. that will wrap up this hour of msnbc live. i'm thomas roberts. i'll see you back here at 2:00 p.m. my colleague tamron hall will pick things up. i'm tamron hall from our msnbc headquarters in new york. we'll start with breaking news. a police officer with the washington, d.c. metro transit system has been charged with providing support to isis. this is the first time a law enforcement officer has been accused of helping the terror group. that according to court documents. the man identified as 36-year-old nicholas young is accused of purchasing gift cards for mobile messaging apps to help isis communicate overseas. the u.s. attorney says there was no credible threat to the d.c. metro system. we'll continue to follow the latest as we get more information. on to politics right now. wreer still waiting for house speaker paul ryan to personally respond to donald trump's stunning reversal to endorse him in his primary election next tuesday in wisconsin.

"the washington post" calling it, quote, an extraordinary breach of political decorum that underscores the party's deep divisions. in refusing to endorse the most powerful republican in congress, the party standard-bearer told the washington posted, quite, i'm not quite there yet. i like paul but these are horrible times for our country and we need very strong leadership. we need very, very strong leadership, and i'm just not quite there yet. if that sounds familiar, here is what paul ryan said back in may about donald trump. >> i'm just not ready to do that at that point. i'm not there right now. i want to support him, but right now, just beicandid with you, i not there yet. >> donald trump said speaker sought his endorsement. ryan's office issued a statement said neither speaker ryan or anyone on his team has ever asked for donald trump's

endorsement. we are confident of a victory next week regardless. meantime, trump is also refusing to endorse who other prominent republicans in their tough re-election battle, senator john mccain and kelly ayotte. both criticized trump's comments with the khan family. >> i've never been a big fan of john mccain. i just hate the way our veterans have been treated by john and other people. i hate it. i look at our veterans, how badly they've been. >> what has john mccain done to veterans? >> he should have krabd that issue. >> trump is pushing back on a report by our colleague at cnbc john harwood that amid all this trump's campaign staff is, quote, suicidal.

trump tweeting this morning there's great unity in my campaign, perhaps greater than everyone before. i want to thank everyone for their tremendous support. beat crooked h. hallie jackson joining us, we'll talk about harwood's reporting regarding the mindset of trump's campaign. hallie what are you hearing behind the scenes regarding pressure to have the candidates fall in line or change his tune to some degree here? >> reporter: that pressure has existed throughout the entirety of donald trump's campaign. here is new reporting from nbc news, key allies of donald trump are plotting a kind of intervention, planning what's being called this sort of reset campaign for donald trump, hoping to meet with him in the coming days. we're talking about people like rnc head reince priebus, former new york mayor rudy giuliani, additionally newt gingrich, the

former house speaker. all supporters of donald trump. sources tell nbc there's growing concern about specifically these last 48 hours for trump. the final straw coming when he refused to speak out about any kind of endorsement for paul ryan as you noted. this is all in its early stages. it should be note tld's no guarantee the campaign will entertain the idea of this, quote, unquote, intervention since the candidate, frankly, has not done anything up to this point to indicate he is willing to follow these calls for him to moderate his tone. it is leading some republicans close to his orbit to say things like, this is worse than ever, worse than they've seen it before. one top republican told me this is not crazy town. we have entered this kind of territory here, not just because of one incident or the purple heart incident or his going after the gold star parents, the khan family, after khizer khan and his wife hit him on the

democratic national stage. there is pressure on donald trump and one of the takeaways i've had this morning in my conversation with republicans is donald trump's family, his children specifically, will play a key roll over these next three to five days, over this next week in terming how, weather and when donald trump will respond to this, what he might say. remember ivanka, donald junior, eric trump have been his inner circle advisers, the ones who do hold sway over donald trump. as one person told me this morning, this race's destiny is in trump's hands alone. >> thank you, hallie. let me bring in katy tur, she's covered the trump campaign from the beginning, joining us live outside trump tower here in new york. just listening to hallie's reporting that there may be some type of family intervention this weekend. donald trump is holding a rally later today. we know he stays glued to the

