chicago's historic jackson park. the park was one of two options on the city's south side that was being considered. a formal announcement is expected next week. the library expected to be look, we democrats have had plenty of differences with the republican party. but what we heard in cleveland last week wasn't particularly republican. and it sure wasn't conservative. >> trump says he wants the run the nation like he's running his business. god help us. >> he doesn't have a clue about the middle class. actually he has no clue period. >> truth be told, the richest thing about donald trump is his hypocrisy. >> and tonight i ask you to do for hillary clinton what you did

for me. i asked you to carry her the same way you carried me. >> everybody knows she's smart. everybody knows she's tough. >> and that's why i can say with confidence there has never been a man or a woman, not me, not bill, nobody more qualified than hillary clinton to serve as president of the united states of america. >> and good morning. it is thursday, july 28. we're live again in philadelphia on the fourth and final day of the democratic national convention. along with joe, me and willie in a very loud pub, we have the managing editors of bloomberg politics and co-hosts, mark halperin and john hallman and senior political editor and

white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. you're here. show your id. >> willie, that was a heck of a night last night. a heck of a night, right? >> i'm stopping it. >> philadelphia had dog tracks as good as the one we went to last night. >> how could you have a problem with what happened last night. >> i heard that the convention went well too. >> the off track betting was good. >> man, one store after another store after another store. last night was like murderer's row. >> when joe biden is pushed all the way up to 9:00 when he's not speak in the primetime hour. the president's speech was incredibly uplifting, a defense of his legacy. here's where we were, here's where we are today. made a case that hillary clinton

is an extension of the obama years. how qualified she is, what she did in the situation room. a two-piece speech. >> let's start with the president's speech delivered 12 years to the day since he first arrived on the national political scene with his 2004 speech to the democratic convention. last night he sought to contrast the vision he shares with hillary clinton against the one donald trump laid out one week earlier. >> look, we democrats have had plenty of differences with the republican party. and there's nothing wrong with that. it's precisely this contest of idea that pushes or country forward. but what we heard in cleveland last week wasn't particularly republican. and it sure wasn't conservative. what we heard was a deeply pessimistic vision and that is not the america that i know. and most of all i see americans of every party, every background, every faith who

believe that we are stronger together. black, white, latino, asian, native american, young, old, gay, straight, men, women, folks with disabilities all pledging allegiance around the same proud flag to this big bold country that we love. that's what i see. that's the america i know. after all these years, she has never forgotten just who she's fighting for. but hillary has been in the room. she's been part of those decisions. she knows what's at stake in the decisions our government makes. what's at stake for the working family. for the senior citizen. for the small business owner. for the soldier. for the veteran. >> that is the hillary i know. that's the hillary i've come to o admire and that's why i can say with confidence there has never

been a man or a woman, not me, not bill, nobody more qualified than hillary clinton to serve as president of the united states of america. time and again you've picked me up, and i hope sometimes i picked you up too. and tonight i ask you to do for hillary clinton what you did for me. i ask you to carry her the same way you carried me. america, you've vindicated that hope these past eight here's and now i'm ready to pass the pa on the and to my part as a private citizen. so this year in this election i'm asking you join me to reject cynicism and reject fear and to summon what is best in us to elect hillary clinton as the next president of the united

states. and show the world we still believe in the promise of this great nation. >> the president capped his speech by literally embracing hillary clinton on stage. the night went on from there. but my goodness, quite a speech for sure. >> quite a speech. did the president do what was required for hillary clinton last night in. >> yeah, i think he did. look, we've seen four nights of the republican convention and three of the democratic convention. the president demonstrated that he is right now. put aside what you think of him substantively, he's the best political performer in the country. he dropped the mike in a pretty dramatic way. his attacks were relatively restrained. he did not spend a lot of time attacking donald trump. but the restraint that she showed made the attack stronger. that line, he's the most qualified person to run for the

presiden presidency, many people disagree with that but you couldn't ask for a more heartfelt ore declarative endorsement than he gave her. >> if organizing conventions and running conventions well count for anything, the democrats have once again lapped the republicans. >> literally, 50 times. >> they did it four years ago, they're doing it again this year. last night there were more a-list political stars speaking in one night. >> in a unified message. >> than the republicans had all week last week. >> antonio sab to jr., come on. >> if you're a swing voter and you tuned into both conventions, there's no comparison between the two weeks. >> democrats had along time to plan this. you've got democratic operatives who have done this before and had a lot of precision and a lot of cooperation.

after they got past the conflicts with bernie sanders, you saw last night the two big families on the democraticside, obamas and the clintons. they were fused as one. barack obama needs her to win for his legacy. she needs his help for her to win. the hug was symbolic and figure tif. their fates are intwined until november. >> the third night of the republican convention was defined by booing of ted cruz. >> third night. >> and now we have the president and his defining speech here. i was struck, i have to say, by a how overt everyone was trying to reach out to republicans last night. it wasn't just inviting michael bloomberg on the stage. it was tim kaine referencing the politics of his father-in-law. it was obama referencing reagan saying that's not conservative. >> absolutely. >> and there was something quietly conservative about his

speech where he said we don't want to be ruled by one person. he can do this on our own. >> krig shirley wrote me last night in an e-mail and said what does it say when barack obama quotes ronlds reagan more than the republican nominee. and i also thought -- take about five paragraphs out of that obama speech and it could have been a reagan speech. trust me, i know. it was about optimism. it was about believing that america's greatest days truly did lie ahead. and there was a great line that reached out to a lot of disaffected republicans who may never vote for hillary clinton but it got them thinking. that was the line when he said basically that convention last week, what i heard out that convention wasn't republican. and it surely wasn't conservative. >> on the reagan point, i agree with you guys. i was so struck by the fact that he thought donald trump is so

vulnerable and the republicans are in such a mess right now that he can own the mantle of ronald reagan, the optimism, the city on a hill, h the reagan line whereas donald trump called our country a divided crime scene. that's not what america is he. he talked about engineers, all of the great things that america does in the future. >> there seemed to be an appeal in a number of the speeches for people out there who don't seem like either party's platform is for you, it's okay. look at the choice out there and come this way for now. that choice some republicans are making. i've heard that a lot from republican friends. last night wikileaks posted 14 minutes of audio of what it claims for leaked voice mail messages. meanwhile yesterday donald trump batted back accusations that his campaign is being assisted by

the russian government. he dismissed analysis that points to their involvement in breaking into the democratic national committee's e-mail. the suggesting that if they did, they should go a step further. >> it's just a total deflection, this whole thing with russia. by the way, they hacked. they probably have her 33,000 e-mails. i hope they do. they probably have her 33,000 e-mails that she lost and deleted because you'd see some beauties there. but i watched this guy and he talked about, we think it was russia that hack. and then he said could be trump. yeah, yeah. trump. trump. it is so farfetched, so ridiculous. honestly i wish i had that power. i'd love to have that power. but russia has no respect for her country and that's why -- the if it is russia. nobody knows. it's probably china. but it would be interesting to see, i will tell you this. russia if you're listening, i

hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. let's see if that happens. that will be next. >> do you have any qualms about asking a foreign government to interfere, to hack into a system of anybody's in this country. >> that's up to the president. >> does that not give you pause. >> gives me no pause. >> to have a foreign government -- >> you know what gives mess more pause? that a person in your government, crooked hillary clinton, hear's -- be quiet. i know you want to save her. that a person in our government, katie, would delete or get rid of 33,000 e-mail. that gives me a big problem. if russia or china or any other country has those e-mails, i'd love to see them.

>> that's the republican nominee. >> reaction to trump's statement on russia yesterday drew harsh criticism from opponents and disagreements even from allies. house speaker paul ryan released a statement, russia is a global menace led by a devious thug. putin should stay out this election. and michael hayden say, quote, if he's talking about the state department e-mails on her server, he is inviting a foreign intelligence service to steal sensitive american government information. if he's talking about the allegedly private e-mails that she destroyed, he is inviting a foreign intelligence service to violate the privacy of an individual protected by the fourth amendment to the american constitution. >> and later in the night national security figures criticized him from the democratic conventions podium. >> donald trump calls himself the law and order candidate.

but he will violate international law. this morning, this very morning he personally invited russia to hack us. that's not law and order. that's criminal intent. >> donald trump today once again took russia's side. he asked the russian's to interview in american politics. think about that. as someone who was responsible for protecting our nation from cyberattacks, it is inconceivable to me that any presidential candidate would be that irresponsible. >> first of all, a footnote, it is inconceivable that democrats in that audience would be booing leon panetta and breaking up his

speech with no more war while he was trying to go after donald trump on foreign policy. the insanity. as i tweeted last night, it's good to know that the gop does not have a monopoly on stupidity. last night when they did to the admiral and what they did to leon panetta i thought was disgraceful. let's talk about what panetta and the admiral were talking about, what general hayden and paul ryan have been talking about. this is donald trump's m.o. he says something outrageous, something bizarre, something dangerous and he grabs the headlines. i noted last night, i went to check and wrote a brief post about it last night for the "washington post" that when you had these top democratic speakers on stage, six of the "washington posts" top seven stories that night were about donald trump's invitation to russia. and you know the funny thing is,

people have been saying, why do you pay attention to trump? why do you always allow him to grab headlines. when you have a major party candidate inviting our enemies to hack in to the state department system, i think that's a news story. >> well it led the evening news last night. trump is great at grabbing headlines. we know his campaign thought what he said was a mistake. both mike pence and his spokesman reputed what he said. forget the warm things, forget his cute thing, we need better relations with russia. >> but vladimir putin, or at least russia may be funding his business empire. we will never know because paul manford said he's not relesioning his records. so the question hangs over his

head by his own doing. what. >> what he did yesterday was way too cute. i think he's making a substantive mistake and a political mistake. >> i don't think it's really -- i'll go a little further on this one thing. yesterday we talked about the question of putin interfering in an american election, does tuten have connections, what's the story here. you joe said there's smoke. >> a lot of smoke. >> so yesterday trump gives a press conference to address this issue. most political figures i know would see the smoke, walk up with a water can and pour it on top of the smoke to put the smoke out. denounce putin, decry, disclaim. instead pours gasoline all over the fire. basically everything he did yesterday only raises the questions more. the questions of what is his connection to putin. is he really more on russia's side. every political question that

