there's hundreds of notes and flowers left on the patrol cars outside of police headquarters. any time an officer dies in the line of duty they pull up a patrol car in front of the headquarters and other divisions but this time the outpouring of support from the community is much different to the level of tragedy. you have officers out here who have never seen this kind of

support. we've been speaking to officers, black, white, hispanic officers. one officer told me yesterday he's never seen this kind of support. he was very frank with me telling me out on the streets every day he doesn't hear people simply tell him he's appreciated for the work that he does and he was a bit overwhelmed to see the kind of support that he's getting. as far as those who are coming and actually leaving notes, some are family and friends of the officers who were wounded or killed but most the overwhelming majority are strangers who may never had any interaction with police or at least these police officers. one woman i spoke to who was a goodle example of how some are feeling, she said she was so conflicted that her heart went out to the froom community but that her heart also went out to the law enforcement community and she broke down in tears asking why is there so much hate, why can't we love each

other. you have a lot of that out here. a lot of people astounded at the level of grief. >> jake, thank you so much. now let's go to nbc sara in baton rouge outside the convenience store where alton sterling died. sara, dozens of protesters were arrested this weekend. do you expect more protests today? >> reporter: yeah, we do. it was another tense night here in baton rouge, filled with protesters, arrests as you mentioned and police in riot gear. demonstrators first marched from city hall to the state capital about 500 people carrying signs, chanting the name of sterling, the man who was shot and killed by police in front of this convenience store there behind me. there was a second protest site as well, that's what you're seeing on your screen right now. that was near police headquarters about 3 1/2 miles from where i'm standing.

you saw protesters facing off with police there in riot gear. right now we know of 30 people arrested, police say they also confiscated two guns. now among those arrested were prominent black lives matter activist duane mcevans. it's not clear if he and the others arrested last night arrested. so many of these protests and so many of these voices finding an additional platform on social media. back to you. >> thank you for your report. joining me now is alton sterling's aunt, sandra sterling who is live in dallas this morning, and edmond jordan, attorney for the sterling family. first of all, thank you both for being here. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. >> first of all, again, sandra, my condolences for your loss as

i've expressed to you in talking to you. how are you doing today? >> i'm doing very good. i slept very well last night. i am still troubled. >> you've expressed that you want the name of alton, who you raised, his mother is not with us, to be associated with violence and police killings. is that why you've traveled to dallas to give -- to give that message nationally that you do not want alton's pursuit of justice to be confused with any violence against police? >> that's true. i don't promote violence. we never did. i want to reiterate, i am alton's aunt. my sister died. he was, in fact, raised by my

other two sisters. there's too much going on. i'm to the point i don't know who to trust, the public, the police. at first i was okay with everybody. >> what do you say to the families of the fallen officers and to the family of philando castille. . >> we don't promote violence. what that man did -- we want justice for alton. but i'm sorry that happened to him. they feel now what i'm feeling. i didn't want that to happen. i just wanted justice. >> attorney jordan what would justice look like for the sterling family? >> well, i'll tell you what, justice initially right now would look like baton rouge

police department returning that surveillance video to the owner of triple s food mart. that video being released to the public so we can put everything in its proper context and also these officers being prosecuted and what i'm going to do when we get back to baton rouge today and tomorrow i'm going to formally request that our attorney general, attorney general jeff landry appoint a special prosecutor to look into this matter. i know it may not happen until the fbi completes their investigation but that's what we want. not only do we want federal charges brought we also want the state to look deep into this matter and bring charges as well. >> sandra tell me about alton sterling. what kind of person was he? and you said he made everybody laugh. >> he did. even as a little kid he made everybody laugh. he grew up with that making

everybody laugh. he was a good kid. he didn't get what he deserved. that tape was horrible. it was horrible. horrible to watch. he was a good kid. >> as you prepare for his funeral services and i know you've invited some of us to come in, the families coming together and still mourning and you intend to lay him to rest this week, sandra? >> yes, sir. on friday. >> sandra sterling and edmond jordan, thank you for your time this morning. and, again, our thoughts and prayers are with you and we'll be joining you later this week. okay. thank you. joining me now is willi william yeoman. he served as acting attorney general general for civil rights. thanks for being here. first, you served nearly three decades in law enforcement at the justice department. what are your thoughts this morning as we reflect back on

