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democrats kicking off their 2016 convention. republicans spent a week chanting lock her up and painting a dark ugly picture of america. the tone in philly will be different. it's a chance to reintroduce hillary clinton and her running mate tim kaine. to introduce him to a national audience. democrats will respond to a week of gop attacks with clinton and kaine already going after donald trump. >> when he says, as he did say, i alone can fix it, he's not ly wrong, he's dangerously wrong. >> when donald trump says he has your back, you better watch out.

from atlantic city to his so-called university he leaves a trail of broken promises and wrecked lives where ever he goes. >> a united front but there's real questions heading into the convention. will progressives rally behind senator kaine? will new details about how the dnc handled the primary process rekindle tensions with bernie sanders? will donald trump's ugly insults distract from the democrat's message? he's already tweeting. just saw crooked hillary and tim kaine together. isis and our other enemies drooling. they don't look presidential to me. but clinton is counting on a boost from a star studded line-up of democratic

heavyweights. let's start with casey hunt who has been with the clinton kaine event and is now inside the convention hall in philly. let me ask you this, is the clinton camp happy with the vp roll out so far? >> absolutely. they're thrilled with their roll out. there was a significant contrast they showed with the way donald trump picked and rolled out his running mate compared to how they did it. they wanted a button down process. they wanted to be methodical and cautious about it and that's what happened and at the event yesterday tim kaine showed he could be something other than boring. or a lot of people, even people that covered kaine for quite awhile in the room yesterday thought he put in a pretty good

performance. he talked about his own personal story and wove it together with attacks on donald trump. he and clinton seem to have good chemistry on stage. they did focus and you referred to this in tha introduction, they focused on kaine's record on guns and how he worked in the wake of the virginia tech shooting to try to implemented back groubd checks for example and kaine spoke about that. that's part of the push to make sure that they don't face too many questions about whether or not kaine is progressive enough for the base of this party. they do have issues in other areas. both upset some sanders reporters. >> we'll talk later in the show about him being in virginia and his standing on guns. kind of interesting.

thanks a lot. now let's go to kelly covering the trump campaign from philly. kelly, let me guess, trump's not going to lay low this week and let clinton get all the spotlight, will he? >> your instincts are right about that. this will not be the kind of go quitely into the night for a week and allow the ticket to have the spotlight after donald trump had his big show in cleveland. not going to do that. expect that donald trump and mike pence will be on the road. they will hit some of the big battleground states that will be so much of the turf war this contest will ultimately be decided so virginia, north carolina, florida, what we'll see is this will be a first real chance for rally sized crowds and voters beyond the delegates to get a look at this new partnership of trump and pence. so far we have seen mike pence, the indiana governor playing a

real second place role. now that's always part of the ticket but what we saw with hillary clinton and tim kaine was a lot more time for tim kaine. a lot more of them sharing the stage together. we have not had that yet with trump and pence so this will be a chance for them to go on the road. to bring some traditional cal pain skills to try to hit the battleground states which will be so pivotal and it will be a time when they will try to compete for attention with a democratic national convention that is more organized and planned than in cleveland. even though trump felt he had a big night. don't expect him to go quitely while hillary clinton gets her

moment and already trump is going for tim kaine saying mike pence is a better choice when it comes to job creation and tax cutting. reverend al? >> all right. well didn't think he would go quitely. thank you so much. joining me now is the democrat from california and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. a former dnc chairman. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having us. >> congresswoman, what's your reaction to tim kaine? is he progressive enough for you? >> i'm excited about tim kaine. i know him and i met him right after he was elected and i think he is a great choice. i'm impressed by his background. the fact that he spent many years fighting on behalf of low income communities and his

leadership as major of richmond. his connection to folks of color. it's a great choice and from from what i have seen it looks wonderful. >> you have been the chair of the party, you have been a governor, what's your reaction to this selection? >> he's a great choice. hillary clinton showed why so many of us love and respect her. she didn't take the easy way out politically. she knew that tim cain might raise some among some sanders voters but my message, knows everything about the military, terrorism, national security but the congresswoman is right. look at tim kaine's entirety. he could have made a lot of money practicing law and yet he took a in low income clients and

for 17 years he helped the most vulnerable citizens in richmond and the surrounding area so he was a great choice. we have to introduce him and then reintroduce hilary. that's the right choice of words that you used. she graduated from yale law school and could have gone to any law firm. and chose to work for the children's defense fund. hillary clinton made those choices to protect women and children all of her career. when she went to china as first lady and spoke about women's rights, she has the world behind her and the women of the world united behind this terrific leader. those are the things we have to put on display this week. >> congresswoman, let me go back