was damaging and was out there, he exacerbated rather than -- >> and even on policy, even on cry cry mireille, we'll look into that. >> i don't think you can rift with our security. >> no. that's the problem. that's what should give people some pause. this is not a well thought out plan. he loves getting headlines. we're actually talking about him this morning. but the dangers of inviting a foreign country into our elections, there's something dangerous about a presidential candidate doing these things that come to his head. >> we'll button this up with your column in the "washington post" that you posted last night entitled donald trump takes us

all for a ride again. on a day when the democratic national committee scheduled a last list of all-star speakers, the post's top seven stories focused on the republican nominee. six of the seven headlines centered on trump's bizarre and disturbing invitation for russian criminal to break into hillary clinton's e-mail accounts. at least richard nixon's men had the good taste to break into watergate under the cover of night. under the brightest of lights. the chaos subsequently created seems to focus on little more than dominating the next news cycle at any cost. tonight this one trick pony has taken us all for a ride again. >> willie, at the end of the day, it's about -- >> just getting on. >> spell the name right. it's p.t. barnum. any press is good press. just spell the name right. >> the problem is this is a very

serious job. being president of the united states. he's very casual about that. he's angry coming into that press conference. angry with the press for people pushing this idea that he was linked to russia. he was angry about that. and i think as sam said, it was a throwaway moment. he was a performer and said i'm going to look to camera and talk to russia without thinking it through. i think everything he does is sort of ad lib but now it has real consequences. if you want to be president of the united states you can't say stuff like that. >> he was just rifting. >> you think he was joking? >> but there is a much bigger question regard russia. why has he continually bent over backwards in support of russia? why did he come on this show and say that he had respect for putin as a leader even after we talked about his assassinating journalists and politicians and political opponents and why did

he say well, we kill people here in the united states too. at least he's a leader. >> those were his words. >> there is something there with -- there is a russian connection there. what is it? >> that's why this can't be taken as a throw away line. it comes in the context of all of the other things. i think the cry mia question was a case where he didn't know the issue. >> and he thought tim kaine was the governor of new jersey, right? that happened. >> tom kaine was a great guy. he's opening the door and you saw that on display and you will again tonight to the democrats saying we're the national security party. >> oh my gosh. here we go. >> who will favor russia over american interests and american ally's interests and that is a door that hillary clinton is delighted to walk through. it's clearly in the end -- we talked yesterday about jesse ventura and arnold schwarzenegger.

he through the throwaway lines yesterday on russia has opened the door perfect timing for the democrats in the midst convention. >> with russia trying to interfere in the presidential election and the collusion of donald trump with vladimir putin, rather than shutting it down, he asked russia to interfere more in the american election. that's what happened yesterday. it's insane. >> all right. on that night ahead on "morning joe, congressman keith ellison and governor gina roman do, you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. >> call on putin to stay out of this election. >> i'm not going to tell putin what to do. why should i tell putin what to do. he already did something today

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all right. 25 past the hour. we're still talking about this. the trump campaign also turned it up, renewed politics. >> mr. trump has said that his taxes are under audit and he will not be releasing them is nothing to do with russia, nothing to do with any country other than the united states. and his normal tax auditing processes. >> i'll release them when the audit is completed. nobody would release when it's under -- i've had audits for 15 or 16 years. under audit. when the audit is complete i'll release them. but i will tell you right now, zero. i have nothing to do with russia. >> all right.

so -- >> didn't he do a pageant there? >> he's not going to release his documents. >> i asked him about it on friday and he'll be happy to do it after the audits are done. we've been through this with him. he could release it. >> but paul manafort so no he's not going to do it. >> it's ridiculous and we've tried to put pressure on him. we can't pry the audits out of his hands. but i think to the extent that the press can make this an issue for him for the purpose of not of his partisan but because of the tradition. we could continue to try every time we sit in front of him make it clear to him that it's not okay that he violate what has become a norm in american elections over the past 30 or 40 years. >> the clinton campaign told us they plan to make a fuel court tresz on this. >> harry reid did put pressure on myth romney suggesting that

he had never paid taxes. that was a turning point. eventually romney released one year. the problem with trump is i don't think he feels that sense of shame. there's nothing that anyone can say that will make trump change his tune on this. i agree with john. this is no a matter of politics. effort someone interviews donald trump, that's a question they should ask. >> if he says he had zero business relationship with with russia, and he held a multimilli multimillion dollar event there -- >> we know he has a connection. >> he says to the country, trust me, there's nothing there. he said yesterday, here's the extent of my dealings with russia in business. i bought a condo in palm beach, a house in palm beach for $40 million. i sold tight a russian guy for $100 million. that was the business extent.

some may buy my properties but i'm not nervous there hinvested >> again the questions continue to be raised. as we were going to break there was a question asked in the audience about russia and what was his -- oh, do you ask vladimir putin to stay out of the election? and he goes, i'm not going to tell him to stay out of the election. why should i tell him to do anything. that would be a basic thing to tell him. >> so easy, come on. >> do you call on vladimir put on the stay out of his election in? only one way to answer that question. >> what is it? >> da. >> we'll revisit this. >> it was bizarre that mike pence actually put out a statement -- >> oh. >> -- condemn in a sense of what trump had said, a backtrack and then trump back out immediately after that and basically doubled down. >> yeah. >> went back.

so now you have a vice presidential candidate who is going out to try to clean up what the presidential candidate says who then goes out and steps on what the vice presidential candidate said. >> it was revealed that the democratic national committee heavily favoreds hillary clinton during the campaign with bernie sanders. which would be a great issue for them to continue talking on. >> you're right. absolutely right. last night vice president joe biden got the crowd at the convention fired up taking on what may be donald trump's most famous phrase. >> his sincynicism is unbounded. his lack of empathy and compassion can be summed up by you're fired. i'm not joking. think about that. think about that.

think about everything you learned as a child. no matter where you were raised. how can there be pleasure in saying you're fired. he's trying to tell us he cares about the middle class. give me a break. that's a bunch of malarkey. this guy doesn't have a clue about the middle class, not a clue. he has no clue about what makes america great. actually he has no clue period. you got it. no major party nominee in the history of this nation has ever known less or has been less prepared to deal with our national security. we cannot elect a man who exploits our fears of isis and

other terrorists, who has no plan whatsoever to make us safer. a man who embraces the tactics of our enemies, torture, religious intolerance. we cannot elect a man who belittles our closest allies while embracing dictators like vladimir putin. i mean it. a man who seeks to sow addition in america for his own gain and disorder around the world. a man who confusing bluster with strength, we simply cannot let that happen as americans. period. >> so -- >> he was good. >> so the democrats i thought politically had a great night, did a lot of things exactly right. but i saw just looking at this from 30,000 feet, willie, i saw an article in the "the new york

times" last night breaking up the electoral map. and while we're sitting here talking about vladimir putin and while we're sitting here talking about all of the things that the democrats did, donald trump is out campaigning, regardless of what he's saying in press conferences. >> big event yesterday. >> he's packing houses in scanton and man they were -- >> they were there. >> they were crazy for donald trump in scranton. and you start looking at the electoral map and the "the new york times" yesterday, nate cohn at the times put up a map that he and somebody else could be a likely 269-269 tie. and you start looking at the swing state polls and even without pennsylvania, trump has a way forward to win this thing. >> despite everything we heard last night and everything we've been saying here today, it's a very close race. and the large majority of the country thinks we're on the wrong track and that's where

donald trump steps in. this is a good night, a good week before the democrats, no question about it. but there's a healthy portion of the country that cease still very concerned and scared and they see the news every day, and the world spinning out of control as donald trump would say and they still tilt toward him. what he saw last night and this week was democrats raising the stakes saying this isn't a game anymore. this isn't the primary. this isn't funny. this is an existential threat. >> people have said that about donald trump throughout the entire process. does it connect in the general election? and i don't know if you see the nate cohn piece yesterday, but you go state by state by state by state. they are all swing states. iowa, a swing state now, pennsylvania very much in play. how is it looking?

r r rendale said if the election was held today we democrats would with in trouble. >> part of the effects of the convention of three days is they've done a good job of fogging up and making people forget that hillary clinton is a vulnerable candidate. democrats are saying thank goodness we're running against donald trump because our candidate would lose next to a more serious traditional candidate. and we talked about this yesterday. democrats have been running lots of television ads against donald trump. they have not knocked him out. he's in the game. >> wow. okay. coming up, it was also tim kaine's night, accepting his party's nomination. twitter had a field day with his dad jokes and we'll hear his best trump impression. how was it? >> over and over and over again. >> "morning joe" live in philadelphia. back in a moment. (lionel) ♪it's peyton...

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trump is a guy who promises a lot but you might have noticed, he's got a way of

saying the same two words every time he makes his biggest, hugest promises. believe me. it's going to be great. believe me. we're going to build a wall and make mexico pay for it. believe me. we're going to destroy isis so fast, believe me. there's nothing suspicious in his tax returns, believe me. >> see, i just think he should stick to -- >> that's actually the worst bernie sanders impression i've ever seen in my life. >> he should stick to what he is which is a really nice guy. >> he was a great guy. he was getting savaged last night on twitter. i'm sorry i'm a tim kaine kind of guy. >> i am too. he's the best. >> he's a throwback to the politicians that we had in the south for a very long time. >> i wish they would stop making him be the attack dog. that's not what he does.

