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on those to repudiate their nominee. >> he had promised them to mend his ways, divisive ways, harmful way, hurtful manner and policies, yet, he comes back again on the same thing. it is majority leaders and speaker's obligation not really about the votes but repudiate them and withdraw support. >> the house speaker for ryan said the speaker has made clear many times that he rejects this idea and himself has talked about how muslim americans made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. no reaction from mitch mcconnell. trump is questioning mrs. khan's silence in an interview this morning. >> she was very emotional and probably looked like a nice guy to me. his wife, if you look at his
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wife, she was standing there. she had nothing to say. she probably -- maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say, you tell me. plenty of people have written that. >> mr. khan told "the washington post" trump's comment about his wife is quote typical of a person without a soul. new reaction from hillary clinton after being nominated a few days ago. >> the kind of inflammatory answers that trump provides, blame immigrants, blame women, blame somebody is attractive in the first instance to people looking for answers but what i'm counting on and believe, he's offered nothing to help people. >> katy tur is following the trump campaign and joins me now. what more is the campaign saying about this scuffle with the khan family? >> had donald trump tweet this morning saying that mr. khan's
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son was a war hero but this is really about radical islamic terrorists. they are not backing off or trying to apologize for it they are trying to spin it and change it to radical islam terror. they are saying hillary clinton is at faults for the rise in that and link her actions with why mr. khan's son died while serving overseas. he died from an ied. now whether this is going to work we'll have to wait and see. the judge's comments stuck with him, he could not respond because he's a federal judge that isn't allowed to get into the matters. a federal judge still overseeing one of donald trump's case. the khan's on the other hand can both come out and rail on this over and over again and continue to bring the subject up and
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shine a spotlight on it and continue to try and put a human face on donald trump's rhetoric, which is the idea that muslims should be banned for at least a temporary period of time and muslims are the problem because they are not talking, ratting out essentially other muslims plotting against americans or western civilizations overseas. the khans are saying this isn't a muslim problem but a terrorism problem. this is not a religious problem, this is something happening even in the middle east where people are affect in greater numbers. isis is not only terrorizing western civilization but the middle east and people that do not believe as extremely as they believe. >> so my question is you talk about the statement. i'm not sure i get the connection between what radical islamic terrorism has to do with what donald trump said about mrs. khan staying silent.
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i mean, is it just me or is there no connection between the two? >> i don't know what the connection is between those two things. donald trump, as you know, said in multiple interviews that he basically was questioning why she, mrs. khan stood next to her husband and didn't say anything at the convention and tried to insinuate that she could not say anything because in islamic culture and muslim tradition, women are for some reason not allowed to speak. he was trying to say they are lesser than the men in that culture and by doing so, he outraged not only muslim groups but a number of people in this country that do not believe it is correct or fair to go after the wife of somebody who may have been -- may not have been speaking because she didn't want to speak or maybe it was too hard for her to speak, which is what she said. >> he goes on the attack and a lot of people questioned his temperament. matter of fact, he addressed
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that in the morning talk shows. >> he did. >> let's take a look what he had to say about that. >> she's a very dishonest person. she has a bad temperament. she's weak. i have a strong temperament. >> polls show concern about this that whether you can be trusted with the nuclear codes. >> i think that's probably because hillary, that's all they talk about is temperament. i think i have a great temperament. >> he says he has a great temperament. the issue right now is he's about to get national security briefings and he and hillary clinton are trying to paint the other as somebody that should not be allowed to get these. i mean, it's becoming just another one of the politicized top picks during the campaign trail. i spoke to a number of people last week after donald trump was questioned to ties to russia and why russia might want to help his canadidacy and why they migt help facilitate the hacking and then the leaking of those to
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affect a political -- the politics in the country and a lot of people behind the scenes were expressing two things, one maybe when donald trump sees security briefings, he'll tone it down. maybe it will change rhetoric and see the fuller picture and understand some of his rhetoric is not so helpful. some of what he says on the campaign trail. given how loose he is with facts and information that he might not just off the cuff say something that he should not be saying. >> it is a valid concern, i think for a lot of reasons but we'll see what happens as a result of that. katy tur, thank you so much. let's get to nbc's casey hunt traveling with the clinton campaign and i think she's still on the bus heading to columbus, where are you, near chesterville, casey? >> reporter: i think so. it's been a lot of hours on this bus.
