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foundation that comes as clinton sits on an 8-point lead according to our latest nbc news/survey monkey online tracking poll out today. last night she laughed off attacks about the state of her health. we'll get into that in a bit. we're learning she's set to give a major speech this thursday. let's begin with hallie jackson covering the trump campaign in austin, texas. hallie, a lot of movement when it comes to trump's immigration policy over the last few days or perceived movement. he cancels the speech he was to give in colorado on thursday now more comments from him and his aides. is the policy shifting? >>. >> i got off the phone with one of his top campaign aides within the last hour. this aide telling me nothing has changed with donald trump's policies. we knew this, we can go to donald trump's web site. his immigration position paper is still there, his policies are still outlined even though as you talked about some of his aides and surrogates have come
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out and begun to what may be sort of float these trial balloons that trump could soften his stance on the so-called deportation force. trump not doing much to clarify this muddled message but he went on television overnight and said "hey, what president obama is doing has worked, trump's argument is he would do it better." there's a question of what this force would look like. how he would implement it. we expect to get more clarity from trump on this topic. the question is when. the campaign says he will be unveiling a fuller immigration policy at some point soon. we thought this would be thursday in denver, kate, it wasn't. i'm told by a couple sources with knowledge of the decision-making process that trump after an advisory council round table with hispanic leaders on saturday wanted to fold in messaging and the campaign felt like it was too tight of a timeline to turn that around for thursday. trump, though, keeping a focus on border security in texas. kate, i know you love good texas
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barbecue and know the hot spots in austin. we are 30 minutes outside of austin city limits and it's raising eyebrows that trump is in this reliably red state. i had lunch with a political operative who said listen there are people who think that shouldn't trump get on a plane and turn around and get right to tampa, florida, or get over to columbus, ohio? places where he could be making personal interactions with voters and trying to pick up more votes? from a campaign's perspective they feel like if he's raising more money, throw a rally, get media attention and get trump in front of a crowd whose energy he can feed off of. >> i would highly recommend gueros downtown. not barbecue, but fantastic tex-mex. i want to ask you about one other thing before i let you go. last night trump getting a lot of attention for making this statement. i want to play it, about hillary clinton and the clinton foundation and the e-mail scandal. take a listen.
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>> the amounts involved, the favors done and the significant number of times it was done require and expedited investigation by a special prosecutor immediately, immediately, immediate ly. >> have we heard that from him before? a special prosecutor? or is that new? >> that's new and a message you will hear again tonight in austin, that is the guidance we're getting from our campaign sources. it's a message donald trump -- well, at least his new team wants to be relentlessly focusing on now, seizing on these clinton controversies if you will and frankly it's red meat to his supporters, right? and it's a relief to republicans who have wondered for weeks why donald trump was not attacking hillary clinton harder, why donald trumps own controversies were overshadowing what they believe to be serious vulnerabilities that speak to hick's last of trustworthiness when you look at polling with certain segments of the
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electorate so donald trump getting on message. the question is can he stay on message? it's a question we have asked again and again. he's calling for a special prosecutor. this is -- there's no chance president obama is going to appoint a special prosecutor on this, virtually no chance but it's messaging that will get donald trump focused on what his campaign wants him to be focusing on. so it's a different play book for him. now to wrap up, kate, then i promise i'll stop talking, it's been, like, two days. so let's see how long this lasts. i think there are republicans and people in conservative circles going all right, well, he's had a good week, he needs to put together 77 more good days. >> hallie jackson following it from outside austin, hallie, have some fun there. let's turn the clinton campaign now. nbc's kasie hunt is in our l.a. bureau. cas kasie, let's start with what we were just talking about, the idea of a special prosecutor, the line haley w hallie was tal about. any reaction from the clinton