television, glued to twitter, he sees all this happening today, a rally this afternoon, if he's upset or offended by these reports. >> reporter: this is donald trump's comfort zone, tamron, what we've seen for the past 13, 14 months. we jumps from one controversy to the next, extinguishing one that is lingering by moving on to something that might be more shocking or more eye opening, jaw dropping, if you will. this is exactly what is happening here. does donald trump get angry about this coverage? he does when he lashes out. i'm not so sure the campaign is angry about it right now. i spoke to jason miller, the communications director. he was vehement about how this is donald trump operating as donald trump. he's always been anti-establishment. it should come as no surprise he's continuing to do so by pushing back on paul ryan and john mccain not supporting him or his belief that they're not sporting him. the idea that donald trump sees

this as a meggive is just not true. the campaign sees his outsider status and donald trump sees his outsider status as a positive. does paul manafort see that? that's not quite the case. they see this as unforced errors. remember, the kids do have a lot of influence and they were able to bring manafort in and elevate him to a higher position, to get corey lewandowski out. this idea of let trump be trump be minimized and paul manafort would bring professionalization to this campaign. that has happened to a degree in terms of hiring. here and there when it comes to policy speeches, but donald trump is still being himself. paul manafort can only exert so much influence. frankly, the kids can only influence so much influence. it took months for them to get lewandowski out and manafort

hit. it can take, if we look at past presidents, it can take some time. >> katy, even if there's an overwhelming chorus of pressure. in your reporting yesterday there are still potentially millions of voters who support donald trump no matter what. you were at a rally where a mom, an adult with a young boy and something like we've never seen before played out with a child chanting in this rally. >> reporter: these people who come to trump rallies are diehard donald trump believers. and the mother with her son yesterday are two examples of that. the son yelled out about hillary clinton, calling her the b word. the mother said that he has a right to his own opinion. she smiled at him as he said it. she said children are children. these are people who have unfailing support for donald trump regardless of the criticism that is leveled against him. i asked a number of his supporters if they cared about

any of this. they said the more the media criticizes him or the more that experts criticize him or the washington establish criticizes him, the harder their support becomes. but donald trump needs to expand that, tamron. right now the polls show him losing support among white men, and that is his key contingent, his key voting bloc. if he can't maintain that and mitigate the losses with minorities and women, he does not have a path to the presidency. >> and to that point, again, the white male voter, that individual or that type of person we've seen follow him from the primary, i want to play another example of some of these loyal voters to trump. here is what one plan sat said at a rally on monday. >> i told "the l.a. times" that i would vote for trump unless he murdered somebody. but if he murdered the right person, i still might vote for him. >> so katy, what has more influence, someone expressing

obviously, i hope, using an example that's maybe not an authentic view of his heart but maybe his passion, that kind of support for donald trump, is he listening more to that or the establishment pushback? which weighs more in his eyes? >> donald trump weighs the voters in his eyes than the establishment. he takes polls very seriously. he believes his win during the primaries is a man daechlt he believes he is the republican party leader, not paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, anyone else in washington, that he's the one the party fair and square during the primaries. there's something to be said for that. that's the feedback he's getting. he only want plurality of republican voters. he needs to expand the base. he's got to get independents and these controversies are starting to unravel that mandate. they're starting to hurt donald trump's message. he needs to find a way, according to people in his campaign and according to members of the gop to mitigate

these losses, to stem the bleeding, to get on message, but donald trump has shown time and time again during this campaign that he does not like to stay on message. >> all right, katy, thank you. let me bring in boston globe political editor shira center and "huffington post" ed toshl director howard fineman who is also an nbc political analyst. howard, joe scarborough reported this morning that donald trump repeatedly asked an unnamed foreign policy expert why the u.s. couldn't use its nuclear stockpile during a national security briefing, that he repeatedly asked this question. joe was using this as an example with former cia director michael hayden as to whether or not donald trump has to temperament and even maybe, as some have floated out, the sanity to lead this country. what's your reaction to just that? >> well, if donald trump claims to be thinking outside the box,