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we'll get to columbus, which is the final stop here in a little while and this bus tour we've been on essentially is through the part of america that will send trump to the white house if he's able to win the white house. if he's going to win, it's going to be here and that's why hillary clinton came here out of her convention. these are the blue color, white working class voters that we've talked so much about what are voting for trump. some voted for barack obama twice, 2008 and 2012 and mitt romney maebl had trouble speaking to because the democrats painted him as a rich, out of touch person. trump has been described as a blue collar billionaire that managed to appeal to these people. we know hillary clinton has a trust problem and that's the back half of this and why she spent so much time on the trail hitting donald trump and talking about the fact in her view, he would potentially talk to voters
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the same way he talked to whether it was business partners or people at trump university. the trust thing is a major issue for her and part of that is stemming from her e-mails, of course, we've talked a lot about that kind of, you know, on going issue with the missing e-mails. she talked a little bit with chris wallace about it. take a look. >> i made a mistake not using two different e-mail addresses. i've said that and repeated again today. it's not anything that i ever would do again. i take classification seriously. i relied on and had every reason to rely on the judgments of the professionals with whom i worked. in retrospect. maybe some people say well, among those 300 people they made the wrong call. at the time, there was no reason
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in my view to doubt the determination by the people that work every single day on behalf of our country. >> reporter: those questions, of course, expected to continue to follow her through this campaign, and the trump campaign certainly not going to let go of that. hillary clinton today, though, she spoke out on the issue of mr. khan today at a african american church in cleveland and pretty powerful way. that's the first we've really heard extended comments from her on this particular issue since the bus tour started and of course, she will be wrapping this up in columbus. she's got a schedule full of fundraisers. she's going to be heading out west after this to omaha, nebraska and be in denver later this week. >> maybe you can fly part of that way. we'll see. >> reporter: maybe. >> we'll see. joining me, political reporter for "the washington
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examiner" and a welcome to you both. ladies first with you, gabby. put into context the latest comments by mr. trump about the khan family. is there any other context that caused so much outrage. >> the campaign is having difficulty trying to spin this in a way that would benefit him and not carry such an attachment as we saw with the comments he made about the judge. if you recall that controversy, it lasted for several weeks and what trump's campaign wants to avoid is that. they want to spin the message to national security but that connection is really difficult to discern. how do you go from a man saying -- questioning donald trump's moral compass and defending the honor of his deceased son to discussing a proposal to bar non-american muslims from entering the u.s. that's difficult for his campaign and i think this controversy could last as long,
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if not longer than the controversy surrounding the judge. >> it feels like donald trump is providing material for the clinton campaign. do you think they are considering letting trump be trump? >> it's that's a possibility. i think these people are having to put out flyers out time while donald trump is behaving as a political arsonist every time controversy like this comes up. it could be the khan family, it could be the issue of hillary clinton, the russians could be the debate schedule. specifically with the khan family, people can make their own judge tments to the ethics political wisdom or lack therefore, picking a fight with people in that situation.
