mitchell reports." >> and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," watergate, new questions about ryan lochte's alleged holdup. >> and the guy pulled out his gun, he caulked it, put it to my forehead and said get down. i put my hands up, i was like whatever. >> but overnight his teammates grounded in brazil by the police and new details breaking this hour on what really happened. we'll have the latest from rio. under new management, behind in the polls, donald trump shaking up his campaign. trump's new ceo a former wall street deal maker turned into conservative firebrand with a mandate to let trump be trump. >> i am who i am. i don't want to pivot. you have to be you. >> he can hire and fire anybody he wants from his campaign they

can make him read new words from a teleprompter. there is no new donald trump. this is it. steve bann >> and natural disasters, a california wildfire forcing the evacuation of 82,000 people from their homes, while the flooding in l.ouisiana is continuing eve more deadly. >> i want to cry. it's horrible. it's something you would never think about. >> how important is it to save this house? >> it's important. this is our dad's life savesings, this is everything he owns, everything he has. >> good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. in a dramatic turn of events, four members of the u.s. olympic swimming team are in hot water today. gold medalist ryan lochte standing by his story as early as this morning that he and his three teammates were robbed at gunpoint in rio, although he acknowledged to matt lauer on

"toda "today" embellishing details. but overnight two of lochte's teammates pulled off a flight derks tim kained for hours, questioned and ordered to stay in brazil as officials questioned their report. new information from the "new york times" citing a brazilian police officer official who reviewed surveillance video images of the incident, an incident at a gas station saying the swimmers lied about their robbery account. this is the surveillance video from local brazil station globo. keir simmons has been digging into this troubling story indeed. keir? >> let's look at the security camera foot aage shone by globo. i'm told it shows three angles. someone of a swimmer entering a restro restroom, an attendant emerges

and notices damage then it seems to show swimmers sitting on the curb apparently talking to gas station security then they leave and try to get a taxi. so detectives here think it raises questions about the stories that have been put forward by ryan lochte and his teammates. initially he said he was held up by people pretending to be police then he told matt lawer that he had pulled up at a gas station that they'd gone to the bathroom and the incident unfolded from there and that is how we get to this stage now, andrea, where he is back home watching events unfold while three u.s. gold medalists are

here in brazil in limbo, two being pulled from a plane. this has the potential to be a diplomatic incident because as you know things like this can turn into a serious row between two countries. and you can imagine behind the scenes the state department and their equivalent in brazil are working to unravel it and get it sorted out. >> keir, just to give context, there had been several incidents of crime, crime is a problem many rio. there had been several incidents against people attending and some of the olympians themselves so one can understand how there was credibility give on the this original account. what are the indications from the usoc's standpoint. if this was fabricated and reaches the level of a legal case, is there any medal implication? are there potential problems for them faras far as their olympic status?

>> i don't think we know. there will be people watching who will be stunned that an incident that involves perhaps potential damage to a bathroom could unravel and turn into this kind of international incident, if you like, the u.s. c.o.c. we expect to make a statement, brazilian police, too. i'm sure the three u.s. swimmers who are still here will be talking to police, to brazilian police and i suspect that we will begin to straighten thissous but let's be clear again, ryan lochte talking to matt lauer stuck by his story. he hasn't spoken since we've seen this security camera footage so there's more to come with this and potentially more twists. again, the swimmers up until now have been saying that their account of what happened is the truth. >> and we still don't know whether something happened after that video footage of the gas stati station. this doesn't disprove their claim, it's just adding another

twist to the story as you point out. >> that's right. exactly right. >> keir simmons, thank you so much. of course we'll be on this all day. for more on the legal question this is could raise, let's bring in ari melber. ari, first of all, if brazil tries to get ryan lochte back from the u.s., what is the extradition issue here potentially? does it depend on whether any charges are filed and then at what level the charges sfwhoub. >> absolutely. because today as we speak there are no charges although there are a lot of accounts about this story that raised legal jeopardy but no charges whatsoever against lochte. if the other swimmers who are in the country do speak and their lawyer previously told nbc news as of last night they had not but there are reports they will. if they speak to authorities they are also facing legal jeopardy there because in brazil, just like in the united states, it's illegal to mislead authorities in many circumstances. so they may want to make sure

