picking up our coverage right now. >> jacob, i've never met -- okay. let's get to serious business right now at nbc. donald trump's campaign suggests a possible retreat on one of his most controversial proposes, deporting nearly 11 million undocumented immigrants. well now this morning, what donald trump just said when he was asked if he is flip-flopping. plus, former secretary of state, colin powell says hillary clinton's people have been, quote, trying to pin it on me after clinton says powell advised her to use private e-mail while at the state department. and president obama returns to washington, d.c., and he plans to visit the people in louisiana after historic flooding there. republicans criticizing the president for not ending his vacation. what will they say now that he plans to visit the state. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall coming to you live from msnbc headquarters in new york. we begin with donald trump's answer this morning to whether

he's now flip-flopping on his vow to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. on fox news, donald trump addressed his new campaign manager's suggestion that he might soften his plan. >> we have to be very, very strong when people come in illegally. we have a lot of people that want to come in through the legal process. it's not fair for them. and we're working with a lot of people in the hispanic community to try and come up with an answer. >> so you're not flip-flopping. >> no, i'm not flip-flopping. we want to come up with a really fair but firm answer. >> a fair but firm answer. again, these questions arose after donald trump's new campaign manager, kellyanne conway, suggested yesterday that trump could walk back his plan to create what he called a deportation force. those people would round up and deport the folks in this country illegally. >> as the weeks unfold, he will lay out the specifics of that plan that he would implement as president of the united states. >> will that plan include a

deportation force, the kind that he just -- you just heard in that sound bite and he talked about during the republican primaries? >> to be determined. >> now donald trump first talked about deportation or deportation force back in november during an appearance on "morning joe." >> you're going to have a deportation force, and you're going to do it humanely. >> are they going to be taken out of their homes? how. >> they're going back where they came. if they came from a certain country, they're going to be brought back to that country. that's the way it's supposed to be. >> nbc's hallie jackson covering the trump campaign for us and joins us live from trump tower here in new york. we know donald trump plans a big speech on immigration. where do things stand now? it sounds as if he is ready ready to in his words prepare something that he would see as fair. >> reporter: but the question is, tamron, what does that mean, and when will we hear it from donald trump himself. just given that trump's

immigration policy, at least as put forward in black and white on his website, has not changed. donald trump himself insists he is not changing where he stands an this so-called deportation force. the biggest hint is coming from indication from his advisers, like that kellyanne conway sound bite you played, it's to be determined. we have tried to get some clarity from the trump campaign on that this morning and are still waiting to hear more about what this means. a lot of it is reminiscent from another major policy topic that donald trump proposed, and that is the temporary proposed muslim ban. saw his advisers try to walk that back before the candidate himself did. all of this is to say, if donald trump comes out on thursday or later in the week and talks about his immigration proposals and begins to open the door to some changes to where he's been on the deportation of the estimated 11 million immigrants living here illegally, then that's a different story. but it is a fine line he has to walk. because remember, a lot of

his -- this is what he built his campaign on, in large part from the very beginning. since last summer. how does he begin to walk it back, is the question for trump, while still maintaining that he is a candidate who has not changed or is not flip-flopped in his positions. that's the question to watch for. >> we're also watching what is old is new again, in that as you pointed out, when it came to the ban on muslims, donald trump's campaign said something and then he followed. here you have his new team in place on the sunday morning show, saying something that the candidate has not yet said. it is interesting to see again the same kind of behavior, or the same pattern here. >> reporter: it's laying the ground work, right? it's putting out some of these sort of positions and floating this out there to get the conversation started so that donald trump can follow up later in the week. i would also -- listen, let's note. eric trump, donald trump's son, one of his surrogates out this morning, sort of pushing back on the idea his dad was changing. here's the thing, though.

