me. they've been letting you down for many years. i will not let you down. together, we're going to win this state in negative and we are going to win the white house for the american people. the white house will soon become the people's house. that's what it's going to be. we will tackle and fix the problems that have gone unsolved for many, many years. failing schools, crumbling infrastructure, broken borders. bloated bureaucracy, wasteful spending and a government that doesn't work. it doesn't work. this is a campaign about big ideas designed to help every day

people. these are the people who work hard, but who don't have a voice. their voice has been taken away. it's also a campaign about restoring honesty and accountability to government. and you see what a mess we're in today. the whole world has been shocked by the continuing revelations regarding hillary clinton and her pay for play state department and other things. now, it was just announced that her important calendar records will not be released, even though they have them, to the public until after the election because there's too much stuff on that. they want it after the election. it's only, it's terrible. it's terrible. it's protection from a corrupt,

rigged system. it's disgusting. as i've said many times in recent days, it's hard to tell where the clinton foundation ends and the state department gins. that's what's happened. it's really what happened. sad. the clinton corruption scandals have been really there for a long time and it's been sad, sad, sad for america. the illegal server, the foreign hacking, the deleted -- oh, 33. how many? 33,000. the deleted e-mails. 33,000. the secret schedules, the lying to congress. it's all just too much. we're going to have a great victory on november 8th. i can tell you.

we're going to have a great victory. thank you. thank you. how much more can voters take? not much more. thank you. hillary clinton thinks she's entitled to be president. by the way, she got very bad judgment. got very bad judgment. even if she thinks that, she has bad judgment. she thinks she's above the law. so far she's proven that. but the truth is, it's the opposite. her criminal conduct at home and her failed interventions overseas simply make her unfit. she's unfit to serve in the oval office. i believe that america is ready to turn the page on this very

sorted past. we don't want another four years of obama or clinton controversies. they're not only dangerous, but, frankly, they're exhausting our people. how do you even keep up with it all? how do you do that? the clintons have had their time on the stage, but now it's time to close that chapter in the history book and open a brand-new beautiful chapter. thank you. thank you very much. that is why this is such an exciting year to be a republican and to vote republican. we're going to do a great job. this year the gop is offering the voters a chance to break up the corrupt establishment and create a new american future.

in my opinion, this is our last chance. i really believe that. this chance will never come again. and, remember, justices of the supreme court. remember that. this, it will never, ever come again. it will never happen again. i really believe you're not going to have this opportunity again. the big banks and wall street donors who want nothing to change are throwing millions and millions of dollars at my opponent. these are the same people who paid bill and hillary clinton $150 million for speeches and i guess some other things. hillary clinton's campaign is all about protecting the powerful. and i understand that very well. i think nobody knows the system better than i do. our campaign is about protecting those who have no power. they don't have power. but they're great, great people.

they are great people without power. we're going to change that. they will be great people with power. together, we're going to work. we're going to give working people a voice for the first time in many, many decades. they haven't had a choice in a long time. let's talk about what it all means. for our veterans, it means a guarantee that they can seek medical care at either a va facility or a private medical doctor with us paying the cost. and thank you. because we've had such incredible veteran support. just uniform all across the land. never again will we allow a veteran to die waiting for the care they need from a doctor who's fine doctor, but you

can't get to ever see your doctor. you wait six days, seven days, nine days. people are dying onliin line. that's not going to happen. we will protect those who protect us. these are our great people. we're going to protect them. it's our turn now. at the center of the change, this is a change agenda is also a plan to fix our rigged economy. it's rigged. the government just revised the growth numbers. you probably saw yesterday, a big story. we had horrible growth numbers. they were announced last month. they made a mistake. they just announced that the number that was announced that was so bad was too high and it had to be readjusted downward. down to 1.1%. just so you understand. if china jumps down to 8% gdp or 9% gdp, it's a major

catastrophe. and the same with other countries. and they do things that you don't want to know about, but they make it impossible for your businesses to compete. but they consider it a catastrophe. here we are with no growth. 1.1%. which is no growth. and we have the same leaders that are incompetent and don't know what they're doing but we're going to make a change. we're going to make america grow again. grow. that begins with supporting our family farms right here in iowa. do we have any farmers in the room? do we have any farmers? stand up. i want to see what our farmers -- stand up. that's a lot of farmers. that's a lot of farmers. wow. beautiful. that's a lot of farmers. great farmers. one of the most beautiful