this week? >> well, it's been a tragic week, obviously. and i think that the starting point has to be that we need to think about unity. we can't divide further. we need to find our common values and start to build from there. but what we need to do, we need pursue justice in all of these cases. we need to, in baton rouge, and in minnesota we need to pursue those cases with vigor and we need to find out fully what happened in dallas and we need to think as we go forward about what we can do to avoid future situations like this. and i think that recipe involves continuing to press for improvements in policing and making sure that police officers have the training and the resources that they need to do the best job possible because most of them do want to do the best job possible. and we need to reassure

communities that they will get good policing, so i think that's starts, obviously, with pursuing criminal investigations, pursuing them vigorously. but we need to recognize the limits on those criminal investigations. police officers as defendants quite properly have all the protections that criminal defendants have so they are represented by counsel. they have right against self-inincriminatation. they can cross-examine the witnesses against them and the government has to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. the fact of acquittal should not be mistakenly taken as a statement that nothing wrong happened. we know from the videos that things went horribly wrong, and the push to improve policing should not stop with a criminal verdict. >> the justice department is investigating the shooting in baton rouge but hasn't committed to doing so in minnesota.

what explains the difference? >> well, we don't know for sure. i think part of the difference is in baton rouge everyone from the governor to the chief of police requested that the federal government come in and take over the investigation. in minnesota the minnesota investigative bureau seems to be pursuing a vigorous investigation, the ramsay county district attorney is very engaged, and traditionally the department of justice in these cases will step back and allow state authorities to go first if it looks like they are purr sawing good faith vigorous investigation. and so the situation in baton rouge is a little unusual to have the federal government, the fbi, the u.s. attorney's office and civil rights division come in before the state does an investigation. >> you know, talking about minnesota, in the case of philando castille he was stopped for 52 times for traffic offensives, everything from speeding to driving without a

muffler. he paid over $6,000 in fines and fees. i mean what does that tell you? >> i think, you know, it suggests, and i don't have the facts to prove this. it suggests there's racial policing going on. it's one of the things that we need to address. i will say that the justice department not only has the criminal authority but also has the authority to bring civil cases to address patterns of constitutional violations and one of the constitutional via lagss that it looks at closely is racial biassed policing, racial bias in stops, searches, arrests, and it has found significant problems. the ferguson report that the department of justice issued was, i think, a stunning document and it detailed enormous racial bias in policing and i think that is not an isolated problem. to say the least. >> william yeomans thank you for your time.

>> my pleasure. >> still ahead, turning tragedy into action. some critics already attacking president obama's leadership for speaking out on guns and violence. we'll talk to the chair of the congressional black caucus. plus how the tragedies are affecting the presidential race. two very different reactions from hillary clinton and donald trump. also how can america emerge from this stronger and more united. we hear from the president of the national urban league. stay with us. ♪ using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the framework... wire... and plants needed to give my shop... a face...

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single american when i say we're horrified over these events and we stant yd united with the peo and the police department in dallas. >> president obama trying to you night a divided nation in the wake of this week's events. the trajs gedies in dallas, bat rouge and minnesota quickly turning political. representative roger williams said the president had contributed to the modern day hostage unt ho hostility. >> i think this is a time when real leaders bring people together and don't split them apart. he doesn't need to interject political arguments like gun control. >> this is an example of a weakness when our president goes overseas and has a terrible

tragedy like this. >> challenge the hillary clintons and bernie sanderss to say american lives matter. all american lives. >> meanwhile other voices were calling for action on policy. members of the congressional black caucus urged a new focus on legislation to reduce gun violence. joining me now is the chairman of the cbc, congressman g.k. butterfield. thanks for being here, mr. chairman. >> thank you. good morning. let me begin this interview, by extending by condolences to the sterling and to the castille families and the other 500 families this year who have lost loved ones at the hands of police violence. also to the families of the police officers in dallas who were senselessly assassinated this week. we give our heart felt sympathy to all of those families. >> what's the reaction to the criticism that we're hearing

against president obama who has also given condolences to all as we all are. but what's your reaction to the criticism that he's had for speaking out on gun violence this week? >> this is not a complicated issue. the fact is that police officers all across the country, some of them are using lethal force when it is unnecessary in making an arrest. 512 individuals in this country have been killed by police officers unnecessarily. we need to train and retrain our police officers, the federal government has a role in investing in programs that will make that happen. police officers need to use lethal force as a last result and not a first option. >> you know the head of the national law enforcement advocacy group accuses the president of waging a war on cops. watch this, mr. chairman. >> the obama administration is