that's about as far outside the box as you can get. i think joe is right to cite it as something scary. what's more interesting to me and pertinent today is that it seems like a lot of people around him, even in his managerial inner circle -- if that isn't a contradiction in terms -- are wondering, if not about his sanity, about his ability to control himself. i'm told that one of the reasons he's got a problem here is that he watches television. he responds viscerally to anything sees. he has his smart phone right in front of him. he taps out a tweet and the world blows up, at least politically. you put together that kind of behavior with the kinds of questions joe scarborough was reporting on and you get a pretty scary scenario. >> cheryl, when you look at the growing list of republicans now, we we're not talking about a congressman running for re-election as was the case yet

with an upstate new york member of congress. you have meg whitman, kelly ayotte, john mccain. the "wall street journal" now reporting former president george w. bush didn't name trump by name but had questions at a private fund-raiser about the policies from the gop front-runner here. this is a huge list. you heard me ask katy tur what matters more to donald trump, the people at his rally or these influential names in his party who no longer support him? >> i think it's clear who matters more to donald trump. it's the people at these rallies. that's who he views as feeding his candidacy. look at his interview yesterday where he threw paul ryan under the bus, who he had to negotiate with and get support and party infrastructure. donald trump views that as the political establishment, the old way of doing politics. i believe his mindset is he is doing the new way of politics

and he can seize on the energy he gets off these crowds when he goes to these massive rallies. there are thousands of people at many of them and he views that as his base of support. that's who he would potentially win a presidency with. the thing about that, they are not represented as the american electorate and the numbers don't bear that out. >> howard, when we look at since the republican convention controversies involving donald trump, just since the rnc, include a verbal battle with the chauns that is still on going, he was still on last night discussing it, the russia and ukraine, seemingly unwear the situation in crimea was quite different than how he explained it to george stephanopoulos, suggesting if his daughter was sexually harassed at work, she would find another career, the purple heart issue yesterday, insulting the capital city of pennsylvania saying it looked like a war zone or a waste land which they now have struck back

at him. that's just a partial list there. how can this sustain? >> i don't know that it can. again, having talked with a lot of the people close to him and the various rings of his inner circle, they're concerned he's administering damage to himself minute by minute. some say they were admiring hillary clinton's dins discipline, the fact that when hillary was attacked vehemently at the republican convention about benghazi, hillary didn't fire back, she didn't jump on her smart phone and send out an antagonizing tweet. i'm told paul manafort, ostensibly in charge of the campaign is, quote, frustrated, unquote, that he can't get through to donald trump. he can't get between donald trump and his smart phone because that's the hold that donald trump has. donald trump's hole view of his candidacy is it's all about his own visceral reaction to thing

and somehow his own internal emotional reaction is what bonds him with the american people. it's a theory that got him a plurality of votes in the primaries in the republican side. it's highly questionable, especially to his own advisers, that that's the way to win the white house. >> shira, looking at, again, the primary version of donald trump and the general election version of donald trump, it's the same playbook. i know people have kept the drum beat of, he'll change. we're 90 days or so out here. there's no indication he'll change. what are the party's option? you heard people float out a deal to get him out. there's no indication he plans to leave. there seems to be a breaking point that has to come here if this continues. >> you're right. there should be at this point, presidential campaigns typically pivot to the general election.

you saw that in their nomination speeches. hillary clinton made a certain pivot to the general election, she mentioned republicans in her speech. donald trump made no such pivot at all. the speech he made at the republican national convention may as well have been a rally in new hampshire six months ago. given the recent unforced errors, republicans don't have a lot of options. even if they were trying to oust him, there are ballot rules to go around, all these issues in individual states. there's no way to get him off the ballot unless he chooses to leave and donald trump has given no indication that he has any desire to do that thus far. >> quickly, the options are, they have to abandon him, there's no indication he's going to abandon ship, howard? >> yes, i think what's happening is the republican party which already was at odds with donald trump is going to tiptoe away or zoom away over the next several weeks. we could have by october a

