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and i have to say, i love this state. i have businesses in this state. they're great businesses. and we're going to take care of this state and we're going to take care of this country. but first, let's talk about our amazing veterans. veterans. the commonwealth of virginia is home to about 800,000 veterans who have served bravely our country. to all veterans here tonight and across this nation, thank you very much. thank you, thank you. we will never let you down. we will never let you down.
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government is letting you down very badly right now. we are never, ever going to let our great veterans down. the obama/clinton administration has betrayed our veterans and it's betrayed them very badly. veterans are dying waiting for simple care. they're dying online waiting to see a doctor. five days, six days, seven days. it all ends, and it ends fast under a trump administration. i have a detailed 10 point plan on veterans reform available on my web site, which everybody is talking about, and the veterans
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love. check it out. at the center of the plan is veterans' choice. the v.a. will remain a public system because it is really, a public trust. but veterans will have the right to either seek care at the v.a. facility and if they can't get it and get it quickly, they have the right to go to a private doctor or medical clinic across the street and we'll take care of it. never again will we allow a veteran to die waiting for the care that they need and they should be getting more than anybody. a trump administration will also rebuild our sadly depleted
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military. sadly depleted. the best way to keep our troops out of harm's way and to keep our nation out of preventable conflicts is to remember those famous words, very, very famous words, peace through strength. unfortunately, our active duty armed forces have shrunk from 2 million in 1991 to 1.3 million today, a big, big reduction. the navy has shrunk from over 500 ships to 272 ships during the same period of time. think of that. so sad.
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the air force is about one-third smaller than it was in 1991. president obama has proposed a 2017 defense budget that in real dollars cuts nearly 25% from what we were spending in 2011. we face threats as never, ever before but the obama/clinton administration is determined to keep shrinking our military until you know ultimately is going to happen and it's not going to be good. that i can tell you.
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president obama has said that he thinks the greatest threat we face is global warming. remember, president obama and hillary clinton sometimes refer to as crooked hillary, can't even say the words radical islamic terrorism. can't even say it. they don't want to get involved. everybody knows what's happening. they can't say the words. now, while president obama and hillary clinton are shrinking america's military, they're also expanding, think of it, expanding through allowing it to happen, the military of iran.
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they're doing this with a disastrous deal that puts iran on the path to nuclear weapons and gives them another $150 billion not to mention the $400 million in cash which turned out to be a ransom payment after all. just like i said. in other words, our president lied to us. he lied to us. but let's also not forget that hillary clinton's disastrous middle east policies unleashed isis on to the world. a fact for which hillary clinton has expressed zero remorse and no apologies. she will never be able to fix the isis problem that her policies created. for one thing, she doesn't have
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the strength or the stamina coupled with all of the other problems that this country has and we have a lot. yet as our military was depleted on hillary clinton's watch, things turned out really well for her and only her. the clintons made $60 million in gross income while she was secretary of state. plus countless more to the phony clinton foundation. it's called pay for play. she even created an illegal private e-mail server, one easily hacked by our foreign enemies, to hide her corrupt
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dealings. then -- then she deleted 33,000 e-mails to try and cover her tracks. these were the e-mails for the wedding and for yoga classes. 33,000 e-mails. would we like to see what was on those e-mails? she lied about it all, even to congress. a trump administration will end the government corruption once
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and for all. no one will be above the law. let's talk about another major issue right here in virginia. it's called energy. energy. i visited the hard working coal miners in this state and they are hard working and they love being coal miners and that's what they want to do. they're tremendous, hard working people who only want to be able to do their jobs, provide for their families, and give power to this country. we are going to put our great miners and steel workers back to work. but hillary clinton wants to put
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them out of a job. you know her statement made not so long ago. out of a job. let's repeat her infamous words. because this is exactly what she said. put a lot of coal miners and coal companies that employ a lot of people, folks, a lot of people. and a lot of people right here in virginia. put them out of business. out of business. that's what she wants to do. so sad. according to the energy information administration, the united states has the largest recoverable coal resources in the world. we're talking clean coal. beautiful, clean coal. these reserves are located in virginia, west virginia, kentucky, pennsylvania, and
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illinois to name a few examples. over 90% of u.s. coal is used for electricity. in other words, my plan will make your energy bill much less expensive. much, much cheaper. hillary clinton's anti-energy agenda is a massive tax on the poor. it's also a massive tax on the people of virginia and the people of our country. in january 2016, the obama administration announced a moratorium on new coal leases on federal lands. this comes on the heel of many other anti-coal regulations from the obama administration. virginia, the largest exporter of coal in the united states,
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will be crushed by these obama/clinton policies. crushed. it's going to have a huge negative impact on virginia. thanks to obama/clinton agenda, experts from the port of virginia, the largest for coal exportation, you know that. the largest. they export more than any other place, tremendous number of jobs. largest in the country have to climb significantly. in fact, at record numbers over the last three years. then you won't have any jobs. virginia has seen a stunning 70% decline in coal jobs since 1990. hillary clinton will finish the mining industry off for good. there will no longer be an industry. and we're not going to let that happen. not going to let it.