that they don't commit a new crime or a crime today regardless of whether there was any discrepancy or public misleading information prior. so lochte would have to be charged with a real crime in the future which hasn't happened for there to be any issue of bringing him back into the country. nbc's gadi schwartz hearing from a source close to the police investigation saying there was something else going on. let's not forget, in addition to everything we know as these differing accounts surface and the dramatic video calls into question at least the timeline and potentially aspects of that evening, the authorities have a lot of information, andrea, as you well know, the olympic community, the area there, the france house where they came from for this late night party or reception, all of those places have heavy security and surveillance plus these individual phones could have gps information. so a lot of evidence for authorities to use to fact check the story. >> ari melber back at ground

base at 30 rock. thank you very much. >> sure. >> a lot of events unfolding in rio to follow. meanwhile back here at home in politics, donald trump going back to the future. in effect demoting paul manafort and putting the campaign in the hands of controversial breitbart news executive chairman steve bannon and republican pollster kelly ann conway expected to keep the focus on hillary clinto clinton. >> this is pretty late in the game but it's still august. what changes do you anticipate these leaders making in the campaign management. >> this is the second rift. they try to laken it to jim baker coming on for reagan but it's not quite the same because donald trump is down so significantly in so many polls.

but what they are hoping to do is that by bringing on bannon, bringing on kellyanne conway, two people that allow trump to be himself that he can continue with the momentum he had during the primaries. conway has been a long-time advisor to donald trump. she's had his ear for some time. she helped him with a potential gubernatorial run here in new york. bannon where the ceo of breitbart. but bannon has taken on the banner for trump, fighting his causes for him. if donald trump is having a rift with paul ryan, breitbart has pushed out a negative story on paul ryan. they've also pushed out those more fringe conspiracy theory stories when it comes to hillary clinton. so some people are seeing this as a donald trump going back to being himself. other ones are seeing it as a much darker turn towards anti-establishment politics, especially when it comes to the way they're going to go after

hillary clinton. >> indeed, katy tur, thank you so much. joel, good to see you, thank you very much. what are your concerns about in particular steven bannon from breitbart taking over this campaign? >> the normal thing you would look at in a presidential campaign is you would say he's brought on somebody who is a fringe extremist element from the extreme right wing who launches anti-semitic attacks on republicans who he disagrees with, who has doctored videos and been sued for it and trying to depict people in racist ways. normally you would say oh, a presidential candidate wouldn't go anywhere near that but now you have donald trump on the other side, a man who's mocked disabled people, talked about banning freedom this country because of their religion and it shows what kind of campaign he's going to keep running. it will be divisive and dangerous, it will keep going against the grain and fabric of our american values.

>> i want to give you a chance to rebut some of the charges that trump and some of his allies have been making, particularly about hillary clinton's health. this is donald trump with sean hannity on fox. >> let me just say, she's totally protected. i've never seen anything like it. >> by the media. >> and she doesn't really do that much. she'll give a speech on teleprompter and then she'll disappear. i don't know if she goes home and goes to sleep, i think she sleeps but -- >> takes weekends off. >> i guess she takes a lot of weekends off. she takes a lot of time off. >> she also suggested at one point she doesn't have the mental or physical stamina to go up against isis. is there an issue with hillary clinton's health? >> absolutely not and donald trump knows it. it must be driving his ego crazy that she's outworking him, outthinking him, connecting better with the american voters about the issues that matter in their life. hillary clinton flew around the world as secretary of state more than a million miles.

people saw her stamina testifying against congress for 11 hours and not waivering for one minute and, by the way, her health records -- her doctor put out four times as much information as donald trump's, a letter that donald trump's doctor reads like it was written by donald trump, the guy claimed he could attest that donald trump would be healthier than any person ever elected to the presidency. i mean, what a ludicrous thing for a physician to say. he hasn't examined a single other person other than donald trump who's running for president. it's bogus and ludicrous. >> joel, do you think you need to update what the campaign put out july 31, 2015, to rebut this definitively to give another annual report on her health? >> no, i think donald trump ought to start by putting out his health records as extensive as hillary clinton's. i think he ought to start by releasing his tax return which is he said he would do a long time ago and he hasn't. he told the american people "it's none of your business." the fact is we know four times

he paid zero in taxes so, no, i think hillary clinton is proving on the stump everyday she is outworking, outhustling and outcampaigning donald trump and it's why she's connecting with people and why she has a lead and in a strong position going into the home stretch here. >> they've also showed on social media and fox of her shaking her heads and slipping and being helped up by a secret service agent and a picture of her supposedly being injected with some sort of medication. what is the rebut toole those allegations? particularly the injection. >> those things do not even rise to a level of rebuttal. they're ludicrous, ridiculous, trumped up allegations because they have a desperate candidate