to you because they have personal stories and you have worked together. you are a trade issue and you have ties to wall street with kaine. will progressives rally around and turn out for tim kaine on the ticket? >> they will and at the end of the day people rally and turn out for the top of the ticket and not the vp but where progressives should celebrate and often times we don't recognize our victories but all of the input that they participated in in terms of the platform, clearly the stance on those issues there were many, many victories and i think that you will see that both hillary clinton as well as tim kaine are going to abide by that. >> you know, governor, the fact

is the national polls show hillary clinton ahead of trump and that's not counting the bump he may have gotten from the republican convention. so how big of a bump does clinton need to come out of this convention in philadelphia this week? >> it doesn't mean anything in november. the convention in atlanta with the great speech and came out to the neal diamond song coming to america and we left 17 points up and we got beat by 10 points so bumps are important and i think we'll get a good bump because we have a great array of speakers and when they realize what

hillary clinton has done in her life, the battle she has waged and the fight she has undertaken, their opinion of hilary will go through the roof but convention bumps are good but we have a long, tough difficult campaign and everybody who supports us has to make it a matter of faith to get out and vote. >> let's look to the flavor at the republican convention. there were vicious attacks on hillary clinton. lock her up. lucifer. i mean, how do democrats criticize trump without sinking to that level? >> i can't imagine. i think our convention is going

to be one of hope and one of future and one of promise. the picture they painted of america and the world was unrecognizable. it wasn't just that they painted her so badly. the way they went after communities of color in the united states. all of the coded language in trump's speech that went on forever. i think that many of the speakers, the way they dismissed problems that happened in our communities it was negative all around and i can't imagine us being like that at all. we do need to criticize trump and be clear about the threat he represents not just to the united states but to the planet and at the same time i believe we have a vision of the future that's going to be far more optimistic and far more positive than what republicans did. >> before we run out of time, i want to ask you this, donald trump on meet the press he

talked about banning muslims from the country and backed away from that a little at the convention but let me play for you something that he said about the idea of religious liberty. listen to this. >> just remember this, our constitution is great. but it doesn't necessarily give us the right to commit suicide, okay? we have a religious -- everybody wants to be protected and that's great and that's the wonderful part of our constitution. i view i differently. >> what's your response to that? >> it's shocking. it couldn't be even more clear that's there is no establishment of any religion in this country and no national religion and we're free to practice whatever religion we want and there's no

way to view it differently. one of the things we have to do is point out factually where donald trump is wrong and where he says he's going to defeat isis, didn't give one example of how. he says he's going to get rid of street crime but didn't tell the public that, in fact, it's h mayors and governors and local police can battle local street crime and not the government. his only answers are trust me and that's not good enough and you'll see hillary clinton in this convention put down answers to the problems that we face. >> congresswoman, a quick answer, isn't part of the challenge going to be turning out particularly with new voting laws in some states that we have never seen in a presidential election? >> absolutely but we're organizers and we will use those laws to help bring people together to show them the significance and importance of

their vote in this election. >> thank you both for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up, how clinton's running mate will shape the race ahead. we'll talk to a senator whose worked with kaine to take on the nra. plus, debunking donald trump's claim for being a law and order candidate is today's gotcha. plus a look at the obama-clinton relationship and why his speech this week could be crucial for her and for him. stay with us. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. to eveone th this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you.

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>> behind that smile, tim also has a backbone of steel. just ask the nra. over and over again he has had the courage to stand up to the gun lobby in their own backyard. >> there's one last part of hilary's plan that means a lot to me personally that kind of emotional for me and i bet it's emotional for you. how to stem the epidemic of gun violence that kills 33,000 americans every year. >> hillary clinton's pick of tim kaine as her running mate sent a clear message. fighting gun violence is a clear part of her campaign. he has an f rating from the nra. he's taking on the gun lobby in bill after bill.

even though the nra is headquatered in his home state of virginia. joining me is the democrat from connecticut. first senator, thank you for being here. >> thank you reverend al. >> you know, you worked on gun control bills with senator kaine. what's your reaction to the vp pick. >> he's a person of conviction and conscious. on this issue as on so many issues like racial and economic justice and reform and gun violence prevention and his willingness to stand up and speak out and even though in virginia it's a more difficult issue for them than in other states and i will never forget his speeches on the floor of the senate crystallizing this issue in saving lives and stopping

this epidemic and gun violence across the country whether it's urb urban or rural. he can be counted on to do the right thing. >> mrs. clinton is very outspoken around gun control as well herself. do you think this will be a major priority if we see a clinton-kaine white house? >> i'm convinced it will be a priority. there's common sense measures that respect the second amendment but involve background checks and ban on illegal trafficking and possibly also a ban on new sales of assault weapons. these common sense measures that also address domestic violence and the absolute shield of immunity that the gun manufacturers retailers have now will be a priority and hopefully

