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aetna was upset on something federal regulators did. didn't aetna lose $200 million? >> they will lose on the obamacare exchanges. >> 200 million. >> yes. >> don't call him dr. dave. you don't want someone respo responding. hi. i'm dr. dave. okay. stephanie picks up the coverage. >> thanks. have a great weekend. good morning. i'm stephanie. we have breaking news. back in the u.s.a. two of the american swimmers kept that brazil still in the country, one more left behind, what he has to do to get out and details on what really happened that night. police saying their story of a robbery is a complete lie and
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police have the video to prove it. a trump apology. many said it would never happen, but he went there last night. >> i do regret it, particularly where it may have caused personal pain. >> they release the first ad of the general election this morning. >> hillary clinton's america is system stays rigged against americans. the state department saying they held a $400 million payment to iran. republicans are pouncing. >> talk about pay for play for exchange. a new report says the former
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secretary of state encouraged here to use her personal e-mail. the fallout of that this morning. two out of three american swimmers held for questioning are back in the u.s. landing moments ago in miami. the third olympian still in rio. he is being ordered to pay $11,000 to a brazilian charity before he can leave the country. we have it all covered. i want to take you to brazil first. ron is there. give us the latest on fagan. this is the third swimmer still in rio! while he spent a part of his night to clear his name and to clear his case, if you will.
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so he agreed to that fine, if you will. it's a donation that's going to charity. it is going to a judo academy. there are a lot of kids interested in that sport. so that will go to support that program. he was given his passport back and scheduled to take a flight out of rio back to the u.s. that's the latest. i wanted to show you the lay of the land. this is the center of the controversy. this is where the taxi pulled into the gas station. i'll walk down this small walkway but it leads to bathrooms. you can see promotional posters. there is one here that is no longer there. gas station employees allege the swimmers knocked that off the wall. back across this driveway, the ally here, there are three signs here. a sign says closed, do not enter. they allege that the swimmers
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damaged some of the mirrors and soap dispenser inside. let's show you the time line. 5:47 a.m. there is video of the swimmers leaving club france. they made a pit stop here at the gas station. a minute later at 6:08 they immerged from this gas station bath room. at 6:09 they were approached by a security guard and the security guard pulled his gun and that's where we ended up with this confrontation. ryan lochte had that interview with billy bush. >> i want to bring this to you with brad, the chief brazilian correspondent. i want to talk rio and brazil for a moment. when you actually break down
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what happened, how big of a deal was the incident? is brazil making such a big deal because it is about pride? >> reporter: in a sense, yes. this is just another in a series of what i would call the ugly american incidents. i have been here about a decade. there have been a series of these sorts of incidents that are, you know, perhaps relatively minor. nobody was hurt but are carried out by visiting americans, by visiting prominent americans and they try to get away scot-free. that's the feeling here on the ground is these guys try to get away with something because they are americans. there is a lot of anger. >> i want to talk about this $11,000. it's not like a ticket paid and going to the city of rio. is this normal practice? >> it is normal practice in
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brazil because a lot of these small or what we call misdemeanor-type offenses are dealt with in this type of way. it's not like you have community service and then you pick a charity. that's how they resolve small matters like that down there. it doesn't feel small because of all of the international attention. the underlying incident is a minor offense. >> staying on the international attention the u.s.o. put out a statement apologizing to rio. how far would it go to have the four swimmers come out on tv and publicly apologize for their actions. it's this ugly sentiment. >> i'm married to brazilians. i know it very well. that's what i hear. they are like why don't they just say we are sorry? that would soothe everything. it would go a long way in