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according to the heritage foundation, by 2030, the obama/clinton energy restrictions will eliminate another half a million manufacturing jobs, reduce economic output to $2.5 trillion and reduce incomes by $7,000 per person. meaning you're going to be making a lot less money years from now than you make right now. a trump administration will end the obama/clinton war on the american worker. we will unleash an energy revolution the likes of which we have never seen before. according to the institute for energy research, lifting the restrictions on all sources of american energy will do a lot of
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things. one, it will increase gdp by more than $100 billion annually. money we desperately need. add over 500,000 new and high paying jobs annually. increase annual wages over the next seven years. think of that. increase federal revenues by almost $6 trillion over four decades. the next longer period of time. doesn't that sound good to you,
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folks? doesn't that sound good? hillary clinton will make america poor. yew goi you're going to lose your jobs. you're going to lose your wages. you're going to lose your medical. obamacare is a catastrophe. you're going to lose everything. i want to make america wealthy again. agriculture, especially in virginia. farmers are the backbone of america. there are a lot. a lot of jobs and forestry,
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combined, provide over 400,000 jobs right here in the commonwealth. and i have one of the largest wineries on the east coast in charlottesville. provide a lot of jobs at that winery and doing great business but the massive regulations and epa interventions from the obama/clinton administration have devastated america's farmers. agriculture and workers between environmental controls, regulations, many of which are not necessary, it's devastating to the farmer. devastating. hillary clinton supports every last job killing obama regulation and wants to go much,
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much further. the farms will be closed. she wants to put the farmers out of business, just like she wants to put the miners and steel workers out of business, and we're not going to let it happen. we're doing the opposite. in fact, hillary clinton's $1.3 trillion tax hike would raise taxes on family farms to as much as nearly 50% more than they're paying now. 50%. she even wants to tax them again at death by as much as 45%. the death tax. and the death tax is a very, very big weapon and war on farmers. a trump administration will be
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pro agriculture 100%. i just announced the new members of my agriculture advisory committee and they include virginia's very own congressman bob goodlap. where's bob? he's around here someplace. together, we're going to work on reforms to support our family farms and boost agricultural production in record levels. we'll be exporting our product. we will be so proud of what we're doing again. that begins with hiring a pro farmer, pro american energy head at a very destructive epa. it also means i am going to eliminate the destructive and
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invasive waters of the united states rule that was unilater unilaterally issued by the administration and that is a job killer like never before. this is so extreme, it gives federal agencies control over creeks and small streams. even puddles on your private property. you can't do business anymore. i'm also going to cut taxes for family farms down to 15% from 35% on top of that, we are going to end that death tax on family farms which has truly really and i mean really hurt this great american industry and frankly, family farms, manufacturing, you can look at any industry we
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want. american business tax will be cut from 35% to 15% and new jobs will flow into our country again. then by unleashing american energy including clean coal, we are going to make it easier and cheaper and less expensive to produce saving money. we are going to produce like never before. saving money for consumers all the way up and down the line. this will give america the competitive edge it desperately needs. we are losing so badly to other countries. our jobs are gone. everything is gone. everything's gone. it's going to change and it's going to change fast. finally, on this subject, when
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we negotiate trade deals, we will make sure they are going to be fair and balanced. no more one-sided trade deals where we open our markets but they close their markets. no more trade deals when we can't get product into their country but they can dump all the product they want into ours. no more. another issue i'd like to address briefly today is very important to everyone in this day. it's called law and order. i was honored to meet today with stanford county sheriff's deputy
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brandon boyle who sustained five gunshot wounds this summer in the line of duty and by the way, let's give a great big hand to our police and law enforcement. i want to thank all of those in law enforcement generally for the unbelievable job they do. thank you. we mean this, from the bottom of my heart, we are standing with you. and i am very proud. i have to say, to have the support of almost, that i know of, almost the entire law