landscapes in the world. especially if you like farms, right. family farms are the back bone of this country. remember that. and i know what's happening to you. we are going to end the epa intrusion into your family homes and into your family farms for no reason. what they're doing to you is a disgrace. we're going to get rid of a lot of those regulations that don't mean anything, except cost you a lot of money and a lot of time and in many cases you lose your farms over the regulations. we are going to reduce taxes from 35% to 15%. and the thing, the thing that most surprised me in going around all over the country and talking about that massive tax cut and also for the middle class, but the massive small business and business tax cut or the reduction by a lot of regulations, 100% of the people

we talk to feel more strongly about the regulations and who would have thought about that? who could have thought that happened? they feel more strongly about getting rid of these horrible, really horrible regulations and that's what we're going to do. we are going to protect the renewable fuel standard. corn-based ethanol, eliminate job-killing regulations like the waters of the united states rule. which is a disaster. and provide desperately needed tax relief. president obama, president obama lied to you about his support for the renewable fuel standard. and you can trust hillary clinton far less than you could even obama. she will sell you out.

she's already sold you out and her donors will be the only ones that are happy. believe me. and you see it happening. just like obama. he made lots of promises. and then he said, bye-bye to iowa. bye-bye. and to other places. almost 97% of farms in this country are family owned and family managed. it's not only a great american tradition, but a vital component of america's economic and national security. so true. yet, hillary clinton wants to shut down family farms. she wants to shut down the miners and the steel workers. she's going to shut that down. that i can tell you. she will do this not only through radical regulation, but also by raising taxes on family farms to rates as high as and i think actually higher than 50%. and just so you understand, i'm cutting taxes massively.

she's raising taxes massively. she's raising taxes. adding to the pain. she will tax family farms again at death by as much as 45%. and you've already paid your tax. right? you've paid your tax and now you're going to pay it again and your children and family, very tough situation. you know that. on top of that, her anti-energy agenda will drive up the cost of energy another attack on agriculture. a big attack on what you're doing because we need the energy. we're going to end this war on the american farmer. you are going to like donald trump so much. i'm telling you. you're going to like donald trump. we get it. we all get it. we understand what's going on. that includes our plan to lower the tax rate on family farms down to 15% and to stop double

taxation on the family farms at death. helping to ensure that the family tradition in iowa continues to thrive and flourish with your children and your grandchildren and you'll be looking down and you'll be happy. we hope you're looking down, anyway. we hope you're looking doun. you'll be very happy and very proud. we're going to make a very powerful and great trade deal. we're going to have fantastic trade deals. right now we have horrible trade deals. we have the worst trade deals. our country loses, if you look at our trade deficit with the world, $800 billion a year. can you imagine this? who makes these deals? who makes them? let me quote someone i got to know very well. reverend robert schuller. tough times don't last. tough people do. i think it's a great quote.

i think it's a great quote. i know you're going through tough times with the farms. we'll be there soon for you. i was so happy to have the support of the evangelical community all over the country. all of them. incredible people. incredible. i hope we can continue to count on evangelical support on november 8th. get out there and vote. we are going to do something very, very special. by the way, i'm protestant. i'm presbyterian. can you believe this. everyone says, really, i don't believe it. i'm presbyterian. very proud of it. we will get rid of the johnson amendment, which is a disaster. which really is a horrible thing. it denies your pastors their right to free speech. and it's had a huge negative

impact on religion. a huge negative. we will let your pastors, your ministers, your rabbis and your priests and we'll let them speak agn without losing tax deductibility. we will let them speak. we will let them speak again. we want them to speak. right now they cannot speak. because they will lose all of the benefits that they used to have. 1954. complete disaster. and it's so important that the pastors are going to be talking about it. it's so important that everybody in the evangelical community and other religious communities get out and vote. on november 8th. again, this will be a one-time shot. it was only put there in 1954 by lyndon johnson. so important you get out and vote on november 8th.