situation of a split screen. republican party in toto and donald trump oven his own. >> thank you very much for your time. as we mentioned, donald trump is facing harsh criticisms from veterans during what happened on stage during a campaign event in virginia as he told the audience he accepted a purple heart from one of his supporters. >> a man came up to me and he handed me his purple heart. i said to him, i said to him, is that like the real one or is that a copy? he said that's my real purple heart. i have such confidence in you. i said, man, that's like big stuff. i always wanted to get the purple heart. this was much easier. >> the man, however, told nbc news before the rally that it was actually a copy of his hurm

heart. angry reaction to trump's comments have come in and they condition. congress ma man tammy duckworth tweeted, writing this is how one usually looks when you are awarded the purple heart. nothing easy about it. we should note representative duckworth is running against republican senator mark kirk for one of ill any's seats, a seat republicans are in danger of losing. mark kirk has been very critical of donald trump. last night gold star father khizer khan who has been involved in this heated exchange with donald trump again lashed out at trump, this time for accepting that purple heart. >> donald trump, you had the time, you did not serve. you should have pin that back to that veteran's chest and should have hugged him and thanked him. >> one veteran's message to donald trump about the price he

and others have paid for that purple heart has also now gone viral. >> on the 19th of august 2004 i was awarded a purple heart, and my brother who lost half an arm that day, he was awarded a purple heart, my brother who lost an eye that day, he was awadded a purple heart, my brother who was killed that day, he was awarded a purple heart. purple hearts equal bad days, donald and nobody, nobody with one ever wanted it. >> with me now is the man who made that video, will fisher, an iraq war veteran, executive director of the union veterans council. thank you for your time. we appreciate you joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> as the daughter of a man also award add purple heart, i think certainly your sentiment is something that hit me when you said it on that video like so many others. for people that do not know, the criteria for receiving a purple heart, service members must be injured or killed in direct

contact, bullets, shrapnel, mines, concussions from enemy generated explosions. as you pointed out, it is not a good day. when you heard donald trump i always wanted one of these and this was the easy way, could you believe what you were hearing? >> tamron, i couldn't. before yesterday, 99% of the people in my life had no idea that i was ever awarded a purple heart. a lot of that has to do with the fact that, as i said in my video on the 19th of august 2004 i was awarded a purple heart but i had my brothers who lost their lives, lost an eye, lost their arm. it is a reminder of a very bad day. and when i heard that, i was just so dumfounded. and what donald trump seems to not understand at all is that there is no one who has ever been awarded a purple heart that was glad to get it or wanted it. >> back in july, the military

times conducted a voluntary -- what they call a confidential survey among troops, reservists, national guard personnel, this was in early july and donald trump was up 49%. hillary clinton had 20% in that poll. given the situation with the khans, given this remark about the purple heart and "the new york times" report on donald trump's deferment and the moving story regarding why he did not serve this country and even his definition of sacrifice, do you believe he will continue to have an appeal to some of those serving right now in the uniform? >> i do not. it is my absolute belief, tamron, that donald trump will be the first republican in modern political history to not carry the veteran vote on election day. we mentioned his attacks on gold star families. can we just let that sink in for a little bit? tamron, where are we in our toll picks where we have politicians, in this case the republican

party's nominee for president of the united states attacking gold star families? people who have already sacrificed more than most can even begin to comprehend. and yet this is just -- this and his juvenile comments about the purple heart are only chapters in donald trump's chronicles of disregard and attacks on military families, whether it's advocating privatizing the va, doing away with the gi bill or, like you mentioned, his constant banging the drum for more war, wanting to send more young american women and men into combat -- not his kids, right? eric, donny junior and ivanka aren't going to be putting on a flap jacket any time soon. if he's elected president, the folks watching at home, their kids may well be. this coming from someone who avoided service, who dodged service when it was their time to serve with the help of multiple deferments and having a rich dad. >> i want to put this in, dakota

meyer, sarah palin's son-in-law said if donald trump wants to be the commander-in-chief, he needs to act like one and that can't start until he apologizes to the khans. at this point is an apology what's necessary? is that enough from donald trump on these issues, the purple heart and the khans and the growing list as it relates to the military? >> i do think an apology is appropriate. i don't believe an apology is possible though. donald trump has repeatedly shown throughout this entire campaign he is remarkably thin-skinned and incapable of saying anything that he does or does as being in the wrong. so i would be dumfounded if donald trump actually showed enough integrity to apologize to the gold star families and the veterans that he has attacked and insulted throughout his presidential campaign. >> will, thank you so much for your service and honoring us to be on this hour. thank you.