through this entire campaign, privately campaign advisers would say we're not calling it flip flops, not reversals. they don't see it that way. the issue is, when you modify a position, that's change in position. >> i don't think any politician has referred to as a flip-flop. we all have good common sense, and if something does change, it is, in fact, a flip-flop, whether they choose to refer to it as that or not. we'll see what happens there. thank you, hallie. let me bring in frank sherry, progress immigration report, america's voice. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> let's talk about what you heard from donald trump this morning. a lot of words, but i can't say any of it really made sense, meaning we don't know what he plans to do or say in this immigration speech. >> we don't either. but i can tell you this right now. it won't matter. he has defined himself with latino voters, and their allies for the past year and three months. he has defined himself lz as a

racist. someone who says that a latino judge can't judge him, because he's latino. he called immigrants from mexico rapists and murderers and drug dealers. he threw very -- a very prominent latino journal medalist out of a press conference after he sneered, go back to univision. that's why he is polling in the teens with latinos, when most experts think at a minimum you have to win a republican nominee in the mid 40s to be competitive in a national race. >> it's interesting. if all of this talk about building a wall and having this deportation force was to appeal to the base, you certainly recall senator ted cruz during their most heated back and forth said that there was an off the record conversation donald trump had with the "new york times," in which he indicated his plan was always to pivot, if you will, in the general election. this had been out there, but i

think his campaign would say, unfortunately, they had a million other problems to worry about, and he was not able to make this transition. ted cruz said he was always planning. >> yeah. i think pivot is going to become the word of this election. it's becoming the biggest joke. look, what i think trump is probably going to do is try to soften his rhetoric, not change his policy. in an attempt, much like he's doing with in a very handled-fisted way with african-americans, to try to say look, i'm not the racist you think i am, so republican voters who are having trouble with me, you suburban voters come home and vote for me. it is not about latino outreach. it is not about a shift in policy. it is about trying to soften some of his very rough and racist edges to try to pick up some more republican votes. it's not going to work. look, we all know what he's for. he's for rounding up andty porting 11 million people. and even if he backs off that a little bit rhetorically, the cake is baked. he's defined. we know him.

>> and -- >> and the public knows him. >> you make the point, frank. i'll show the audience more of what it says. but this retreat on immigration, if that is the case, some of this outreach as it's been called to the african-american community. it has nothing to do with hispanics, it doesn't have anything to do with black or brown voters. this has to do with some of the suburban white women who are uncomfortable with him, his rhetoric, and he is trying to show them that he is not this character that some at this point believe he is. or this racist that some believe he is at this point. >> look, i mean, as hallie jackson was just pointing out, it trump actually shifted his position on immigration, the houls from his white nationaliest base would be overwhelmi overwhelming. look, his base is who he is tied to. they love the fact that he has said things that are from the fever swamps of the far right fringe in america as policy. mass deportation is something

that is rejected by the overwhelming number of americans. it was just a gallup poll that said by a rate of 84-16, the american people want to give undocumented immigrants a chance to get on a path to citizenship. so he's talking about a very unpopular position. i think he's trying to shed the label but not change the policy. >> frank, you made a proper and great transition to my next guest when you made the reference of trump's base and some of those people who have been described as national medalists or even racial medalists who want to hear his rhetoric about deportation. joining us now -- thank you very much, frank -- is david weigel who wrote in his last weekend's column racial medalists cheering on trump's latest strategy. thank you so much for joining me again. >> thank you. >> you were referring to or at least the article makes reference to this first general election ad that trump put up, started airing on friday. touting his immigration stance, his safer america, some of those things you described appealing

to racial. but now what will their reaction be if donald trump softens on immigration and he continues, whether the audience is all white or not, to talk about african-americans? >> i haven't seen much reaction today, a negative reaction. one thing i found in talking a lot of people profiled in the article, a lot of white national groups, whatever euphemism you want, they think trump is able to get over with a broader audience, and is going to be trustworthy on the policies they actually want enacted. so there is a lot of leeway they give him. when it comes to appeals to black voters, hispanics, part of that they see is an attempt to inform the white voter who worries he's going to be called racist, to tell the voter you're okay, you can vote for him, be proud of it, you can expand this base by saying nice things about black and hispanic voters. >> so some of those you spoke with see it essentially as some of the democrats have described it as just not about black and brown vote, it is about an