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>> it seems petty is what it seems. i just asked you if the campaign manager should let trump be trump. how much do you think campaign managers can control trump, gabby? >> you know, i was talking with somebody in the green room about this and i think that donald trump's campaign managers are in a really tough spot because they are dealing with the candidate who in someways will take advice of what these people are saying. i mean, political professionals running campaigns for years but then he gets on tv or goes behind his twitter account and it goes in one ear and out the other. you know, it has to be frustrating to see this done deliberately by a candidate time and time again but, you know, corey lewandowski maintained this and the way trump won the primary is to be himself and they think at this point the best way for him to win the general election is to continue to let him be himself. >> do you think that's going to work? one thing, primary season is one
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way, the general election season is another. >> that's the crucial point, alex. i think that a primary season is very different. you're obviously only appealing to a republican audience. the other thing is supporters are more, they agree with the primary candidates. a general election has to reach out to voters not persuaded and i don't see how the let trump be trump works. >> gabby, the trump campan had two events scheduled in pennsylvania and ohio and added another event to the buckeye state. you wrote about an interview sanders gave. first of all, how effective will clinton's bus tour be in getting rust belt voters who favored sanders and how much do you think trump can sway voters? >> to answer the first part,
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that depends how clinton carries that message to voters, is she going to go and deliver the same stump speech? if that is the case, i don't think she'll have the greatest success in reaching blue color white working class voters, voters in the rust belt and railing against the establishment. donald trump at the same time, we were talking about the fact you have to carry a different message in the general election than primary and one thing he's focussing on is bringing in sanders supporters and to continue to be as bombastic as he is and to be pedaling these controversies like the ones surrounding khan, that's not going to do him much good when he's trying to reach out to independent voters and sanders supporters more focused on his positions as opposed to what he thinks about hillary clinton or, you know, the father of a soldier. >> yeah, and nile, you were writing about the start of the 100-day stretch. what do you think the challenges
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are? how do they overcome them? >> for hillary clinton, she wants to get voters to take a fresh look at her. that's clearly a difficult thing for someone whose been around on the national stage for a quarter century but perhaps someone like tim kaine can provide a different kind of testimony on her behalf. donald trump, it's about proving readiness to be president. that's certainly one of the things that hillary clinton's campaign is continue weally hit him on he's not prepared. can he provide reassurance and can they make him believe he's a credible person for the oval office. >> thank you both so much for your time. appreciate that. trusting hillary clinton, what undecided voters want to hear from the democratic nominee and the strategy she should use to take on donald trump directly. if you're taking multiple medications, does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications.
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i feel very comfortable that the more people learn about what i've actually done, not the character but the real deal as my husband said in his remarks, they will understand why i was elected twice to the united states senate for the second time with a 67% vote. >> that was hillary clinton once againddressg the issue of trust this morning. it also came up acre cemented t nomination of the democratic party. joining me, san francisco mayo y willie brown. "the new york times" poll found 67% did not find hillary clinton trustworthy. do you think her speech and what she said this morning do
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anything or did anything to change minds with 100 days to go before the election? >> i hope so. i think many of those people in that 67% were people who really did not know hillary clinton. they only know what other people said about hillary clinton or conclusions opponents attributed to her, the collection of right-wing bloggers that did an incredible job of attracting people and making them think they are speaking facts. hillary's person appearance at the convention and going forward will rely how untruthful those things are. >> in your position there not with standing means she has been in politics an awfully long time. you've been in politics a long time. how hard is it to rebuild trust once a politician lost it? >> it's very, very difficult. in particular, if the bases of the loss is something that can actually be appointed to and in
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hillary clinton's case, it can't be pointed to. they try benbenghazi, it doesn' work. they try the business involving the e-mails. it doesn't really work. those are things they are just attributing, not like her opponent that tried to do the same thing and the results were he got it. >> wick wikileaks founder julia assange founder this morning. here he is. >> what i can say categorically is that we have published proof that the election campaign of bernie sanders was sabotaged by debbie wasserman schultz and others within the d inc. we can say that categorically,
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we have proof. >> what is this doing to clinton's trust gap among sanders' supporters and clintons that they need. >> i don't think independents should be put in the same category. they are different. i think independents will listen more to people like michael bloomberg, and individuals that have their best interest at heart. i think sanders supporters however will have been convinced by bernie sanders that the difference between hillary and trump shall not be determined on the basis of trust of hillary. it's got to be trust of trump. >> yeah, i respect your point there. it makes good sense. you've written two comments one you say democrats' convention was great, still a tough race, in the other one you have guidance for how clinton should take on trump. you said warm and fuzzy won't do
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it. is there a risk being too aggressive? >> she should in fact address trump directly in a debate with him if he shows up for the debate. he may not show up for the debate. he would be wise to delay it as long as he possibly can because in those debates with talented journalist asking you questions, you can't come become with the homilies he normally does and finds so entertaining and some of his people find entertaining. he's going to have to answer real tough questions. he's going to have to layout policy and program and we all know that's hillary's strong suit. >> there is speculation that donald trump may not show up for the debates. do you think is something that will happen and what would be the effect of that? trump. >> trump is a smart guy. he knows how to play the cards
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and get the attention and create the dialogue and get the headlines. he's above the headlines every time for anybody else he did that in the primary. he cannot however get away singly with doing it showing up for the debate. he would be very careful not to debate hillary clinton to find someway to make the dialogue. his campaign and she's doing her campaign. >> nice to see you, thank you for your time. spending millions, mega donors with the campaign and what they hope to get in return. real is touching a ray. amazing is moving like one. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue. amazing is over twenty-seven thousand of them.