>> thank you very much for having me. >> the impact all this is having on the clinton campaign, the reported chaos in team trump. does that mean hillary clinton's plan to pluck off republican's support ins to-up states, will that work? we'll have the very latest from the clinton campaign on the trail in colorado. and another new case of someone infected with the zika virus in united states, a new local case is being reported in miami outside the area where more than a dozen people were infected. this as the cdc now says it may be facing a setback. we'll be right back. this... this... or this. today, there's a new option. introducing drug-free aleve direct therapy. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its wireless remote lets you control the intensity, and helps you get back to things like... this... this... or this. and back to being yourself. introducing new aleve direct therapy.

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leading trump in colorado by an average of eight points. she's temporarily stopped spending on tv ads in colorado. we reported clinton successfully wooing meg whitman to her camp. let's get the latest from kelly o'donnell who joins us now. was the campaign strategy i guess to get more than meg on board. >> this is really a remarkable turn of events. typically in the general election you would not have one party trying to pluck prominent names from the other. with meg whitman who of course is the ceo of hewlett packard and formerly a candidate for governor in california, this is a big deal. not entirely surprising. we have seen that meg whitman has been critical of donald trump throughout the later part of the primary process. he had been working on behalf of chris christie early on in the campaign season. by doing this, she's not only

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past 24 hours. quote, the gop and trump go from unraveling to break glass mode. we're at the point where there's gop c abohatter key republicans coming out hard against their nominee. joining me nbc political news editor kerry dan. this comes at a time when some of trump's allies are planning what is described as an intervention. at this point, what can you report about the intervention and the impact this has on republican leadership? >> nbc's chuck todd and hallie jackson reported a number of republicans who are close to the campaign, people like newt gingrich and judy giuliani are considering some kind of intervention to speak to the candidate about the state of the campaign and what he can do to reset it, perhaps taking a break over the olympics to reset the campaign and begin the general election new. looking back over the last 24 hours. in first read 24 hours ago we wrote the campaign seemed to be

unraveling. in retrospect that looks like an understatement. in the last 24 hours, trump continuing his fight with the khan family, him talking to a purple heart recipient and saying he's, quote, always wanted to receive a purple heart. and the bombshell yesterday from "the washington post" of donald trump refusing to endorse house speak are paul ryan and taking aim at senator john mccain over veterans issues and taking aim at senator kelly ayotte. there are people who have previously been supportive of donald trump saying we have to speak to the candidate about what to do next. >> carey, if you're a republican, you come out hard, looking at paul ryan, kelly ayotte, it looks as though you're upset because he tangled an endorsement, not because of his remarks to the khan family. its looks as though it's tit for

tat personal. >> that's what establishment republicans find themselves in. instead of asking if these political figures are going to unendorse trum. if you're a republican, if you're going to go as far as refusing to endorse trump and you say it's for the good of the party, do you call on him to step down from the top of the ticket. obviously no indication or reporting to say donald trump is considering that and campaign officials within the trump organization have heavily pushed back against that, saying that's not on the table. even the fact that before labor day we're having conversations about whether a candidate can be viable to stay at the top of the ticket certainly unprecedented and shows the moment of crisis the republican party find itself in. >> since so much of life is about perusing social media. reince priebus social media is focused on criticism of hillary clinton and the obama administration, his last few

tweets ignoring the elephant in their room anyway. might this be a strategy of trying to pretend that it's not there, that this is not happening? it looks that way from the last few tweets from the rnc chairman? >> the most unifying thing for the republican party is their taste for hillary clinton with the exception of some mig yurs like meg whitman who announced this morning that she would be voting for hillary clinton. you're not seeing too many with the exception of one sitting republican member of the house, too many republicans saying i'm not voting for donald trump and i'm voting for hillary clinton. it's an attempt to unify the party around the one thing they have in common which is we don't want a democrat in the white house. >> this last tweet from reen priebus, at a time when the u.s. is concerned about terror attacks, we can't afford out-of-touch leadership.