appearance of being open, whether he is or isn't. >> that's completely it. there is a real acute sense of strategy with these people. first of all, a lot of the adoration they have for trump, what he is forced into the conversation, which is not changed by the way he softens it now. that ad, if mitt romney had run it, would have been a gigantic controversy, showing immigrants from somewhere streaming over the border, citations that are really backed up, people clamoring on trains, this distoppian vision of america. and trump has always said, i'm going kick out the bad ones and a couple good ones can stay. that's fine, you can phrase it that way as long as you elevate the issue the way we want it. >> if kellyanne conway is right, and i feel we're trying to read through what he said this morning, what she said, and perhaps that's why there's not been a great reaction even on social media, because we are all unclear on what's coming out of this campaign. but let's just say he is quote

unquote softening. that he will back away from the language of a deportation task force. that, you know, this notion of, you know, running out 11 million people and some of the strongest language he's used disappears. what will these people, and, be again, i don't know what to call them, nationalists, racialists or whatever, the description they place on themselves, what will their reaction be? >> they're actually more frustrated by how trump is not turning hillary's immigration position back on her. they believe that in order to win the primary, in order to get right with the current democratic party, hillary clinton has come out for a very expansive view of immigration reform, more than the senate would have passed in 2013 and they think that is less popular than they think it is. the ones we're used to talk about, whether there is still a very large white electorate, where they think you can turn people into trump voters, based on that message, where they saw it happen, the primary. and they're confused why that's not happening.

they think he's stronger when attacking immigration reformers than he is explaining his own position. >> but it sounds like they want to have it both ways. of he's strong when attacking and using this language that then is a turnoff to some of those white, moderate supporters. they know he needs. so you can't have it both ways. you can't have him come out on stage and refer to people as rapists and all kinds of incendiary comments about people who are in this country illegally and then want him to somehow court the people who are turned off by that language. they want it both ways. or they want him to be a phony. >> that's right. they're going to try and hope he gets away with it. >> david, thank you so much. what an interesting article you had this weekend. thank you so much. >> thank you. donald trump will campaign later today in what is a must-win state. ohio. a state that president obama won in 2012. hillary clinton has extended her lead in ohio, the latest poll shows her ahead of donald trump by six points, averaging. and other recent polls shows a

general election lead of five points in ohio. i'm joined by the chairman of the ohio republican party. matt, good to see you again. thanks for joining us. >> hi, tamron. >> so governor kasich told lester holland during the republican national convention it would be tough for donald trump to win ohio. right now we're showing hillary clinton ahead in the polls. at this rate, will governor kasich be right in the outcome of ohio? >> well, a long way to go. and there has been new allegations just today about the clinton foundation and more to come, i'm sure. and republicans are doing well in ohio. we've got 1 million new republican voters here in this state. our senator, rob portman, continues to hold a substantial lead in his race for the united states senate. and so we have got work to do if we're going to carry ohio. one thing we know is that no republican has ever gotten to the white house without carrying ohio. so you said it best when you said must-win. ohio is a must-win state this year. >> you mentioned there is a lot of time to go and i guess the

calendar can be deceptive. in reality, early voting starts in six weeks there. >> right. that's right. we have 35 days of early voting, thanks to republican leadership here. every single democrat in the legislature voted against the creation of early voting here. but we do have that. and so it starts soon. you're right. this election will be on us very soon, and there is not a lot of time left to continue to shape your message. but this is something that's going to be very important to come into relief over the next month, month and a half. i think after labor day traditionally, voters really start to pay more attention. and that's when we're going to have to really work on turning republicans out. and making sure they understand what's at stake in this election. >> and i understand that anecdotally, we always in the past would say voters start to pay attention after labor day. but this has been unprecedent the by all all means, and we may to throw out some of the cliches when you look at just if, for example, the unconventional ground game there. donald trump's campaign website

says they have only seven offices in ohio. so if he is going to wait until after labor day to intensify the ground game early voting starts in six weeks, we will wake up and it will be election day in america. >> so we actually have many more offices than that here in ohio. and we just had a great day of action on saturday -- >> why does the campaign website say it has seven offices? the official website says it has serve offices in ohio. >> yeah, i haven't looked at the website. obviously, it needs to be updated because we have dozens of offices in ohio now. and we had folks out at every one of them. working this weekend to contact voters and so there's a very loyal group of volunteers that have been helping. he's got an excellent stab here in ohio. and so we're excited about the prospects moving forward. we have just got to do our work to make sure, again, republicans understand what is at stake in election and we get them out to vote. >> going back to your assertion