who since his convention has had his net favorable rating decline by 15 points. the man is 32 points underwater. >> but just to be responsive too the question about the injection. >> in fairness, every one of these are unsubstantiated bombs being thrown by a notorious bomb throer. that's what he's been doing and why he's alienating the american public. >> and have your secret service personnel given you an explanation for this imagery that has gone viral? >> i don't talk to secret service personnel. that's not my bailiwick, andrea. >> in terms of what you think they're trying to do with this kind of messaging, why do you think they're going after her health? she's a year younger than donald trump. >> because i think he's terribly weak right now, his ego is probably battered because he's getting battered in the polls which she used to love to cite. i think because he's a man

feeling kind of -- a little at a loss, he's been untraveling for weeks since the convention, going after the family of a fallen war hero, a man who gave his life to safe his troops for this country. he has been unraveling since his convention and i think that's showing up everyday in the reaction of the american people and in the reaction of republicans in his own party. everyday there are more republicans coming out saying i cannot support this man, business leaders, generals, national security experts and i think that what you're seeing is a man who's unraveling before the american people because he's a failed candidate and a failing campaign. >> joel benenson, thank you. we should note we have an open invitation to kelly anne conway, steve bannon or representatives from the trump campaign to explain some of this messaging as well. thank you, joel. >> thank you, andrea. coming up, the message that the new trump campaign leadership will trying to send to fellow republicans. more on that next right here on

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it's very refreshing that donald trump speaks the way many americans speak. it's not always the perfect word because it hasn't been focus group pollsters speaking in his ear enjoying conveying his thought. >> donald trump's new campaign manager, kellyanne conway, a well known republican pollster. even though attention is being paid to breitbart news executive steve bannon as the new campaign ceo, joining me now bill kristol, editor of the "weekly standard" and joy reid, host of "a.m. joy" weekends on msnbc.

welcome to you both. bill, first to you, you've been targeted by breitbart in particular. what is your reaction and the reaction of other conservatives you know for the choice to run this campaign. >> i'm anti-donald trump anyway so i'm probably not the best person to ask but it's pretty appalling. lots of people who were open to trump, talking themselves into voting for trump, the skorpt, it will be a republican administration, they really don't like hillary clinton, about two or three weeks ago people were moving towards them. you saw that in the polls, he was about even for a week, you and i discussed this at the democratic convention, he was making some gains then i think the last couple of weeks, especially the attack on the gold star parents, the khan's, but now all through the bannon appointment, if you were just a wavering voter who wanted to be reassured donald trump was up to being president, it's the opposite. it's the opposite. people didn't much like what he was saying anyway and now he's doubling down on the more extreme things he's been saying.

>> we should point out breitbart, at least the news site, referred to you as the renegade jew and republican spoiler. >> republican spoiler is fine, that's normal political rhetoric. i think it's interesting though and i have not made a big deal of it, i don't like to publicize these things but really, a piece attacking me, if you can believe it for not being pro-israel enough called "renegade jew"? is that within the normal bounds of political discourse? i've been involved in a lot of controversies for 25, 30 years, mostly with liberals and democrats, a few fellow republicans, i'm not sure that's happened before. and steven bannon is proud of editing that web site, driving its traffic up by using that rhetoric about everyone, whether it's republicans, democrats, jews, muslims. it's amazing to me, it really is genuinely amazing that the republican presidential candidate one of the two presidential candidates has this man now in a senior position.

>> as memory serves, you are not just the "weekly standard" founder and editor you were dan quayle's chief of staff when i was covering the white house back then. you've had a number of positions within the republican party and within republican white houses. >> that makes me even worse, andrea, because i was part of the terrible d.c. establishment that did no good for 25 years. it's one thing to be an outsider but it's another thing to insult people. people hoped he changed his ways, now it's clear he hasn't, i think. >> joy reid, i wanted to play a little bit of steve bannon on sirius xm radio before he was appointed to lead the campaign. >> i don't want to get into conspiracy theory but is there something -- i've just noticed over the last three or four months, she's not quite as sharp. and it's one of the reasons you don't -- you see her almost always in controlled environments. do you believe there's something up there? i'm not saying she's had a