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team? >> at this point, kate, we have a focus from the clinton campaign on donald trump's finances in return for this attack and this, of course, is the theme we're seeing over and over again when it comes to questions about the clinton foundation's dealing. clinton officials pointing nbc from the statement from hillary for america chair john podesta saying donald trump needs to outline whatever foreign connections his businesses have and trying to tie it back to the kremlin, to russia, all of those things. of course donald trump has not released his tax returns at this point so that's the direction that they point us to but the reality is a special prosecutor would definitely be a reach in this situation. typically they're used when the person in question has direct oversight of the prosecutor or attorneys involved. think about ken starr, of course, during the 1990s and really underpinning all of this
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argument from trump is, of course, the memory that many americans have of the special prosecutor in the 1990s, ken star, going after bill clinton. so putting it in this framework is a way to dredge up memories of that in addition to being focused on the current issues with the clinton foundation. >> we mentioned at the top of the show that on thursday we learned hillary clinton will give a big speech, what's that about? >> she's heading to reno, nevada, as part of this west coast swing. her campaign says they're going to focus on what's become known as the alt right, the alternative right wing, of course, with ties to steve bannon, the new ceo of the trump campaign who runs breitbart news and the alt right has come under much criticism for ties to white supremacists, for example, or anti-semites and this is something the clinton campaign wants to try and highlight, underscore, focus on in that speech in reno on thursday.
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>> all right, kasie hunt following the clinton campaign. for some perspective from a clinton supporter i want to bring in former democratic congressman harold ford, jr., a visiting professor at the university of michigan school of public policy, good to see you as always. >> thank you for having me. >> let's start with the back-and-forth about the clinton foundation and the call for a special prosecutor from donald trump, i want to play you something that republican senator tom cotton told hugh hewitt on his radio show this morning. >> hillary clinton and bill clinton should immediately suspend all donations to the clinton foundation from foreign governments and corporations, they said they will if she wins but that's really just an alarm bell for all those people to send in their money right now if they want to buy access in a future clinton white house. >> so why not immediately suspend all donations from foreign governments and corporations? what's wrong with doing that just to be safe? just to be sure there's no conflict? >> let's take a step back. the clinton foundation has a
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gloobl footprint, the impact it has had on reducing the threat of public health cares that we in america and developed parts of the world take for granted, the impact has been immeasurable. the kind of brokering of agreements that i put together across the world, that's the purpose of the organization. >> i've travelled with them twice to africa, in full disclosure and they do great work. i don't know that anybody is arguing with that. they're arguing about the conflict. >> but what mr. cotton said with all due respect, this is what the organization does so they attract partners from around the globe. i think they're doing the responsible thing, if mrs. clinton wins, which i slope she does, i hope they take a step further and think more broadly about how the foundation will work in light of her being president and the appearance of a conflict. i think a lot of this talk from donald trump, if i were in his campaign i would encourage him to talk about these things because he hasn't released his tax returns. there are a number of concerns the campaign has and kellyanne conway and that team recognize the more they can divert attention away from him and put back on the clinton campaign
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foundation it's helpful but it's nonsense to call for a special prosecutor. i think kasie hunt nailed it. this is all about conjuring up old news, the idea of the prosecutor, the old prosecutor before who just resigned from baylor because of something dealing with a sexual assault there on baylor's campus, all that being said i can understand why the trump people would want to do this but this is nothing but subterfuge and screen work on their part. >> since friday we've been talking about donald trump's new pitch to african-american voters. we've heard him say "what do you have to lose" over and over. last night his former campaign manager corey lewandowski who doesn't work for the campaign anymore was talking about trump visiting black communities and this is what he had to say about a rally back in chicago that was canceled. >> that is a black community. he went to the heart of chicago to go and give a speech to the university of chicago in a campus which is predominantly african-american to make that argument and you know what happened? the campus was overrun and it was not a safe environment. >> so he's saying they tried to