there is an excellent ground game, for lack of a better description in place, as i pointed out, the website says seven offices open in ohio. the plan is to open 25 offices in this state. that's according to the cincinnati inquirer. 78 days to go. explain to me or justify to me your claim that things are looking better than what i'm reading from his own campaign website. >> yeah. again, i just think the campaign website, which i have not seen that particular language, it needs to be updated because there are many more offices open. we have a hand in hand relationship with the republican national committee who has had staff in ohio, 50 staffers on the ground here for over a year. and so we have been working in close coordination with senator portman's campaign. i believe he's running the best campaign in america. and so it took us a little longer to figure out who our nominee was, but once we did, we began putting that together, hired a great staff here. and have those offices open, and volunteers out working, and so i hope the democrats continue to believe that there is not enough happening in ohio, so that they

take their foot off the gas a little bit, because ohio republicans are out there working hard to make sure people understand what's at stake in this election. >> you have mentioned senator portman, of course, fighting for re-election. he is no fan of donald trump, as is the case, again, the governor of the state who did not show up at the convention. when you look at resources and what the republicans are allocating to governor -- senator portman or to the trump campaign in winning the state, what is the breakdown of the money? is the money going with portman or will the money follow donald trump? >> no, i think that senator portman, like i said, is running the best campaign in the country that i can tell. and they have got 500 college interns out doing the recruiting work and doing the voter contact work, and i just was with senator portman and governor kasich together as part of a two-week-long barn storming bus tour of ohio. and so he's working really hard and all republicans are working hard to make sure we take nothing for granted this year, get our voters turn outside. and make sure they understand what is at stake in this

election with the appointments to the supreme court and so many other issues that are going to be -- >> are you worried that donald trump will hurt senator portman's re-election bid? how concerned are you? >> well, i'm not concerned about that. again, as you saw the polling this weekend, even in an environment where hillary clinton is ahead in the most recent polls you cited, senator portman has a seven-point lead. of we saw polling with even larger leads than that. he's running a great campaign. the former governor, ted strickland, was the worst governor in history. lost 400,000 jobs. so rob portman is running strong and i think he's running a great campaign. we never take anything for granted. so we will continue to work hard through the finish line to make sure senator portman gets elected. and like i said, no republican has ever gone to the white house without carrying ohio. that's going to be critical. >> just quickly on the things that have never happened, a governor of ohio, not attending the convention, do you believe

that john kasich will ever come around before the general election to support the party's nominee? >> i'm going to let you ask governor kasich that question. and we're just continuing to work hard to make sure we get republicans out to vote this year. >> thank you for your time. we greatly appreciate it. former secretary of state, colin powell, is pushing back against what hillary clinton told the fbi in july, mainly that it was powell who advised her to use a private e-mail account. powell told "people" magazine saturday night her people have been trying to pin it on me. the truth is, she was using the private e-mail server for i year before i sent her a memo telling her what i did msnbc is following the reaction out of our washington bureau. so what is the campaign saying about this? >> well, tamron, they are sticking with the story, saying that clinton basically did what other secretary of states have done in using a private e-mail account. some differences there, though, between what cole powell did and

what she did. powell's staff used an aol account, not a private server, and they also note that the regulations around private e-mail use were turned after colin powell left and hillary clinton came in. and politifact did take a look at the claim from the plant campaign, gave it a mostly false. a new story out this morning that there are 15,000 new unreleased e-mails that could come out as recently -- as soon as october. that's via a lawsuit from the conservative group judicial watch. so this story is not going anywhere for hillary clinton. >> all right, alex. thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. we'll see what the campaign says later today. thank you. coming up, could trump's assertion that the election would be rigged if he loses be another comment that could backfire on the republican party? up next, i'll talk to a gop election lawyer who greatly disagrees with donald trump. plus, the battle of visiting americans amid devastation.

