second thoughts about paying him half. he bullied this guy, this small business entrepreneur, he threatened him, would tie him up in court forever. this fie had guy had to settle virtually zip. he had to pay his guys and donald trump got to enjoy the clubhouse he built. when it comes to trump, you know, there are just too many stories like that. i talked about it at the convention the other night. so many people when they believed in him, they found out they got stiffed and now he's still saying, hey, folks, believe me. we've got a candidate who respects glouf s you enough toa plan. here's what hillary said the other night. i've got details, but remember if it's about your own kid or if

it's about your own business, it's not a detail. it's a big deal. you ought to have to tell people what you're going to do. but trump just says, look, believe me, trust me, and we'd be fools to do it. i can't help to thinking what would have happened if my dad's business had been trying to do business with seven or eight employees for a guy like trum whop just felt like he could use them and then just kick them aside. i wouldn't have had the opportunities i have today had my dad dealt with people like that when he was running his ironworking shop. the last thing i'll say before i bring up hillary clinton. there's 46 states and four commonwealths. once when i was lieutenant governor i was at a school and talked to a student about your age, young lady, standing right in front of me. i was standing in a classroom

and a littleirl asked me, why are we a commonwealth and everybody else is states. i did what every good politician doesn't know the answer and makes something else. i said commonwealth, it's got to be about the common bringing everybody together. in pennsylvania you have the boldness to say that's how you want to be known and in virginia that's what we say. that's our value. the wealth we hold we hold in common. those are the values hillary holds too. one last thing and then i'll bring up the past president. i'll boil it down to this. johnstown, pennsylvania, do you want your hired president or you're fired president. i don't think it could be any

simpler. we've got a you're hired president in hillary clinton. i'm so proud to be her running mate and i'm so glad to bring her up. give her a round. >> i'm glad i told tim kaine you're hired because you just got a great look at why the people of the commonwealth of virginia keep promoting him. he started off on the city council of richmond, went on to become mayor of his hometown, got elected lieutenant governor, then governor, and now united states senator. because he's someone who really instills confidence in those whom he serves. and as america gets to know him, that's exactly what i think will happen as well. we've had an incredible week here in pennsylvania. i can't tell you how much i loved being here.

some of you may know my father was from scranton, my grandfather came as a small child from england, imglamt with his family. he worked in the scranton lace mills, a factory his entire life because he believe head could produce a better life for his children, and he did. and e'er time i come to pennsylvania i think about the ma journeys we made from where we lived outside of chicago to scrant scranton. every single year. we would go every summer. we went some christmases. i was brought back as were my brothers to be crisped in the little court street methodist church. we really have a dprt deal of love and affection for pennsylvania. my father plus one of my brothers played football at penn

state. so it's always a joy for me to be here and to come to johnstown, a place i've been to before and look forward to coming back and being here and having this opportunity to come and visit with you. i want to thank ron and jim for welcoming us. nick, thank you for explaining some of the work you do and telling us that nick was a marine at camp david when bill was president. and we actually met him in his prior life. so that was a very special treat i want to thank my friend leo gerard, a man who has fought for justice, working families in

america and north america and set as great example as does this company where business and labor work together. and ron and jim told me about something called gain share where when you get more productive, don't have as much scrap, those gains are shared. that's what i believe we ought to be doing in every single business in our country. so on thursday i was incredibly humbled and grateful to accept the democratic party nomination. i have to tell you it was pretty overwhelming to be out there and to be given the awesome responsibility of taking on the challenges of our country, but i'm an optimist and i'm confident because i think if you

look at american history, that's how we get things done. it's not the whiners and the complainers and the insulters who move our country forward. it's the workers and the builders. it's people who get up every day and try to figure out how it's going to be better for them and their families. so then yesterday item and i and anne and bill hit the road going across pennsylvania. sorry we were a little late. the rain was a little heavy and we have kind of a long convoy, so i apologize for that. but we are visiting places that prove what americans can do. we're the most productive competitive workers in the world. we just need to give our people the chance to succeed. so from philadelphia to hatfield to harrisburg and now here in johnstown, that's exactly what we're doing. we're talking to people, meeting people who have each other's backs. and you truly are the reason why i have so much confidence that

