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that's all for this edition of "dateline extra," i am tamron hall, thanks for watching. i told myself the worst part about dying is being afraid of dying. if i am not afraid, it won't be so bad? i just could not believe this was the way it is going to happen. >> she was a college student found on a lonely road in texas. >> we figured she had been sexually assaulted and dumped here. >> tough questions for her boyfriend. where was i the night before and
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what was i doing and when did i see her? while police tried to prove it? another attack. >> he's yelling at me and telling me not to say a word. >> you are a prisoner in this now? >> yes. >> what do we have in our hands here? >> there is rowing danger because police are looking in a calm place. >> i live to tell and nobody believed me. this monster is walking free while they are wasting their time running. >> can the killer be caught before he kills again? it manges you realize how fragile your life is and anybody can take it. >> welcome to "dateline extra," i am tamron hall. a killer is on the loose leaving students and their parents terrified with a shocking discovery of jaime harts' body,
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investigators were trying to piece together clues desperately. was the young woman connected to her killer or did police have an active predator on their hands stocking women in a college campus. >> looking back now, this woman did not almost make it. >> i said if you keep on doing this, you are going to kill me. >> is that when you feel like you are looking in the face of evil? >> i knew that he intended on killing me. >> little did she know that in this college town she was not the only one. >> he said he would go to jail for murder before he will go to jail for rape. what was going through your mind? >> i wish i told the people that i loved them. >> what is going on in this communi communi community? more women connected by tragedies and questions. could a killer have been stopped
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sooner? >> i was so angry that two people had to die in order to someone to believe me. the story begins in a small texas town, but it is not just any tonight. this is college station, home to texas a&m. in 1999, home to 21-year-old student, jaime harts. i was struck with her beauty. >> chuck cruz was her boyfriend at the time. he said jaime was the life of his life, when he first laid eyes on her. >> she was so pretty. when the colors came on "wizard of oz" and she showed me the world. >> she was a loyal friend and out spoken. she would tell you what was on her mind all the times.
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it was early one morning in may, jaime's roommate could not find her and they called chuck. i got a call and i don't know where she was and i had not talk to her the night before and i went to work. that same morning, detective henry eliot of the brazos's office was summoned to the scene. >> there is a young female early in her 20s. she was nude and she obviously is deceased. >> a jogger spotted the victim in a ditch nine feet on the side of the road. probably half a dozen officers here, taped off the area and blocked traffic at that point where you can start kconductinga search in the area and she's sexually assaulted and did you wanted dumped here.
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deputies discovered wh-- anothe mile from there is an abandoned vehicle and its engine were still running. >> there were blood in the car and it is still running. inside the car, a driver's license that belonged to jaime harts. when detectives showed up at chuck's workplace that afternoon, he said his heart sank. when they told me that she had been found dead, it felt like i was hit by a truck. >> wow. >> so your sense of dread was coming true. >> right, fully realized. >> did fierce spread throughout the campus? >> yes. it was front page news. kristen lane caster was a 19-year-old freshman. my brother actually worked with jaime at the time and he's
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coming home devastated. >> a killer in a college town is terrified. >> this is something that happens in chicago or houston, it is not something that happens in college station, in aggie land. >> kelley brown is the editor of a local newspaper. the location of her body. >> sheriff deputies canvassed the crime scene and searched for jaime's car and looked for eye witnesses. >> i talked to several hundreds people and no one seen anything. there were no fingerprints inside the car. autopsy, the medical examiner, did recover dna from jaime's body. dna came from her rapist and killer. >> did you put the dna in a database? >> any hits? >> none. >> no eyewitnesss and fingerprints and no matches. the investigation was not off to a good start. >> that's when we started to