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go down to certain areas and watch and study and make sure other people don't come in and vote five times. the only way we can lose, in my opinion, i really mean this, pennsylvania, is if cheating goes on. i really believe it. >> and that was donald trump campaigning in pennsylvania last week. ranting about a rigged election in november. on his website, trump is calling for supporters to volunteer as election observers to, quote, stop crooked hillary from rigging this election. trump has also voiced strong

support for north carolina's voter i.d. law, which is currently under appeal after a federal court found it discriminatory. the voter i.d. law is considered one of the toughest in the nation. joining me now, mark braden for the republican national committee. thank you for your time. i greatly appreciate it. >> good morning. >> we have cited this before, but i'll remind people. according to a study by the nonpartisan brennan center in 2007, how extraordinarily rare voter fraud would be in looking at numbers from different organizations, as well. arizona state, for example, they found in 2012, just 2,000 cases of election fraud nationwide in the year 2000. so the numbers are minuscule. what is your take, though, on donald trump setting the stage for a rigged election? >> well our election system actually goes quite well. i wouldn't call brennan center nonpartisan.

the notion that vote fraud doesn't exist, is, of course, lunacy. why then would think you wouldn't steal votes is a mystery to me. vote fraud is rare but actually occurs and sometimes occurs on a massive basis. i did a recount in illinois of the governor's race. i went to the chicago board of elections, where they explained to me that vote fraud was a republican illusion. and chicago times reporter explained the same thing to me. when we got down with the recount, the grand jury report showed that 10% of the chicago vote was made up on election night. that's 110,000 votes. so the notion that vote fraud doesn't happen is a joke. it does happen. that said, the system generally works well. and the problems generally arise in the context of absentee voting or collusion of poll workers. >> i think we all agree pretty much anything you can think of outside of a unicorn walking in the studio does happen.

but does it have a significant impact that should taint how we see our process? i lived in illinois, very familiar with what you were discussing just now with some of the voter issues there. however, you said in this article, the election system, as you just pointed out, the united states generally works extremely, were your words, and fraud, although real, is modest. that's not the picture that's coming from your party's nominee. with that said, you were quoted as saying you're worried this could backfire, potentially in some tight senate races. why do you believe that? >> well, i've seen people make unfounded accusations of fraud. and the kerry race versus bush in ohio, there was a long article, front page article, on the "rolling stone" where kenty wrote a piece saying that, in fact, john kerry won ohio because the republican parties had much rigged the voting machines in ohio. of course, that was utter nonsense. so people make wild accusations.

one shouldn't let the nonsense of wild accusations wild to indiscretion. most elections work extremely well. there are places where they don't. and in those places, we need to be concerned. asking people to be poll workers and working in our polling places are, in fact -- that's the best guarantee for a good system, a good system has people working for both parties in polling places around the country as poll workers watching the process. >> and campaigns often do expect that kind of -- and ask for that kind of monitoring, not just the republicans on both sides. there is always a concern. thank you so much, mark, for your time. breaking news to report, the latest on the investigation into the shooting death of an african-american man in milwaukee that sparked two days of violent protests. what the police now say has been provided to that man's family,

but why has the video of the shooting still not been released? and president obama returns from vacation to push for finding to fight the zika outbreak. this as the nation's top disease experts warn the virus could spread now to gulf states. we'll be right back. soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. get back to great.

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but despite calls for the videos to be released, investigators won't make them public, because he says it would compromise the investigation. he appeared to confirm milwaukee mayor tom barrett's earlier statement that the body cam footage shows smith turning forward the officer with a gun in hand. >> oftentimes, what triggers unrest after an officer-involved use of force is information that the subject was or was not armed. in this situation, the mayor was able to provide the information. that limited statement, i don't think, harms our investigation. >> nbc's blake mccoy was at the news conference. he joins us now. blake, part of the reason have pushed to have body cameras, it would allow for transparency of these investigations. what more are authorities saying regarding the decision not to release this body cam video? >> reporter: tamron, the attorney general says he has to