stroke or anything like that but this is not the woman we're used to see that would come at you and get in your grill. >> that was from his own radio show. joy, what is this deal where they're going after her on her health? >> well, i think it is in the breitbart tradition whether they are mounting scurrilous and augustly attacks that you were describing against bill kristol or muslims or african-americans, what they did to shirley sherrod, what they did to acorn. you could go through the litany of what breitbart has been even before they started embracing what you call the alt right, which is a dressed up version of the american neo-nazi movement to be honest. but what they're doing is the other thing breitbart has been doing which is inventing stories out of innuendo and attempting to put flesh on the bones in the minds of people who support them. this idea of trying to present hillary clinton as an aging

dottering woman is meant to appeal to the kind of man base that they've developed over at breitbart that wants to see hillary clinton as unfit physically to be president. the problem with that is if you're trying to win an election, one of the things you want are the two -- two of the most reliable voting blocks in this country, women and older mans and they've attacked both groups by implying based on nothing that hick is somehow aged and frail so i think what they're doing is a complete disservice. now this is of course before bannon was running the campaign but it's also easily discoverable information that anyone who actually cared about donald trump's candidacy could have discovered and not hired this guy to run the campaign. >> joy, there is an argument to be made, there could be a theory, where he is trying to, you know, stay around 40%. he doesn't need more than 50% if the libertarian and green parties expand beyond 15%, let's

say, that he could defeat her if he can damage her enough and just motivate his base. is that an election strategy? >> except that they have now elevated -- his own pollster and a long time pollster kellyanne conway to be the campaign manager and she would know there's no data that suggests that strategy makes any sense. there's nothing to suggest the libertarian and green party candidate are going to get much above where they are now which is a collective 10% to 12%. in addition to that, donald trump's ceiling has been 40%. what we have to remember is that any republican candidate gets essentially a free 40% to 45% just by virtue of being the republican. donald trump has managed to underperform that. he underperforms generic republicans on the ballot. he's stuck in the 30s so you have a candidate who can't get to 40 having a strategy that says "all i need is 40" is absurd and insane. a more plausible theory is the

one floating around that maybe what he's actually doing is trying to rather than win an election just monetize the base he has. he is developing a media confab around the alt right between breitbart and roger ailes. maybe the idea here is to take whatever he's got after november 8 and turn it into another media enterprise because this is not a campaign, andrea. they don't have offices. one office in florida is not a campaign. >> and very briefly, bill kristol, what about the fact that breitbart's mo, steve bannon's mo has been to go after paul ryan and the republican leadership? does that put more pressure on ryan and mitch mcconnell to fish or cut bait? >> it's very nice for donald trump to enjoy getting 40% of the vote and plan his media empire and whip up the alleged base but what does it do to kelly ayotte in new hampshire and pat toomey in pennsylvania and rob portman in ohio? those guys can get dragged down by that. that's why i believe paul ryan, speaker of the house, reince priebus, head of the rnc, they need to sever the republican party from trump.

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now is the housing needs and getting people is someplace to stay. >> are you getting trailers in? summer we all recall after katrina the mobile homes moved into the area. what can you provide for these people. >> there's different options. in many areas people are getting back in their homes as we get a better assessment, how many people can we get emergency repairs and how many people will not be able to and then we'll look at what our options are. we already have a team with the governor's team looking at all the different options and if we bring in any type of trailers, this is standard manufactured housing, not travel trailers and we have special units above codes hud uses for universal access for people that have disabilities or functional needs so if that's required we're

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president yesterday and he was clear on his direction which i passed on to the team but he wanted to know what our big challenges were and to make sure we are committing the full scope of fema's resources to support the governor and his team. >> mr. fugate, tha you very much for the assessment of the devastation down there in louisiana. coming up, meet the press. why the campaign ropeline could be the next big olympic sport. just kidding. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. making simple, smart cash back choices... with quicksilver from capital one. you're earning unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. like on that new laptop. quicksilver keeps things simple, gary. and smart, like you! and i like that. i guess i am pretty smart. don't let that go to your head, gary. what's in your wallet?