america's best days are still ahead of us. so it's in stark contrast to the vision that donald trump is laying out because i don't think we're weak. i don't think we're in decline. i think we can pull together because we are stronger together, and if anybody like him spent a day on the factory floor here, they'd see what teamwork looks like. they'd understand what it means to create and build. every day you are showing america is home to the best products, hardest worker, most innovative entrepreneurs in the world, and so as we are honest about our challenges here at home and abroad, let's start

from understanding that this country and our people have what it takes to get ahead and stay ahead if we have the leadership that gives us that chance. and most of all we know better than to believe anyone who says i alone can fix it. right? those were actually donald trump's words at the republican convention in cleveland last week, and i think they should set off alarm bells for everybody because by saying that, he's forgetting what all the rest of us do every day. he's forgetting our troops on the front lines, our businesses who see possibilities in every problem, our unions who fight for working families every day.

he's forgetting companies like this one who invest in employees. americans don't say i alone can fix this. we say how do we build a business, heal a country, lift a country. that's why we have to stand together. my grandfather, as i said, worked at the scranton lace mills from the time he was a teenager until the time he retired at age 65. it was dangerous work in those days. but he was one of the kindest and gentlest men i had every known. he knew that hard work in america meant that his family would get ahead, that it would pay off. and he was right. my dad as i said made it to college, made it to penn state. now, if he were still alive, he would tell you it was because he played football. but that's okay. he got an education. he was proud to get it. he started working as a

salesman, enlisted in the navy after pearl harbor, and when the war was over, he started his own small business, printing fabric for draperies. and it was a really small business. he would recruit my mother and brothers and me. he had a print plant. it didn't have any natural light. it was a pretty dark place. but it had long tables and the fabric would be rolled out and the silk screens would be laid on the fabric and the paint you wanted on the fabric would be pours on the silk screen and we would take a squeegee, one person on one side, another person on the other side, sometimes me, we would take the squeegee and roll it. you'd have to have the exact same pressure, lift it up, move down the screen and keep going. i remember my dad watching us do it. why didn't he do it. he wanted to give my brothers

and i opportunities. and he had. believe every single american in family deserves that same chance in 2016. you know, i know we're living in a time of hot politics. people say all kinds of things, hateful things, insulting things. i'm sorry about that. i think we should have a much better dialogue and debate so voters can decide which way they want to go, and sometimes because of all of the static going back and forth, we lose track of where we are. we've come a long way since the worst financial crisis in a generation, and it could have gotten a whole lot worse, my friends. when i think back to 2008, i was

in the senate before i accepted president elect obama's offer to become secretary of state. millions lost their jobs. 5 million lost their homes. it's fair to say, we did not know where the bottom was. unemployment, over 10%. stockmarket down to 7,000. this was one of the riskest economic moments in our country's recent history, and i will say it. i don't think president obama and vice president biden get the credit they deserve for doing what they had to do to save our economy. and one thing they saved and they saved it over the opposition of the republican party, they saved the american auto industry, which is a big

customer of this plant. i found that debate back then just unbelievable. people saying, giving speeches, let the american auto industry just fall. millions of jobs were at stake. many millions more, families of the people who worked in the american auto industry. and i'm proud that it was saved, and i'm even prouder that it's had the best year it's had in a long time last year on behalf of selling american made automobiles. so that's progress. and i just want people as we go into this election to be fair because, yes, we do have work to do. we can't be satisfied with the status quo. i'm not. not by a long shot.