balance the short term benefits with releasing the video to the long-term benefit of the investigation. one of the things he's concerned about, since they're still interviewing witnesses, if the tape gets out there, it could taint their account of what happened. so he says he will not be releasing that video until the investigation is complete. he also said that they have been in contact with sylville smith's family. take a listen. >> the family has been cooperative. we have no difficulties with them, except that they don't want to be in this situation. they're not hindering us in any way. they're just very unhappy with the circumstances they face. >> reporter: an important note here. the officer involved in this shooting is also black, and there have been reports that the two knew each other. that's coming from one of smith's family members, who says they know each other from school and from the neighborhood. the attorney general says they're looking into all of that. as far as when we're going to

see this body cam video, the attorney general says they will wait until the district attorney has made a decision on whether or not to charge this officer. tamron, i'm told they are expediting the investigation but not rushing it. >> have you very much, blake. we'll see -- wait to hear more from the investigators involved. coming up, president obama travels to louisiana tomorrow, and will be greeted by staggering numbers, including 40,000 homes that were damaged from the deadly flooding. we'll get the latest on the recovery from the parish president of one of the hardest-hit communities ahead of the president's visit. every day starts better with a healthy smile. start yours with philips sonicare, the no.1 choice of dentists. compared to oral-b 7000, philips sonicare flexcare platinum removes significantly more plaque. this is the sound of sonic technology cleaning deep between teeth. hear the difference? get healthier gums in just 2 weeks vs a manual toothbrush and experience an amazing feel of clean.

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effect of the floodwaters. republicans, as you well know, have criticized the president for not cutting his summer vacation short and visiting the area, pointing to donald trump's trip there on friday. louisiana governor, john bel edwards, has defended the response, saying an earlier trip by the president would have drained resources needed for the recovery. nbc's tammy leitner is live in baton rouge with the latest on the recovery efforts and the president's upcoming visit. so tammy, thousands of people still -- i saw this morning, close to 4,000 in shelters today in the area. >> reporter: that's right, tamron. and this homeowner nice enough to allow his their home. the water came up about 2 feet high in this house, but they had to take out the sheetrock. the homeowner, deborah, still has a lot of her possessions in here. she was telling me, she hopes she can salvage them. the one thing you can't seep right now is the smell of mildew. it is so overpowering in here. deborah has lived in this house

for about 15 years. you can see she still has a lot of her belongings here. she does not have flood insurance as most of the people in this neighborhood don't. this is not considered a flood zone, so they're not required to have flood insurance. for her and for most of the people in this neighborhood, they will essentially be starting over. she has applied for assistance. so many people have with fema. the maximum any household is getting is about $33,000 and she tells me that is not nearly enough to cover her starting over. tamron? >> and to the reaction of the president visiting there, have you had a chance, tammy, to get some thoughts from folks there about his visit? >> absolutely. you know, residents are angry he has not come out here yet. but i've asked them, is it too little, too late? and they said no, they really want people to know what's going on here and they want some help. these people want to start over. they want to remanufacture, and a lot of them started doing

that. i think people are happy he's coming out tomorrow. >> reporter: the fema reaction. we can focus on the president but a lot of people on the ground are fema, state workers. what's been the reaction to how fema has set up shop in helping? >> reporter: you know, as far as assistance they're getting right now, food, water, blankets, shelter, that type of thing, people are very happy. but it's the financial end of it. the rebuilding. that's where a lot of people are going to be coming up short. tamron? >> thank you very much, tammy. joining me by phone, president of the ascension parish in southern louisiana, one of the areas hardest hit by the flooding. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> kenny, if you can, give me a description of the situation, at least, right now, in your area. >> well, currently on the east end of the parish, floodwaters have reduced. but we are moving into recovery

right now. along by manshack on the northern end of the parish, we are experiencing high water and flooding. you know, at this point, we are continuing sandbagging operations, and hope the water is reduced, you know, for sure. >> looking at some of the response over the past few days, particularly federal response, we know the road ahead will be difficult in getting the proper funds. how do you rate at least the ground reaction from the state, the government, fema, as well? >> well, you know, fema currently has 78 members in our parish team. and, you know, we are -- we have been told that the -- will be dedicated to ascension parish, this team. which is great. we never had that before.