the neville chamberlain of this war. their continued appeasement at the federal level with the department of justice, their appeasement of violent criminals, the refusal to condemn moments like black lives matter actively calling for the death of police officers, that type of thing, all the while blaming police for the problems in this country has led direct try to the climate that has made dallas possible. >> i mean how do you react to that. clearly many of us that have called for police reform want to make it clear we're not, as the family of both of the victims this week who were killed this week have said they don't want anything to do with calling for the death of police, but how do you react to them trying to connect the president to extreme statements and extreme forces that they are blatantly trying to connect to the president. >> i want to first set the

record straight on black lives matter. congressional black caucus supports black lives matter and embrace their movement because it's a nonviolent movement. to connect black lives matter to the violence that's taking place against police officers is absolutely absurd. so i want to set the record straight on that. secondly to connect president obama to the violence that's happening and the misconduct of police officers is also absurd. what we must do as a nation is to have legislation. we have challenged speaker ryan and i've had substantial conversations with speaker ryan over the last three days and we've asked him almost to the point of demanding of speaker ryan that we have hearing, we have a hearing next week on police misconduct and excessive use of force by police officers and i'm encouraged by his response. he understands the crisis we have in america. president obama certainly understands it. the police departments across

the country need to have sensitivity training and unconscious bias training and training and retraining of police officers must be the way we go forward. we cannot continue to have 500 innocent americans, many of whom are african-american murdered by police officers but 99% of our police officers are good solid police officers but there's that one tenth of a percent that's doing damage in our communities and it must stop. we must do our part and pass legislation. >> let's talk congress. we had the sit in in congress led by john lewis and yourself and others. it didn't result in a gun control vote but the senate filibuster did, but nothing passed. what's next in that fight, mr. chairman? >> well, we have two issues

growi going. first the murderous acts of police officers against innocent americans but also the issue of high capacity guns that are on our streets. there's no reason that an ar-15 needs to be in the hands of any person on the street. that's a battlefield weapon. so what we want in congress is not right now to ban the high capacity weapons because politically that's not going to happen. right now we're asking for legislation to take guns out of the hands of terrorists and would be terrorists, those who are on the watch list. they have no reason to own a gun. we must forbid that. we must also require background checks. before you can buy a gun you need to be investigated to determine if you're law-abiding and capable of handling that weapon. that's where we want to begin. background checks, no-fly, no buy. we're demanding, we're demanding of the republicans to give us a vote. so far they have refused. but i believe there's going to be a break through soon. but all of this says reverend we got to participate in the

november election and make sure that those that make the laws are responsible. >> congressman butterfield, chair of the congressional black caucus thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> next, recent tragedies hit the campaign trail. how the candidates are reacting. that's next. plus president obama heading back to the u.s. in the wake of these string of tragedies. we're waiting for new comments from him. stay with us. you show up. you stay up. you listen. you laugh. you worry. you do whatever it takes to take care of your family. and when it's time to plan for your family's future, we're here for you. we're legalzoom, and for over 10 years we've helped families just like yours with wills and living trusts. so when you're ready, start with us. doing the right thing has never been easier. legalzoom. legal help is here.

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america. >> we have some very deep divides in our country, and if we don't start addressing them and that's a matter of urgency and it's not just for some people to do it, but it's for all of us to do it, then i believe that we will find ourselves in an even worse downward spiral. >> and she addressed the tragedies again at the ame convention in philadelphia. >> we know there is something wrong with our country. there is too little trust in too many places between police and the communities they are sworn to protect. with so little common ground, it can feel impossible to have the conversations we need to have, to begin fixing what's broken.

>> trump's main response came late friday in a facebook video, where he addressed both the officers shootings and the two men killed earlier by police. >> the deaths of alton sterling in louisiana and philando castille in minnesota also make clear how much more work we have to do to make every american feel that their safety is protected. we must work together and stand together. we will make america safe again. >> so, how will the shootings impact the 2016 race? will either candidate emerge as a unifying voice? that's next. ♪