we'll get rid of it. it should have never happened in the first place. i also know how much the ev evangelical community is deeply committed to helping those in poverty. i know it for a fact. my economic agenda can be summed up in three words, three beautiful words. jobs, jobs, jobs. which we don't have now. i don't even have to mention the tremendous construction workers in this room because i think i have every single one of them. i love my construction workers. do you know how much i've built construction workers. you have a lot of construction workers in iowa. i was surprised to see how many. they love this state and i hope they get out on november 8th. of all americans who want more opportunity and higher wages and safe communities, competent

leadership and honest government. very simple. thank you. we're going to send the special interest packing and we're going to, once again, have a government of, by and for the people. going to happen. remember, we sometimes forget. republicans are the party of abraham lincoln. pretty good president, right? pretty good. i said i'm going to be the most presidential president you've ever had and then i thought about abraham lincoln and i said, i don't know. he's pretty tough to beat. abraham lincoln. he's pretty good. that is a great republican. which brings me to a subject

that is so important and very personal for me. nothing means more to me than working to make our party the home of the african-american vote, once again. used to be. there are millions and millions of african-americans in this country who have succeeded so greatly and who deserve a government that protects and honors their incredible contribution. so many have been so successful. very nice. but we also have to talk about the millions of african-americans who remain trapped in poverty and in failing schools. they're trapped. i've spoken to a lot. in recent days. a lot of people and i've spoken a lot about the deplorable conditions in many of our inner

cities just about all of them. as a father, as a buildier, as n american, it offends my sense of right and wrong to see anyone living in such conditions. they are living in terrible, terrible conditions. beyond belief conditions. bad. almost 40% of african-american children are living in poverty abject poverty. including 45% of children under the age of 6. in detroit, half of its residents do not work. in milwaukee, almost four in ten african-american men between the age of 24 and 54 are not employed and have no prospect of employment.

just since yesterday the cousin of nba star dwyane wade, a great guy, dwyane wade. was the victim of a tragic shooting in chicago. she was the mother of four and was killed while pushing her infant child in a stroller just walking down the street. shot. it breaks all of our hearts to see it. it's horrible. it's horrible. and it's only getting worse. this shouldn't happen in our country. this shouldn't happen in america. so we send our thoughts and prayers to the family. and we also promise to fight for a much, much better tomorrow. across -- thank you.

across chicago more than 2,700 have been shooting victims since january of this year. think of it. 2,700 people have been shot since january. we cannot, as a society, tolerate this level of violence and suffering in our cities. those who would deny that and you know there are many people that do. and they have their own reasons. many of them are not good reasons. but this is a national crisis. this is a crisis that requires urgent action. have no business. none of these people have any business that support what's been going on running for elected office. none of these people should be even allowed to run. they're a disgrace. for decades and decades and decades, failed democratic policies. the policy of hillary clinton

have created this high crime and crushing poverty. absolutely crushing poverty. and so many communities under democratic control, we have bad schools, no jobs, high crime and no hope. it can't get any worse. to those suffering, i say vote for donald trump. i will fix it. african-americans, hispanics, vote for donald trump. i will fix it. it will get fixed. and i add and i add it with all sincerity. what do you have to lose? it can't get any worse. what do you have to lose?

let me also tell you what you have to gain. millions of jobs, far better schools, safe communities. you can, in fact, walk outside and walk down the street with your child. with your wife or your husband, by yourself and not be killed and not be shot. not be mugged. we're going to have safe communities, again. and the african-american voter has seen what's been happening over the last two weeks and three weeks with me. and i'll tell you, i think we have a lot of support out there. they're very, very tired of what's been going on. and the hispanic community likewise. they're very sick and tired of what's going on. and it's been going on for decades and decades and decades. by the way, how quickly people have forgotten that hillary clinton called black youth

superpredators. remember that? super predators. and they were very, very insulted. but now people have forgot. i'm running to offer a better future to the citizens of detroit, of baltimore, of chicago. all across this great land inner city and outer city. all over. everybody. we're going to come together. we're going to have one great country. greater than ever before. what is sad is that african-americans have given so much to this country. they fought and died in every war since the revolution. they've lifted up the conscious of our nation in the civil rights movement. they've sacrificed so much for the national good. now is a time to put a new agenda into action that expands opportunity, ensures equality

and that protects the rights of each and every citizen, including african-american citizens. we have to have help. we have to stop the crime. we have to stop the bad education. we have to help with housing. we have to solve our inner city problems and we will. i will fix it. this includes one of the most important rights of all. the right to live in safety. i will work with communities, with police and with federal law enforcement to make communities safe and secure for all of our people. we are also going to end the discrimination that traps parents and kids in failing government schools. our schools are a disaster.