>> an avalanche of bad dad jokes last night on twitter. saying, i can't relate to the speech because my dad doesn't tell bad jokes. >> it was like tim kaine is the guy who brings the orange slices to your soccer game, make sure everyone has one. >> tim kaine will turn the car around if you don't shut up. >> tim kaine is the guy what that comes up to you after graduating from college, buys you five shares of a stock and says good luck, kiddo. here we go. tim kaine is not afraid -- >> turn the car around. >> it was merciless, uncomfortable. obviously he's speaking to an audience that's far different than us. no one knows who she is. >> everyone felts tels the same you do. >> i will be completely alone here. i thought that was great. i thought the fact that he may

have been a little awkward telling his jokes may have ban little rough around the edges, may not have been as smooth as everybody wants to be. you saw the goodness in that man. i disagreed with him on a lot of politics but he's a good man. he had the decency to be uncomfortable and a little awkward on the national stage. >> he's glot to work on his trump impression rnls he's got an incredible story. i knew he was going to get savaged by all of us. >> cynical media types. >> a lot of people from pensacola, florida to peoria all the way out west that said he's a pretty decent guy. that's the guy i go to church with every week. >> that was the real tim kaine. you can't ask the guy to be anybody but what he is. hillary clinton is delighted with her pick.

the pence/kaine debate will be the lowest of all time. >> who do you think would have played better in central pennsylvania, elizabeth warren or tim kaine in that speech last night. >> the tim kaine. >> and it's not even close. >> all of the criticism was style style lis tick. >> i have to ad mire a guy that steps to the podium and does this. up next, donald trump is out early this morning already commenting on the firestorm over his russia comments. going to play that new sound for you coming up on "morning joe."

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his client, his person deleted 33,000 e-mails illegally. you look at that. and when i'm being sarcastic with something, first of all -- >> you're being sarcastic. >> of course i'm being sarcastic. the real problem is what was said on those e-mails from the democratic national committee. you take a look at what was said, it's disgraceful. they talk about religion, talk about race, all sorts of things including women. what they said on the e-mails was a disgrace. >> when you look at vladimir putin, you said he's a great leader of his country. >> i said he's a better leader than obama. i said he's a better leader than obama because obama is not a leader he's certainly doing a better job that obama is. that is all. >> doing a better job that obama is. that's breathtaking. mall halprin, it's not just

about the 33,000 e-mails. was he also joking looking into crimea and recognizing the invasion of crimea and sanctionisanction ing him? was he joking when he said he would ask vladimir put on the stay out of this election and he refused to do that? >> he left cleveland with his party as united as he could have hoped for under the circumstances. and these statements -- >> what can paul ryan do. >> mike pence doesn't seem to like what he's saying. he was trying to turn the attention back to the party. the question is will he listen, will he change. that interview suggests he won't. >> paul manafort has got to be thinking, don't shine the bright light our direction any more than it is because i have been

seen as an ally of russia because of what i did in ukraine. >> both in terms of the specifics of this data breach and more broadly, the questions will linger and persist. >> he won't. >> he said, though, john, that a man who assassinates journalists -- >> i know. >> assassinates political leaders. >> this is my point. >> that get in his way is a better leader than barack obama. hey, i didn't like the affordable care act either. but guess what, he didn't shoot people at the "washington post" or the "the new york times." that statement in and of itself is to beyond the pale, it is disqualifying. at this moment in time if you are a conservative republican. if you are a liberal democrat. if you are an american. he needs to backtrack. >> joining us now in philadelphia, washington post order ed o'keefe.

there is that. there is that. >> there is that. >> ed, we're not going to get that. so my bigger question, and what i think is kind of interesting, is how do people like paul ryan and his vice presidential running meat pence actually stand by donald trump when he uses these words. and i think we ought to hold them accountable as well. are they members of this party? do they want to win? >> ryan is being consistent. >> consistently hit critical and a sellout. >> when i endorse trump, i will call him out when i disagree with him. immediately yesterday he did that. >> how far did he go? did he revoke his endorsement? >> through a spokesman. >> that's fantastic. >> paul ryan says yes, that statement trump made was the epitome of racism but i still

support him. >> what i found interesting with the chairman of the house intelligence committee last night told our friend robert costa sarcasm, this is sarcasm or sarcastic. >> joe, we're friends with paul. i like paul ryan. i'm being tough because i believe in paul ryan. i don't think he's doing the right thing right now and i don't think he's doing something that's really true to his brand. >> i think they're blowing themselves up. >> i think that's what they're doing. >> mike pence has to stand by while donald trump says that vladimir putin, vladimir putin is a better leader than the president of the united states. where does mike pence go four years from now explaining these statements away? where does paul ryan go? >> how about today. >> where does he go four months from now when he's still speaker. how does he justify that?

you talk to house democratic leaders who were here this week, none of them are suggesting they're going to take back the house. they understand they're going to get closer. that's part of the calculation of the republican leaders. they don't see evidence right now that they're going to lose control of that chamber. they may in the senate. and it's looking likely. but i just think that's part of it. they're not scared. >> that's a shame. >> it's morally wrong to not denounce putin. but where is the constituency for this. there are some people saying president obama is weak. there's a constituency there. where are the pro-putin voters in america? soccer moms? >> if he said to jump often the washington bridge would you do it? come on. >> you have to go deep in the tabs. >> read the cross tab to find the putin vote. >> stop. we have to go. >> that is definitely not putin country. >> they're making the mistake to think people are thinking about

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the donald is not really a plans guy. he's not really a facts guy either. he calls himself a business guy, which is true, but i have to say i know plenty of businessmen and women who have achieved remarkable success without leaving a stral of lawsuits and unpaid workers and people feeling like they got cheated. does anyone really believe that a guy who spent his 70 years on this earth showing no regard for working people is suddenly going to be your champion? your voice? >> welcome back to "morning joe." the final day of the democratic national convention. hillary clinton accepts the nomination tonight. with us onset in philadelphia, managing eds tore of bloomberg

politics and cohost mark halperin, former treasury official steve rat near and nbc news political director and host of mtp daily chuck yeager todd. shall we get right to it? >> i want to really quickly off of that bump -- yesterday, joe biden was here and he was talking about donald trump doesn't care about the working man and he doesn't care about this and that. and i asked him the question, i understand what you're saying. why is it that white working class voters are flocking to donald trump in record numbers? >> massive amounts in scranton yesterday. >> barack obama in that speech last night nlts and he admitted that democrats haven't done a good job with working class people. barack obama talks about donald trump is not the guy that's going to protect workers. he doesn't care about workers. don't tell that to white working class voters.

why is there this disconnect that the democrats think he's going to be so bad for white working class voters yet they're flocking to him in record numbers? >> why? if you feel as if the system hasn't been treating you well, why would you go with the same people running that same system? i mean to me it's pretty logical that these voters are sitting there going, okay, you're telling me all of this, but that doesn't do me any good. what have you done for me. globalization hasn't been good for me. why should the same people in charge tell me it's going to be better. that's what is trump's strongest argument. >> and steve radner, somebody who has seen their personal finances actually get worse over the past eight years, barack obama is not the best messenger for them. >> but what makes trump a better one? >> how frustrating is it for hillary clinton's campaign that so many white working class

voters who used to line up traditionally for democrats are now abandoning them and how do democrats get them back? >> it's somewhat frustrating. and certainly what's frustrating is to have a candidate on the other side who basically can say all kinds of stuff, like we should go into a trade war with china, as if that's going to somehow make things better. because she's trying a take a responsible approach. but what you saw last night and what you'll see in the campaign is a continuing strategy to continue to chip away at it, continue to emphasize that trump's solutions don't work, there's progress made under obama, not enough but some. and i think you keep pounding away at it. >> here's him making the case. president obama capped nearly eight years in office by defending his term and to use his words, passing the baton to hillary clinton. but what's more, he invokes the language of ronald reagan to contrast their vision with that of the republican nominee donald

trump. >> donald trump calls our military a disaster. he suggests america is weak. he must not hear the billions of men and women and children from the baltics to burma who look for america to be the light of freedom and dignity. america is already great. america is already strong. and i promise you our strength, our greatness does not depend on donald trump. ronald reagan called america a shining city on a hill. donald trump calls it a divided crime scene that only he can fix. he's betting that if he scares enough people he might store just enough votes to win this

election. that's another bet that donald trump will lose. he's selling the american people short. we're not a fragile people. we're not a frightful people. our power doesn't come from some self declare savior promising that he alone can restore order as long as we do things his way. we don't look to be ruled. our power comes from those e mortal declarations first put to paper right here in philadelphia all those years ago. we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that we the people can form a more perfect union.

that's who we are, that's our birthright. anyone who threatens our values will always fail in the end. that is america. that is america. those bonds of affection. that common creed. we don't fear the future, we shape it. we embrace it as one people. stronger together than we are on our own. that's what ihillary clinton understands. this fighter, this stateswoman, this mother and grandmother, this public servant, this patriot, that's the america she's fighting for. >> and the president ended his speech by embracing hillary clinton on stage.

>> chuck yeager todd, your reaction to the president's speech. >> how did he do. >> does it translate in a positive way for hillary clinton? >> this was the rebuttal he's been dieing to give. he's been dying to do this rebrutal of trump. nothing has been motivating him more to embrace hillary clinton than being able to give that speech and rebut trump. >> did he seize the moment in. >> i thought he seized the moment. to me, one of the most intriguing lines in his speech is when he said what we heard in cleveland was neither republican for conservative. >> i said the same thing last hour. that was jarring. a lot of republicans believing. eric erickson said thank you on twitter for that. >> wow. >> and look, there's high road and low road with trump and that was a high road moment for the president signaling to republicans, wait a minute. it would be easy to tar but i was like wait a minute, we know this isn't the republican party. >> put up eric erickson's tweet

that chuck yeager was referencing. writing, the gop offered a vision of doom, despair and division. tonight the president i think divides us offered optimism. i hate this year. >> and there's another conservative who said wow, barack obama defended america. >> america! >> in a way that i would have wanted the republican nominee to defend. >> we conservatives when democrats have knocked america in the past, when liberals have knocked america in the past, we always say it's the last best hope for a dying world, that we're the city shining brightly on the hill for the world to see, that we fed and freed more people than anybody else. donald trump does not share that view. there's nothing reaganesque about donald trump. last night it was barack obama. >> think about the convention last week and literally every night chants with fists in the

air, lock her up. and speech after speech after speech that just hated on her instead of talking about their own candidate. it was an empty shell of a convention. >> it is a compelling narrative, compelling contrast really that last week you had chants of lock her up. this week you have the president defending the honor of the united states. you have the vice president defending the honor of the united states. you have democrats -- >> former president. >> -- saying what most americans believe. we are great, we have problems, but we're a great country. >> one of the things we said last week is it's okay to describe the doom and gloom in the country but then you've got to turn the corner and remind people why this is a great country. but i will say in a campaign that's had many moments to reorganize the sin nap sises in