we're still facing deep seated problems that have developed that have stayed with us through the recovery. but let's be fair and let's be clear about where we've come from and where we need to go. and let's not buy the same failed economic policies that got us into the mess we were in in the first place. you know that old saying, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. when people come around and say they're going to cut taxes on the wealthiest americans, we have seen this before and it does not turn out well, and it's about time we say, no, we're going to make the wealthiest americans for a change pay their fair share of taxes and support

america. oo that's why i've gone around the country talking to working families across america and i've heard all the concerns people that, you know, the economy isn't working the way it needs to. too many people feel like they're out on their own, no one has their back. well, i can tell you that tim kaine and i will get up every single day. we will fight for you, we will work for you. we will look out for you. how do you know that? because i've actually told you what i want to do. i'm not standing here insulting my opponent and making crazy promises. i'm telling you what i want to do. i actually have plans. some people make fun of me for having plans. yeah, i know. it used to hurt my feelings. it doesn't anymore.

you know, at each of our c conventio conventions, you get four days to tell them what you're supposed to do. at the republican convention they spent more time on insults for me than for jobs for you. donald trump spoke for 75 minutes and offered zero solutions. now, i don't think that's good enough. i have this old-fashioned idea if you're going to ask somebody for their vote, we owe you a clear explanation of what you're going to get for it. and i have said from the beginning of this campaign, my mission from my first day to my last will be to create more opportunity and more good wages that will give people a chance at their own dreams. we're going to create jobs in pennsylvania and across america especially in places that have been left out and left behind.

and that means from our inner cities to our small towns to indian country to coal country to communities ravaged by addiction like too many in this county. i believe with all my heart the economy should work not just from the top. leo knows when i had the privilege to work with him, stand up with steelworkers, to start the ffrt manufacturing caucus in the united states senate. i had no idea then that i was going to run for president. what i cared about was i had lots of great people in new york who saw their jobs leave, who lost them to automation and technology, who were the victims of efforts to bust unions and

undercut fair wages and benefits. so what i wanted to do was make it clear that in america we're going to keep making things. anybody willing to work hard should be able to find a job that pace enough to support a family. that's the basic bargain of america. so here's how we're going to do it. within the first 100 days of our administration, we are going to break the gridlock in washington and make the biggest investment in new good paying jobs since world war ii. we will start by making the boldest investment in american infrastructure since we built the interstate highway system back in the 1950s. now, donald trump may think we never win anymore and our country is full of losers, but, boy, is he wrong. we still do big things and we

can do more big things. we're not going to build a giant wall. we're going to build bridges and tunnels and ports and water systems and a new electric grid, and we're going to connect up all of america to high-speed internet connectivity. you know yesterday night in harrisburg we had a great rally at the broad street market if any of you know that. we were outdoors, a beautiful night, and i said, you know, i'm not just talking about traditional infrastructure. i'm talking about broad band, virtual infrastructure, electricity. and i made a point that some teachers told me. there had been a recent survey. 70% of teachers said that they assign homework that requires the student to go on the internet. well, you know, that makes sense. if you're going to live in an information age, you want your

kids to be prepare and smart and savvy to use the internet. but here's the kicker. 5 million kids in america don't have access at home to high-speed internet. and then i was talking toed some of the people who were there after the rally and they said, boy, were you right. we have places in pennsylvania where it's still dial-up. i mean how are we supposed to be competitive in the rest of the world if we have smart hard-working people in businesses, kids essentially shed out from being able to access information quickly and use that information. so we're talking broadly here, and i'm going to do everything i can to create a national infrastructure bank so that we're going have investments made every year, not just when congress decides to appropriate money for that. the second thing we're going to do is invest in american

manufacturing. anybody who thinks we can't make it to pennsylvania and do a tour as i have, you know, the products that you're making here in the commonwealth are sold all over the world including products made right here. ron and jim were telling me about a big order you have from bangladesh. we can export. donald trump, you hear him. he talks a big game about putting america first. well, with all due respect, please explain to me what part of america first leads trump to make trump dress shirts in bangladesh, not ashland, pennsylvania? or to make trump furniture in turkey, not freeburg pennsylvania.