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resolving this situation. >> all right, brad. >> all right. brad is talking feelings. ryan lochte has not changed his testimony! we have been talking about the intersection of law and this incident of what brazil wants to get out of it. when we were speaking about this brazil tried to basically publicly fact check this not to send people to jail but to have legal reckoning. i think it is very unlikely he would ever be formally charged to raise the level of extradition. but, yes, i i this the tv implication, it has been an international tv story. ryan's legal jeopardy may
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decrease which reduces any idea that he may talk. he spoke a lot about the alleged incident. now that this is being cleared up you would expect it is the appropriate time to speak again. >> i doubt this is completely over. thank you for joining us. we'll take you now to politics, a rare admission from donald trump. in a rally last night the republican nominee expressed regret for the first time during the campaign for some of the devicive comments he has made. >> some times in the heat of debate and speaking on a multitude of issues you don't choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. i have done that. and believe it or not i regret
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it, and i do regret it, particularly where it may have caused personal pain. >> jacob is covering the campaign for us from d.c. let's be clear. he didn't say i'm sorry but he did say i regret. >> those of us kofrg donald trump for many months or even longer gasp to what he said. who is he apologizing to saying he regretted things. she said he was talking about anyone who feels offended by anyone that he said and she did in the know if he was personally going to reach out to anybody that he offended. so there's that if you were wondering about who he was talking about specifically. now, there's a lot to talk in there because we have seen trump. it seems almost pivot several
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times. trump 4.0. what are we on now? it seems like the last real chance if he really wants to gain back any of his losses. we'll wait and see. we won't say whether or not it will stick. >> and a great way to offend your opponent. we are seeing the first election tv ad. what can you tell us about it? >> right. these are must-win states. we are talking about florida, ohio, pennsylvania. i'm looking at the numbers here. they add up to about $4 million. he is being outspent by hillary clinton by about a million dollars. the sad is doubling down on the cry sies ovisis overseas. take a listen to some of that ad. >> in hillary clinton's america the system stays rigged against americans. i'll legal immigrants convicted
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of committing crimes get to stay. donald trump's america is secure. the borders secured, our families safe. >> this is a message that he knows will rez nate. it is high on the minds of voters. i have been thinking about this and trying to look it up. i found what it was that trump said about pivoting a few days ago. he said i don't want to change. i don't want to pivot. i mean you have to be you . mixed messages. it was only on monday. yesterday the line of regret is campaign manager says it was all him. he went over the speech and added those words. >> he used a pen. he must be serious. thanks for joining us. right now we are closely watching this runway in baton rouge, louisiana for mr. donald
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trump. he is coming there to see the damage from the deadly floods in that state. we'll have more in a live report coming up. donald trump seized -- the obama administration saying they did not bay a ransom for the release of four american prisoners there. take a listen to the president. >> we didn't pay ransom. if we did we would start encouraging americans to be targeted. >> he was pretty clear, but for the first time yesterday the administration knowledged that the 400 million was used as quote leverage and timed to the release of the four american prisoners. andrea mitchell has the di tails. >> donald trump and republicans
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are raising cane today about the knowledgeable that the u.s. held onto $400 million of iran's cash until three american prisoners had been released. the state department insisting it was just using leverage. there was rn the iranian would hold onto washington post reporter's wife. they are asking whether that money was for the return of the americans. they say it was a positive effect of the iran nuclear deal last summer, not part of the
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deal itself. the timing was just coincident. congress is promising hearings into all of this. coming up, is this a new trump? we have going back down on how his new campaign team may finally be getting donald trump on message. plus, the worst natural disaster in america since super storm sandy. trump is coming to visit, why isn't the president? we are awaiting donald trump's arrival at the airport just minutes from now. here... or here. today, there's a new option. introducing drug-free aleve direct therapy. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its wireless remote lets you control the intensity.