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contact people of her place of informants and friends and roommates >> did she have any enemies? everybody seem to love her. jaime was taking her time off studying and was working at a pizza parlor and her shift ended at mid night. >> we contacted everybody. after work she headed over to a friend's house. they were there watching movies and she left his house around 4:30 in the morning. at what time did you think she was killed. >> we got the call around 6:15 a.m. so between 4:30 a.m. or 7:00. the male friend was the last known person to see jaime alive. the detective paid him a visit. he was upset, obviously. they were friends and had been for sometime. the friend's grieve seems
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genuine but something was peculiar and he said no. >> no? >> of course, he want to know why. >> was he the killer or not? >> the detective put the young man under surveillance and followed him in a local restaurant. he watched the student had a few drinks and when he left, the detective snagged the beer mug and sent it out for dna testing. the results would take weeks. >> dads and moms were telling college aid kids to be alert where ever you go. go with people when you go out and don't be alone. that's a frightening order to give anybody. frightening but sound advice. in this case, connecting the dots would not be so easy. coming up, detectives have a second possible suspect in their
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sites. jaime's boyfriend is invited to sit down for polygraph tests. >> failed the test. >> that's a bad sign for you, right? >> bad sign for him. when "dateline extra" continues. . the dance class they love. every single piece of them is going to make it through. and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen by funding research, advancing public policy and spurring scientific breakthroughs. and by providing local support to those living with the disease and their caregivers, we're easing the burden for all those facing it until we accomplish our goal. alzheimer's disease has devastated millions of lives. but that's all going to change when we reach the first survivor.
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welcome back continuing our story, a college campus was rocked by the rape of a murder of a young woman. police honed in on the last person seen jaime hart alive. this case was far from being solved. it was time to look at other possible suspects. turning to the face of evil. >> 21-year-old jaime hart was sexually assaulted and left to die on the side of the road way.
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i can barely function. she's gone from my life forever. >> jaime boyfriend, chuck cruz, he said right after the murder he took off to town. the only thing i remember was when are you going down? >> so i got some stuff together and drove down as soon as i could. i spent most of the next week with them, morning with the family and thfor her funeral. >> back at college station, detective kenny eliot was working the case. >> any time you have a killer out on the run, it frustrates you on the person that's responsible. >> one suspect is jaime's friend visited her on the night of the
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murder and he refused to give a dna sample. that's kind of odd. >> the detective snapped a sample from the beer mug and when it came back, he was not a match. >> you feel confident that you can rule him out from the dna of not matching. detectives was already looking for other suspects and his attention quickly landed on someone very close to the victim. her boyfriend. the questions that they asked focused on where was i the night before or what i was doing? looking at you as a possible suspect? >> it did not occur to me that was what they were doing. i just thought they were asking for information. >> chuck told the detective that before jaime was killed, he had not seen her for two days. on the night of the murder, he
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said he was at home. >> i was playing computer games like a good nerd >> did you have anyone there to corroborate your alibi? my roommate was there but i was asleep. the boyfriend's alibi was not solid. as they spoke, the deck titectis looking carefully for signs. he was cooperative and apprehensive and he said everything was fine. detective asked for a dna test and he agreed to it too. >> the polygraph failed the test. >> it was a bad sign for you, right? >> yes. he was a strong person of interest. >> what's more was the detective had been speaking with jaime's friend who said the relationship was not fine and couple had a
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fight and were on a verge of break up. all led to more questions. >> i went over every aspect of their relationships and questioned him on his whereabouts and tried to get him confessed. if a failed polygraph was not suspicious enough. listen to what the detective chuck told him next >> he said he had done some bad things and did not tell us why. >> did you look at him in the eye and said did one of the bad things killed jaime hart. >> at that time, i thought he could be. >> the more you start to think he's the killer, how did he react on that? he was nervous. i -- chuck was free to go. the detective developed a theory of the crime that made sense to him >> he's in love with her, and they were having issues in their relationship. >> the boyfriend, a likely