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go to shill, they tried to go to a community that had african-americans in it but it was chaotic. as i said, he's not with the campaign anymore, he's still receiving a severance if the campaign. what does that remark say to you? >> it says a couple things. first donald trump has made comments throughout the campaign, including he was hesitant to distance himself from david duke early on in the campaign because he claimed he was not aware of the organizations. >> he said "i don't know who he is." throughout this campaign he has said things and the on if i cans in -- optics this campaign suggest communities of color should look to a different candidate. i welcome him to talk about these things. i'm for mrs. clinton but it enables the body politic when both candidates talk to the communities about how they will empower him. now i don't think he has to go to black events and hispanic events to talk about how he will empower communities. it would be in his best interest to appear in areas or in programming where you have a predominantly black audience, be it tom joyner's morning show or
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the naacp, urban league annual dinners or even a black journalist or hispanic journalist association. but he has t to talk about in a non-condescending way, which he didn't do a good job of last week, about how his plan will empower all of america and maybe specifically african-americans and hispanic americans. >> let me ask you the health question about hillary clinton because it keeps being raised by republicans including donald trump and rudy giuliani and others. last night she had a little fun with it. i want to play a clip from jimmy kimmel. >> rudy giuliani was on fox news yesterday and today and he's saying you look, you seem to be sick, you look tired, et cetera, et cetera. are you in good health? >> well, this has become one of their themes. you take my pulse while i'm talking to you. [ laughter ] so make sure i'm alive. >> oh, my god, there's nothing there! >> can you open this jar of pickles? this has not been tampered with.
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>> she opened it, by the way. is that the best way for her to deflect this is just joke it off? >> i think you have to. when any politician goes after another politician around health issues, you stay away from that. there's nothing wrong with her and you don't want to wish anything bad on anyone so she handmented it right and this is one of those things that will find themselves being obsolete. >> but it is another one of those things that resonates with voters because health is something we can relate to. it's easy to understand that argume argument. >> so to answer are you sick? of course i'm not sick. they know what they're doing with it. i don't -- i was in politics, i don't travel down the path of faulking about health and families so i hope mr. trump will honor that sometime soon. >> harold ford, jr., thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. after the break we go back to baton rouge, louisiana, where the president is the this hour amid criticism from donald trump
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i just had a chance to see some of the damage from the historic floods here in louisia louisiana. i come here first and foremost to say the prayers are with the entire nation who have lost loved ones. >> that was president obama moments ago in zachary, louisiana, addressing the devastating flooding in that state. the president toured hard-hit areas and got a firsthand look. the visit comes after criticism that he did not tour earlier. the flooding has killed 13 people, displaced thousands of others, this as the redirect examination sa-- red cross says
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donations are way down. they're asking the public to donate as generously as they can. let's turn to tammy leitner following the latest developments in baton rouge. tammy, what else did we hear from the president today? >> the one thing that struck me was the president made a plea to hearns, all americans to help however they can. whether it's volunteering or private donations. he really is asking for help from everybody. he pointed out fema has done a great job. they've been here doing a great job and funds are there but they won't last forever. let's listen to what else he had to say. >> let me just remind folks. sometimes once the floodwaters pass people's attention spans pass. this is not a one-off. this is not a photo-op issue. this is how do you make sure that a month from now, three months from now, six months from
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now people still are getting the help they need? >> and keep in mind it's going to take time and it's going to take money to rebuild. hurricane katrina was 11 years ago. after that for weeks and months and years that followed we watched victims relocate, rebuild and so we know how long it takes to recover. kate? >> i've covered many of them myselves. it's devastating. i know the president is still on the ground meeting with families of the officers who were shot and killed in baton rouge? >> if you remember, the shooting that happened in mid-july, three baton rouge police officers gunned down then there was the shooting in the beginning of july when alton sterling was shot and killed by a police officer, two police officers after they believed he was pulling a gun on them. so hoob will stop and speak with those families on his way to the airport before leaving town. >> we'll keep a close eye on