with a democratic majority the senate will stand a very good chance of making progress. but you know, about tim kaine, i sat with him on the armed services committee. both of us have sons in the military. we both wear the blue star on my lapel right now. he is committed to justice, racial justice, economic justice, military strength, fighting terrorist extremism and violence but at the sail time making sure that congress has the proper constitutional voice that it should by authorization military forces. so on progressive issues including gun violence he's going to be strong courageous steadfast voice including on women's right to choose and women's health care. >> now, let me go to donald trump. donald trump is pushing back on critics that all have been saying that his gop speech was

very dark and angry in his tone. take a look at his response. >> to me it was an optimistic speech. we're going to sell products. we're going to solve the problems. >> how will the dnc be different? will the democrats have a more optimistic view and projection this week? >> that was an optimistic speech. i hate to see donald trump on his dark days. the convention will be about building bridges. not walls. about making the economy work for everyone. creating jobs and economic growth. the hope and change that we can bring to this economy by making it more inclusive and i think it's going to be very exciting to see how we embrace diversity and after all, diversity is one

of our nation's great strengths. one of the reasons we're the greatest nation in the history of the world. i'm looking forward to a convention that talks about hope and change and making the economy work for everyone and creating jobs that's fundamentally at the core of the anger and angst we see underlying the trump appeal. so this convention really should be thrilling, i think, for people that want to change america and move us forward. >> senator, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you reverend al. >> still ahead, why electing hillary clinton could be a key part of the obama legacy. but first, turns out facts don't support donald trump's claims about policing and crime in america.

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order to our country. >> believe me. >> but of course the facts undercut trumps premise. crime in america is lower now than it was when president obama took office. and police officers are safer under president obama than they have been in decades. on friday, the president himself did some fact checking on trump's speech. >> some of the fears that were expressed throughout the week just don't jive with the facts. when it comes to crime, the violent crime rate in america has been lower during my presidency than any time in the last three or four decades.

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him. politico reports that the president has been talking about how a clinton presidency could help create a 16 year era of progressive rule. extending and protecting his achievements. that's why he has been taking aim at donald trump in the weeks and months leading up to the convention. >> you hear language that singles out immigrants. and suggests entire religious communities are complicit in violence. that's not the america we want. it doesn't reflect our democratic ideals. >> this is not intertabmeentert. this is not a reality show. >> the president has been tough on trump's policy and personality. >> we're shocked that somebody could be loose with the facts.

or distort someone's record. shocked. you know, how can you be shocked? this is the guy, remember, who was sure that i was born in kenya. >> joining me now is former national press secretary for the obama campaign. ben, what's the president's goal? let me be candid, what's the goal in this speech this week, does he make the case for clinton or the case against trump? >> i think he does a little bit of both. he is uniquely positioned to make the affirmative case for hillary clinton because he's the highest profile confer. i worked on the 2008 primary campaign.

it was contentious but throughout that process you gained nothing but respect for hillary clinton. shortly after that the president was reading about the rivals within abraham clinton's cabinet and recruited hillary clinton to rve side by side with hill and she did an incredible job restoring our alliances around the world. he saw her intellect, her toughness, her steadiness and the qualities we need in a commander and chief and we'll hear him make that case this week. >> now, if you recall in 2012, president obama got a big lift from a former period president clinton's speech. here's what president ball balm said about it afterwards. >> after he spoke, somebody sent out a tweet. they said, you should appoint him secretary of explaining stuff. i like that. president clinton who made the

case as only he can. >> is president obama going to return the favor this week to mrs. clinton? >> i think he will. particularly after the republican convention last week. we heard this doom and gloom vision about how the country was going off into an abyss when we have seen so much unprecedented private sector job growth. we have seen growth in wages and expanded access to affordable health care. these are the sort of things on the line in this election with hillary clinton versus donald trump and the fact is that we make a contrast about what we can go back to. the sorts of economic policies that donald trump is advocating for are the trickle down economic policies that ended up causing the financial crisis in the first place. so i think that the president will explain that contrast and raise the stakes about what's on the line this week. >> how important is the election

of mrs. clinton to the obama legacy? how important is that to him and his place in history and the continuation of some of the things that he achieved in 8 years in office? >> well it's all on the line. if you look at the record, donald trump would repeal the affordable care act. he would end holding wall street accountable and repeal dodd frank. he would get rid o the iran deal that would prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon. so issue by issue that's on the line but the president thinks that who we are as a country is on the line. if you looked at the convention last week with each speaker that got on the stage, another group of americans would get blamed for the country faces. i think the president would layout what this he election means within the course of american history and who we are