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>> what do you think of donald trump's new hires? >> thank you so much. >> i'm having a great time here in cleveland! >> and that's what you think about his new hires? >> i'm enjoying myself. >> can you tell us how your health is. >> can i have a picture with you? >> you seem very healthy.

what about all these reports. what do you say about your health, madam secretary? when are you going to get your intelligence briefing? madam secretary, when are you going to get your intelligence briefings. >> all good to see you, my friends. >> mcin cleveland wednesday studiously avoiding any questions even as the campaign braces itself for that concentrated attack from donald trump's new campaign team. joining me now for our daily fix, an gearan, political correspondent at the "washington post" and nbc news's senior political editor mark murray. welcome both. you've been there, you know what it's like on the trail. she rarely stops to chat. she did chat with me the day before in fairness but she has not responded to this new team, robbie mook has in a briefing for all of us and on rachel maddow last night and joel

benenson. >> well, that was heroic effort you tried there yesterday. on a couple fronts that are topics of pretty wide discussion, the clinton people would complain -- are complaining bitterly that her health and stamina are being raised as issues in the campaign and they blame the same kind of what they would call right wing conspiracy, right wing news outlets for driving that story but it is a topic of conversation and not there on the ropeline at some point she'll have to address it. >> it's a very controlled campaign. she's throughout everyday, she's not taking a vacation except for weekends but there's fund-raising mixed in and events we can not cover but there's one rally a day. >> they're trying really hard to get out of donald trump's way and let him dig his own hole is their theory. the more she stays on message in tightly-controlled settings and, frankly, the less of her we see

from their perspective the better just as long as she's seen to be keeping her nose to the campaign grindstone they think they're winning. >> and the last time she took questions it was from kristen welker at the national association of black journalists with not very good results in terms of her confusing response on e-mails. mark murray, the shape of the campaign as the second shakeup from the trump team comes is that battleground states have showing a diminishing path for him to victory. >> andreandrea, you don't usual have these shakeups if you are ahead and this is the biggest tell of the news we've seen that they're trying to change the conversation or something that isn't working. whether you look at the national polls right now, state polls, networks, news organizations, battleground map, right now donald trump is trailing considerably and what i find fascinating is when you bring up the battleground map, donald trump is in the state of north

carolina. our latest poll has hillary clinton up nine points fuelled in large part by whites with college degrees and a lot of urban areas and suburban areas of north carolina. those are the areas donald trump is being crushed? >> she's nine points up in one poll in florida and marginally ahead in ohio, not as much as she is in pennsylvania. the pennsylvania result is remarkable. he's going to go up with advertising spending tomorrow. >> that's right, so we know he'll be running advertisements in five states including pennsylvania, ho, florida, north carolina and virginia. a ad orders have trickled in. seems like a smallish bye but it's a huge disparity right now. team clinton, including the super pac, have $104 million on the airwaves late june. the team trump only his super pac has $12 million. up until this point the trump

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to. what is the state now as the united nations investigates these alleged chemical attacks. >> so the report you're talking about, nbc news a few days ago was given access to this underground facility and we were using a cameraman that was giving us pictures from inside this bunker of a hospital and unfortunately there's been -- the latest victim, the latest symbol of the war in aleppo, he was being treated in that very same facility. a reportedly five-year-old boy. liz injuries, luckily, not life threatening. he's already been released. his parents want to take him outside of the city but it was his image, this young boy, his feet barely able to -- barely hanging over the edge of the seat he was in in the back of an

ambulance covered in dust, in total shell shock, wiping the blood away from his own face, his face covered in dust, that image has been tweeted around the world today and he's come to represent the people of aleppo. it's a heartbreaking image, it's been an image that many people have shared, the question is will it change anything? we've seen these iconic images come in the past, that was year ago where there was the terrible image of the young boy washed up on a beach in turkey, you dihe n the refugee trail now we have another image and without any kind of plan in place to top the fighting in aleppo i think we could have more of these wakeup moments. we keep having wakeup moments yet nobody seems to be waking up. >> i was going to say, your reporting, your extraordinary

reporting, your courageous team and these images and all the pictures that we get from the resistance, when is the world going to pay attention to this war? >> well, it is -- it's been more than five years and the images have been heartbreaking, this latest one a young, very sweet-looking child, terrified, silent, being incredibly brave, it's getting people's attention. it's a wakeup call but you think, well, tomorrow there will be some sort of new image and we'll talk about it and nothing else will change? in aleppo right flow there are several hundred thousand people who are besieged. they are under attack, they are surrounded in many cases starving. there has been this proposition today to allow some sort of cease-fire perhaps for 48 hours. these propositions have been

made in the past but very little has been done so frankly it's incredibly disheartening. you would hope that awareness would help. you would hope by doing reports and putting them on tv and talking about them that people would wake up, they would see, they would feel and maybe call for action. and the calls are being made but the action isn't being taken. >> not for lack of your trying, thanks so much, richard engel. thanks for everything you're doing. this is not unrelated. national security 101. behind the scenes of that classified intelligence briefing that donald trump received. we'll be right back. they feel good?

