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>> i have been saying -- i have been saying let's just beat her in november. you know what? no. no. you know what? i'm starting to agree with her. everyone screams lock her up. i have been flies. after watching the performance lasting night i don't have to be nice anymore. i'm taking the gloves you have off. yes? take the gloves off. trump will be no more mr. nice guy. >> this week showed that the democratic party has undergone a seism seismic. an upbeat optimism about the country. let's listen. >> we are clear eyed about what
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our country is up against. we are not afraid. we will rise to the challenge just as we always have. >> well, secretary clinton and tim kaine took that message to the people to the folks in western pennsylvania. some of the hardest hit by the recession and kept up the optimistic theme of the week in philly. >> it was like a twisted and negative tour. it wasn't a tour of this country. it was a journey through donald trump's mind. that is a very frightens place. >> donald trump painted a negative dark, devicive picture of a country in decline. >> i'm not telling you everything is peachy keen. i'm telling you we have work to
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do if we are going to make sure everybody is included. >> isn't it great the words they are using? peachy keen and malarky. i can see the world passing right by you, casey. >> reporter: you can. we are in your native pennsylvania. we just stopped in hatfield. it is where they make lincoln logs. this is, as you said, about white working class voters, particularly men who have broken for donald trump lately in polling. democrats knowledge privately that pennsylvania is up for grabs than it has been. there is a risk for her in letting the state go. of course you know well that eastern ohio is similar terrain.
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this will take us through harrisburg, pittsburgh, youngstown, cleveland, columbus. they are places that are -- frankly their economies have been structurally changed. so the pitch here from him ri clinton, she has to be careful to knowledge the pain all of these people are feeling. the message is more optimist k. she is visit sizing trump for being dark about the future of the country and that's what we have seen here on the trail. she is out with tim kaine. i will be interested to hear your take on that. >> when i look -- i can usually tell the difference between a political smile and a real one.
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they all have these political smiles. she hears it as a fresh new political alean that she has not heard before. sh is great. you know? she has heard all of the political malarky. i haven't used that in years. what is the other one i heard? peachy keen. >> yes. >> this is the '50s. >> i haven't heard malarky in a while either. they are at ease with each other. it was interesting to see tell sitting on the corner of the stage. we saw bill clinton really sbrsing optics to see if they win the white house, bill clinton as the first gentleman!
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guess who road along out of new york in 1992? guess who was riding with him and interviewing him? me. >> reporter: i'm sure it was much better. >> it was clinton and gore in waco, texas. thank you for the lively report. here is robert costa. thank you. i am always try to ing to figuru out. you always talk to concerned radio listeners. where are you? i was overwhelmed by the manifest patriotism. i have never seen such a display. >> i am relieved. >> go ahead.
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>> at the start of the two weeks i didn't know where we would be. it turned out to be the peak. i thought clinton gave a lumbering speech and then comes the news her campaign has been hacked. i think trump is feeling good about winning the ratings. >> and i think the father and mother were the hit of the campaign so far. >> yes. very emotional and very connecting. they connected in the way that very few people could connect. i don't think it changes votes. i think when you give the hillary speech she is saying listen to what i say. don't listen to what i did in libya, syria, iraq.
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don't look at my server. listen to my words. i don't think it will last long. i don't think it will be much for hillary clinton. >> you're a rough talker. >> i didn't think it was a great speech from hillary clinton. is there a theory about why she gave a plane speaking? lets put it this way. it was plain speaking yesterday. do you know if there's reason why she gave such plain-spoken talk yesterday? >> most i talked to yesterday, they are not framing it as plain spoken. they talked about the delivery of something to directly appeal to the moderate republicans,
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independants independe independen independents. what clinton wanted to do is project sta project steadiness. >> it wasn't meant to be flowery, right? >> yes. there is also that flowery rhetoric has never been her style. for someone who has long before questioned it was a speech that hillary clinton, who she is. it was seasoned and elected politics and presenting herself in that way. >> as you might expect donald trump didn't like the speech. he is dumping over hillary clinton's speech of last night. >> i watched last night. i watched hillary clinton. what a sad situation.
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by the way, they will let some of these people meander in. too bad. i watched her last night giving a speech that was so average. >> let's try to get theme of the country. this is my question. i think they got it wrong. i think everything the democratic convention was beautifully, everything from tell vags and the whole tone to the character witnessing to the beautiful speech given by barack obama on wednesday. the closing argument by the former secretary of state, all of that was very well put together. yet i think they missed on one truth. i don't think is country is afraid. i think it's angry.