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welcome back. i'm alex witt. at the bottom of the hour, monitoring dangerous and deadly flooding in maryland. one person is dead and more than 120 people had to be rescued which the storms caused wide spread damage to the central part of the state and you're k looing looking at video where they are assessing damage and beginning decoloration. khizr khan was criticized and here is his response from the republican nominee. >> i appreciate his statement calling my son a hero. and making this clarification and statement, i appreciate that but it sounds so disingenuous because of his policies, because
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of his rhetoric of hatred of division of dividing us. >> let's bring in hugh hewitt, host of the hugh hewitt show on the salem radio network and msn msnbc political analyst. isn't this the thing that is the worst fears of republicans including you that worried about candidate trump months and months ago? >> i watched mr. khan this morning. he was passionate and eloquent and gracious to mr. trump. what mr. trump said was awful. i have advice for him which is if every member of the 6,000 gold star families in america, mothers and fathers, daughters and sons, stand up and want to give your their advice and reaction, the only appropriate response is to genuinely listen, empathize, grieve with them and think on what they say, pray for them and move on.
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now the 6,000 gold star families in america split. i've had some of them in my studio. i've had gold star mothers. they are all over the map politically but every candidate, donald trump, hillary clinton and up and down the ballot, each of them need undivided attention and endless respect. that's all that can be said. his canada see will be volatile. it does. i want to separate the khan family and talk about the politics. august will mark the first august in 56 years that there hasn't been a political convention. they used to be in august. it will mark the first black august in terms of no news coming out of a convention in which social media has absorbed everything. so whatever the candidates say and do, i also watch robbie mook make a complete fool not answering a direct question. i watched dorothy woods, the
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widow of ty woods blasting mrs. clinton. that's going to take on at low out energy because into this vacuum. every story will come and the olympics will take up a lot of space but the political machine needs food. you know this, alex. we have to report every day about something. we have to fill air time about something. in the absence of a convention for the first time in 56 years, i expect one volumetity. they will drive the narrative. >> what you said about the way every single one of us, not even just candidates but every single one of us should pay respect and listen to gold star parents in this country, you're absolutely 1,000% right. donald trump did not do that. is he not capable of doing that? does it say about him that he can't do that? >> well, his empathy level is very low, and i think his campaign has to work on that. i know that the empathy level among his children is quite high.
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and so empathy is a learned skill. you really do have to learn how to listen and put yourself in the place of people grieving and sacrificed everything, but i have to say, alex, patricia smith spoke to the republican national committee. the master of sean smith. dorothy woods is the wife of ty woods who mrs. clinton and the state department abandoned to die on a roof in benghazi. the america media needs to talk to them as much as to the khans and everybody else. they just need to be fair. >> as you know, also, the mother of the ambassador who was killed in that tragedy in benghazi, she also said to donald trump stop using this, stop talking about my son. so you're getting people on both sides of the -- >> on both sides. >> weighing in. so you can't look at one without the other. >> i would encourage people to google dorothy woods and see the ad in which she responds to
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mrs. clinton telling the american people after director c comey said she lied. dorothy woods said you don't have the right to tell me to move on because it was my husband that died on the roof in benghazi. i think both of them need to spend a lot more time with gold star families as george w. bush and president obama have. i think first lady michelle obama has been wonderful with gold store families. it's not a political issue. >> the way he's run his campaign, here is what he said in an interview that aired this morning. >> i've had a beautiful -- i've had h a flawless campaign. her campaign she couldn't beat bernie. >> she did beat him. >> barely and this questions about that. >> look, there may be a lot of books written about the way he's run this campaign but that