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enforcement community. so important. so we're talking about a lot of different transactions going on. hillary clinton banking on her friend, terry mccallif on getting violent felons to the voting booth to cancel out the votes of law enforcement and crime victims. they are letting people vote in your virginia election that should not be allowed to vote. that is sad. so sad. at the same time, hillary clinton wants to essentially
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abolish the second amendment for law-abiding americans. she wants to overturn the supreme court ruling that affirmed the second amendment as a private right so that any city or state in this country can ban private gun ownership. nra gave me the earliest endorsement they've ever given and appoint judges that will protect your freedom. we will appoint great, great justices for the supreme court of the united states. one more issue central to law
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and order is having a secure immigration system. failed governor and he was a failed governor, tim kaine. whose watch during, remember this, during his watch, virginia's unemployment rate more than doubled and his first, his first move as the governor of the state was to raise taxes by $4 billion. first week. he also oversaw a huge increase in illegal immigration. a tremendous increase. and remember what i said.
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tim kaine proposed nearly a $4 billion tax increase and that's what they're going to be doing to you again. it's a tax increase. it's what's going to happen. she's already said it. massive tax increases for everybody. and you had a governor who did it in his first week. a governor who wasn't even popular with the people of virginia. tax increases. bringing in lots of immigration. and he didn't even know what he was bringing in. so people earning as little as 17,000 a year had to pay more tax. overall, the illegal immigrant population in virginia has nearly tripled since 2000. putting enormous pressure on
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schools and public services. nearly tripled. we're going to build a wall. don't worry. we're going to build a wall. don't worry. we're going to build a wall. we're going to build the wall and mexico is going to pay for the wall. believe me. 100%. believe me. and that will be very easy. that will be very, very easy. politicians think we're joking. we don't joke. we don't joke. this is a movement. this is a movement.
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and movements don't joke. believe me. it's getting worse now as thousands of recent border crossers are being relocated to the state of virginia. and you don't know who they are. you don't know where they come from. even your government officials know nothing about them for the most part. you have no idea what's going on and our president and hillary clinton, they don't have a clue. we have got to be so smart. so tough and so vigilant or we're not going to have a country anymore folks. the people hurt most by our open border, our low income hispanic
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and african-americans who are competing for jobs and community resources against new arrivals. our open borders are also being used as a recruiting tool for criminal gangs creating a growing gang problem right here in the state of virginia where large numbers of gang members are in our country illegally. right here in the state of virginia. we are going to end this chaos and restore peace, law, and order to our land. finally today, i'd like to address an issue of great and very deep personal importance to me. in recent days, across this country, i've asked the
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african-american community to honor me with their vote. i fully recognize the outreach to the african-american community is in an area where the republican party must do better and will do better. the gop is the party of abraham lincoln. and i want our party to be the home of the african-american voter once again. i want a totally inclusive country, and i want an inclusive party. we reject the bigotry of hillary
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clinton who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future. we've seen what the democratic policies have done in cities like detroit, baltimore, chicago, and many, many more. virtually all of your inner cities are totally controlled by democrats and they have been for many, many years. now hillary clinton wants to make things worse by raising taxes on 2.6 million african-american owned businesses in this country. my goal is to provide every african-american child in our country with access to the
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latter of american success. that means good education and a great paying job. it includes also -- [ crowd chanting "usa" ] thank you. education. and jobs. it includes also school choice competitions. school choice. it means reforming regulations so young americans can get the credit they need to start a small business and that includes african-americans, hispanics, and everybody else in our country. that's what we need. it means trade and immigration
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policies that put american workers at the front of the line. way ahead of the workers of other countries who are beating us so badly. they're beating us so badly. hillary clinton's amnesty plan will give jobs, benefits, and social security to millions of people here illegally at taxpayer expense and many of these people are treated better than our vets are treated. that is not going to happen. on top of that, according to the u.s. senate immigration sub committee, her plan would bring 620,000 refugees in her first