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that as that's happening all during this hour. he's expected to leave 45 minutes from now. let's get to nbc's ron allen at the white house. >> the president was criticized for not going to louisiana sooner, harold ford, jr., a democrat, said "i think he should have done something last week." what are you hearing? >> we were with the president on martha's vineyard and they pushed back very hard at the suggestion he should cut short his vacation especially when the governor came forward and said a presidential visit in the early days of the response would be disruptive because so many first responders would be assigned to protecting the president, the motorcade, roadblock, security and that's a valid consider every time something like this happens. the president has been emphasizing that the response that's most important is not him
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going there but what fema does and he sent the fema director there immediately, he declared a federal disaster immediately. the secretary of homeland security jeh johnson went down there in the days after the did sast sore the president has been emphasizing the response is what matters. not whether he goes or not. i thought it was interesting that he basically said -- issued a challenge to local officials around the country to say if there's someone who has a complaint about fema during any number of natural disasters or other disasters the white house has had to deal with during president obama's time in office that they should speak up because he was very -- the president was very strong in his defense of fema and what it's become on his watch compared to the days of katrina, we were all there and witnessed how terrible the response was then when for weeks and peex people seemed to get no assistance at all or very little. so there's always a dilemma of when the president goes. there are those who argue that
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by going immediately he would have raised the profile of this disaster, that they could perhaps argue donations might have come in. we know the donation level as the red cross said is a problem now and they'll argue had he come sooner that might have helped but the bottom line as the president said and others is we'll have to see what happened over the weeks and months to come when the cameras leave and attention moves on. >> ron allen at the white house, thank you. after the break, we'll go back down to louisiana and talk with someone from the governor's office there as over 100,000 baton rouge residents have so far register for assistance from fema in the wake of those historic floods. technology. technology... say, have you seen all the amazing technology in geico's mobile app? mobile app? look. electronic id cards, emergency roadside service, i can even submit a claim.
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it the worst natural disaster since superstorm sandy. 6,100 people have registered with fema and president obama said assistance has reached $127 million coming from the federal government. i want to bring in the director of the governor's office of homeland security and emergency preparedness down in louisiana. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, kate. thanks for having me. >> absolutely. and we really want to know what's happening on the ground at this hour. we heard the president, we've had a reporter there for weeks now. what do you need most urgently. >> well, right now obviously we're trying to get out with our partners from fema and assess the shelter needs. we have about 2,500 folks in shelters. so we're trying to work with them and find them an alternative to a shelter so they can get out and get housing.
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that's the biggest thing. you heard the president say earlier anyone who wants to volunteer can go to volunteerlouisiana.gov. we would certainly welcome people to sign up there. >> so you need folks? >> yes, they can help mucking out homes, cleaning out the homes and things of that nature. that would be a great help. but beyond that, in lieu of in-kind donations we would ask people to make monetary donations. in-kind donations tend to fill up warehouses and sometimes it's things we can't use. >> in other words you don't need blankets and toys and things like that, you need money. >> yeah, that would be preferable. if people donate -- we're starting to get tractor-trailer loads of that stuff so we have to find space for it before we can issue it so monetary donations are preferable to in-kind donations. >> we heard the president
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mention the red cross, they put out a statement today saying they need donations. the red cross has received approximately $7.8 million in donations and pledges designated to support louisiana which is not nearly enough to cover our costs of an estimated $30 million. do you feel like you're running short right now in terms of the overall money you have to deal with the situation? >> well, with from the state of louisiana's perspective, i'm just coming out of that response phase and from a recovery standpoint, any donations we can get there will help us. obviously through the stafford act we will get money as the president mentioned coming to us for public assistance and individual assistance piece and temporary shelter assistance but the red cross primarily is in the shelter business so if any donations that can be made to