the republican party and me is a party of school choice. you will see a big difference. big, big difference. there is another civil rights issue we need to talk about. and that's the issue of immigration enforcement. every time an african-american citizen or a hispanic citizen or any citizen loses their job to an illegal immigrant, the rights of that american citizen have been totally violated and they're losing their jobs. it is. it's an economic question also. equal protection under the law must include the consistent application of our immigration laws. very simple. these laws were passed to protect american citizens and lawful residents of our country. for instance, federal law

protects the ability of american workers to seek jobs and employment. when government suspends those immigration laws in order to favor with special interest and give them campaign contributions and big ones costing americans their jobs. they have been denied the protection of their laws. in recent days, the media, as it usually does, has missed the whole point on immigration. they have missed the point. they have missed the point. all the media wants to talk about is the 11 million people or more or less. they have no idea what the number is because we have no control over our country. they have no idea what it is. that are here illegally. but my priority and really is for the well being of everybody, but in particular the 300 million americans and more.

and all of our hispanic silt z s and african-american citizens and legal residents who want a secure border. and i mean secure. they want drugs to stop flowing into their states and into their communities. and they want a great, growing economy. and they want a job. my goal is to provide good jobs and even great jobs. good schools and safety to every hispanic community, african-american community in the country. but, really, what is it? it's to every community. every single community. we can't do that if we don't secure our border. we can't do it. on day one, i'm going to begin swiftly removing criminal,

illegal immigrants from this country. including removing the hundreds and thousands of criminal illegal immigrants that have been released into the united states and united states communities under the incompetent obama /clinton administration. these international gangs of thugs and drug cartels will be, i promise you, from the first day in office the first thing i'm going to do. the first piece of paper that i'm going to sign is we're going to get rid of these people. day one. before the wall, before anything. and our great law enforcement, they know who they are. they've been living with them for years. and they don't want to put up

with it any more. so, we are going to get rid of them day one. we start day one. you go to some places and you will see the reign of terror will be over and it will be over fast. remember, our law enforcement and our police, who, by the way, should get a treend tmendous ha because of what they have to put up with. they are great people. they are great people. but they know these people. i met with so many of the top police and the people in the rank and file. they know these people. so, it's not like, oh, gee, they know all of them. they know the good ones, the bad ones. they know all of them. we are going to get rid of the criminals and it's going to happen within one hour after i take office we start. okay.

and bring them back where they came from. in this task we will always err on the side of protecting the american people. we will use immigration law to prevent crimes and we will not wait until some innocent american has been harmed or killed before taking action. we will move justly, but we will move fast. believe me. and we will move tough. there won't be any games. there won't be any games. flz these are bad people. oh, wow. >> welcome back. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. what a team. we're going to build a great wall on the border. and we're going to institute

nationwide e-verify and stop illegal immigrants from accessing welfare and entit entitlements and develop an exit entry. you know what that is. exit entry system to ensure those who overstay their visas that they're quickly removed. we don't enforce our visa expiration dates and then we have open borders and we have nothing but crime. it's going to end. i'm also going to cancel all unconstitutional orders. executive orders you've been hearing about that, right? we have a little, a little bit of an excessive order precedent. and empower the rank and file i.c.e. officers to finally do the jobs that they were meant to do. now, what is hillary clinton going to do, governor? what is she going to do? not much, right? she's pledged amnesty in her

first 100 days combined with her elimination of virtually all routine immigration enforcement. in other words, totally open borders. which we will lead. this is a massive crime wave. that's what's going to happen. it's not going to happen if i get elected. believe me. most alarmingly, she has pledged to keep president obama's executive amnesty, which has been blocked by the supreme court directly disregarding a supreme court injunction. beyond that, she's pledged to add another executive amnesty in violation of both congressional law and the united states constitution. these actions from hillary clinton will trigger a crisis greater than almost anything we've seen. this will be a constitutional crisis. like we haven't seen in our country. in effect, she's pledging to abolish the law-making powers of

congress and assume the powers of an imperial leader. she's not an imperial leader is she? i don't think so. i don't think so. she doesn't, she doesn't even look presidential to me. she certainly doesn't. this executive amnesty would bypass congress to print millions of work permits and benefit cards to those ineligible to receive them. hillary clinton's legislative plan, remember this, is to give illegal immigrants access to obama care, social security, medicare and u.s. welfare. i can see one man that doesn't like that very much. that wouldn't happen here, would it? her plan will functionally end enforcement of visa overstay rules and another open border decrease. you will also close down detention centers for border crossings. meaning she will have an open southern border that will bring nothing but crime and