in fact, my husband told me on the bus ride here and i was telling him i find it so maddening that trump goes around saying this and all the stuff he makes he makes in other countries. bill said, you know, this shirt he has on right now, that's made in reading, pennsylvania. and, look. you're not going to believe this because it just sounds too coincidental. it's made at a company called bill's. so donald trump says he wants to make america great again. he can start by actually making things in america ain. now, if we're serious about investing in american manufacturing, we have to be serious about defending american workers, and that means we've got to defend the right to

organize and bargain collectively which help to build the american middle class in the first place. that's why i love coming to plants like this that work business and labor together. but that's not donald trump. he actually hires union busting firms to break up organizing campaigns. he did that at the hotel he built in las vegas. and then he says he wants to do to america what he's done to his businesses. we can't let that happen. we're going to fight back against attacks on working families, against assaults on the right to org nice and bargain collectively. right to work is wrong for workers and it's wrong for america. and we're going to say no to unfair trade deals. we're going to stand up to china, support our steelworkers,

autoworkers, home grown manufacturers. i feel strongly about this and i need your help. i need your ideas about how we're going to do this because i'm sick and tired of us having an open market where everybody gets to sell to us and they often do it at lower costs, undercutting our workers, our businesses. that's not fair and it's not right. now, we've won a few cases, haven't we, leo, on the international trade commission. but we're going to go after that much more aggressively. i'll be the first pretty who has what i'm calling a trade prosecutor to prosecute cases that are undercutting and hurting american manufacturers. third, we're going to make america the clean energy super power of the 21st century because there are millions of new jobs and businesses, and pennsylvania's doing some good work. we owe it to future generations

to work together to combat climate change, not dismiss it as a chinese hoax the way donald trump has. i love this. he dismisses it as a chinese hoax when he's standing on the stage running for president and then he goes and asks for help because he's worried about some of his golf courses that are maybe going to be hurt by climate challenge. i mean that's hard to believe but we've got to take it for what it is. there are no other donald trumps. we have to look at both sides here. we're going to set goals, install half a million solar panels and power homes with clean energy over the next ten years and we're going to create more good paying jobs, clean energy jobs like the ones being created here in pennsylvania. fourth, we're going to support small businesses like the one that my dad and tim's dad ran, put their hearts and souls into them when we were growing up. and it's important for you to know this.

just as tim told you, we don't make this up. you know, we actually try to tell you what is factually accurate. we go through a lot of trouble to tell you what is actually happen, not just pull it from the air. just a few hours away in atlantic city, yu oar going find a lot of hard-working contractors, small businesses, workers, painters, plumbers who lost everything because donald trump refused to pay his bills. we've been meeting some of these people, painters, landscapers, plumbers, glass installers, marble installers, people who did the work and deserve to be paid and didn't get it. not because he couldn't pay them but because he wouldn't pay them. that's just not the way it works in america, donald. in america we make good on our promises, and when somebody putting in the work, you are supposed to pay them.

you can't go around bullying small businesses like the one tim's dad did or my father. if my father had done all the work to print those draperies for businesses and he used to load them in the van and deliver them and put them up, if after all that work donald trump had said, we're not going to pay you, my father, first of all, would have been stunned, and then he would have been furious. but what could he have done? trump would have said, well, you don't like it, sue me, otherwise take 30 cents on the dollar. that is so wrong it just gets my blood boiling. i think about my dad. i'm sure timothys about his. small businesspeople who did not deserve to be treated like that. 98% of small businesses in pennsylvania are small businesses.

creating jobs, strengthening kmulkts. when you hurt small businesses, you're hurting our economy. it's time to give small businesses a boost. cut the red tape. give people credit. way too many dreams die in the parking lots of banks these days, and we're going to change that too. so it's really simple. in america if you can dream it, you should be able to build. i will tell you how we're going to pay for everything i just proposed. that's not complicated either. wall street, corporations and the super rich are going to start paying their fair taxes. secretary clinton as well as senator kaine buy her side as they make a stop in johnstown, pennsylvania, this part of the rust belt as you've been listening to them for about 30 minutes. they're about a half hour behind