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them would be most helpful. this is a historic flood event. as you may or may not know, this is our third stafford act disaster since january since governor edwards took over. we had one in january as soon as he took office and the recent one in march which impacted 29,000 homes. here we estimate it will be upwards of 100,000 homes damaged? >> 100,000? >> that's correct. >> we've been saying 60,000. now you're saying 100,000 homes? >> it's going to be above 60,000 is our indication at this point as we get out there and get the damage assessments. we still have water in some cases in the lower parts of ascension parish and southwest louisiana. it's not just here in the capital region, it's southwest louisiana. there were 20 parishes affected by this storm. >> we wish you all the very best
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of luck and encourage people to help you out. thank you for being with us and spending time. >> thank you for having me. for more i want to bring in the former fema director for the southeast under president bill clinton, a man who knows something about coordinating after disasters. you know about responding to floods. we're talking about how we've moved into the recovery phase of this and people trying to rebuild their homes. what do you do at this stage in your experience? what has to happen now? >> well, there are a couple different things that need to be done, kate, just depending on where the water is and where it's not. a comparable situation that we had to deal with back in 1999 was hurricane floyd and the tremendous flooding in the eastern third of north carolina and one of the first things that you see is that you have to wait until the water recedes before you can allow people to go into their houses and muck out their houses but in some instances you
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have to be careful because there potentially was contaminated water in some of those reside e residences and that puts it on a different footing so you have to kind of do your home work before you allow residents back in and it's a very emotional process because from the outside it looks like their home wasn't tremendously damaged but once they get into it they see that little and sometimes nothing can be salvaged. >> today the president said fema is doing a great job, no complaints about fema. but i think back -- everybody thinks back to hurricane katrina and heck of a job brownie and fema really got a bad rap during katrina. has it fundamentally changed? has the agency changed? have you seen improvement in the way the u.s. responds to disasters like this? >> i have and part of it is due
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to some of the changes in leadership. administrator fugate is extremely experienced in terms of disaster response. i think fema is a well-trained well-oiled organization. they were operating under a number of constraints during hurricane katrina that made their response less than optimal but what we're seeing today is favorable in terms what have fema is doing and a loot of it is in coordination with other agencies. with state agencies. there are a number of considerations that have to be addressed up to the fact that there will be standing water and the spread of diseases. >> i think we'll cover this for a long time to come. thank you so much for being with us, former fema director for the
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this election season has shattered the norms of political precedent. a textbook example of that, the enormously important voting block of married women. republicans have carried that group for more than 40 years but that could change, irin carmon joins me now off an in-depth panel with a group of those voters in ohio. >> good to see you, kate. >> what we wanted to do, we wanted to hear not just from these pivotal women, specif specifically white married women in the suburbs of cleveland,
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ohio. we wanted them to talk to each other. these are women who don't talk about politics, they're community service oriented. but we asked them a mix of trump supporters, clinton support yer and women on the fence and here's what they were thinking. here's what they had to say. >> i would love to put a sign out on my yard for hillary and i know there's people that would want to put their sign out but i think people are afraid they may get hurt. >> afraid of being physically hurt? >> yes, i believe there would be people -- you know how people don't do nice things all the time. >> unfortunately. >> they're pretty destructive and you don't see trump and hillary sides around. not like in past elections. >> okay, honey, but it's only august and you really think it wouldn't matter if it was a hillary or trump sign? really? >> no, i don't think either one. i think this has been a very dangerous competition. >> oh, i know. >> i don't think it's been a pleasant one for the american
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people or for either one of them. >> i think it's emotional. >> but i think that could be why a lot of people are not getting in groups. some of my friends, man, we've gotten in fights and that's not good. that's never happened before. before it was always a friendly -- maybe not so differently. i mean, they always had their nasty commercials. >> do you agree that this election feels nastier than the ones in the past? >> oh, i definitely do. definitely do. >> a lot more emotional. >> the question for clinton is going to be does she get brought into the unprecedented nature that trump has introduced into this election? will voters find them to be equally unpleasant, nasty, emotional, the words these ladies use and will people say this is trump or will people say i'm turned off by politics. >> so interesting to hear them say that. i was at a family gathering in and everyone was gathering talking about politics, people