unprincipled and out of touch world stage, referring to obama and clinton at a time when their nominee is facing the very question about his sanity and where his moral compass lie. >> exactly. republicans will have to, if they want to keep donald trump at the top of their picket, push back heavily against the idea that he's not responsible enough to have his finger on the nuclear button. this is the message you saw democrats trying to hammer home over and over and over again, that donald trump is not fit for the office, not responsible enough, and newly, in light of the khan family, not empathetic enough to actually lead the country as commander-in-chief. >> carrie sanders, thank you very much. we have new information on the alton sterling case, the african-american man shot and killed in baton rouge. a judge has ordered that officials not release his autopsy. it's one of the stories we're updating around the news nation this morning.

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a baltimore mother is shot and killed and her child wounded during a police standoff. the investigation of that case tops our look at stories around the news nation. this morning baltimore county police say officers were trying to serve arrest warrants to korean gaines monday morning when the five-hour standoff started at her home. during that time police say she posted video to facebook of the standoff. her followers encouraged her not to comply with negotiators. facebook granted an emergency request from officers to shut down her request. police say they fired on gaines after she pointed a shotgun at them and said she would kill them if they did not leave. officials say she fired back prompting police to fire again, killing her and hitting her 5-year-old son in the arm. it is not clear if he was hit by police or his mother's weapon authorities say she had. alton sterling's autopsy report will not be released to the public.

sterling was killed during a struggle with police officers last month in baton rouge. it was caught on video touching off protests for days. the coroner said a federal judge ordered officials not to release the report yesterday. no comment from the justice department. we're now learning a firefighter was killed while helping passengers escape a smoking airplane that caught fire moments after his crash landed in dubai this morning. the plane carrying 300 people on board was on its way from india when the pilot reportedly told passengers there was a problem with the landing gear. the plane skidded across the runway upon landing and everyone was' vaek ated moments before the massive explosion tore through parts of the plane. we're going to our very popular series "born in the usa" highlighting american business success stories. today we're throwing the spotlight on a company making its mark on the industry that forbes says is exploding across the nation. it's known as paint and wine.

it it. in may of 20 09d, craig teamed up with charles charles will only been in the city for a few years after being displaced by hurricane katrina. after both start-up businesses of their own, they decided to take the plunge and open their first paint and sip studio. and in seven years the company has expanded to over 180 franchise studios in 35 states and one will be open in canada by the end of this year. they will have created 700 jobs. joining me now the co-founders, craig and charles, thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having us, tamron. >> good morning, a tamron. >> craig and charles, the only people that love you more, hoda and kathie lee, they're famous for sipping their wine on the "today" show. let me ask you, craig, how did you know that you stumbled across something that would

really i guess catch the attention and fire the way it did? >> yeah, charles and i moved to houston, and i pitched the idea to him a few times. it wasn't until we talk to beth, his wife, when she said you have something. this is an incredible girl's night out. mixing painting with some fun and wine really goes a long way with consumers. >> it does. and i have to admit, it's gone a long way with my texas mom and her sfrend as well. expansion all the way to canada where there's so much stress and heaviness in the world. the idea that people can go to something novel and find a release, i'm sure you thought yeah, i could work, but to this degree though. >> yeah, absolutely. i think people are kind of looking for that fun night out. that's what we've brought and give them, and they help them make memories and be able to bring art and fun with this, that's why we're paint, drinking, and having fun. >> i guess you're popular with

the ladies in the neighborhood, not in that way. in the way that you've given them something fun to do. when you look at the numbers of employees you've been able to hire as well. this is why we celebrate small business, it doesn't stay contained, right, craig? >> that's right, we've had a huge impact, we're a franchise system, so we've impacted so many owners starting their own small businesses, having over 1,200 employees, artists all over the country has had a huge impact in consumers too. they've found interesting ways to use us for girl's night out and kids camps and team building. we've continued here incredible stories from them. >> and charles, as we approach of course hurricane season and we look at the impact of katrina and the rebuilding of new orleans and the gulf states, it's just been remarkable in the way to celebrate, but you were looking at a tough situation and you could have stayed down, but you did not. was there one thing in your head to tell yourself when you looking for the loans and support? >> absolutely.