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assessment he's given, does his campaign need to change if he wants to win in november? >> flawless is not the first word that comes to my mind with the trump campaign or clinton campaign. i believe this week if donald trump returns to the base -- he's a three-pitch pitcher. national security, the economy and the fact that hillary clinton was the worst secretary of state some would argue between equipment and libya and syria and her failure to neg ya -- negotiate. if he sticks to the big three, he'll close this gap and they are all campaigning in and around my hometown of ohio. they know this election will be won or lost in pennsylvania, ohio, florida, michigan and maybe wisconsin. that's where this campaign is. five-state campaign in essence, maybe virginia, new hampshire and arizona getting there but basically, they have to appeal to the e let -- electrets that
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have been left behind. hillary clinton isn't going to connect and has been looming over here. the d inc wasn't only hacked an in all likelihood, we'll find more hacks that will damage senator clinton, secretary clinton's credibility. when those e-mails drop and 33,000 deleted e-mails drop, the campaign will change again. donald trump needs to stay close or a couple points ahead as of yesterday and a couple behind as of today. just keep it close and see what events break. >> speaking of the e-mails, secretary clinton hit the comments about russia and e-mails, remarks trump said were meant to be sarcastic. here is how trump responded to that. let's listen to it. >> we know russian intelligence under the control vladimir putin hacked into the dnc and arranged for a lot of those e-mails to be
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released and we know that donald trump has shown a very troubling willingness to back up putin. >> so the secretary talking about this and the comments about putin. is he on firm grand? >> he had a disastrous conversation. she mischaracterized director comey. this morning she misrepresented what director comey said. every time she's asked and answers about the e-mails she wrongfully deleted, she digs her hole deeper. if i'm donald trump, i stay focused like a laser beam you cannot trust hillary clinton to tell you the truth about anything and therefore she cannot be -- i think she's disqualified from being commander in chief by virtue of the fact russians have five
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years of every electronic communication she had. don't believe rudy giuliani or me, believe the former acting director mike moral. they got her. she's compromised and as a result, she can't be the commander in chief. whether or not people like donald trump, whether or not they think he's a jerk or the most wonderful guy in the world, no matter what he's the one that can be given these two since she is wholly compromised, alex. >> let that be the last word for this sunday. thank you for that. >> thank you. joining me now, larry, direct for of uva center for politics. welcome to you, my friend. the last hour, the impact of trump and the impact on the party. let's hear that. unfortunately, he was so eloquent in doing -- you know what? we'll do it now. >> do you think the republican party is in this death spiral where it keeps driving out
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people and left with this rump of people who are much more about white identity politics and nationalism and that core is shrinking and event actually will be replaced by something else. i don't think it's capable of riding the ship at this point. >> so what does the party do in the next 100 days so they are not in a position like they were four years ago trying to autopsy what went wrong? >> well, you know, alex, if you go back to the autopsy report, which i thought was quite good, it probably wasn't radical enough to keep the republican party achieving success over the long run but had a lot of very good suggestions. if you go back and read what the republican party said right after mitt romney lost, you'll find out that the party that's done very, very little on most of those recommendations have never seen the light of day. for example, the out reach to hispanics, i guess they had an out reach to hispanics but it hasn't quite been in the way that that report described.