schedule. they make manufactured wire there. they're going through some of the foci, focuses if you will that she's trying to get out as she reaches out to those blue collar workers that have been so much talked about and hitting so many of those notes that she believes needs to be made hitting on manufacturing, clean energy, and other points being made there at johnstown, pennsylvania is kasie hunt. she's been with the clinton campaign watching them and listening to them. kas kasie, she's there. she seems to be hitting those directly at the plant. >> reporter: that's right, richard. yes, mitromney won this county last time around, this is the kind of place in america that used to be solidly democratic

because it used to be full of union workers and the reality is the economy has shifted out from underneath people here and i think all of the angst that's been driving donald trump's campaign all the way along is on sharp display in a place like this and that's why hillary clinton is here. that's why she's talking about right to work, opposing right to work, strengthening unions, i thinks along those lines. the reality is, i was just talking to a couple of local politicians here, the sense is that especially rural voters who used to vote democratic are now voting republican. this is one of the most closely watched house districts in pennsylvania we've been watching for a while. it was a swing district until 2012 when it flipped to republican. so this is an area that's kind of on the forefront of the cultural change that we're seeing animate so many people in this country. so the challenge for hillary

clinton is trying to make sure she focuses on those voters, and donald trump's campaign, we're learning, is focusing increasingly on ohio and pennsylvania as they try to find what seems like a pretty narrow path to 270 electoral votes. hillary clinton is going to try through her bus tour and in pennsylvania and later apaurjtsly stop in pittsburgh and then eastern ohio where a lot of the political geography is very similar, although ohio itself has been more similar in presidential elections. richard. >> kasie hunt in johnstown. it's going to be a longer day. thank you for being there. i want to bring in susan del percio, delano clint and also jas jason. let's start with you here, susan. we heard the message she's been

giving. she has a challenge with blue collar voerts and a challenge as mentioned by kasie hunt. how did she do in term os testify points that she was making? >> she's doing everything that she can and has to to win back voters. these are union workers going to donald trump because they're frustrated with not having jobs. certainly trade is another issue. >> she did touch on. >> she did touch on. and i think the idea of just bringing america forward, we can do these things here. we can have jobs here. and frankly i think when she brings donald trump into it saying he make things overseas, that puts a point on it. >> that fine point, eleanor, as she turned around and alluded to her husband's shirt, bill's shirt, it was the former president's shirt, she was really making that point without saying it, bringing up donald trump and his truisms if you

will of putting out there where his cloektss are made and he's all for american workers. >> yes. personalizing the criticism, putting a face on it or in this case putting a shirt on it is very effective, and the voters that she's now speaking to, they were clinton democrats in 1992. so she's going to try to bring them back home and make them clinton democrats once again. the democrats have struggled in many elections. they have the leadership of the labor movement burke they often do not have as much of the rank and file because frankly the policies that have been enacted in washington pushed by both republicans and democrats have left this segment of america bhiechbltd i thought she did very well being specific about the policies that she wants to lay out, and i think she said that she was a member of the first ever manufacturing caucus when she was in the senate. that was news to me. >> didn't know there was one

there, eleanor. >> i didn't know there was one, exactly. >> jason, we'll get your thoughts on how the secretary did here. what did you think of her tone, her delivery, the points that she was making. >> you know, there was the squeegee story, for instance, that wrouts her, if you will, down to the factory floor. >> yeah. i think hillary clinton has finally learned a lesson on how to speak to people instead of at people. she had a tendency to lecture at people in 2008. she's kind of mastered that. the clintons know that you can communicate with people by saying, look, i'm not just for america, i wear america, i eat, sleep, and breathe america, and by sort of needling donald trump on that, showing the inconsistency showing he's saying one thing but i'm here doing another, that's the message she has to get out here.