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hillary clinton never tells the truth. >> that was donald trump asking voters to overlook his some times controversial statements he says because he simply never learned the language of political insiders. rick tyler is a political analyst and national spokesperson. good morning. >> good morning. >> i want to talk about the speech last flight. if a republican tuned in for the first time ever seeing donald trump as the gop nominee, was that a man who could win? >> it is hard to see how we would win. this is like groundhog day all over again. we'll have to keep doing it until he gets it right. this is the new and improved sugar free, fat free, gluten
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free except it is all made of artificial political ingredients. i'm some what of an expert here. when you make an apology you don't read it from a teleprompter. when you say something that's offensive on twitter, there was no heat of battle. you had time to contemplate what you were going to say and he did it over and over and over again. in a debate he compared ben carson to a pedophile. it wasn't specific about what he was apologizing for, i give this one an f. >> they have 15 offensive things he has said over the last year. he wasn't specific about anything but could simply saying
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i'm sorry people's feelings are hurt, could it wipe out this year's controversy? >> people do not give credit for changing. if you lose credibility with somebody you have to earn it back. it may take a long time. the other thing, the purpose of apology is to knowledge someone paid a price for something you did wrong either in terms of emotional pain or in terms of hurting someone's reputation. it is unclear who donald trump was apologizing to. he could have stopped in his speech and said i want to say something right here and taken a break from it. it didn't work for me. >> and you're also assuming this is a normal election. when you use words like credibility and calculating, these are words that also plagued hillary clinton. and donald trump's new campaign
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manager, i want you to hear what she had to say about donald trump's new strategy! right. >> there are a lot of people in this country who said they have a reason to vote against hillary clinton. there is some reluctance there. they need reasons to vote for donald trump. >> so hillary clinton not a perfect candidate. people need reasons to vote for donald trump. right now we can show you live pictures. mike pence just arrived in baton rouge. donald trump will be by his side. they are there to meet with some of those victims. one could argue this is a presidential thstrategic move o their part. >> i have a lot of respect for kel i kel kel kellyanne but i think donald trump's biggest problem is not the specific groups. they say we have to earn the
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hispanic vote. he is certainly hurting in these areas for sure. the biggest overwhelming thing is most people see him as unquali unqualified. hillary clinton has her own problems. the problem is donald trump keeps stepping on the story and doesn't allow the press to conference her issues as much as these issues. got all kinds of things from jobs reports to now this admitted $400 million that was given to the iranians. there is a lot of stuff that could be talked about. donald trump can't seem to get out of his own way. >> i feel like your message here is it's simply too late. if you look at donald trump trailing in all 11 battleground states, addressing this is not going to do it, is that what you're saying? >> it is down double digits in
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vir aginia and ohio. hillary is within 6 points in texas. it could be a double digit race and she is close in georgia. it is hard to see how he makes all of this up. something dramatic has to change. it has to be a big negative on hillary. i don't know what donald trump could do to close those gaps. >> and trump campaign releasing their first ad. it is on national security coming up today. is that the right strategy? is that a weak spot he could continue to push on? >> it is her weak spot. the middle east is a mess. it all happened under barack obama's watch. she was secretary of state. it doesn't seem to be getting any better. a lot of people, even hillary's allies, have had a hard time pointing to specific accomplishments she has had. if you look to the 90s hillary
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and bill have gone through a lot of scandals. i don't know what would come out on hillary that would be worse than everything we have heard about her in the past that would make people change their mind about her. >> with 80 plus days to go i'm sure a lot more for you and i to talk about. >> all right. we'll take you no real quick, mike pence on the tarmac. up next we'll take you live to the flood zone in louisiana. we are weight for donald trump to arrive any moment. there is growing anger that president obama has not cut his vacation in nantucket short to go down himself. and power plants account for more than a third of energy-related carbon emissions. the challenge is to capture the emissions before they're released into the atmosphere. exxonmobil is a leader in carbon capture. our team is working to make this technology better, more affordable
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will tour damage, that as president obama faces serious criticism for remaining on vacation in martha's vineyard. they published an editorial titled, vacation or not, a hurting louisiana needs you now, president obama. we are live from the baton rouge airport. are officials welcoming trump's visit? >> reporter: mike pence arriving here moments ago. this visit, we learned about it late yesterday. it seemed to be a surprise that many of the local officials here. we do see a heavy security presence here. there are law enforcement officials here from livingston parish. we don't know exactly where donald trump and mike pence will be touring but they will be
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here. billy, yesterday, was very supportive of the government's response so far. so far more than 86,000 applications for federal aid. as you mentioned, president obama facing a lot of criticism for not cutting his vacation short in martha's vineyard. he played nine rounds of golf two weeks ago. he has said that the federal government is monitoring the situation. yesterday homeland security secretary was here and said that the president could not be everywhere but he was watching the situation very closely. he made the point last night on msnbc that presidential visits can take up a lot of resources. while he was welcomed here he also made the point he would see him in 10 to 14 days when the disaster played out just a bit tlchlt is politics but also the
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victims of all of this. there is still standing water in parts of southern louisiana. a lot of water has already moved south. we spoke with several victims yesterday. you saw them on this broadcast. they are still cleaning up from this disaster. it will be a long time before this area can rebuild, stephanie. >> a long time before the area can rebuild. we were just showing you images. in just a few minutes donald trump, we'll be joining him. it is time to take you to the morning primer, everything you need to know to start your day. we'll kick off with the latest of course on the ryan lochte story. the third u.s. swimmer will leave brazil today but only after paying nearly $11,000 to a
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local charity. the state department now admitting a $400 million cash payment was contingent on the release of four american prisoners in january. criticics say it amounts to r ransom. the there in california firefighters making progress on a wild fire 60 miles east of los angeles. the flames are 22% contained. and catch him if you can, the fastest man alive, crushing the computation in the 200 meters. blink and you'll miss the race. bolt says rio will be his last olympics. and up next, two of the
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american swimmers now back in the u.s. and a third still trying to get out. here is a question this morning, how much money is ryan lochte going to lose? could he lose his swimming future? could be millions. we'll see after this. i don't know, i just always thought maybe my bachelor party would be a little less g-rated. wench! ahhh! ahhh hahaha... oooh! party time! party boy! ok, ok. mm hm, party time. hmm, mmm, mmm...