your brain, barack obama owning the legacy of ronald reagan, wait a minute. he sees that the reagan optimism belongs to democrats. but there are a lot of people that don't feel that way. there are a lot of people out of work, lost jobs, don't see them coming back. a lot of people that are scared on a national security level. they watch orlando. that go to trump because of that. there are many people not as optimistic as barack obama was. >> they want to make this election to say we need to change course. we can't have four more years. democrats are equally divided after last night saying here's barack obama, approval rating above 5% willing to put it on the line to help hillary clinton get elected. it's a referendum on do you want four more years like the last eight. >> say what you will about barack obama, but donald trump and hillary clinton has approval

ratings in the 450i 20s and 30s, barack obama sitting in the 50s. i suspect he could be pushing in the 70s. >> they tend to leave on an upsurge and i think barack obama is leaving on an upsurge. he made a good case for all of the great things he's done, you may not agree with all of them, the jobs, obamacare, the auto industry, things like that. u think the clinton people are on board of the idea of pivoting off of obama's success saying he's done a lot, we need to do more. i was with ardent clinton supporters and the mood many my room was electric. these people came out muched up and excited. >> i can believe that. >> so motivated by the speech. >> it was pummel donald trump night. if our numbers don't move after

this -- >> that is a problem. >> that's a problem. >> they will. >> it was a very effective night. >> a lot depends on what she does tonight. this is disconcerting. i agree with erick erickson, here we are coming to the end of two weeks of conventions and who are the two people that spoke for my view of america? of what i hope america is? what my mom and dad conservative republicans from the deep south always told me americans were, a mom and dad who never voted for a democrat other than when my mom sneaked into the voting booth to joet for jfk because she thought he was attractive. sorry, mom, i had to tell. she never told me dad that, until he passed away she goes, i voted for jfk. i thought he was cute. it's michelle obama and barack

obama that for me offered the most reaganesque view of america. >> wow. >> at least the america that i believe in. and that is an america where a white house built by slaves 240 years later -- because what happened in philadelphia in 1776 and what happened in philadelphia in 1787 that in that america anything is possible. and again last night it is ronald reagan that really, i thought, sounded out in barack obama's speech. so when you look at the two conventions and that's what we're left with two weeks later, i don't think it's a great sign for the republican party or the republican candidate. and paul ryan and mike pence and other true conservatives who grew up believing what i grew up believing who are good men who have dedicated their lives to a

vision of america that we are a city shining brightly on a hill, they're in a terrible position right now and they've got to figure out how to get out of that corner. >> i think being honest and true to your principles would be the way to start. i mean that really -- usually when in doubt you go with that. >> chuck yeager is right, though. there will be 110 national and key state polls between now and labor day. if the race is tide or trump is ahead, the democrats are going to freak out. wee key leakes posted minutes of audio of what it claims are leaked voice mails. nbc news hasn't authenticated the files and isn't quoting from them for now. donald trump batted back accusations that his campaign is being assisted by the russians.

suggesting that if they did, they should go a step further. >> it's just a total deflection this whole thing with russia. if they hacked, they have her 33,000 e-mails. i hope they do. they probably have her 33,000 e-mail that she lost and delete. but i watched this guy and he talked about, we think was russia that hacked. and then he said, could be trump. yeah, yeah, trump. trump. it is so farfetched, so ridiculous. honestly i wish i had that power. i would love to have that power. but russia has no respect for our country and that's why, if it is russia. nobody knows. it's probably china. or it could be somebody sitting here. i will tell you this, russia if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails

that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. let's see if that happens. that will be next. >> do you have any qualms about asking a foreign government, russia, china, anybody, to interfere, to hack into a system of anybody's in this country? >> that's up to the president. let the president talk to them. >> does that not give you pause. >> no, gives me no putt. >> to have a foreign government -- >> you know what gist me more pause, that a person in our government, crooked hillary clinton -- hear's what gives me pause. be quiet. i know you want to save her. that a person in our government, katie, would delete or get rid of 33,000 e-mails. th that gives me a big problem. if anybody has those e-mails, to be honest with you, i'd love to see them. >> i would think that the whole team is in line here with this ridiculous message, right? >> trump's running meat mike

pence released a statement reading in part, the fbi will get behind who is behind the hacking. if it is russia and they're interfering in our elections, both partiance the united states government will ensure there are serious consequences. an aid clarified that pence's statement was prepared before trump speak. >> what's going on there? and what is he actually do behind the scenes? >> i might not have clarified that. i might have just let that go. >> let it go. let all of us interpret what that meant. >> is anyone talking to the candidate saying this is the wrong way to go? >> no. i mean donald trump also, though, chuck, yesterday asked vladimir putin to stay out of the elections. he said i'm not going to do that. >> who is the pro-putin constituency that he's speaking

to? i don't -- like, let's say he wanted putin's help. wouldn't you pretend to denounce him? i mean the idea that he doesn't even -- >> he admires him. >> what's going on? >> you don't say we don't want an adversary mezing around in our election. >> the problem is he ad mires vladimir putin, says he's a stronger leader. >> strong. >> says this man who assassinates journalists and political rivals that disagree with him, that he's a better leader than barack obama. praised the chinese for putting down protests in teeianman square, saying they were stronger that the russians were in the 1980s. he praises what he consider to be strong leaders who kill political opponents. >> you heard obama push back on that when he talked about home grown demagogues when he talked

about our government is formed by us, controlled by us, not somebody es. that's a big part of the narrative of the campaign. >> wow. chuck todd, thank you very muchg throughout the day. >> chuck, you can go back upstairs. we'll have the camera follow you. up next on "morning joe" -- >> hillary clinton, she's smart, she's steady, she's right and she's ready. donald trump, he's reckless, he's risky, he's wrong and he's scary. >> fresh off his speech at the democratic convention, mayor bill de blasio is live onset and joins us next on "morning joe." when you look at vladimir putin, you said he's a great

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chanting ]. >> okay. that was democrats jeering one of the party's most respected national security figures, leon panetta. >> it was i think a low point. >> awkward. >> last night. a low point when you had a general being jeered. i understand the chants of "no more war", but you have a general who is actually saying donald trump is not fit to shine john mccain's boots. he's delivering one knockout line after another. and then leon panetta trying -- i mean, listen. you've got to have more than just bernie supporters to win a general election. leon panetta is reaching out to scoop jackson as we used call them, democrats. and yet they're shouting him down. >> listen. if you were in the hall last night, there were people shouting during president obama's speech.

there was a "no tpp" chant. there's still a faction in the hall that's upset that bernie sanders is not the nominee. >> it was mild. >> but the voices are still there. >> the president reached out to the bernie supporters in his speech. so you get a sense they're trying to bring everyone together. joining us now, the democratic mayor of new york city, bill de blasio also with us, msnbc local correspondent casey hunt. and if you look at casey's job, she's literally flanked by her family. that's her family, her mom and dad and sister carly right behind her. we planned that very nice. isn't that sweet? >> perfect. >> mr. mayor, take us inside the convention center last night. a lot of jeering. you say it's democracy. the clinton team would probably prefer that the democracy were a

bit more muted when leon panetta and the general were talking. >> a few people can speak out and call out in the middle of something like that and it sounds like a lot more than it is. let's be clear. it was a vibrant primary process. we saw anytime '08, we saw it in '04. one of the issues was we want to make sure that the u.s. does not get militarily involved more than it needs to. a strong current in the democratic party. i have no problem with that coming out and people expressing their concern. there was a huge amount of support for leon panetta, a huge amount of appreciation for him. it's going to mean that a lot of people who do work in november to elect hillary clinton, to elect u.s. senators, i'm fine with it. we do not need tore a monolithic party to be effective. >> wit us distracting to people in the hall, it was distracting to people at home. >> to watch. >> it was distracting to the

audience who was watching the millions of people who spent the first couple of minute saying, what are say saying? >> i was sitting on the podium last night. they essentially shouted him down. he stopped speaking while they quieted the crowd. there was some shouting during obama's speech. that never happened. but i think, you know, that's a very difficult thing. democrats know they need the group of people to support donald trump and donald trump is playing into the clinton campaign's hands. i'm not sure it's helpful to have progressives with this message for them. >> let me ask you the question we've been asking this morning and i asked joe biden yesterday. why is it that white working class voters, a lot of union members are leaning towards trump right now, especially in states like pennsylvania and ohio. do you agree with joe biden that the democratic party has not been communicating well to white working class votes? >> absolutely.

>> why is that? >> you're an example. you're one of the people that got elected in part because ronald reagan on, democrats did not do a good job reaching the white working class. this is a lot of what came out in the election. the democratic party appeared to be too close to where a lot of the other power centers were that were part of the problem. this year has been corrective, very cleansing for the democratic party. obviously the most progressive platform this party has had in generations. you have to go back to lyndon johnson or before to find something like that. primary process i think has allowed us to address something we need to address in 1980. we're not the party of working people in a vivid way, willing to take on wall street, willing to tax the wealthy, we're going to lose working white class people. >> that is even though the message might be clearer now because we've gotten the message is the messenger still somebody

that is part of the past, part of what has really pushed people to someone like donald trump and has thousands showing up on a sweltering hot day in scranton, pennsylvania to hear donald trump. >> the messenger as you heard last night from the president of the united states, the most qualified person to run for president ever. >> i don't argue with that. >> this is why the biography is more important going forward. this is the ultimate job interview. a lot of the american people haven't stopped to contemplate the totality of hillary clinton. they will now. the time she took on the health insurance industry, you guys remember it. it was a battle royal. it was as many bernie sanders ideas were being played out in the white house. that's going to happen again in the future under hillary clinton. she is tough enough to take them on and she's done it throughout her life. by the way, that's proof, that's

not theory. you remember what a shock to the system it was to have a first lady first of all say, i'm going to play a major role here and then she took on -- >> so that happened in 1993. you know what else happened in 1993, 1994, nafta, the world trade organization, bill clinton got elected, he went through new hampshire in 1992 telling people that he felt their pain. he actually was the correction. he was going to bring jobs back to new hampshire and the rest of america. now white working class voters look at the clintons as part of the problem. the people that passed nafta and put us in the world trade organization that have been supportive of treaties like tpp. so how does hillary clinton get past that even when terry mccullum is going i know what she's saying but i don't believe it. >> i'm not in charge of terry