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suspect was in the cross hairs but when the dna results came back, the dna was not a match. >> were you able to rule out chuck cruz then? >> i didn't rule him out completely. >> that was enough for you with the friend who she was with the night before. you ruled him out after you got the dna, correct? >> the other guy was not her boyfriend. he was not in a bad relationship with her. chuck was. >> but, they did not arrest chuck. months went by and the detective kept on investigating him. authorities seized his computer and searched his car. all the while chuck was saying they were looking at the wrong guy. a lot of people won't confess, at that point, he was a strong person of interest but i still did not know so we continue the search. >> the investigation dragged on. the students on campus began to
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go back to normal and parties every weekend. when police were called to the scene of one house party, it was not because of noise or under age drinking another woman was in a fight for her life. coming up, a student at a party ends up as a prisoner in a stranger's apartment. i screamed as loud as i can and he grabbed me and started choking me again. >> when "dateline extra" continues. flase controls 6. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything. ♪
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welcome back to "dateline extra." i am tamron hall. >> detectives are still suspicious of her boyfriend, chuck cruz, even though his dna was not a match. cruz maintained innocent. another attack and another young woman of a desperate fight of her life returning to the face of evil. here is aidrinne campbell. >> chuck was considered a person
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of interest. they said you were acting nervous and acting like you had something to hide. >> they interpret all these things as signs. that was considered to be weird and unusual. >> as for those bad things, he told the detective he had done. he was referring to a petty argument he had with her and the feeling of that he had not been with her the night she died. >> do you remember what you argued about? >> a loaf of bread. >> i told her it was not a big of a deal. we picked our signs and we
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argued about something as stupid as a loaf of bread. >> and now he says he can hardly breathe when police breathing down his neck. >> what is it like to wake up every morning to know that you are under a cloud of suspicious. >> he left college station and moved home to be with his family in dallas. >> the biggest was going through my mind of the whole time that i didn't do it and they don't know who did it and the guy that's doing it is walking around and likely preying around and this monster is walking free while they are wasting their iem time me. >> kelley brown was writing front stories of this headline. >> kelley was hearing talks that
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the police had a suspect. >> but there was no arrest. that is what kept everybody saying was it the boyfriend or was it someone that's still out there. is he going to strike again? it was scary, of course, and student like kristen lane caster followed the investigation. >> it was short lived. people went back to their classes and business. we start rationalizing, maybe she's just the wrong person. >> this does not happen to you. >> exactly. >> then it was late october. >> kristen did not know it yet but she was about to become apart of a chain of events that only deepen the mystery. >> was it a friday? >> a friend invited kristen to a party and she said well, i am having a get together at my house, why don't you come by.
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she drove over to the apartment complex in brian, texas, that's the town next to college station. >> door were opened and she struck up a conversation with her friend, he was 24 and had not been to college. >> he seems to be a great one. >> he had no problem sharing intimate details about his personal life. >> he had been married and some other conversations going into telling that he found god >> and you guys got into a personal conversation for having just met. >> yeah, i was young and i think that was normal and he was drunk. not wrong after the party started, it abruptly ended. kristen's friend got into a fight with her boyfriend. there were alcohol involved and worried that it was going out of
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hand. kristen stuck around and talking to the upstairs neighborhood. >> you were feeling protective. he said to me, are you worried about your friend and i said yes. i am. i said you can go to my apartment and you have a close phone to call. >> she walked up to the staircase into her apartment. he opens the door and i was barely stepping in the door and he just pushes me and slams the door shut and he locks the door and grabs a remote that was right there and turned the stereo into dehigh volume. >> he pushes me back and makes demands. i thought he was joking. >> he was serious, demanded she undressed. i kept on arguing and saying he's not going to doi it.