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lease a broloom joining me via skiep. feigen is donating money and ryan lochte is already back in the states but hasn't changed his story. is he in the clear from a legal standpoint? >> i don't think he is necessarily in the clear because he hasn't done what police are trying to get at, tell the truth, apologize, make a donation to a worthy cause so poor kids in brazil can play judo and let's move along. i'm sure the police will probably follow up with him. i don't think they will extradite him back to brazil but i think they want something from him. >> from a legal perspective we know what has been done. it is following the olympics. these types of athletes score big dollars. if you look at speedo, ralph
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lauren, could he lose the sponsorships? >> absolutely. they can't score advertising gold with a tainted brush. it is likely he will not only see corporations walk away from him but his legacy be forever tainted by these false allegations. >> could he lose his swimming future? he has got to build a campaign so he can get to the 2020 olympics. are people going to want to lie with him? >> he has attack add country with an already weakened committee. what it is about is him not really putting brazil as a country first. their tourism product is what they live by. they already had a weakened economy. the perception was already that
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it might not be the safest place and what the allegations have done is really further deepened the consumer's trust of the region. >> and this is much about brazil and brazilians pride. they did so much to make people feel safe and here we have sort of the ugly american. what does the action by lochte do to u.s./brazilian relations? >> as somebody who traveling internationally you have to keep in mind when you're abroad you're a guest in the host country. you don't disrespect your host. in this case brazil and rio spent years and millions, if not billions of dollars doing their best to put on the olympics. what ryan lochte and his friends appear to have done is
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vandalized the bathroom, urinated on the floor and made false allegations about a security guard which implied there was police corruption too. we already have a bad image as the ugly americans, that we are arrogant and think we can get away with disrespecting anyone. they have a right to be disrespected by this behavior. they are asking for a donation to charity and it will clear the whole thing up. >> will it clear the whole thing up? when lisa says you don't disrespect your host, it almost sounds like the way i talk to my children. do the kids need to apologize now? >> absolutely. he brought others along with him. these younger swimmers are also
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damaged in this. he absolutely needs to apologize to americans, his family, apologize to swimmers and to the american people. this really deeply impacts him. it seems as if it wasn't enough for him to be an olympian but he wanted to be a hero of a staged robbery. that's unfortunate. >> can you say sorry for that and people believe it? >> a absolutely lied. there was no reason for this action to begin with. he is going to have to show years and years of trust before we trust him again. >> well, i think he can sit down and show contrition. it has to be genuine and it has to be real. >> i think he should definitely do that. >> all right. thank you so much. we appreciate it. next up, what hillary clinton says powell told her she could do with her e-mail. >> and we are keeping an eye on
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development in this ongoing issue that continues to ov overshadow clinton's campaign. >> it was announce that had the clinton foundation will no longer take foreign or corporate donations. bill clinton will no longer be doing paid speeches. why the shift? why now? >> the clinton campaign was coming under a lot of pressure. it seems to show overlap between aids and the state department. they were trying to set up donors to the clinton foundation. it raised questions whether there was a quid pro quo. it is something officials have pushed back against. the political fire storm it was causing was overshad kowing her campaign. it is an attempt to turn the
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for the first time, the obama administration is admitting they held up a $400 million payment to iran until four americans had been returned. but officials still insist this was not ransom or a quid pro quo. take a listen. >> given the fact that iran hadn't proved completely trustworthy in the past, it would have been imprudent and irresponsible for us to not, since we knew this payment was coming and coming soon, to not hold it up until we made sure we had our americans out. >> wouldn't you agree that a reasonable observer could look