destruction. this is not to mention that she wants a 550% increase in syrian refugees flowing into our country. and she can't even say the words radical islamic terrorism. and she supports sanctuary cities and catch and release policies that are getting innocent american killed. let me tell you, we will end that so quickly. if i get the support, i need the support. will i have the support? you are not a big one for sanctuary cities, i know that. i've met with many of these grieving families including a family that is truly incredible. the family of sarah root. an a student, straight a. a young, beautiful woman who was killed by an illegal immigrant, who was released from the border by obama. and the obama administration

with horrible policy. and then released again after the killing. i've been so inspired by the courage and bravery of the root family and so many other families. and i have the root family with us today. and i'd like them to step up and just say hello. these are incredible people. >> 30 weeks ago today, we were watching our daughter walk across the stage to get her bachelor's in criminal investigations. not to know that 15 hours later

she would be killed by an illegal alien. they arrested him. a week after my daughter is killed, he is running free. everything we do, all the fight we're doing is to save the next person from having to go through what we're going through. sarah's life cannot be just another life that was lost because of the obama administration. like mr. trump said, they let us down. they had him. they let him go. they had him again and they let him go. i want to thank him so much for all his hard work. everybody that's helped us. tried to keep the story out there. try to prevent this tragedy from happening to another person. because if hillary gets in, it will continue to happen to

everybody. trump. go trump. >> thank you so much. i'll see you back there. thank you. >> what an incredible family. and this happens so much. thousands and thousands of people. the crime is unbelievable. and we're going to stop it and we're going to stop the crime. there is a reason that we just got endorsed by 16,500 border patrol agents. they know the system better than anybody. it's easier for them to just relax, but they wanted to endorse. they wanted to see a strong border. we need a strong border if we remain a country. so, i want to just thank them in particular. thank you.

hillary's plan is very dangerous. it's very divisive. it's radical and reckless and it's recig recing the innocent of so many. allowing people to come in and you're going to have a crisis like we've never seen in this country. if i'm elected we're not going to have a crisis. we're going to have a great, strong country again. so, the choice hopefully will be clear to the people of iowa and throughout the country. a vote for trump is a vote to have a nation of laws. a vote for clinton is to have dangerous, open borders where anybody can just walk in and do whatever they want. on every issue, our campaign is about making life better for working people. but we can't accomplish that goal unless we break up the special interest monopoly and give the power back to all the

people. and that's what we're going to do. many people have said that establishment media assault on me and they have said it. that the establishment media assault on me has been the greatest that they've ever seen in the political history of our country. i feel that. i feel it. i know it. even today some major papers fail to mention how strong our poll numbers have become over the last two-week period. and we're doing very well in iowa, we happen to be leader, by the way. but, but they refuse to print it. but they'll stop printing it. they have no choice eventually. but they refuse to put it down. we're doing great. they, too, are part of a rigged system. the media is totally dishonest. trying to deny people the positive change that they're looking for and they deserve.

they take phrases and statements, chop them up, take them out of context and then they discuss them for days and days and days. always trying to demean and belittle just whatever they can do to demean and belittle. our incredible movement. because we, this is one of the great movements. maybe the greatest movement they've seen in the history of our country. many people have said that. we're going to take our country back from the death spiral that it's currently in. imagine if this much media attention was spent telling the truth about the real problem. imagine if the media spent this much time telling the story of sarah root. one of the great young people. one of the truly great outstanding young people. all of the ugly things being said by hillary clinton and our

opponents. and you know what they say about me. spending hundreds of millions of dollars on ads and phony ads and disgusting and most people know it or we won't be doing so well. believe me. she's funded by the big banks and wall street donors and nothing more than a desperate attempt by a failed leader. that's all she is. remember, she lost badly to barack obama when she won. and i think she's going to lose badly to donald trump when she won. believe me. she's clinging in order to keep that rigged system going. there's nothing they won't say or do. no lie they won't tell. no amount of money they won't spend into bully voters to give them what they want. they lie like i've never seen

anything before. the commercials are phony commercials and they're disgusting and even people on her side are saying that's going too far. it's very interesting. this november 8th, the american people are going to reject the cynicism of the past and embrace the optimism of the future. we have a great future. the old attacks are not going to work any more. the clinton fear mongrg isn't going to r. i want to empower the people. hillary clinton wants to scare the people. empowering people begins with three simple words. and you know what those words are. our economy is going to soar. we are going to make our country so strong and so powerful and we