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>> we must stand in solidarity with law enforcement which we must remember is the force between civilization and total chaos. the presidential candidates speaking out in response to these tragedies that have stunned the nation. and divided people all across the country. joining me now are joan walsh msnbc political analyst and national affairs correspondent for the nation and edmond siegfried gop strategist and former rudy giuliani campaign aide and author of "gop gps." thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> joan, clinton gave several interviews at a major speech. trump released a facebook video. what do you make of that? >> well, i never praise donald

trump but i have to say somebody wrote him a pretty good statement that day. >> that he actually read. designee actually read it. when he read it it sounded more fierce and tough. he did neglect to note that two men killed were african-american. designee called their name. designee called out their names, used their names and talked about them with a tone of respect. so that's a start. i mean secretary clinton did much, much more than that and as we would expect. she tried to talk about both, we don't want violence against police of course but we can't drop these issues of policing and training and justice. i also really like the fact that sheing talked about it as a white person, as white people needing to listen to what african-americans are telling us. we need to be the ones to do the work, not that african-americans need to just keep trying to get it through our white thick skulls that they are dying at the hands of police. so it's kind of rare that you hear white people talk about

themselves as white people and talk to other white people. i really liked that. >> same question to you, what do you take, was your takeaway, what do you make of both candidates and how they responded to this? >> they both responded in trying to get to their particular bases. they didn't really reach out towards the middle because like me i believe all-black lives matter as well as being pro cop and the two -- you can't be one withouting the other. donald trump could have gone out and addressed two major criticisms about his campaign in this statement. company have gone out and reached out to the african-american community but he didn't. then company have also gone out and given details how he'll make america safe again. but he didn't. >> why do you think he didn't reach out to the african-american community? why do you think he didn't detail what he's going to do about these kinds of issues. >> because he doesn't know himself what he'll do. let's be honest. donald trump is in over his head when it comes to issues of any

policy. so he could have gone out and talked about how police body cameras would help that and reduce wrongful shootings, how these shootings were tragic. he did go further than nra who only referred to it in a facebook post on friday afternoon as a situation in minnesota. >> in both cases you have people with guns that were killed by police legally. one had a gun permit. nra advocating on their behalf. >> that's going to come back to bite them. conservatives right now are very upset because they say, okay, the nra has made a, made their point to be standing up for gun owners and you have two gun owners who has no voice for them. >> there's some push back among members. >> in general. this morning, a story this morning talking about how -- i

read on several sites where some nra members are fighting back which is why i raised my point. let me go back to trump for a moment. corey stewart, a republican gubernatorial candidate in virginia and the chairman of trump's election in the swing state posted on facebook blaming clinton for the dallas shooting saying quote, liberal politicians who label police as racists specifically hillary clinton and virginia lieutenant governor ralph northam are to blame for essentially encouraging the murder of these police officers tonight. now the trump campaign has disavowed stewart's statement and later took it down. is this kinds of rhetoric helping or hurting the trump campaign and the base? >> those are two different things. it helps him with the base but doesn't help the campaign since we're now in the general election and he needs to begin

reaching out beyond that maybe 30, 35, 40% of the public and that staunch gop base. they are two different things and donald trump and his campaign haven't learned that. >> evan, you're the republican among the three of us talking this morning. is this helping to expand? >> i don't know what his base believes because they have been listening to him and his conspiracy theories. donald trump's campaign need to distance himself from their own conspiracy theories. corey stewart is the chairman that donald trump deserves. what he said is atrocious. further divides us. company have talked about -- there were three tragedies that took seven lives in three days and it shouldn't have happened. but instead he pushed us further apart. >> will any of this affect the tone coming this weekend as we head into the republican

convention? >> absolutely. it's going to be -- we're going to see a very divided tone and that's sad. there's a lot of common ground republicans and democrats can work towards to solve these problems. >> will it affect? >> i think it will. i really was struck. let me praise a couple of other people. marco rubio made an important statement. pat ryan said wonderful things. these people who were blaming the president and hillary clinton, and saying that the critique is all cops is racist is false that's not the critique are divisive and they are now starting to divide their party. >> joan walsh, evan siegfried thank you for your time. still ahead the president traveling overseas before heading home later today. we're expecting remarks from him soon from spain. coming up, next, i'll talk to martin morial about race and