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upon a situation in which cash is withheld until prisoners are released as something akin to ransom. >> well an observer, whoever he or she may be, can look at this however they want. >> that's me. i'm an observer. i want you to help me. joining me now is hillary man, former u.s. negotiator with iran under president george w. bush, coauthor of "going to tehran, why america must accept the islamic republic of iran." good morning. help me out here. >> good morning. >> john kirby says the money was used as leverage. it was not ransom. what is the difference? >> there -- i think it is a distinction without a difference. i mean, there is -- of course, a narrative that it is ransom. that's the worst word you could put on it. but it seems to me that the administration is really ducking something so much more important, which is that in a lot of ways, this was a brilliant masterful feat of diplomacy. they peacefully resolved a crisis situation with a country within -- with which we have been essentially in a cold war,
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and sometimes a hot war, for 35 years. but because the iran is so vilified in american domestic politics, even the obama administration, even after making a deal with iran, seems very lreticent, very cautious abo about admitting any kind of normal transaction with the iranians. >> whether they admit it or not, couldn't this appear to a regular person, just like me, that they paid to make this happen, and if they did, what does that say to the rest of the world? >> i think it very much depends on who and how this narrative is really put out there at this point. it's really a critical point. and i think at this -- right now, the idea that it's ransom is really taking hold. but there is the other narrative, that this was brilliant diplomacy. and you can contrast it with some obvious facts. for example, earlier this year, there was a huge problem with u.s. sailors that had gone into iranian territory, and we thought that they were going to be held hostage by the iranians. they were released pretty quickly and not a dime was paid.
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so the idea that the obama administration paid ransom here is something i think political opponents are using against the administration and the administration just isn't defending itself. >> would you call it ransom? >> no, i would call it part of a settlement. it was a settlement, in fact, that the reagan administration really brought about by issuing an executive order here to put this into the haig. it's part of a settlement which could have been upward of $10 billion, had we lost this court case, which we were likely to lose. and a lot of ways, we got a bargain and peacefully resolved a dispute that otherwise could have ended badly. >> why do you think we were likely to lose it when you yourself were involved as a negotiator. many have made the argument, why would the united states of america, give money, even if it was originally iran's money, but give money to a country that sponsors terrorist activities? >> well, you know, president carter initially negotiated this with the iranians and president
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reagan implemented it most forcefully with his own executive order that took this case out of u.s. courts and put it into the haig, where they have been deliberating about it now for years. and the issue for the obama administration was that the court in the haig was about to pronounce a verdict in favor of iran that would have cost us upward of $10 billion. in this case, we have had to pay $1.7 billion. so in a lot of ways this is a bargain. >> if it was a bargain where we paid only $400 million and we brought those american lives home, why not come out with it and in a much more clear way weeks ago when president obama spoke. it was as though he dismissed it. >> you have really put your finger i think on the critical issue. part is that iran is vilified in domestic politics and part is the presidential race. i'm not sure we actually would have reached an agreement with iran if hillary clinton had still been secretary of state at that time. she was not very welcoming of a
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negotiation with iran, and i'm not sure she would have done it this way. and i wonder whether the obama administration is giving her some space, some room, to distance herself from this policy and really put obama's legacy in some ways at risk. >> but hold on a moment. is that the right thing to do for the white house, to be communicating in certain ways for how it should appear for hillary clinton, who is running for president? we know that president obama is in her camp. but we're talking about his actions and how he communicates with the american people. >> i think the consequence of this could be very serious. it could not only squander president obama's legacy of peacefully resolving our difference with iran over the nuclear issue, but i think it could further erode our position in the middle east and increase the problems we have there. i think it is a very, very risky tack to take. but i can't really explain it other than for the politics here in the united states. it has very little to do with iran. >> hillary, thank you so much for joining me this morning. hillary man levy writ. >> thank you. still to come, donald trump
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