governor edwards has visited us twice. we appreciate the state resources he has brought us. and most importantly, we have a great relationship with the governor's office, homeland security, and two members have been with us at homeland security and in our office throughout the event. >> i know that when donald trump visited, you were able to -- you met with him while he was there on the ground. the president is there tomorrow in the area, baton rouge. what's your reaction to the political back and forth? we have seen this before, not just with katrina, but the flint water crisis, presidential candidates there. also after tragedies of gun violence. whether or not presidents should go, and we know what happened with george bush and new orleans. what do you make of this, being a politician yourself, this back and forth over who should come and when? >> i was very happy that donald trump came to ascension parish, and we briefed him on the

situation. including a briefing where myself, the sheriff, volunteers, firemen, first responders and homeland security staff. i think he brought some needed attention to the national media, which we have gotten for this disaster event. as i understand it, the president will be visiting our neighborhoods in baton rouge tomorrow, and i think it's a good thing for our elected officials to see first hand the damages. senator bill cafferty and congressman graves have both been here. i think it's good for the president to come and understand our flood impact. >> thank you so much. and as you know, our thoughts are with you, and the entire community, as well as those hit all over the state in these last few days. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you all for getting the word out. we appreciate it. for how bad we are hurting over here. we just thank you for getting the word out. >> absolutely. coming up, hillary clinton facing new questions about why

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we think this is where he's going to talk about immigration, although that hasn't been confirmed. and earlier this morning, he ended up saying he's not flip-flopping, but he wants to do flip-flopping, but he wants to do something to make sure that it's tough, but also fair. and this all has to go with how he would end up getting rid of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country. previously he said he'd have a deportation force. his campaign manager yesterday said that what that might end up being or if it goes even that far is to be determined. so, i still don't think we're going to get more details it and specifics. some people said this might be a pivot, we have to wait and see. >> and looking at these new numbers from the nbc political team on the camp, clinton camp outraising trump in july, not just outraising, but also how this money is being allocated regarding the trump campaign. a lot of focus on digital. >> well, right. and when you go -- when you talk about that, tamron, the digital component is actually the trump

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adds obviously to some of the understandable anxiety there, kerry. >> reporter: well, tamron, of course. i'm inside david' cafe, debbie wasserman schultz held a news conference saying it was unacceptable there was not federal funding to deal with this. it was february when the president asked for #$.9 million, it was july 14th when they had their last chance to vote on a $1.1 billion bill. it died. everybody went on vacation and they're not due back now until after labor day. and so there's a sense of urgency, especially as you know, kids are going back to school inside the zika zone, plus another one six miles from here. more than 7,000 kids going to school today. kids who get up early, stand up on bus stops and wait for the mosquitos to be out. mosquitos of course can bite them and the theory is those kids bring zika into the home and expose the mother, who could be getting pregnant, tamron.

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learn how at onetalk.com. thanks for watching this hour of msnbc live i'm tamron hall. right now "andrea mitchell reports." and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," retreat or reset? is donald trump abandoning his hard line on immigration? this was trump just friday night. >> we're going to build the wall and mexico is going to pay for the wall. believe me. >> but then there's this sunday from trump's new campaign manager. >> will that plan include a deportation force, the kind that he just, you just heard in that sound byte and that he talked about during the republican primaries? >> to be determined. e-mail kickback, trump today jumping all over colon powell's reported comments about hillary clinton's e-mail excuse. >> she's a liar. i mean, she lied. she lied about the e-mail, she

lied about colon powell. he was not happy. and it's -- the whole thing is a scam with them. everything is a scam. and wash with controversy. president obama heading to louisiana tomorrow after facing criticism for not visiting in the wake of the deadly disaster. now the clean-up begins. >> everything in here was gone. everything. and good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. donald trump 3.0 ending at a softening of his stance on immigration. as his shadow campaign starts relying more and more on the republican national committee infrastructure. today, the candidate zeroing in on the clinton foundation's recent promise to stop taking foreign and corporate contributions. if hillary clinton is elected. >> number one, they should shut is it down, number two they