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a good speech can launch your political career, a bad one can sink it. and some of the most memorable lines in u.s. political history have been delivered at the democratic convention. >> the new frontier of which i speak is not a set of promises. it is a set of challenges. >> the cause endures. the hope still lives. >> i still believe in a place called hope. >> i'm john kerry and i'm reporting for duty. >> there is not a liberal america and a conservative america. there is the united states of america. >> let's bring them back. ben let me go to you.

for the high profile speakers at the dnc what's a key to a good speech in your judgment? >> let's take a look at the 2004 convention speech that barrack obama gave as a state senator and laufshlged his career. the best thing you can do is layout an affirmative division for the country. that's what the president did and people still refer back to that speech and the contrast with the type of speech that donald trump gave was ripping slogans off from ronald reagan and we didn't hear a shining city on a hill speech and we didn't hear how he accomplished what he was going to do or inspired you about where the country was headed so i think for clinton to deliver this week, that's what people will be looking for. >> let me go and donald trump's speech was dark and pessimistic

and let me show a piece of that. >> our convention occurs at a moment of crisis for our nation. a violence in our streets. and the chaos in our communities. and destructive terrorism and weakness. >> not exactly shining city on a hill. but does clinton and other speakers need to give maria a more optimistic? a more hopeful speech this weekend? >> i think i goes back to what the president just said when he was having a conversation with the president of mexico. what trump did basically, his message does not jive with the facts. this idea that the country is in complete chaos is not true. what folks are looking for and they want to be inspired and see what the future holds and what that future holds for themselves

and for their country and community and their children but i think that they start looking at their slate. and you are talking about demi lovato and folks that know how to bring the folks up. i don't know if you had a recent conversation with him but he is one of the most elegant speakers that only have a vision and wants to double down on it and to accept her nomination on thursday is not only incredibly inspiring and people aware of how to govern what needs to happen on the ground floor and has a vision that people want to fulfill. that was not only a disservice to the country but at the end of the day you want someone that feels they're going to be working collectively with the american people and collectively with their democratics.

>> and then another real question this week is former president bill clinton. what type of speech does he have to give where he makes a point but at the same time not overshadow his wife? >> he has a chance. >> he has to speak in personal terms about her and reintroduce her to the country and there's in part of her biography that americans aren't familiar with and he has a chance to introduce her values. why she chose after law school to go work for the children's defense fund. her midwestern values. that's a unique opportunity for him. i also think that americans pine for the peace and prosperity of the 90s and he has a chance to walk through some of the decisions that he made as president. this will not only be an expansion beyond president obama's legacy if hillary clinton is elected but president

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hillary clinton's running mate tim kaine showing off his spanish skills at a rally in miami. you can bet that diversity and inclusiveness will be a key theme at the dnc this week. a recent nbc news poll shows clinton winning the latino vote by a landslide. 76 to 14%. trump also loses big among african americans. where he gets just 7% of the

vote. wasn't kaine's use of spanish a direct critique of the antiimmigrant language we heard last week. >> what he was doing was saying we recognize your heritage but we also recognize more importantly that you're american and that was refreshing. after saying they were going to build the wall, tear up families and deport everybody. kaine was refreshing but also very clear. he recognized what latino's care about. he said faith, family and good work and hard work and he was recognizing the sacrifices that folks have done to be good americans. that makes him unique and also understand the fundamentals of what makes the american latino community click. not talking about issues that the community cares about. he's going to talk about his own personal experience as a missionary in honduras and

governing he did in virginia. he was able to deliver virginia not once but twice and the latino community and the influence of latinos and asian americans is a force to be reckoned with and he learn houd to cultivate both of those constituent sys. >> at the rnc this week donald trump used the language of us against them when dealing with the immigration issue. watch this. >> they are being released by the tens of thousands into our communities. i only want to admit individuals into our country who will support our values and love our people. hillary clinton is proposing mass amnesty. mass immigration and mass lawlessness. her plan will overwhelm your

schools and further reduce your jobs and wages. i am your voice. >> they are being released. support our lues. our people. overwhelm your schools and hospitals. i mean, what do you make of this us versus them kind of speaking? >> what donald trump is doing is stirring the pot and i keep saying that he can go back on his jet but communities have to live with each other and he is playing not only with dangerous fire but dividing americans. i have never seen a president that basically says that the enemy is each other. that's not only not presidential but it's un-american. my concern is that not only are people going to take these liberties and unload and say that bigotry is okay but this is why i think that the message of tim kaine and hillary clinton

are not only optimistic but each american needs each other in order for us to move forward. >> thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> that does it for me this hour. thanks for watching. next stop for me, philadelphia. watch msnbc all week for full coverage of the democratic national convention. i'll see you back here next sunday. anyone with type 2 diabetes knows how it feels to see your numbers go up,

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