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our country whether they be white or whether they be black. robert f. kennedy's speech in indianapolis the night dr. martin luther king was assassinated. nearly 50 years later these issues of race and vilolence ar still with us. after the dallas shootings the "new york post" this cover quote "civil war." it was widely condemned on the left and right because in times like this we need an honest but constructive conversation and on friday the dallas mayor offered this blunt but emotional assessments. >> we as a city, as a state, as a nation are struggling with racial issues. this is on my generation of leaders. it is on our watch that we have allowed this to continue to

fester. that we have led the next generation down a vicious path. >> joining me now is marc morial president of the national urban league. first of all, good morning. isn't the mayor right, these issues of race and poverty, policing and justice, they are not new issues. haven't they been allowed to fester without action? >> seems to be an ugly repeat of the past. it seems to be an escalation of challenges that somehow maybe we pretended that we gotten past but we have not gotten past. and, reverend, this s-he's right, on our watch. because it's on our watch, this generation, we have to confront it and deal with it or the legacy we leave our children is an america far worse off than

even the america of the challenges of these times and today. >> you know, i watched robert kennedy speech, i remember i was 13 when dr. king was killed and i just joined his organization and i thought that when our time came, our generation we would have made such a difference and in some ways we did. but now we are here and we are seeing some of the same strife, maybe not as in terms of mass rioting, some of the same strife and the challenge for us to legislate and really change things with policy as a lot of the next generation and your organization and mine and other moments are saying we want answers. >> and you put your finger on it when it comes to policing. it requires changes in practices, in policies, in procedures, in training, in hiring, in disciplining at each

and every local level in the country. it's not a magic wand. it's not a singl legislative act. but policy changes -- the 1960s taught us something. activism and protests has to lead to meaningful change. what we've had is conversation. conversation is good, but now we need conversation at least to action. my appeal is for people of goodwill across spectrum. this idea of looking to blame people, whether it's the "new york post" very inflammatory cover or people in politics saying this candidate or that candidate, it's not constructive because it distracts from the real underlying challenge. we have a cycle of violence that's being played out in too many ways, police officers being shot. i condemn that forcefully.

citizens having their lives taken away in an unjustifiable way we condemn that forcefully. people in the community, gang bangers and others taking lives of others, we should condemn that forcefully all the way across the board. >> you've been not only the leader of the national urban league the last decade but you've been mayor of new orleans. one of the things i've known in my active jacksonville down through the years is a lot of the policing issues come down to the city and the local police chiefs and all, and the national administration, the white house and all can do certain things and certainly the congress can legislate. but it is executed on a very local level. >> reverend, the powers of the presidency, the congress and the justice department are considerable. but when you really get down to this issue, you can change it on a local level. you can change, change it. my experience in new orleans in

transforming that department told me that local leadership, mayor, city council members and i would encourage them, don't look to washington for all your solutions. deal with it locally and so that's why i think you've got not only local activism but that this conversation and the public policy changes we need are going to have to happen city by city, county by county, community by community. >> the president is going at some point to dallas, complicated with federal investigations of him to go to where the police shootings were. i don't know what he's going to do but he's got to deal with fact that there are open investigations and how that could be made to appear. but he has said he's going to deal with the recommendations from his task force and from his meetings with people like you and i who lead civil rights organizations and faith leaders.

the tone he sets will mean nothing if it's not legislated and at the local level. >> the president is in a unique position and important position. i was pleased to see him step up even though he was overseas immediately and make statements. i know we'll support his efforts to follow through those 21st century policing recommendations. every city ought to get them and work on implementing them now. >> marc morial thank you for being with me this morning. my thoughts on where we go from here is next. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension. your blood pressure could drop to an unsafe level. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor about viagra single packs.

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we must learn to live together as brothers and sisters. if not we'll perish as fools. >> learn to live together as brothers and sisters. but how do we do that? we need real direct and concrete steps. when i joined the civil rights movement as a youngster, at 13, we were taught you have

demonstration, but it must thread leverage allocation and then reconciliation. we can't get to reconciliation without fundamental real concrete change. in policing, in how to community deals, even in how we deal internally in the community with the gun control issue and the use of gun violence one to another. this is a very difficult time. but it takes real people that are willing to do hard things. come outside their comfort zone to make society adjust, to heal what we see by taking concrete action. you may have to reach across the aisles that we've all backed into different corners. but we got to do it and we got to make it permanent law and permanent policy. so that we have equal protection under the law. and equal respect for one

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oivgsz are >> a live look at president obama main drid, spain where he's meeting with the prime minister there. he's giving some brief remarks. >> the tough situation at home and my need to rearrange my schedule. i was hoping for a longer stay but i thought that it was important to make sure while i was still president i visit because the relationship between the two of us is a friendship,