need the power because other people are not going to want to mess with the united states of america. remember that. wages will rise. we will make new friends and we will achieve, like we haven't achieved before. and we will achieve a lasting piece through strength. we will be a country of laws and a country of great, great success. our cities will be safe, sound and secure. our government will be honest, ethical and responsive. rule by special interests will be over, over, over. the rule of the american people will begin, so let's get out and vote for november 8th and create the future our children deserve together. we will make america strong, again. together, we will make america

wealthy, again, which we have to do. together, we will make america united, again. we will make america safe, again. we will make america great again. greater than ever before. thank you, thank you very much. thank you, joni ernst. thank you. god bless you, everyone. donald trump in des moines, iowa. in front of the microphones for about 50 minutes there. i'm richard lui in new york city. watching along with us as he just finished this rally is jacob rascon, nbc correspondent there on the ground. jacob, as you were listening to many of the points that he made, pretty consistent from what we heard in the last week. >> and, richard, i would add that he talked specifics on immigration here that we were not expecting. he did mention nationally

verified and no access to entitlements for undocumented immigrants and then undocumented criminal immigrants would be gone on day one or he would sign a paper giving that order on day one before the border walk. more specifics on immigration than we heard him talk in the last week and a half. the time in which he has given these scripted remarks. notably he left out what to do without criminal records. that is the issue that has been at the heart of his hardline stance. the one where a year ago, he came out and said we need a deportation course. it really set him apart from the other, the others who were running for the republican nomination. propelled him, really, to that nomination among other things. in the last week, he seemed to waffle on that issue. he did not mention that here. but he did talk immigration. again, we heard as you mention, like we heard in the last week and a half, a direct appeal to african-american and hispanic voters. saying, again, we want every

african-american vote talking, again, about their rights and what they need and talking, as well, about the recent shooting in chicago. the high-profile shooting. he was criticized with a tweet he sent out after that. today he offered condolences for the family. notably he's in des moines, iowa. 75% or more white and among the crowd at a quick glance, it's hard to spot any african-americans. on that note, i will add nat the campaign does say that eventually he will have some stops in more urban areas. we'll see when that happens. richard? >> jacob rascon with donald trump, thank you very much. give that speech and rally there in des moines, iowa. let's build off of what jacob said. that is, what about the other noncriminal undocumented immigrants that the question is out there right now.

what is his plan with that? >> you know, richard, i think he's filling in those questions and i think it was pointed out. he's a lot more direct on the subject of immigration. frankly, went into a lot more detail than he has lately. i think he's going to continue to build on it so we know. part of what we also heard today that i don't think we talk about enough. the populous message that the government doesn't work for everyday people. i won't let you down. the system is rigged. we need trade agreements. he had the farmers stand up. you know, i think one of the things that we miss when we talk about trump's speeches is that clarity that direct discussion like you would have around a diner table and, so, it's very, very populous message which as we all know is very popular in iowa. >> congressman, as a trump senior adviser, as you are discussing some of the points of the platform here specific to the populous message is certainly all the different, if you will, flavors of the

country. the colors of the country. one part of it that he has clearly been adding towards the end of the speeches is the african-american vote. and that, of course, has been, in most cases here, talked about in fairly singular ways. inner city. poverty stricken. and that's not the majority of african-american voters. how do you think this group can be addressed better? >> well, i think what he's talking about is he says, you know what, you need, we need to have competition. you know, if i'm selling you a car and you've already told me you're not going to buy it from my competitor, i'm not going to give you the best deal that i could. maybe he doesn't continue to vote democrat party. but you should look at this and he's talking about these issues. i mean -- >> why so singularly. why is it always inner city and poverty stricken? that certainly does not resonate if he were to be addressing that group, that group. >> you know, it's interesting. i think part of what he's also talking about with immigration is the fact that illegals

undercut the wage scale and that cuts across all demographics. so, whether you're african-american or hispanic or white or whatever you're concerned about that. i think that is something that appeals to all rights. >> he's bringing two different topics together that have many layers of that. i don't want to go there yet on that topic. i want to get your thought on this. "new york times" headlines today. no vacancy for blacks and how donald trump got his start and was first accused of bias. basically, the piece analysts decades old government files. they say they uncovered a long history of racial bias at trump's properties. but how do you put that together with what he's trying to do today? do you know if these policies were put in place by him or his father. >> you know, richard, i would never accuse "new york times" of having an agenda when it comes to the trump campaign. the reality is, though, he has created lots and lots of