mccullum. leave that piece aside. one of the things that we've learned over the last 20 years is it's not necessarily the trade deals that cause the problem, it's the lack of doing anything to ameliorate the situation by the losers. we're all winners in this room from trade deals probably. but we haven't done anything for the losers. that's the lesson learned. not that nafta was a terrible thing pu we haven't done enough things. what you'll see hillary talking about are all of the things that we need to do now to fix the problems of not just the white working class but the whole working class in the country. and look, the world moves on. she's moved on. and i think you see that reflected in what she's been saying this time around. >> it will be on her when we hear from her, the candidate herself, herself to sort of turn the page and say i can do this. i'm part of the past and the future. >> i think that's right. and one thing that struck me, too, from last night and i kind

of wonder how that will play out over the course of the day is how many of these figures that we followed for so many years were all together in the same space last night. meeting backstage, a source telling me that president obama went in to talk to tim kaine before he got out on stage. the clintons, the kaines and the bidens were all together in a room last night. they stayed later than anybody thought they would talking. and the history there is just incredible because this of course hillary clinton having lost to barack obama in 2008, coming all the way back around, vice president joe biden feeling like in some ways this should have been his moment. >> a lot of people feel that way. >> he really wanted this. and to have him step out on that stage was pretty remarkable. but mr. mayor, i have one question for you. you obviously were up close for hillary clinton's very first where she was the candidate. what do you think she learned in that race that matters right

now? >> i think she learned in that race how to tell the people that they are a part of this. i think when she started out in the race she had never been a candidate before. she literally had trouble asking people for their vote, asking them to do something for her sean she realized over time it's an us thing. you have to speak to people in oerms of where we're going together. i think she's going to be very effective. by the way, the fact that -- one thing you heard a lot about last night, it's very compelling, we've never had a president who had this kind of perspective on the core of american life which is family. she'll be able to articulate that so strongly because she works worked on it for the first moments of her life. the reality of work life balance, children's needs, health insurance, all of the things that were part of what alienated the white working class and the working class in general from the democratic party. franklin delano roosevelt or lbj

spoke to the totality of people's lives and did something that families at the kitchen table could feel the difference from. the democrats stop doing that the right way. she's going to be able to say something we've never heard before from a presidential candidate. people like me are not the majority. congratulations to those who are in the majority are going to have an opportunity to elect a president who represents the majority of americans who are women. it's going to pick up steam with every passing month that we're going to make history in a very profound way. i think we're underestimating the lift that hillary is about to get and then the contrast with trump. we've been in a primary season up to this moment. now it's a true one on one. >> mayor de blasio, thank you very much. casey stay with us. coming up, the washington post breaks down the winners and losers from night three of the democratic national convention. "morning joe" live from philadelphia back in a moment.

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the end of donald trump's statement about what you read in those e-mails were disgraceful. you actually wrote an article about this talking about how even an issue of gay pride is a thinly disguised excuse for the white house to raise money. >> we're see in the e-mails, the sausage being made in fund-raising. how a gay pride dinner is who gave the most, wh's close to the president at the dinner. is this the guy the bigger donor or this guy. it's all out there in detail. and what's amazing to me is that donald trump in his commends on russia has taken the focus away from that. >> a crude blunt transactional e-mails within the dnc somehow eclipsed by donald trump appearing to want to cozy up with vladimir putin. >> it's the biggest insight into fund-raising that i have had in covering this topic. he's taken the focus away and

somehow he's made e-mails a topic that hillary clinton can go on the offensive this week about. >> how does that happen? >> that seems to be impossible. >> thank you. >> but donald trump said that he was being sarcastic about the 30,000 e-mails. >> just kidding. >> pick apart what else he said at the press conference. when he was asked, do you call on vladimir putin to stay out of the u.s. presidential elections. he doubled down on it. >> on his show he's said some incredible things. >> and you don't think this is happenstance. you think russia is actively involved in trying to influence this election. >> here's the real problem. this is actually an unprecedented national security crisis for the americans. obama has to deal with it. he's going back to the white house and he has to figure out how the americans respond to america's cyber protagonist

undermining politically the u.s. election. and if you think the dnc e-mails coming out before the democratic national convention happen to be the story, it's going to go well beyond this. and putin makes no bones about the fact that he's the only major leader in the world, there's nobody -- no major leader in the world out there that wants trump like putin does. and he has the capability of actually influencing the election. >> putin has gotten all but in the national front, funding organizations across europe whose intention is to break up the european union. >> this week the white house has been in touch with the unions trying to get tome to develop a combined strategy on this. i've spoke within ambassadors in washington and their response is we may know it's russia, we don't know it's putin.

we're trying to get rid of sanctions ourselves by the way. we don't want to work with you guys. the americans are going to have to do the lifting. it's not easy to come up with what your strategy is to punish the russians. by the way, the same russians obama is trying to work with on syria. that's a failed policy for him. he didn't have to address it last night but he better address it today. this is serious. >> if putin is trying to influence the election, what is it about donald trump that he feels will be helpful to him? can he manipulate him? >> why would putin want brexit. he's looking for a divide and conquer strategy. and if you talk to america's allies around the world, they're mortified by the notion of a president trump. beyond that you have all of the issues of to what extent trump is cozy with the russians, paul manafort who runs the trump campaign who's been on the

payroll of the president of ukraine, the pro-kremlin guy. he responses haven't been easy. but leaving aside any economic connections for the trump camp, it's very clear for putin that russia. america is 50/50. if you go around the world there's no one out there, no population out there saying they want trump with the exception of the russians. >> absolutely. >> and he wants -- >> destabilization. >> and on the supplying rebels in the ukraine he has embraced putin's policy on both of those things. >> he actually forced them to take arming ukrainean rebels out of the republican platform. he said on recognizing which is russians annexed unilaterally.

-- >> it's unbelievable. >> this feels unprecedented to me because chinese hackers targeted romney's campaign. paul ryan's statement yesterday, all of these other republicans, is there president for to have the rest of the party ton the national security issue? >> mike pence is even saying that. so pence and paul ryan are operating in the mainstream. we are the idea of a foreign country is a bad thing. trump is out there freelancing. this is why candidates and politicians speak carefully on foreign policy. with one false move you can make an incident. it's really dangerous. >> all right. thank you very much. >> thank you, guys. coming up tom brokaw, and

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we democrat haves always have plenty of differences with the republican party but what we heard last week wasn't republican and it wasn't conservative. >> trump said he want to run the

nation like he is running his business? god help us. this guy doesn't have a clue about the middle class. actually, he has no clue, period. truth be told, the richest thing about donald trump is his hypocri hypocrisy. >> and tonight i ask you to do for hillary clinton, what you did for me. i ask you to carry her the same way you carried me. >> everybody knows she is smart. everybody knows she is tough. >> and that's why i can say with confidence there has never been a man or a woman, not me, not bill, no -- nobody, to serve as president of the united states of america. good morning. it is thursday, july 28th.

we are live in philadelphia on the fourth and final day of the democratic national convention. along with joe, me and willie in a very loud pub we have the managing editors of bloomberg politics, mark halperin. >> willie, that was a heck of a night last night. >> what are you up to? >> it was a heck of a night. >> i'm stopping it. >> i'm hoping they had dog tracks as good as the one we had last night. i heard the convention went pretty well too. >> yeah, the turf club is a great place to be off track. >> yes. one star after another star after another star.

last night was like murder's row. >> when joe biden is pushed, if you're a democrat, the president's speech was uplifting. it is here is where we are today. sit an extension of the obama years and clinton saying how qualified she was. it was amazing. >> let's start with the president's peach 12 years today the with his speech to the democratic convention. it was against the one donald trump laid out one week earlier. >> look, we democrats have always had plenty of differences with the republican party and there's nothing wrong with that. it is this that pushes our

country forward. what we heard in cleveland last week wasn't republican and it sure wasn't conservative. what we heard was a deeply pessimistic vision. that is not the america i know. i see americans, every party, every background, every faith who believe that we are stronger together, black, white, latino, asian, native american, young, old, gay, straight, men, women, folks with disability pledging allegiance to this country i love. that's the america i know. after all of these years she has never forgotten just who she is fighting for. hillary has been in the room. she has been part of those decisions. she knows what's at stake in the

decisions our government makes, what's at stake for the working family, for the senior citizen, for the soldier, for the small business owner, for the veteran. that is the hillary i know. that is the hillary i have come to admire. that's why i can say with c confidence there has never been a man or woman, not me, not bill, nobody, more qualified as hillary clinton to serve as president of the united states of america. time and again you have picked me up. i hope some times i picked you up too. tonight i ask you to do for hillary clinton what you did for me. i ask you to carry her the same way you carried me. america, you vindicated that

hope these last eight years. now i'm ready to pass the baton and do my part as the private citizen. so this year i'm asking you to join me to reject cynicism and reject fear and summon what is best in us to let hillary clinton have the next president of the united states and show the world we still believe in the promise of this great nation. >> the president capped his speech by literally embracing hillary clinton on stage. the night went on from there. goodness, quite a speech. >> yeah. did the president do what was required for hillary clinton? >> yeah, i think he did. we have seen fornights of the democratic convention. he has put aside sub substantiatively. he dropped the mic out there in

a pretty dramatic way. he did not spend a lot of time. when he did go after trump it made it stronger. look, she is literally the most qualified to run for presidency. many will disagree with that but you couldn't ask for a more declarative welcome. >> that's right. >> if organizing conventions and running conventions well account for anything the democrats have once again lapped the republicans. >> absolutely. >> last night there were more a-list political stars up there speaking in one night. >> in a unified message. >> yes. than the republicans had last week. >> come on, now. >> no. he was good.