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whether or not they do, hey, look, alex, the population is changing dramatically. the e llectret is changing. since the 1980s, we downed tubl percentage from 15 in the 1980s to about 30% in november. well, you know, one thing hasn't changed. democrats were getting way over 80% of the vote of all minorities in the 1980s and in november i'll predict flatly, they will get way over 80% of the votes of all minorities, african americans, hispanic americans and so on, muslim americans. way over 80% in november. well, that means that you have a shrinking group of whites and the republicans have to get a very large percentage and an increasingly large percentage of
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whites every four years. good luck with that. whatever happens with trump, good luck with that. >> how about the trump campaign focus on battle ground states? he's traveling to pennsylvania and ohio tomorrow. those are two of the four states the campaign is banking on, others being florida, large latino population and north carolina. how does that work as a strategy? has anyone ever won on a strategy where they just try to move with a hand full of states like that? >> that's very, very tough to do but i'll tell you, he's only got two pathways to victory. i know about california and new york and new jersey being competitive or i hear from his campaign connecticut and oregon, keep dreaming. there are two pathways to victory. one is that he has to flip florida, pennsylvania and ohio, voted for obama twice, flipped those three. you get 273 or you have a pure rust belt strategy where you win pennsylvania, ohio, michigan and
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wisconsin. you know what that gives you assuming you're carrying the romney states including north carolina which is a tough one, you get exactly 270. that's it. there are no other plans here. i saw hugh hewitt i like talking about virginia being a swing state. off the board and that's. >> thanks so hutmuch. a fast documentary on what motivates donors to contrit b-- contribute millions of dollars. at the top of the hour, trump campaign manager paul manafort on "meet the press" as he looks what to expect over the next 100 days of the election. t. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost® to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals,
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top 100 donors to political campaigns in this country. >> reporter: this year the price tag of the presidency will be almost $6 billion so who at mega donors and what are they getting for thin investment. >> how much have you given? >> give and raised, probably 100 million. >> do you want to know the truth? i don't remember. >> alexander pelosi is here with me now. did you see my reaction when you said $6 billion. >> where is all that money going? it's all going into ads that are going to be playing in between your commercials that are just about how awful donald trump is or how awful hillary clinton is. that's the stuff that makes people hate our whole system. >> yeah, and we'll become immune because it's one barrage after the next. let's talk about how you got big money donors to talk to you in the first place. >> i took the fec just releases their name and addresses and
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easy to find and i wrote to them and there is basically 100 families in america that fund this whole thing. each candidate has to raise at least $1 billion and even though trump said he was self-funding in the primaries, dollars. and even though trump said he was self funding, there is this monopoly board you have to go around to pick up the checks when running for president. so both candidates are now sort of hopping down the bunny trail to go to the donors. and i went through the list of the biggest donors in america and i wrote to them. these are what bernie sanders calls the billionaire class. they have walls of the publicists and staff. and they are easy to get to. that wasn't the hard part. the hard part was getting them to go on camera. >> what do they co-tell you exactly what they say? like a tit for tat if. if i give one million dollars here's what i'm going to duet? they are not going to do that. >> first thing i did was scrub the wikileaks for the names of
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donors in my movie. and what did he get? he got to sit next to obama at a fundraiser. you could take it two directions. it proves they have access. they want appointment to commissions. they want to be ambassador. are ambassadorships for sale in america? yes they are but that is not a huge revolution. you didn't see anyone say i want this law written to benefit my company. >> someone will say i need to sit next to mr. obama at this dinner. which means he has an ear for the president. they are going to be talking about things. there could be a period of influence policy, don't you think. >> that's why i think the hole movement was about how corrupt the system is. and now hillary is saying it too. but that seems to be something people understand so who has the candidate's ears. it is these billionaire whose write the checks.
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write a check to hillary clinton, she has to 25ik your phone call and what are you talk about? >> did you find anything though that this is a direct cause effect. this person gave money and you see now where this person is. and maybe got there because of this. >> i'll tell you what's funny. there is no smoking gun. and what i find fascinating about the whole thing and and i saw this at the convention last week. you have donors on both sides of the issue. in the same party. you can have donors say i'm giving you 10 million dollars and i'm for the iraq war. same candidate, i don't want you to vote for the iraq war. you can find donors on both sides of the issues. and what writing the check does is gets you a hearing with the candidate. it doesn't mean they are going do what they tell you do because they are donors on both sides in both parties. >> do you get a sense which group has more influence? >>ly say i did not see big money at the ohio convention this year. i did see big money at the
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democratic convention. in the sky boxes are, the hotel bar, you saw money. this is the way american democracy is played. there is a playbook. and you could see the money on display. i don't know if the big donors are really behind trump yet. he has to gain -- he's going need a billion dollars at least to win this election. even to be in play. just to be in play you need a billion dollars. so you will see these big donors lining up behind the candidate. >> and there is one place. the t boon pickens gave a lot of money and didn't see anything in exchange. >> he says he got outspent. he says i want 20d get a law pass so i wrote the big check and i tried to woo the senators. but in the end they didn't because he got out spent by the koch brothers. >> this is hbo, tomorrow night, 9:00 p.m. p i can't wait to watch it. meet the donors, does money talk? i think the answer is we'll see.
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