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term alone. from syria, not going to know who they are and where they came from. could be the great trojan horse of all time. get ready. get ready. she would rather provide a job to a refugee living overseas than a young unemployed african-american youth in virginia. a trump administration will put american workers first. americanism, not globalism, will be our credo. we will bring america together as one country again. united as americans in common
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purpose and common dreams. we will have a thriving economy, a strong border, a powerful military, a peaceful nation, a rising standard of living. this is what i promise you. let's get out there and win on november 8th. [ cheers ] we are going to win in the state of virginia. if we win in the state of virginia, we are going to the white house, and we are going to take care of our people. we are going for victory. we must win on november 8th. together, we will make america wealthy again. we will make america proud
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again. we will make america safe again. and we will make america great again for each and every american. thank you and god bless you. thank you. thank you. [ applause ] >> all right. the republican nominee, donald trump, just finishing there a rally in fredericksburg, virginia, speaking for about 40 minutes, hitting on many of the points that you've heard throughout the primary season and now as he's looking towards november, hitting the points as he has in the past against the democratic nominee, hillary clinton. he started the speech talking about trust, talking about temperament as he has, sort of flipping the play book that secretary clinton has used against donald trump. he also then moved on to talking
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about vets, moving on throughout here at the expo center in fredericksburg, virginia. this about an hour south of washington, dc, about an hour north of richmond, virginia. all of this in an area of virginia that has somewhere around 25 or 27 military bases, military installations in a state where he was also mentioning the key points of veterans and health care. and he was hitting on one of the 10 points of his plan here, his policy plan. that will affect veterans and that's that they can choose between private and public health care options along the way. and he was saying he received no donations. yet he has received some $80 million as we're reporting in the last quarter. starting out by saying that and moving about 30 minutes into his rally to discuss the african-american vote. that is a new beat, certainly, that we've heard within the last 24 to 48 hours.
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the state of virginia, 20% of that population are african-american. he said he needs to win the state. he does. the issue here though at hand is that the swing state that's been often term in previous cycles does not look like that right now. in fact, the gap for trump at this moment is some 9 to 12 percentage points with the democratic nominee in the state of virginia. traditionally a swing state in this northern part of the state, a key liberal if you will, but again, not looking good in terms of this point in the polling that we have seen taking the average. politics at 11 poirgeercentage s he's got to make up there. but early as we go towards labor day and when do the polls start to settle?
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in fredericksburg, virginia. secretary clinton is kicking off her ten-state fund raising trip all across the country. both of them working hard as we move again closer to labor day. of course, we'll continue to watch the presidential campaign. the campaign trail as secretary clinton moves west and as we watch donald trump as he continues to work on this saturday afternoon as well. we'll now rejoin regular programming here on msnbc after a quick break. thanks for staying with us on this saturday on "msnbc live." i'm richard lui. have a very good afternoon. you're choosing more complete allergy relief and all the enjoyment that comes along with it. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances. most allergy pills only control 1. flonase controls 6. and six is greater than one. with flonase, more complete relief means enjoyment
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piece by piece, evidence mounted that robert davis may in fact be innocent. that confession, experts insisted, was coerced. even the admitted killer said he had nothing to do with the murders, and still, he sat in prison. his petition for clemency denied and then support from an unlikely source and a second chance for freedom. back with more of the interrogation. here's keith morrison. >> this is the coffeewood prison in mitchellsville, virginia. robert's home for 40% of his life. every moment of those years, dictated by one long night with officer randy snead of the miserable exhausted end of which roberts said the words he cannot take back. >> you stabbed that woman. >> i stabbed her. >> you stabbed her, didn't you? >> yes, one or two times. >> most people say i would never ever in a million years confess. >> or how could you be so stupid and not know, you know? and i was young. i didn't know. i was naive.