businesses. recently reaching out to jesse jackson and the rainbow push campaigns to give them real estate. he's also had a history of in his private clubs which he has created of minority inclusion. and that's something that, you know, he's gone out on a limb about. i think if he had a history of racial discrimination in his corporations, we would well know about it and i'm sure the "new york times" would be the first -- >> in these government files. that would result in history of documentation of these incidents happening. but i want to finish with this because i know we've all got squeezed on time here. that is i want to go back to immigration the way we started here. what about those children that were brought in by parents into this country who are not documented citizens. but they're undocumented, as well. what do you think donald trump should do about them? >> well, number one. i think the fact that we're talking about immigration is because of donald trump. and he is saying let's

consistently enforce existing laws and let's go through the, you know, who is going to be deported and started out with the bad guys. remember, barack obama -- >> should these children be deported, as well. >> border security and no sanctua sanctuary. people like sarah root would not be murdered. let's make the streets safe, again. i think that we're somewhat over some of the -- let me say, richard. this is an important point but i think the overall arching difference between hillary clinton who is open borders. who is pro-amnesty and who is pro sanctuary cities. there is big difference. thanks, richard. >> thanks for sitting with us and giving us your perspective. trump senior adviser. let's bring in our panel now. national reporter for "new york times" ed martin and jonathan

alter, msnbc political analyst and columnist for daily beast. we only have four minutes here. he talked longer than usual. we'll start with you. what are minority viewers saying as you're out covering this election. what are minority voters saying about this latest debate and the call for their vote? >> they're saying the way that donald trump is going after him is really offensive. and he's talking to these crowds that are 99 to 95% white. he's not going into the communities and he has yet, as of today, not held a single campaign event and not one in a hispanic community. he's inviting people up the trump tower and invited people, but he's not going into these communities. people are really offended by the fact that he hasn't done this and stop painting our communities in this way with this broad brush that is making us look like people who have all these problems. we are not a problem that need to be fixed. we are people who want to have

jobs and good educations. talk about good issues and talk about that and the idea thatou want to have real policies. specific policies for us, not just people that need to be fixed. >> bring that discussion to the folks that you're talking about. ed, i want you to respond to what was said there. >> i'm just a few miles from ferguson and i can tell you i don't mean to be facetious. we have schools that are really failing lots of african-americans and poor kids and we have violence that's really failing african-american families. we have a whole set of problems. what i find incredible that we're not having a different conversation. instead of saying, wow, we have a major leader who is talking about school choice and real problems and, instead, we should be saying just when clinton is on the ropes. when she's got a problem of

corruption, she really throws the card. it's the right wing conspiracy card that she's played 15, 20 years ago. >> a lot of folks saying as we were talking about earlier with mr. kingston, he should go to those areas like ferguson. i got to leave it there because i want to let jonathan get the final word. he is definitely doubling down and pushing the issue of going for african-american voters and giving us more details on immigration today. >> i don't think he's going for african-american voters. i think this is all about white women in the suburbs. >> right. >> he's addressing them and saying i'm giving you a permission slip. you're worried that i'm a bigot. here i'm telling you i'm not a bigot. >> that could make a difference like iowa. >> a lot of people in iowa and a lot of other states. he hasn't done well with republican women. and he's trying to get some of them back. they don't want to see their candidate as a bigot. so, that's what he's trying to take the edges off.

this is not directed at african-americans. >> 3.5% -- >> he's not going to get very many of their votes. this is about white women in the suburbs. >> make the difference in iowa where he is at then? >> he is doing well in iowa and any clinton supporters who think this election is in the bag, they're dreaming. they need to get online and call into battleground states because this thing is going to be a lot closer than it looks right now. >> final word to you here. let's look at, for instance, georgia. that can make a difference. even if you were to get a sliver of the african-american vote, if even possible. >> the democrat that i talked to that are working in georgia are having a plan to flip that state there. they are going out to african-americans who have infrequently voted and people that they targeted and democrats. they're trying to do that and flip that state. they are feeling really confident about that state. >> all three of you are super guests. ed, i owe you one on this one.

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