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>> donald trump received his first classified intelligence briefing at the fbi office in new york city, a secure facility yesterday. his advisors accompanying him, retired lieutenant general michael flynn and new jersey

governor chris christie joining him at the two-hour meeting. only two hours earlier trump was slamming the intelligence community. >> do you trust intelligence? >> not so much from the people that have been doing it for our country. look what's happened over the last 10 years. look what's happened over the years. i mean, it's been catastrophic. i won't use some of the people that are your standards, just use them, use them, use them. i'm very easy to use them but i won't because they've made such bad decisions. >> david priest is a former cia officer and author of a book "the president's book of secrets, the unfold story of intelligence briefings to america's presidents from kennedy to obama." great to meet you. so what would be the format of what we know? >> these briefings are conversational affairs held in a classified space but it's between the director of the intelligence community, jim clapper or one of his deputies then a couple substantive briefers.

they'll sit down and chat with the candidate and others the candidate brings to talk these overviews of international situations from a classified point of view. >> and what they are prenting j general clapper said he's sending appointees, not himself. but it would be similar to the threat matrix they annually present to the intelligence communities publicly and in a classified setting more detail in private. >> this is a briefing that doesn't include really sensitive material, sources, methods of collections. >> none of the espionage, no nuclear weaponry issues. >> you won't have counterintelligence and covert operations. these are assessments of the hot spot issues around the globe. what is our assessment of isil, that's probably in there. what's going on inside china. what's going on on the ground in syria. those are the kinds of things that would be here. >> what do you say to donald trump about vladimir putin? what is your assessment? the cia does analysis of who are

the people around putin, former kgb around putin i've been told. who are the people advising him? what is his psychology? here you have a man who's praised putin. how do you deal with that? >> this is a clash intelligence officers have always faced. you have policymakers more to this case candidates who have pre-conceived notions, who have their own input on these issues then you come to them with the objective analysis based on factors seen by the intelligence community, here are the assessments of those issues, sometimes those clash and when they do it's up to the policy maker to say, o.k., i'll take that into account or up to the intelligence officials to realize we're not getting through, we need to make sure we present our best assessment to assure they understand. >> i'm told these two candidates, even though their experience in government is vastly different, will get the same briefing. what differs is what questions

they may ask. in your book you reveal, among past presidents, jimmy carter asked a lot of questions. >> he did. in these election briefings they have the opportunity to get the same information as the other candidate but, of course, the session will be different. some candidates might sit back and listen. others might ask a thousand questions. if new information comes out because of those questions then the intelligence officials provide that same information to the other candidate and there's a reason, intelligence services are supposed to be scrupulously neutral when it comes to the election and they don't want to have the perceptions but of political bias in these briefings. >> just to be clear, once the person is elected, the president-elect then gets the pdb? >> that's by custom. >> the crown jewels. >> the president has done that. they have given the president's daily brief, the book of secrets that i wrote about, that has gone to the president elects right after the election every time with one exception and that was the year 2000. we didn't know who the president-elect was, al gore

continued to get the pdb as vice presidt, george w.ush was read in a few weeks later. >> great to talk to you. >> great to be here. >> all these secrets, thanks so much, david priest. more ahead. we'll be back in a moment. tween. for partners in health, time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world. the microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and work together in real time to help those that need it. the ability to collaborate changes how we work. what we do together changes how we live. when you ache and haven't you're not you. tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. we give you a better night. you're a better you all day. tylenol®.

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it's only until september 27th. is it bloomin' great here, or what? and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." thomas roberts picks up next. follow us @mitchellreports. i was fascinated during your hour talking about what happened in rio, calling it watergate, it really is. not this crime but the coverup. great to see you and we are going start on thomas roberts live at msnbc world headquarters in new york. it's 1:00 p.m. in the east, but just 2 just after 2:00 p.m. in rio. three u.s. gold medal swimmers are stnded there, all teammates of ryan lochte. this is new video just into us showing swimmers and olympic officials arriving at the police station. the "new york times" is reporting the fo