she'll never beat him on personality but she can beat him with the heart. >> stay with us. one that is trending, donald trump is off the campaign trail this weekend but he's not out of the headlines, he's reacted for the first time to khizr khan who spoke yesterday. take a listen. >> if you look at his wife, she didn't have nothing to say. maybe she wasn't allowed to say anything, you tell me. >> what would you say to that? >> i would say we've had a lot of problems with problem islamic terrorism. >> he said you sacrificed nothing and no one. >> who wrote that? >> how would you sacrifice that? what sacrifice have you made for your country? >> i think i made a lot of sacrifices. i've worked very, very hard,

created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs. >> those are sacrifices? >> oh, sure, i this i that ier sacrifices. >> jason, how did donald trump do innances what was such an emotion ale moment for the country as we saw the father look back at the loss of his own son? did he say what he kneaded to say here? >> richard, he can't help but be racist. it's so amazing. you know, i don't think the wife's guy could speak because you know how those people are. the first thing he did was making cult trul dog whistle attack as opposed to saying i appreciate that man's sacrifice, these aren't the muslims we're talking about. donald trump completely fumbled this answer, but then again he's been able to stay close in the polls by having this kind of lesson. but that was a terrible answer and reinforces the negative

stereotypes and attitudes that ee making it hard for him to work with my nortss. >> i'll get to eleanor but first i want to play sound, in saying that the wife as you alluded to here jason was not allowed to speed. let's go to the dnc. last night the wife did speak out and this is what she said. >> it was very nervous because i cannot see my son's picture and i cannot even come in the room where his pictures are. that's why when i saw the picture on my back i couldn't take it. i controlled myself at that time. it is very hard. >> eleanor, clearly the pain still there. when you put that up against what donald trump was telling george stephanopoulos, there is no equal sign there.

>> no. the message sent, and i believe received when that couple appeared on the stage in philadelphia, was that you can wear a hijab in this country and be a patriot american and second when donald trump said the speech writers just wrote it undermining what was so clearly this man's personal pain and passion, i think it's pretty despicable on mr. trump's part. >> and i do want to get to that shortly. but, susan, we're talking about a u.s. soldier that lost his life. and we put that on that backdrop. you know, donald trump could have handled this much more easily. >> and it's in his nature to. and one of the things donald trump has going for him on the softer side is his family, is his children and that relationship they have,plus, he's had a very good relationship with veterans. all he had to say is there is no

greater service. there was nothing -- that's the greatest sacrifice anyone can make and when asked about what sacrifices he could make, you could simply say i've been blessed with wonderful children, they're here with me, i could never compare any loss to them. it could have been easy. >> jason, i want to get to this. it with us brought up by eleanor. khan telling the new york time this. the campaign asked whether he needed speech writing -- if we look at the response instead of going after the message whether it was rile reel or genuine o, stoichbd saying it was very difficult or good to hear the sacrifice made or the emotion in the family, again, that contrast. >> but, yes, that's classic donald trump. his reaction to everything is

something's not right here, i don't like president obama's body language. he constantly sort of throws invections and insults rather than addressing the substance of what they're saying. >> eleanor, how long will this last? how long will they maybe push or not push this response that donald trump put out in the last day? >> oh, i think that these responses on his part will echo. i was thinking mr. trump could use a speech writer in drafting his response to this but i don't want him to have a speech writer because i think we want to see who he is and what he's about and i going to quote hillary clinton. this is the real donald trump. there is no other donald trump, so we've got to get used to it or do something about it. >> and let's face it. it will probably stay in the headlines until the next donald trump rally. he'll say something else. >> whatever the next trumpism

might be. >> exactly. >> thank you so much. thank you all three. next, why some democrats think donald trump should not receive the national presidential briefings that some traditional by get. and breaking news in texas where 16 people are believed dead in a hot air balloon crash. we'll have much more on the story after the break. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue. amazing is over twenty-seven thousand of them. there's only one place where real and amazing live. book a seaworld vacation package and eat free. legalzoom has your back. for your business, our trusted network of attorneys has provided guidance to over 100,000 people just like you. visit legalzoom today. the legal help you can count on. legalzoom. legal help is here.