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are afraid to go there this time around. all six women you spoke to were white women. i wonder if you break down the numbers are white married women more likely to be trump or clinton? >> we know the numbers are dramatically republican whether it's ohio or national. this is a group romney won double digits, sadly we don't have marital status information for john mccain but this is a group that republicans have been able to run up numbers to offset the disadvantages that they have with single women. when you drill down it's usually the majority white women who are voting for republicans but in our most recent nbc news "wall street journal" poll which was taken up until august 3 you see actually trump nearly tied among white married women and you see an almost 10-point advantage for hillary clinton with married women overall. so if these numbers hold, that's not good news for donald trump. >> so interesting. irin carmon, thank you so much,
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appreciate it. a new report based on fec filings says donald trump jacked up the rent in his own -- that his own campaign is paying for using office space in new york's trump tower. charging the campaign four times more for using the same space once he began accepting donor contributions. joining me now, josh maybe i shouldn't have said the same space because they argue a bigger space just this afternoon tim kaine took this up. take a listen. >> donald trump is renting space in one of his buildings to his campaign and the qualm pain is paying him specially for the space. he was self-funding for a while but once he started to fund raise dramatically he immediately tripled the rent payment that his campaign was
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paying him personally. so once donors were writing him checks trump said wow, i can get more money personally out of th this. >> it looks like an easy story for democrats. >> it wasn't an immediate jump. the rent payments have stepped up and the trump campaign has said they were using more office space they were initially just using a floor. the strange thing about it, the overall staff campaign hasn't goon up when they increased the amount of office space so one of the question is who's sitting in that space, what are they using it for? it's not clear how much of the staff works out of trump tower everyday, how much is in the field so maybe there are more people sitting in manhattan now but you would think maybe you're getting to a point where you want staff. >> in fairness we should read the statement we got from the trump campaign. they say we calculated the rent based on the average rent per square foot in the area. the campaign expanded from part
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of a single floor by adding the entirety of two separate floors. overall we still pay over $40,000 less in rent than the clinton campaign. mr. trump makes a personal contribution of $2 million per month to the campaign, obviously a much higher amount than rent, the reports obfuscate by talking about percentages of fund-raising instead of amounts. >> i mean donald trump put somewhere on the order of $50 million into this campaign during the primary. it was a loan initially and people were speculating is he going to try to pay himself back but he can no longer do that at the end of the primary he had to pay back the loan if he's renting office space to himself, ultimately this campaign will cost him a large amount of money. >> josh, thank you for being with us, mike pence is getting a taste of life on the road. this is what happened between campaign stops today in
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ask your doctor about xarelto. there's more to know. xarelto. in charlotte, north carolina, many questions remain unanswered following the death of a deaf man who was shot and killed by a state trooper. the incident happened last thursday night steps from the home of 29-year-old daniel harris. according to officials, the officer attempted to pull harris over for speeding but he continued home instead where the deadly confrontation occurred. my colleague tamron hall has more. >> a community in mourning. family and friends gathering monday night to remember daniel harris. his young son lighting a candle for his father now gone from his life forever. harris, who was deaf, was fatally shot by a state trooper last thursday night after allegedly failing to pull over for speeding, leading police on
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a brief pursuit that ended outside his home. harris' brother sam who is also deaf remembered his sibling. >> a handsome man, a beautiful smile. it was easy to smile, too, great sense of humor, sociable. >> reporter: in a statement, the north carolina highway patrol said in part "the driver exited his vehicle an an encounter took place between the driver and the trooper causing a shot to be fired." >> when the gunshot went off, really, it was scary. >> reporter: mark berenger is harris' neighbor and witnessed the shooting. >> they should have been trained to realize this is an entirely different situation. you're pulling someone over that's deaf, they're handicapped. >> reporter: daniel's brother says he experienced similar situations. >> i pulled over and within a few seconds the officer is at my window with his weapon drawn and in my face and it's like i'm motioning to him "i'm deaf, i'm deaf, i'm deaf." >> in a statement to nbc news,