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you know? i was scared. >> robert is not alone, of course. there are people like him in situations in jails and prisons all around the country who confessed as teenagers to crimes they maybe didn't commit. in fact, to prevent that very thing, police departments and many other countries banned or dispensed years ago was interrogation techniques still used in america. had the murder happened elsewhere, here in the united kingdom, it's probable robert would be for questioning and named as a suspect where it's not the case but the chances he would have been charged or even interviewed for very long. close to zero. >> the interview as it is on the recording would not be legal in the uk and that evidence would not have been admitted into trial. >> this is andy griffiths. a detective in the sussex police department for interview techniques.
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when a rookie, british rules were much like they are in the u.s. but they are not anymore. what happened to precipitate these changes in the united kingdom? >> they came about through problems. >> like a national scandal after a series of high profile false confessions including an arson murder case eerily similar to robert davis'. >> instigated of the way prisoners were dealt with in custody. >> the result? a complete overhaul of the system. every officer in the uk retrained to rigorous standards that apply in every region of the country. strict rules were put in place for suspect interviews. all interviews in serious cases. video recorded. >> there were two cameras up there. one gives a head and shoulders shot of the interviewee and a clear picture of you.
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the other is a global view of the room. everyone who's in the room is shown in the picture. that's about showing exactly what happened. >> and this was key. no more lying. in america, it's legal for cops to lie to suspects. not here. >> could you, for example, go into this interview and say, i have a certain specific piece of evidence that tells me you're guilty if you don't have that evidence? >> absolutely not. >> can you talk to a suspect as long as you want to? >> two hours at a time and you should take recognized breaks and meal times, prayer times, and nighttime. >> someone challenged like robert? >> they're entitled under the law to what's called appropriate and that might be a parent, might be a social worker but they're entitled to that as well as their legal representative.
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>> but when the interrogation rules were changed, the internet officers were not happy. trevor remembers it well. >> senior people thought it was a draconian piece of legislation. >> they never thought they would tie hands behind the back and work with it. they were wrong. >> very wrong. not only did false confessions all but stop, crime solving got better. >> detection rates in respect of homicide in the uk are very high. they're up in the 90% mark. >> and along the way, said griffiths, confessions of hall mark case solving in the u.s. became much less important here in britain. >> we would not prosecute
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somebody under confession. if someone did make a confession, we would try and corroborate what they said so you'd have the supporting evidence as well. >> isn't a confession the strongest evidence you could get? not always. >> what's wrong? >> they shape this confirmation bias. people look for supporting evidence just to support what's being said because the confession exists. >> to watch this, robert davis' interrogation. and -- >> what this guy's problem was is he was arrested last and they said, we gospel believe the people arrested first so you need to confirm what we know. that's not a good approach for an investigator. >> the time of day of the interview. the length of the interview. the use of leg iron through the interview. the clear requests for medication and sleep at various points were all red flags. >> when you looked as you did and thought about it afterwards -- >> the life blood of any account is reliability. and the way this is done is you
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can't vouch for the reliability. >> we'd asked his opinion and he gave it to us. robert's confession wasn't believable and what we didn't expect is what happened months later when he spoke to steve rosenfield and offered to write virginia's governor adding his support to the clemency petition. a petition now waiting on the desk of a new governor. coming up -- >> i believe that the confession is an unreliable confession. >> strong words from the chief of police. and from the governor's office. the wait begins when "dateline extra" continues. ♪ ♪ isaac hou has mastered gravity defying moves to amaze his audience. great show. here you go. now he's added a new routine.
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day after day. then newfound hope. a new governor was taking office. would he consider the case or was the young man somebody believed innocent destined to spend another decade in jail? here's keith morrison with the conclusion of the interrogation. >> i've never been emotional in a presentation as i feel in this case because i've grown very close with robert. >> for years, steve rosenfield made his case for legal conferences to anybody who would listen and robert remained right where he was in prison. during those same years, we tried repeatedly to contact and interview randy snead, the officer who took robert's confession but close we got was the current chief of police, colonel steve sellers. he wasn't in office when steve was a detective. >> you've talked to him.
