>> i think we should begin day one, msnbc. >> oh, yeah. where else? >> it was bare bones, nerve wracking. >> i can't believe it's been 20 years. msnbc was such a cutting edge place whether he it went on the air. >> favorite msnbc memory? >> she does not have a short memory. i have a short memory. >> thank you so much, reverend. >> thank you. bill maher plays hardball. good evening. i'm chris matthews. the republican convention is just days away and the parties' nominee is running the most unpredictable some would say confounding campaign in recent times. only 30% of the american voters consider her trustworthy. on top of that the country seems polarized on race and policing.

whose vision will prevail this november? with me for the full hour, comedian bill maher. he's the host on friday night. and hosts the episodes all live during the episodes of the democratic convention. bill, thank you. >> great to be here. >> there's nothing like being here because i can ask you the toughist question. >> please do. >> if you had somebody living overseas, how would you explain the racial issues in this country? >> some don't have this problem because they don't have history of slavery like we do. we never got race right in this country. it's the original sin in this country, the fault line we've tried to cover up. i just watched that recent documentary on o.j. simpson and it's hard to believe that back then every white person in

america was like, of course, he's guilty, and no jury could ever find him anything but guilty and they were shocked when they didn't. >> i was too. >> we were all shocked. i was too. black folks were all applauding. not because he was that that innocent but for once the black guy beat the system after the system beat black folks. 's the beginning of it. when it comes to the police, look, there's a never-ending excuse for what happened. for shooting a policeman, of course, we all cob dem that. there's no ifs, ands, or buts. i don't condone it, but i do understand it. >> you understand that guy. >> i understand the motivation, yes. how many videos can you see, how many years can go on when black people are brutally assaulted? the last one t guy was right on the ground and he put a slug in

him. >> try and explain that. >> i'm surprised somebody did not fire back sooner. >> what do you think are the motives? i think the motives differ in every case, but you're the guest tonight. what do you think causes all the tension? i see the issue, white police officer kills a black person apparently without justification. what is it? prejudice? >> i interviewed a policeman on my show. he said, when i worked in a black neighborhood, i hate auld black people. when i worked in latino community, i hated all latino people. when i worked in san diego, i hated all white people. there's something very wrong with the police culture. we're certainly not indicting all of the police. without police, that looks like that would be the purge. >> i was a capitol policeman for

a while. it was not dangerous work. we guarded the capitol building. one thing we learned is when you would stop a car, you never stand at the driver's seat. you always approach from the back door going in sideways. so policemen are basically worried when they stop anybody about who's in the car. that may explain some of it. >> it is a dangerous job. by the way, there are statistics how dangerous it. i don't think it is in the top ten. i think more cab drivers and fishermen are killed. it's not to say it's not a dangerous job. the frankness of when you feel near vus about your life, you can't just shoot. most cops, probably not.

but way too many, it gets on film a lot. >> that's what i want to ask about. when you see the guys running across the field 100 yards away and plugs him from behind, that's not self-defense or nervousness it's coward is. >> a >> are we missing anything? >> once you have him on the ground and you're wailing on him with batons, that cannot be justified. >> the choke hold guy with the loose cigarettes. >> this is a job you volunteered for. it says protect and serve on the side of the car. that's to protect us, not you. you have to understand, yeah, there's an element of danger in this job and you have to do that. by the way, i think most policemen like their job. yes, there's danger in it, but

there's also a lot of perks. >> donald trump tweeted, look what's happening in this country under the weak leadership of president obama and crooked hillary clinton. do you think the united states at times have an influence on these various situations? do you think the presidential leadership does anything to forestall this? >> i don't think the president can forestaal them but he's good about talking about them. there are lots of black folks on one side who say he doesn't do it enough. people like cornell west and eric dyson. >> i know. i hear from both of them. >> we know what the right wing thinks of him, perhaps he's an illegitimate president. >> i know why he's doing it. to be seen as someone who's an

overall leader and he doesn't want to become sectarian. >> it's an almost impossible position he's put himself in, but as much as the president can calm the nation, he's calm. for anybody who thinks donald trump is going to be good for your pocketbook, he's going to be anything but. he's walking volatility. they all pretend they don't like president obama and this and that, he's great for the stockmarket because he's calm. >> you know the old line f you want to live like a republican, vote for a democrat. >> i don't but that's great. >> donald trump calling himself the law and order candidate this week. let's watch him. >> too many americans are trapped in fear, violence, and poverty. we must maintain law and order at the highest level or we will cease to have a country.