>> again, if you are a swing voter and you tuned into both conventions, that's usually wlaen lot of people start comparing. >> democrats had a long time to plan this. they have done this before and had a lot of precision and a lot of cooperation. after they got past the conflicts with bernie sanders you saw last night the two big families, the obama's and clintons. they have been rivals, allies. last night they were fused as one. barack obama needs thoher to wi for his legacy. their fates are intwined. >> the third night was described by booing of ted cruz. that was the image that came out of that night. >> right. >> and we have the president and his defining speech here.

i was struck at how overt everyone was try to go reach out the republicans last night. it was tim kaine references politics of his father in law. there was something conservative where he said we don't want to be ruld by one person. >> craig shirley e-mailed me and said what does it say when barack obama quotes ronald reagan more than the republican n nominee. it could have been a reagan speech. trust me. it was about optimism, about believing america's greatest days truly lie aid head. there was a great line that reached out to a lot of

republicans but it certainly got them thinking. it basically said that convention last week, what i heard out of that convention wasn't republican and it surely wasn't conservative. >> i agree with you guys. i was struck by the fact that he that you would republicans are such a mess, just that optimism. donald trump called our country a divided crime scene. he talked about engineers and all of the great things america does in the future. >> there seemed to be an appeal in a number of speeches. for people out there who don't feel like either party's platform is exactly who you are, look at the choice here and come this way for now, that choice i think republicans are making.

i heard that a lot. last mike wiki leaks posted 14 minutes of audio from top democratic officials. they haven't authenticated and isn't quoting from them. it was in accusations that his campaign is being assisted by the russian government. he dismissed analysis in break sboog the democratic national committee e-mails. those usuggesting if they did they should go a step further. >> by the way, if they hacked they probably have her 33,000 e-mails. i hope they do. they probably have her 33,000 e-mails she lost and deleted. you would see some beauties there. they say we think it was russia that hacked. then he said it could be trump.

yeah, yeah. trump, trump. honestly, i wish i had that power. i would love to have that power but russia has no respect for our country and that's why if it is russia, nobody knows. it's probably china or could be somebody sitting in his bed. i will tell you this, russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be reported by our press. let's see if that happens. that will be next. >> do you have any qualms about asking anybody to interfere, hack into a system of anybody's in the country? >> it's up to the president. >> does that give you pause -- >> no. gives me no pause. you know what gives me more pause? that a person in our government,

crooked hillary clinton. be quiet. i know you want to save her. that a person in our country would delete or get rid of 33,000 e-mails. if russia or china has those e-mails. i mean, to be honest with you, i would love to see them. >> that's republican nominee. >> it drew harsh criticism and disagreements even from allies. paul ryan said russia is a global men nance lead by a devious thug. if she talking about the

allegedly private e-mails he is invited a foreign intelligence service he is inviting the prooif si to the american constitution. >> and later, national security figured criticized him from the podium. >> donald trump calls himself the law and order candidate. he will violate international law. this morning, this very morning, he personally invited russia to hack us. that's not law and order. that's criminal intent. >> donald trump today, once again, took russia's side. he asked the russians to interfere in american politics. think about that. as some one who was responsible for protecting our nation from

cyber attacks, it is inconceivable to me that any presidential candidate would be that irresponsible. >> first of all, a footnote. it is inconceivable that democrats in that audience would be booing him with chants of no more war. >> i kept asking what's going on. >> to go after donald trump on foreign policy. it's good to know that the gop does not have a monopoly on stupidi stupidity. what they did to the admiral and peneta -- this is donald trump. he says something outrageous, something bizarre, something dangerous and he grabs the

headlines. i noted last night and i went to check and wrote a brief post about it last night that when you had the top democratic speakers on stage, six of the washington post's top seven stories, that night, were about donald trump's invitation to russia. you know, the funny thing is people have been saying why do you pay attention to trump? why do you always allow him to grab headlines when you a major party candidate inviting them to hack into the state department system? i think that's a news story. >> and, you know, trump is great at grabbing headlines. mike pence and his spokesman repeated what he said. he made a bad mistake. forget the warm things and

forget his sort of cute thing. >> but putin or at least russia may be funding his business empire. we will never know because palm sa -- paul says he will not release that information. the question hangs over his head. >> what he did yesterday in talking about russia is way too cute. i think he is making not just a substantive mistake but a political mistake. >> i don't really think that. yesterday we talked about putin interfering, does he have elections? what's the story here? you said there's smoke, right? >> a lot of smoke. >> yesterday trump gives a press conference to address the issue. most political figures i know would walk up and pour it on top of smoke to put the smoke out.

denounce putin instead pours gasoline all over the fire. basically everything he did only raises questions more, the questions of what is his connection to putin? all of the -- every political question that was damaging and what was out there he exacerbated. >> and he said well, we'll look into that. we'll look into recognizing that. >> big mistake. >> how much of this is because he is riffing? >> i don't think you can riff our security. >> that's what you give people pause here. i don't think it is a well thought out plan. we are talking about obama spoke, biden spoke, cain spoke

but i thi-- kaine spoke. >> and we'll button this up with your column you posted last night entitled donald trump takes us all for a ride again. the donald is still dominating the news. on a day when they scheduled a long list the post's top seven stories focused on the nominee. at least rich chard nixon's mend under the cover of night. political she nan begans should be performed under the brightest of creed lights. it seems to focus on little more than dominating the next news

cycle at any cost. tonight this one-trick pony has taken us all for a ride again. >> again, it is about p.t. barnum. just spell the name right. >> being president of the united states and he is very casual with that. she angry at the press for people pushing this idea that he was some howlinged to russia, that slaurussia was working on behalf. i don't think he came in thinking he would do that. i think everything he does is sort of ad libbed. you can't say that. >> you just can't. >> yes, he was just riffing. i think we all agree he was just riffing. >> you think he was joking?

>> but there is a much bigger question regarding russia. why did he come on this show and say that he had respect for putin as a leader even after we talked about him assassinating politicians and journalists? why did he say we kill people here in the united states too. at least he is a leader. there is something there. there is a russian connection there. what is it? >> it comes in the context of all of other things including about nato. i think yesterday was a case where he didn't know the issue which is when he said we'll take a look at that. >> he thought tim kaine was the governor of new jersey, right? still ahead, donald trump continues to resist releasing

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they are hitting me at that convention, trump, trump. they have going crazy because we are leading now in the polls. they have going crazy. they don't know what to do. this was not supposed to happen. we are back now live and that is a good question. there have a lot of questions we have right now but that's the best one going on right now. >> thank you. >> what are they saying? >> where is the truck? >> where is the truck? >> where is mike barnicle?

>> he made an honest bet. >> welcome to nicole wallace. now, i don't know -- i don't know if he has ever been in a pub before but we have stev steve cornaki. good to have you all on board. >> and he spoke far lot of republicans when he said it seems to me that barack obama is channelling ronald reagan than our own nominee did last week. i hate this year. the president i think divides offered us optimism. i hate this year.

craig shirley noted barack obama's speech a lot closer to the world view of ronald reagan than donald trump to gop convention. >> you know what i thought he did brilliantly so far this week -- and i think the democrats have had a good week. everyone else has taken on trump the man. obama made clear who we are and who we are not. i think that was the template. that is what you run against. i think hillary clinton will end up on treadmill if she tries to go toe-to-toe with trump. i think taking down trumpism and replacing it with what we are. i think if you take the michelle obama speech and president obama speech last night i think the two of them tell a better story and one that recsays -- with whe

are. >> there is such thing as -- >> right. >> that we are the shining city ton hill. >> right. >> but you have donald trump who seems to be in the lead with putin. saying that this dictator who murders journalists is a better leader than the president of the united states. >> and this is not new. some times people mistake the things trump says as gas. there is a genuine affinity for putin. >> and yesterday trump tried to distance himself with ties from russia. we have been talking about frank and reporting on donald trump's business ties on russia. he says he is saying russians make up a cross section of our

assets. we see a lot of money pouring in from russia. >> wow. >> as trump put it the russian market -- >> i believe he had a pageant there. >> but russians make up a disproportion amount of assets that come into the trump organization. >> i think if you look at trump's statements in the last week about russia about the statements about nato is a little invitation yesterday for the russian intelligence to take a deeper look for the political campaign. >> the hack. >> and why did it -- >> foreign es ppionagespionage. >> and after saying it he then tweeted it. it is not something he is backing away from.

it is a real distinction here in the way of people aren't quite ready to be president. >> and i wonder what the angry hip ster thinking about it. >> yeah. >> it's a hit. >> we worked together earlier this morning. he made a wardrobe change. >> and coming to a bar in philadelph philadelphia. >> next he'll be wearing sleeveless. >> yeah. >> he had hillary clinton surrogates rushing onto tv to talk about her e-mails, and talk about this case and totally flip it to a national security

question. he has been talking about law and order and a world spinning out of control. she can say this is a dangerous man. >> and trump's theory seems to be if you have been quiet for a day you have been quiet for a day too long. it seems like he wants to insert himself in even if it meens kicking up a controversy. it has been a very good week for him. i think they still left to potential opening for donald trump before he probably stepped all over it yesterday but i think they left it exposed a little by by joe biden. i thought joe biden had the strongest speech but it struck me it was 9:30 on wednesday night. it was the first time i heard one of the features speakers pitching to blue collar america. it had trump up 3 points.

you had noneducated white voters by margins we have never seen before. i think they haven't addressed it. they have an opening there. trump comes talking about russia and e-mails. he is not taking advantage of it. >> and biden telegraphed that for us. he is going to talk to the white working class voters. there's not a cop and he will go out and he tried to do that last night. >> what was it about the party that once again, four years after mitt romney's convention that ended up with an 82-year-old guy -- >> that was a good convention. >> why is it that the democrats have just cleaned our clocks as

far as pageantry. four years ago clint eastwood talked about chair and everybody else talked about themselves. democrats were on message then and they are on message now. >> and the bush convention was run very much like that. they brought science to this programming. minute by minute seech speaker achieves the objectives. it took a long time to get to her objective but, you know, before we go on too long about how bad the republican convention was rngs it wasn't ineffective. they are touting the l.a. times. i think the jury is still out about how important it is but we did not have one and they have.