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what's your sense of how he feels? >> i think he acted in the best interest. i think there wasn't a bit of malice in his actions. i think he had a very strong relationship with robert davis. >> but this was interesting. chief sellers did not support snead's interrogation. not at all. >> i will say this. i believe the confession is an unreliable confession. >> what's more -- the chief updated police methods when he took over to help prevent the kind of interrogation that ended up in robert's confession. >> i keep telling your mom i'm going to save you from the ultimate. >> what are things to not be done? >> using terms like the ultimate punishment. length of the interview. those kinds of things would be clearly not done today. >> cold comfort for robert davis who by 2014 had been in prison going on 11 years. a decade plus ago, unless -- there was a new governor. terry mcauliffe in office now so rosenfield renewed his appeal for clemency but well aware a tiny percentage of such petitions are ever granted and
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as month after month went by, it wasn't clear what if anything was happening. >> what's disturbing about the clemency process is it's secretive. >> what rosenfield didn't know is this time, it was different. the governor ordered a new investigation. >> law offices. >> just before christmas 2015, we were there when the call came from the governor's office. >> hey, carlos. it's steve. >> there it was. finally. the words he'd been hoping to hear year after year after year. robert davis was about to be set free. >> i'm elated. just in time for the holidays. today is robert's mother's birthday. come on, sandy, pick up. it's steve.
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set another plate for tonight's dinner. going up to pick robert up. >> oh my god! >> this is the last time i'd ever seen this prison. i told myself, the worst part about dying is being afraid of dying. if i'm not afraid, it won't be so bad. i just couldn't believe this was the way it was going to happen. >> she was a college student found on a lonely road in texas. >> we figured she had been sexually assaulted and dumped here. >> tough questions for her boyfriend. >> where was i the night before? what had i been doing? when had i last seen her? >> i really thought he could be her killer.
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>> he was together with his mother, brother, and freedom. he's home. >> how's it feel? >> great. >> a few weeks later, we came to see robert here in his new apartment in charlottesville, virginia. his very own apartment. in which he tells us there is no room for bitterness. there's too much to do. >> so here we are. >> yep, this is my humble home. >> not bad. >> yeah. yeah. >> how's it feel? >> man, it feels great. i haven't stopped smiling since i come home. >> i can tell.
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what are you planning to do with your life now? >> get a job and thrive. i've got this opportunity and i don't want to squander it. you know? >> that's a nice looking club. >> he's got a job. working in a neighborhood deli and lives under the protective eye of the man who never stopped trying to prove his innocence and hasn't stopped yet. robert's pardon was conditional meaning he has a parole officer and ankle bracelet and still a record. >> well, i don't think the final chapter has been written on robert davis' story. this governor expressed to me that the door was open for a reconsideration toward an absolute pardon which would erase or expunge his condition. >> it's like he never had been arrested at all. >> and that's a possibility down the road. >> which, he said, the least he
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deserves. untold others now languishing in american prisons who confess under duress to something they didn't do. >> slowly, these stories are beginning to make headlines so now we see, eyes are beginning to open. questions are beginning to be asked around the country. and that is what happened in robert davis' case. >> one night of your life made a hell of a difference, didn't it? >> yeah, yeah. >> it's a small town. you ever run into randy snead? >> i haven't run into him. i'd probably keep walking because i don't have nothing to say except for, i told you so. i told you that i was innocent. >> though he was, so he is.
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>> that's all for this edition of "dateline extra." thank you for watching. i told myself, the worst part about dying is being afraid of dying. if i'm not afraid, it won't be so bad. i just couldn't believe this was the way it was going to happen. >> she was a college student found on a lonely road in texas. >> we figured she had been sexually assaulted and dumped here. >> tough questions for her boyfriend. >> where was i the night before? what had i been doing? when had i last seen her? >> i really thought he could be her killer. >> but while police try to prove it, another attack.
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