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the national association of the deaf says "deaf individuals often are unable to understand the verbal commands of law enforcement officers and this has led to many physical altercations between law enforcement officers and deaf individuals over the years with some resulting in death." a crowd funding site has been set up by the harris family for a memorial and according to one post, any additional fund willing go toward educating and training law enforcement in dealing with the deaf. >> such a sad story. i want to bring in msnbc chief legal correspondent ari melber. ari, to start out, do we know where the investigation stands? where the officer is? >> we know the officer is on administrative leave, this is a state where you have an independent investigation so you don't have that automatic conflict that we've seen with police investigating themselves and they're calling it a criminal investigation and we view it as a situation where there's a crime that would be potentially by the officer depending on what happened. >> and you heard about whether
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it was because he's deaf and perhaps he was using sign language or something was misunderstood. how often does this kind of thing happen not with just people who are hearing disable bud other disabilities? >> you look at an incident like this that gets so much attention because it does feel tragic based on what little we know and people wonder if this is an incident or epidemic. the answer is largely the latter. a foundation look at this and i wrote about in the nbcnews.com, about a third to half of all police-involved shootings last year involve people with some kind of disability. >> wait, one-third to half? >> one-third to half. now let's be clear, that does not mean, of course, automatically those situations were what in police parlance is called a bad shot or unjustified shooting. but it's certainly raising the questions about whether police are getting the right training to deal with these scenarios, whether when dealing with someone who if they were, shall we say, a typical suspect, would be doing things that are
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considered resistance in a non-typical scenario or a disabled scenario they're just doing the best they literally can and there's great miscommunication and are officers escalating or deescalating? >> i've heard mention of the possibility of having -- when the police pull up on someone and they run the license plate that maybe it could show the person has a disability. does that happen in most states now or is that something that states are looking into? >> i don't know the numbers on that in particular. i do know there are places where we've seen specific training on this so you would either say look for that information, is it kept in a file, if not, look to analyze the scenario and, again, deescalate. and one of the reasons this tracks with other concerns we've seen around civil rights and use of force is when you pull someone over if they're unarmed, even if they are not compliant, should the use of deadly force be something near the first resort or the last resort? obviously you want it to be the last resort. we see escalation sometimes in tragic ways. >> ari melber, thanks so much.
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. florida governor rick scott says that they're investigating five new case of nontravel related zika and four of the cases are in the impacted wynnewood area near miami and the fifth case is in panellas county and we're in st. petersbu petersburg, florida. >> reporter: i'm on the 15th floor, and we are with one of the people that is hear thag there's locally passed zika in this county. i'm going to step out of the way here and you're how far along
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now? >> i'm 37 weeks gary. >> reporter: so when you hear that there maybe see see in the mosquito population here, what goes through your mind? >> i'm very concerned, and i'm more nervous for the new moms just getting pregnant right now with the start of zika here in our own community but also i try to take the proper precautions. >> reporter: which is what? >> when i found out about zika back in february and did the research and so forth, i started to have my lawn sprayed. we had someone that comes out out and sprays our lawn every three weeks. i start today go maonthly and having extra son grams and measuring the head. >> so you have -- you have heard named your your little boy?
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>> yes, we call him mac after hi husband who is big mac. >> reporter: what do the pictures tell you and the doctors? >> well, what they look for when they measure the head here is the top of the skull, and they want to make sure that it's in the correct percentile. >> reporter: what have you heard from the doctors and do you know that he is not going to have it? >> well, at this point with the measurements if it's on point, he does not have it, but as you can imagine my anxiety and other mothers when they're rubbing the -- rdoing the ultra sound ad they're saying that they hope that the baby is not in the 27th percentile, and it's an anxious moment for all moms. >> and probably anxious not only for you now but for a lot of woman that were across this county now panellas county and
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