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receive these briefings. is he unfit? >> well, i mean these briefings are really looking at high-level threats to the united states. it's about preparing candidates to be able to deal on the campaign trail. when the american public svelting them and the public makes those decisions, i think the director of national intelligence, general clapper said that specifically. you don't need to have a security clearance to get the briefings. it's about preparing these candidates. >> there's a criticism coming from the right on hillary clinton say sheg should not receive these briefing because she is unfit. >> i guess it's the exact same response, right? >> right. >> secretary clinton very well aware of the security landscape. i think a lot of issues that would be briefed arishes she's likely dealt with. it's talking about geopolitical issues, leaders, terrorist threats, foreign states, et cetera. >> one or two briefings typically happen before the election. what is it? what is that laundry list, john?

>> it is about what the most significant risks are to the united states. where are the hot spots, who are the key leader, who can you expect to engage with after you become president of the united states of america. but for the candidates, it really is about them getting a broad understanding and being able to answer the questions because the public is going to ask. these are the questions that will come up during the debates. >> how is it monitored? this hasn't been an issue historical historically, right? who watches and what have they been watching for? >> i think what they say is covered by the media very, very closely, i think wither that to become an issue there would be a certain discussion that would occur, but the -- again, courtesy of the president, they can be stopped at any time, nobody can s required to have those. >> fake details or unreal details, that's been talked about might be given out or considered so we don't have that risk of it being leaked? >> i think that's somewhat silly.

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welcome back. one single tweet on day one set off a firestorm. you remember this. it generated headlines around the world suggesting that melania trump plagiarize ed michelle obama from 2008. they generated 27.9 million. they generated more likes posts

and comments and shares. 182 million all sid. for a look at some of the most popular hash tags, how they sparked news and talks, jason johnson rejoins us. those are some of the high-level numbers. you've been studying the delegates because you obviously have a life. who won at the end the twitter battle. we're juk talk about about facebook. i would s . >> i would say it's d democratic side. they followed every single delegate who had a twig iraccount and it was interesting to see you had more republicans with twitter accounts. their most active were in arizona but it was the democrats who produced more over and over and over again and it was mostly the bernie sanders people. >> no doubt, that's consistent with the primaries, right? >> yes. >> if you were looking a that stuff, what were some of the hot topics? >> of course ted cruz and how

people felt about him. also on the democratic side it wasn't bernie sanders. it's nina turner. very popular, on msnbc all the time and former state senator. her anger, refusal to go along with the democratic party drew more. >> nina does bring some fire, doesn't she? >> yes, she does. >> she does. we know her well. some insider news that popped out. that often is a source or initial indication for us news folks looking on twitter and somebody let somethings out. >> some of the things that came out, part of why nina turner ended up having a lesser role in the democratic convention is because she was trending online. dnc officials said, we're not going to let that happen. a lot of the responsibilities went to marsha fudge. after what happened with debbie wasserman schultz, they were not going to let her get on stage and possibly attack or criticize hillary clinton, let alone be on

social media. >> how are the messages dlejed on social media, twitter, and facebook and which of the platforms was the better place do that if you were either a democrat, you know, running the convention or a republican running their convention. >> well, for the republicans it was facebook in large part because republicans tend to be whiter and older and the fattest group are married women over the age of 50 so facebook was a better way to communicate. for the democratic party, it was twitter, they move faster, more young people, people who are involved. here's what's interesting. everything on twitter gets picked up by the news and gets filtered to my brother who's 45 who's not even on twitter. the more you twitter, the more it ends up on tv. >> let's talk about snapchat. it seems to be the place if you

want to reach young voerts and are pfr for these live events. >> first your snaps are going to be for 24 hours. it gives them the feeling they're getting a ticket to an event that ee for a short period of time. snapchat has been around for five years. it premiered in 2011. >> we talk about every cycle. this is the social media election. we can look back at 2008 and said that about that election. how is this the social media election? >> i think we've seen it in several ways. periscope, we've got bernie sanders on snapchat and donald trump through twitter. that has become the election. come 2020 we'll say something different but this is the electioning where they dominate what's being said.

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