>> all right. thank you both. >> thank you, guys. stay with us. up next jeff springfield joins the organization. and what he says is the most important message clinton and her campaign are delivering this week. that's ahead on "morning joe." i'm anne howard and i'm michael howard. we left on our honeymoon in january 2012. it actually evolved into a business. from our blog to video editing... our technology has to hang tough with us. when you're going to a place without electricity, you need a long battery life. the touch, combined with the screen resolution... a mac doesn't have that. we wanted to help more people get out there and see the world. once you take that leap, that's where the magic happens.

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i do want to hear it eventually because i want to see a woman become president but it can't be her. she is a disaster. she is a disaster. she will set you back a long way, women if that happens. it will be a long time if that happens. you better be careful what you wish for. 51 past the hour. new york times reporter, jeremy peters with us and political analyst with us, jeff

springfield. welcome on board. >> you have been to a few of these. >> we are once again from the minute trump announced to yesterday saying the same thing, how could he survive this? i think at this point it is time to say that many of the basic measurements we have used and passed are in temporary or permanent suspension. he got new jersey and virginia governor confused. it happens to ben carson -- >> or dan quail or sarah palin. >> this guy is competitive. >> and let's talk about the dictator from russia. >> the idea he would embrace a

russian dick dater, but it sounds different from the politics i grew up in, particularly reagan. democracy is our watch and for trump, no, if you're strong enough that's what we want. >> that's what he admires. we have gone from tear down this wall to do whatever you want. >> he hacked the dnc. >> yeah. the only thing i can think of is that ordinary voters aren't absorbing this news the way that we are. one crisis after another, one foot in the mouth after another, when it doesn't hurt him you have to wonder, what is moving people? it is a couple of things. one is there are so few undec e undecidundecid undecided voters left they think there is so much information

coming constantly about this campaign. it is like a fire hose. while we are distracted about hacking the dnc will be onto the next. >> no fact checking. >> are these putin's statements? the same place we filed away the melania speech? >> i think people are paying very close attention. they are dug in their hatred of hillary and dug in their support of an outsider. i think there are some people in trump's face that like the idea of two strong men. i think trump is our strong man. >> you know what he has done is tell his followers the media cannot be trusted. even when a story comes out and

facts are at play he went up and pointed at people in the press and said you're inventing this out of thin air. none of this happened. there is no link to russia. they are coming for us again. >> and i think it is really critical. when the press finally began to focus on what he was saying the response is who said that? the new york times? nbc? washington post? why should we believe you now? >> when sean is doing fact checking you know something has gone awry. it shoes you how politicized fact check has become. >> it has happened throughout the entire campaign whether it was with john mccain or fox news

but there is a different controversy every week. it's the same cycle. you look at it. usually during the early campaign he would drop an outrageous statement on saturday. he knows it will hit the sunday papers. it hit it is sunday papers and what everybody talks about on the sunday news shows. i can't remember exactly but i think mccain happened on saturday and megan kelly happened on saturday niechlgt he was on the sunday shows and it drove the stories for a good part of the week. >> i remember i had kind of a strong reaction to the melania speech because i thought it was something that universally could be understood no matter what your political background is. i feel like you could understand what plagiarism is and there was

not. >> they say there are common words and phrases. >> and when one female goes after another -- >> and i thought it was nathan. i didn't say that. he said that. there's a kind of denial of what most of us will regard. >> he threw the candidate's spouse under the bus. >> the only campaign. >> yeah. for the debacle that was the plagiarized speech. >> it's the world that we live in now. it's the world we live in because everybody gets the information where ever they want to get the information. they sort it out. they pick it out. if it reenforces all of their preexisting police and prejudices it's that. >> they are entitled to their own facts. one of the things that's really

interesting here, it's difficult to tell trump supporters that he is distorting the truth a, because he is so good at misdestruction bmi misdrimi misdirection. it is a unique thing from trump supporters. >> it was actually her. it wasn't us saying it. >> but this is a guy who just five years ago maybe, six years ago was saying hillary was a great leader. >> but what jeremy is talking about, if you strongly believe something your response is to redouble down on what you believe. we'll show you the facts and you'll make a judgment faced on them. the law of gravity is in it.

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she knows that sometimes she has made mistakes just like i have, just like we all do. that's what happens when we try. that's what happens when you're, not the timid souls that criticize from the sideline but someone who is actually in the arena, who strives valliantly,

who airs but knows in the end the triumph of high achievement. >> what? they want what? donuts? we better get them some donuts. >> get them donuts. what's that place called that has the donuts? >> i do love a donut. >> send some donuts here. >> chocolate. >> chocolate donuts. >> i'm talking to you. it's the final day. we have a lot of hungry people here. final day of the democratic national convention. they are acting like it here in philadelphia.

we have nicole wallace and political editor at the washington post, chris. good to have you. >> all right. lest very quickly go around. first of all, this special relationship is obviously trump and put inn. how do you explain that to your friends in britain? >> in all eersness i think there is a growing realization if trump becomes president he will be limited here by divided government. the real action he can take is

giving, allowing the baltic countries to be invaded. that's lot of nervousness. >> remember when we brought the reset button? we need that in a big way. >> i think it was reflected in this convention all weechlk. it is not funny anymore. >> they are saying one man -- >> look at what he did yesterday. foreign policy, you just can't say that. remember they should have their own nuclear -- i mean that's the danger. >> the problem with dealing with somebody like that, who has shown himself capable of invading other countries. to give him the offer, it's not

like we are evacuating. he has done this -- you know, the rest of the -- they thought what were these si americans thinking? there is a rel sense thinking america would be protected by the dam retic senate. >> that is the problem, about whether he has temperament. if he tries to run over the congress he won't get anything duchbl they will not be tiebl be a check on the message we have

been talking about barack oba obama's inex-in we're stepping it audiotape about three notches. zb . >> i don't understand why they can't take it and voice their concerns. there is a third option. he could get better. he could start learning. he could understand it. >> but why would he do that? >> why doesn't he want to do that. why don't republican leaders who backed him -- you were calling weeks ago. why aren't there conditions -- >> why do we think republicans would be a backstop if they

don't even condemn statements when he asked russia to hack an american agency. >> i meant they would be a check on him the one slice that is not in dlooef land. i think donald trump -- >> but you just asked a question, why doesn't donald trump want to learn? it may be a little too late. think where you were in the 2008 election. you had a vice president shl nominee who was woefully ignorant when it -- she did not know the basics about fon we

have that who that has no desire to learn. >> a palin went to bed with a highlighter. she understand she was on the ticket with a man who was respected around the world. mccain's national security matter was undisputed. he could read the looming tower and speak more eloquently about 9/11. and he said the people were so great. the military cue, he didn't even know which side was which. >> and yesterday the question

about crime a, he has -- >> yeah, the idea of oh, we are going to look at him. that is his out for i have no idea. >> why does he not -- zwl all right. >> you can go back to michael wolf interview and he didn't know what brexit. >> even though he had come out. >> he'll look into it. >> that is the the tault. it's i don't know what you'res about over and over again that is that doing.

>> and i said it in realtime, i think one of the worst moments for donald trump, for those thought he may work wits paz when he spent the entire saying most who rivic things. he sat down they. they were weak, showed no spain and told him you codo what we will sacrifice everything that we have fought forour entire

lives. paul ryan sk fiesed everything that we believed. he says we share the same values. >> and listen, you can count on one hand the hold outs. you can count on one hand the guys who say ted cruisz, for example. >> yeah, you can count them on where you kn one hand. now that he is our nominee he doesn't care to learn. there is an elitism. >> he has his own plane. >> he has a briefing book, read it for 30 minutes on syria or

turkey or brexit. >> yeah. >> no one expects him to know all of this stuff. >> and you guys read about nato, okay? i don't have to read about him because guys like you do. >> and we saw this in the brexit campaign as well. >> yes. >> that donald trump is trapping into. it is the experts that have got you into trouble. one of the people campaigning for leave said we have had enough of experts telling us about the committee. who do you want? >> a soccer player? >> yeah. >> and i think you have got some of that here and some of that with donald trump. if you're an expert you're a suspect. >> the republican party is right

now in jeopardy of blowing apart. all of their leaders have compromised themselves to such a degree that we had a guy yesterday talking about having them hack into state department we mals. thank you hayden as a leader with courage. i didn't see people on the hill do i. >> paul ryan put out a statement calling putina thus. >> what wut? >> a couple of months ago we had he says oh, great, the guys who

got us the this plaes are criticizing me. we are starting fresh. >> and the thing that is difficult is think of it from her perspective. it has been affirmed over and over again. chris christie, everyone who said this guy isn't sbintereste enough, all of them lost. she a 70-year-old man. how many 70-year-old men do you think i just had this great success. it's not a thing. >> this is a much larger problem. you can talk about people being elected president. everybody says there's no way

nay can win. there's no way they can win then they win. for the rest of the presidency they discount everybody that criticizes them. you can say that about barack obama. they had enough friends. he was one of the most isolated, insulated in u.s. history. one of his famous quotes shows just how isolating the presidency can be is when he was getting criticized. he said if you're so smart how does it effect him. it is obviously having a bigger impact on trump. >> yeah. they famously felt sidelined in '08. they said who are we?

we are the dumb guys that won twice. so there is something about being a successful president. it makes them resistant. i think the idea that it helps him is half of it. the other is why isn't he -- >> what's, the the answer? i'm sorry to say this, but they all love this dri country. i don't don't have, he is running it over. i'm were ri i just don't feel i.

you they may have let under the circumstances down but they love this y. >> i'm not getting it. are you? are any of you. >> you're saying -- i'm sure he loves his country but i don't feel he is driven through love of country. >> i think how is this -- >> but what drives him? >> i think it's that drives him. >> so just -- >> i don't think he sees the country is what i have observe

the comments about the press are startling to me. he use to have the if. i en. >> and jose dell del r irk, to. they say you can't go in with a cell phone and computer. he puts them in the car. he tries to enter again. you can't come in. it has nothing with him being republican. it is dangerous as -- and it's not that i'm trying to clean it up. >> i hope not.

>> you're not questioning dn nald's trump of tli but i don't know the principals that so many people from different bangened p i don't think it is driven by that. i don't see it. anyone who does, speak up now. >> the one thing i will say is i do think it is -- i think all of these people, they have an inele inelect. >> i think he hufs his country of it the things he wants to do.