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i think they made a decision not to address anger and grieve answer. why did they choose we have nothing to fear but fear itself? >> well, the clintons represent that. there are two big experiments. the democrats will try to transfer the passion of the bernie people to clinton. they will try to transfer love and affection for -- >> but that's anger. >> they are trying to transplant economic populism into the party of reagan and paul ryan. they have got the anti rejection drug but they both big risks. i don't think you can get
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hillary to transfer over the bernie passion or obama love. she is competent. that is her record. >> thank you. >> coming up now that the conventions are over it's a print to november. can clinton compare the northern industrial states? it could be the key to the whole election. our strategists are coming up here next. this is hardball, the place for politics. and these are the lungs. (boy) sorry. (dad) don't worry about it. (vo) at our house, we need things that are built to last. that's why we got a subaru. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. if legalzoom has your back.s, over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started.
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hillary clinton and tim kaine looking to sell the economic message clinton laid out in her speech late last night. here it is. >> we will work with both parties to pass the biggest investment and new good-paying jobs since world war ii. we are not only -- we are not only going to make all of these investments, we are going to pay for every single one of them. here is how. wall street, corporations and
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the super rich are going to start paying their fair share of taxes. >> well, a poll yesterday shows clinton with a nine-point lead in pennsylvania. we'll see if it is in line with other states. the latest poll out of ohio shows the race tied there at 45%. so ordinarily trump has got to win ohio and then pennsylvania. trump has to pick up one -- joining me are steve mcman. let's try to be analytical here. john, it seems to me the trump has to hold arizona, north carolina and he has to begin to pick up ohio. pennsylvania and work his way into florida or into michigan and wisconsin.
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>> i think it's absolutely right. he has to win everything woman rom a romney won. so you start there. second of all you look at it and say he can win colorado, nevada, new hampshire. it's really hard. ohio obviously he has to win. i think he has to win pennsylvania and florida. i don't know how you get there. maybe wisconsin. >> and hold what he has got. >> right. >> and i'm sorry, what the republicans had, hold arizona and north carolina, which are tricky and begin to pick up a state. they always need ohio. and then pennsylvania and jump down and try to hold florida with all of the diversity down there. >> i think that's the right path. >> let's go to the deal breaker, the necessary if not -- how does
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a guy who has run against mexicans pretty much smeared him, get doe minute -- puerto rico -- >> the paradox is i believe it comes down to two things. in states like pennsylvania he has to win sons and daughters of reagan democrats. >> they are great people but very unhappy with the democratic party right now. >> yes. but he a also has to get moderate republican women who are college-educated who romney won. that is a bigger lift. >> and women who may not vote the same as their husbands. >> right. >> you can see the family husband and wife go to vote and
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waste the gas because they are voting against each other. i can imagine a guy sharing some of this attitude and the woman saying this guy on gays but other issues, he is just bad. >> and that's some of the -- >> and you and i all know this. when you're talking about race you're not talking about how it effects minorities, there are certain whites who may be very conserve tif conservatives and cannot stand being seen as racist. >> and you add that the clinton campaign, our children are watching. >> obviously. >> and the who will probably determine the outcome saying that is exactly right. >> making fun of the guy with the handicap. either learning disabilities or
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handicaps. >> neighbors with kids like that with problems -- but kids with autism and things like that, everybody has that health problem with kids in their neighborhood and they don't think it's funny. >> and when you say that's not the kind of country we are and that's not the kind of country we want to be, people agree with it. one of the things trump is doing now, he is sort of doubling down and he is appealing -- >> lock her up. >> hillary clinton and barack obama are reaching across the middle. >> this is something -- can they grab republicans? >> i don't think so. i was watching her speech last night. it's i'm not just progress ifr i more progressive. you in the middle, i'm with you too. >> and let me take a look. we had a new poll tonight. it has clinton with a five-point
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vanl. that's her bump. >> yes. if you look at this race it's under -- >> it's not going to last. >> it probably will last. it should be about a five or six point advantage. trump sort of moved a little bit. >> even if he had putin against hillary -- >> wait a minute. >> she is the incouple wain thi. if she stays down around 40 and she hovers there at some point she will pick up. >> so undecided means trump? >> i think so. >> now big will be the total vote come election day? >> 7. >> i think it will be closer to
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about 5. >> i think it will be one of those races people will be dying to make a decision. i want to be with hillary. i want to be with trump. >> i go with what he says. if i were hillary people i would say we don't want people voting for joe stein, period. it is all our votes. half of the votes going to gary johnson could be democrats. >> and one of the problems is if you don't have the third or fourth line in there you don't have a poll that will reflect the ballot. >> i like when you guys agree. it means there may be real truth there. >> thank you. that's hardball for now. join us monday niechlgt your business with j.j. is up next. nobody really believes that i take notes this way, but they actually make sense to me.
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