100% we will cease to have a country. i am the law and order candidate. >> that's what nixon said in '68. >> i know. why do you think he's taking sides? >> actually crime has been down the last 20 years. that's not what it looks like in new york city. but when it leads, it leads. >> the crime is down. >> things are actually probably better and statistically they're shown to be be better but that's not how you lead folks. >> if you have kids living in upstate new york, you feel better. >> of course, i lived through

the '70s. mayor rudy giuliani says they're racist. they need to protect the american race. >> he really said that? >> yeah. >> republicans wonder why they don't get the votes of minorities when they say things like that. black lives matter is not racist. when we see them gunned down in the street, when they're not deserving on that, wasn't there some movement? >> to beg your point, newt gingrich who's on his best behavior said it's more dangerous to be black on the street not just because of police but crime on the street. both. what do you think he's up to? >> he's up to wanting to be vice president, but i don't think that's goej to happen.

many are appalled even though they're get behind him. what did they think was going to happen? they spent all these decades of race baiting, anti-intellectualism and conspiracy thees. and when donald trump arises, they're surprised about it? they shouldn't be. certainly they've followed that strategy before. we've never had anybody with this kind of temperament. if he became president it would just be government by snit every day. it would be about tweeting and getting even with people and. >> did you think this was an strange personal conspiracy that his mother went over to kenya to have her baby and she married an

african-american who was not going to be around for a long time and she gave him the name barack hussein obama and she did all this so he could be president 35 years -- >> of course not. this is why he sued me. >> it follows flew. >> i e noe it. if you are a race uft and you're looking for a political party, this is the obvious choice. >> this is the mouse trap at least. here, read this case. >> if you watch the republican debates they all follow the script, restror america, i want my country back. it's subtle but not that subtle. they talk about barack obama's

presidency like he wasn't even there. we've got to put merck back to worth. yes, did thaim that. it went up under obama like it went every president. >> my explanation for birtherism if there is one he wanted people to believe somehow you can put an asterisk of obama. when he showed the coloredk of pretties to lipped t little kids, they all look right. >> they don't like the idea of a black family eatling after the white house china. >> he really wasn't president. >> he really wasn't president. and, of course, they were hoping he would be a fillure so it

would. happen again. if it was not the attitude of most republicans and i'm sure they hated the fact that history will judge them. >> absolutely. bill maher h will be right badge more on bill maher after this. you're watching a special edition of "hardball. >> we must build a wall, a giant wall and battle the giant muslims. >> it makes graham look like van diesel. zblooirks

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have to report them, and if they don't report them, then there have to be consequences to them. >> withing back iwelcome back " does he have a point? i'm back with bill maher. what's the issue of language here? they seem to think they've got obama on the hook by not using the phrase "radical islamic terrorism." >> i think the question is can you defeat radical islamic terror, or the war on terror -- not a great term but for lack of a better term -- or can you reform it? you can't reform the religion if you can't talk about it, if you can can't be honest about it, if

you can't criticize it. any time somebody says islamic phobia, they give cover to the religious bullies who want to live in the 21st century as opposed to the many who want to live in the seventh century. donald trump's the opponent. when they elect a muslim may or of muslim, i said, that's a great thing. we need more of that. when muslims are mayors of london they have to speak out plainly and come out plainly for the values we all share, separation of church and state, equality for women, freedom of speech. these are not always rife in the muslim world. >> what about that? radical islamic terrorism. they say they don't want to use it for some murky reason.

you know what he's saying, that they're all on their side s what he's up to. >> i know what he's up to. i've been saying if for a long time. if there's an attack before the election, it will help donald trump. >> what are the odds of him right now, do you think here in july? >> i want to square people into coming out. >> how about out of ten? what are the odds? >> people say this to me all the time. can he win. yes, he can win. i want people to be very scared until november 8th. don't get complaisant. anything can happen in this country. people have dumb ideas. people say, we need to run this country like a businessman. as long as they believe that, anything is possible. and, again, a terror attack could hem them frmgts it's

always possible. be squared. be very scared. the zombies are in the mall. go out and voechlt don't say 2 out of ten it. it's five out of ten. >> okay. >> i don't think that, but i want to scare people. >> what do you think? one in ten? >> the thing is people abhor him and the thing is he's insanely racist and an abhorrent grease pit. >> back with "hardball." you're watching bill maher, a

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