i think when we were waiting through that -- wading through that water the house that was under nine feet of water. we made a pact that one my of roommates and i, we were going to rise above this storm and make a difference. and i think we're doing that here. >> you made 26 million in 2015, that's system wide sales, what's next? >> i think next we really expect to continue to grow throughout the country, consumers are telling us they want it in their local neighborhood. with 180 locations all over the u.s., moving into canada and international and also continuing to fill some of those other gaps across school programs, kids programs, and just getting art and that culture out to the masses and mixing fun and wine into it is what's next for us. >> are you surprised at how well people can paint with a few glasses of wine in them? >> i think the most popular thing we always hear is that we cannot paint a stick figure and we help people step by step to

show them they can create a masterpiece of their own. >> yeah, the wine has a big impact on just getting to release and forget about making mistakes which is what art is about. >> well, you guys are the first painters to go international. congratulations on that. i know that louisiana state, lsu very proud of both of you. and we greatly appreciate you joining us, and congratulations again. good born in the usa, thank you, guys. >> thank you, tamron. of course. we to want update you on the flooding in maryland after a quick break, we'll be right back. ♪ using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the framework... wire... and plants needed to give my shop... a face... no one will forget. see what the power of points can do for your business.

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what will you do with your aleve hours? we're following a lot of developments including the daily briefing at the white house right now where i'm told that josherne ernest if he believed the election is rigged an assertion made by donald trump in the beginning of the week expressing doubt that the election could go on without

influence of rigging, that was the description. nevertheless, keeping an eye on the situation. to hear more what have they're saying, particularly about the push to try to get in some republican voters, the president yesterday addressing the discourse within the republican party. also questioning donald trump's ability to lead this country. we'll keep an eye on the briefing and get the very latest from you there. meanwhile, that is it for this hour of msnbc live, i'm tamron hall, kristin welker is next hosting "andrea mitchell reports." right now on "andrea mitchell reports," red alert, donald trump's comments take him, his campaign, and his party into unprecedented territory. >> i'm afraid the election's going to be rigged. i have to be honest. >> i don't regret anything, i was hit hard from the stage and it's one of those things. man came up to me and he handed me his purpole heart. i always wanted to get a purple heart. that was easier, don't worry

about that baby, i love babies. i hear that baby crying. actually, i was only kidding, you can get the baby out of here. >> insult to injury, trump refusing to endorse key republican leaders who have backed him, including paul ryan and john mccain. >> you know, i've never been a big fan of john mccain, and i just hate the way our veterans have been treated by john and other people. >> and the choice as republicans struggle to come to terms with what their nominee is saying. will they continue to back him? >> the broader issue is a buy their choice in election. and it's a choice to keep someone i disagree on many issues and someone i disagree with on every issue. and that's a choice before us. and very good day to you, i'm kristin welker in for andrea mitchell. the waves crashing on to the trump campaign. the latest controversy during an interview with the "washington

post," trump refused to endorse paul ryan and john mccain. all this causeding senior party officials to reach a breaking point with the candidate they're just unable to control. there is some good news for trump, this morning the campaign announced a big fundraising number, $80 million raised by the campaign and joint events with the republican national committee. nbc's katie tur covers the trump campaign and she is live outside of trump tower, so katie, thanks for being here. i want to start with these reports about disunity and chaos within the campaign and also some buzz about republicans considering an intervention, what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah, i just talked to one of my republican sources, and they can confirm that donald trump, an intervention will be staged. they're looking at staging an event for donald trump. people like rudy giuliani involved, reince priebus and newt gingrich. calls going on right now and there's conversations going on right now about who else would be involved in this