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all right. 24 past the hour, the first woman of rhode island and senator from ohio. how is ohio doing? >> we are doing well. we just had a convention. it got really dark that week. >> it got really dark. >> thursday night the skies opened. >> yes. >> and giuliani left. >> stop that. stop that. we are trying to be nice. >> cleveland is a great city. >> and a lot of great things happening in rhode island as well. >> absolutely. >> you sort of turned the tables over. democrats don't know who is on what side? >> rhode island is definitely a

state on the rise. ge put a big facility in providence. it is the best restaurants in america. you should come visit. >> okay. it's on. >> i have a new grandson that lives in providence. >> tell us what you have seen so far. >> the first night michelle obama's speech was the best of the convention. she said don't tell me this isn't a great country when you began just about donald trump, he talks about the decline. i don't judge whether he loves his country or not. i assume anybodying for president does. i understand what's.

the zip code i lived in had more forclosures than any city. i know what it has done to our communities. i see wages are far too stagnant. all of that. to say this isn't a great country and for trump's whole country to say disaster, how bad america is, i don't think -- >> yeah. >> and it's peculiar. it's not a winning country. people in this country love this country, republicans and democrats alike. >> how is trump, who is he appealing to? >> he was appealing to people's anger and people's hopelessness in many cases. that is probably the wrong word.

people thought my generation would have it better than the next generation. hillary clinton versus a guy that really continues to say idiotic things, the public will start making that contrast now that the primaries are over. >> right. >> and then the polls -- >> let me put gina in an awkward position. are you a democrat? >> yes. >> easy. for some reason i thought some things that have gone on with the budget. but you look towards hillary clinton as the first woman president this has to be an exciting time for you. >> yes.

it is unbelievably excited. i'm racing home tonight to watch her speech with my 12-year-old daughter because i want to be there with my daughter. this is real. this is a historic moment. i will be with my 12-year-old daughter and she will be there and we'll watch hillary clinton accept the nomination for the first time in history. woman get it. the number of little girls who come up to me and say because you're a governor i know i can do it. i feel that way. >> rhode island's governor. thank you both so much. come back. keith ellison is next.

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the jury boxes. digital media, the new power in american politics. trump's issues continue to dominate, terror and crime. >> it is the ones that are unhappy with what's going on. government is much more subtle. clinton reflects that. she talks in subtlety and she talks in refinement. >> all right. let's take a look at hillary and where she is. >> in a summer of terror and murder it is not surprising these issues are front and center. hillary has been much more about social and working class issues. does she need to change in her acceptance speech? >> if you understand what the pulse is you have a good sense

and donald trump has this. clinton is doing better but she is too subtle. >> still trying to catch up. >> he believes it will be true on election day. >> it is deep in the soul of the american public. >> they will all know at the same time. >> and ladies and gentlemen, tom brokaw joins us now. >> also with us rola ferrell. >> and you talked about how wired the convention was. same thing here. you say what's so interesting the issues that were important there are important here.

>> yeah. and i haven't checked this morning about whether his comments about russia had much of an impact. my guess is probably not. it is profoundly important issues and influential. it is true people can go online and register what they feel about it. you see it play out. they are not saying she is better than he is. they have saying this is what worries us. you'll be able to watch in the course of the next couple of months these things change. actually i think it's good for democracy and also profoundly danger use. you can hack into it, begin to change it and we'll respond to what turns out to be a false front. that's danger. this thing is moving at warped speed. i have never seen -- i have been doing this far long time. i have never seen a new

technology. >> yeah. and i'm watching your response here. this is what you guys do. i put you -- >> token tweeter. >> i'm watching reaction come in. it is almost -- >> i'm getting -- >> it will continue to get worse. >> i'm glad that you raised that, it is what it does to the discourse. his triumph is that it is tweet form and not for readiness for viral apropuation but also p pro -- they didn't decide social media-type sound bites. you got your mom and aunt

talking. you can see the real identity. >> and you wonder how many people follow donald trump who are in part of the twitter conversation who were tweeting me right now. you wonder how many of them is into politics, the first sort of real experience with it. i think the numbers might be high. >> i also wonder, we all have kids who they said things on the internet it would be called cyber bullying and they would get kicked out of most of their schools. where is the decorum? it doesn't exist. >> and they said our growth is arrested because of cyber bullying. it is so short and so anonymous. you get sort of the guy that would be ranting at the bar and he is online with a national platform. >> wait a minute. wait a minute. wait a minute.

in this town at the beginning of the american political system if you go back and read any part about history, what they were saying on the street and everybody owned a newspaper of some kind, if you know about m hamilton he would write essays and try to get his message out. it is electronic and much more responsive. the auditor challenged him. i always say that the first twitter came from abraham lincoln. he challenged him. lincoln accepted. he chose broad swords. lincoln is 6'4" and they go over and the guy begins to have

second thoughts when he sees lincoln pick up a sword and top a tree with it. lincoln said it was the worst thing i ever did. i challenged him unfairly and we almost killed each other. this thing has been going on in american politics for a long time. it is out of control. the obligation was to sort at what counts and what doesn't count and not just to accept because it comes off of a screen. >> thank you so much, tom bro w brokaw. this extended edition of "morning joe" is back in a moment. ally over at the ge booth. we're creating the operating system for industry. it's called predix. it's gonna change the way the world works. ok, i'm telling my brain to tell the drone to get you a copy of my resume. umm, maybe keep your hands on the controller. look out!! ohhhhhhhhhh... you know what, i'm just gonna email it to you. yeah that's probably safer. ok, cool.

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♪ joining us now, co chair of the congressional progressive caucus, democratic congressman, keith ellison of minnesota. [ cheers and applause ] really good to have you at the pub with us. >> you bet. good to be back. >> how is the progressive caucus coming along? >> you know what -- >> are we united? is. >> yes, we are. and we're getting more united every day. the platform was a big part of that. >> yeah. >> we saw really great stuff on the platform, $15 minimum wage. we came out against -- >> that's great. >> well, you know, there's a lot of good things in there.

stuff on pensions, stuff on fair trade deals, and a lot of concerns about tdp. so this -- we're going to get together on the basis of what we believe in, not just folding in and up our tent. but we believe in the same thing, we're going to fight together. >> what do we make of what's happening in the convention hall, though? because it does seem a little disruptive. >> look, this is a convention, man. you know, it's about cheering and rockin' and sockin. it's okay. a few signs never hurt nobody. >> all right. >> let's talk about the specifics of the convention. one of them is that hillary clinton is too hawkish. no war -- we sue that during leon panetta. but much more we're hearing anti trade stuff. anti trade deals. you want a more progressive vp pick than tim kaine was. >> but i'm happy with tim kaine. i'm fine with tim kaine. tim kaine is all right with me. i think it is a misnomer to call tpp a trade agreement. the tariffs are almost all really low or nonexistent. the real deal with the tpp countries is that it's a

state -- it's a program for global governance, right? so there is something -- this nearedy wonky thing called investor state resolution system, where a government can have its laws usurped, because of a corporate trade dispute. and a lot of people, not just in america, but in europe are concerned about this. it's just a basic issue of sovereignty. it's one thing that i think we and some conservatives can get together on. there were a number of us on both sides of the political aisle that say, wait a minute, by all means, let's trade, but let's make sure we maintain our sovereignty and that american law prevails, not some international, you know, law that's been official to a company. >> that is kind of wonky. but willie and i have written a couple papers on it. i don't want to bore you. >> let's not go into the details. >> it's a hinge thing. >> you're a strong bernie sanders supporter who became a hillary supporter. >> yeah. what. >> have you said and what do you continue to say to sanders'

supporters who found hillary clinton totally unpalatable because of some of the things, being a hawk, not speaking out for issues they feel is important and still holding their signs. what do you say to people you suddenly are asking to change everything they have been told during this campaign? >> you know, here's what i say about the signs. that a citizen, active citizen, needs to help members of the political group, politicians, govern the country. and one way of doing that is letting them know how you really feel. so as we go into the political season, as we go into the term that i know that hillary clinton will serve as president, it's important for the citizens to say we expect you to adhere to this set of principles that we all agree to. we want to hold you accountable. to what you said you would do in that platform. so i don't really see it as a problem. i see it as them just being active citizens and they have got to vote for hillary clinton. >> they were actively against her. so what's the argument beyond we

can't have donald trump be president? >> maybe -- >> because, they're still active citizens. they're going to make sure that whoever is in that seat, i hope hillary clinton, is going to stand up for what she said she was going to stand up to on the platform. >> where's the here's why you should love hillary clinton and campaign for her and put your energy behind her and she's going to be a great president? >>s because she has agreed to promote $15 minimum wage. because she has agreed she is going to take an active stance to change this whole war on drugs culture we have. because she's agreed to a platform that says we're going to de militaryize the police. >> those sound like concessions. the image of delegates with tape over their mouthses were a lot more jarring than signs. until michelle obama reset the convention, it was off to a very tumultuous start. >> this country was born in protests. it's always going to be that

way. and remains that way. there is nothing wrong with citizens raising their voice about things they feel passionately about. environmental folks -- [ applause ] environmental folks, people fighting for fair wages. all of this country has done that and they're doing it right now. so i urge party leaders, don't worry about this. just remember that we need to -- here's what i will say. demonstration without legislation ends in frustration. so don't just be mad. get active, get involved. get hillary clinton elected, and then hold her to what she promised. >> congressman keith ellison, thank you very much. [ applause ] up next, what, if anything, did we learn today. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing.

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michelle asked for chocolate doughnuts and got ten boxes. >> what did you learn? >> i learned i'm going to eat this chocolate doughnut. >> i learned no matter your politics, history tonight as hillary clinton becomes the first woman to accept the nomination. >> and i learned that jose diaz velarde picks up the coverage right now. have a great day, everybody. and good thursday morning once again from independence mall. i'm jose diaz velarde. we have arrived at the grand finale of the democratic national convention. hillary clinton preparing for the biggest speech of her life. she'll accept the party's presidential nomination and lay out her vision for the future in just a couple hours. and this morning, the tort has officially been passed. barack obama, the nation's first black president, embracing his one-time rival, who could be the nation's first female president. the president trademarking clinton as his