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>> he grabs me by the choke and he immediately he grabs me and started choking me again. this time, he picks me up and pulls me back into the bedroom into the back. >> you are a prisoner in this apartment now >> he puts me under the mattress and i wonder for a second, it was it. >> i could die. >> he had his hands on my throat. >> kristen could not fight him off so she tried to talk out of her sexually assault. >> he looks at me and said why don't you want to do this and i said well, i have hiv. he's thinking about it for a second. well, and he's thinking about it and said guess what? so do i. >> what about finding god and trying to work on yourself. i was able to stall him for quite sometime. i must have gotten off the bed and we were standing and talking
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and i remember that's when i started to stomp my foot and i was trying to make like i was making a point and he grew an gri aga angry again. his grip on her neck is tighter as he sexually assaulted her. >> he's squeezing so hard z that it felt the bones in my threat were cracking. i said if you keep on doing this, you are going to kill me. >> and he sort of looked at me and there was a half smile and looked at me for a second that do you think i actually cared about that. >> was that when you felt that you were looking at the face of evil. >> i knew that he was intended killing me. >> coming up, a knock on the door. >> this was incredible. >> i could not believe that nobody believed me. >> when "dateline extra" continues.
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19-year-old kristen lane caster was preparing the die. when you are possibly in the last moment of your life when you think that someone is going to kill you, what was going through your mind? i had a moment where i thought i wish i told the people that i love that i loved them. >> she was in a stranger's apartment drifting in and out of consciousness. >> i blacked out but then i start to come to it again. laying in the scene where the movies where the bomb exploded and everything is fuzzy and you cannot hear. everything is coming to this fog. >> suddenly, the man stood up and left the room and ordered her to remain quiet. >> and i screamed as loud as i can, call the police, call the police. turns out the police were at the door. >> my friend had heard me screaming and stopped in and called the police. >> this is like a miracle. >> in the nick of time and
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police showed up. that only happens on tv. >> they ran in and i was curled in a fetus position and shaking uncontrollably and i remembered them asking me what was happening and the words were coming out so fast. >> the cops took the man away in handcuffs and kristen slept on her friend's couch that night. the friend called the police to see what happened next. >> she found out they did not book him for sexually assault charges. kristen's attacker, the man she said almost killed her had been released. >> that was tough to sexual lwa. >> it was terrified, hi thought he's going to kill me. >> the suspect told investigators that he and kristen had a fight over drugs. >> she got angry when she asked
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for cocaine. i think he told them some story so i was crying. >> after the attack, police charged minimal with unlawful restraint and a misdemeanor. >> the next day, kristen and her dad went to the bryant police department to find out why her attacker was not charged for something serious. >> i thought in this moment that this is it, this guy is going down. >> she met with the detectives who asked her questions and a lot of them. bruises all over my throat and i could not swallow. >> at one point the detective asked me to place my hands on my own throat. that traumatized me >> why? >> well, that could have been self in fliflicted >> i was hysterically crying and
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he was saying well, that's not what he says. >> of course, it is not what he says. >> police treated like a he said she says story. >> i was furious. >> she maintained the detective was doing a thorough investigation. >> they interviewed her attacker again and a few months later, did charge him with sexually assault. >> the unlawful restraint was still in place. the case went to a grand jury but they decided not to indict him. they felt there was insufficient evidence. >> that must have been tough to hear that. >> it was very tough to hear that. it was at a point in time where i found that out, i just -- i
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did not feel like i had any recourse. >> she did talk about the case later with reporter, kelley brown. >> it bothered me at the time because i wondered why did the grand jury indict him for -- at least attempted sexually assault. it seemed a little troubling to me that what were we missing and what part of the story did we not have. did the detective say something that made them think, maybe it was consensual. >> he was still facing the charge of unlawful defense. >> in the meantime, he was a freeman. >> he's out waulking around. >> the next time over, detectives at the brazos county office was still working on jaime hart's case. they followed up on hundreds of other leads and tips but no one in that department looked at
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kristen's case for a possible connection. >> you were sexually assaulted and jaime hart was sexually assaulted, did you start to think that these could be connected? >> i did not think it was connected. with jaime, they said there was a boyfriend that may have been at fault and there was a romantic relationship, it was not a random occurrence by a stranger. kristen was living with overwhelming anxiety which manifested in dangerous behavior. >> i became afraid of everything. i just became risk seeking. >> what kind of things would you do? >> i started drinking heavily for a while after that. >> i hop on a back of a stranger's motorcycle and after having three beers. it took a long time to get out of that. >> just as kristen started to turn corner, her attacker did
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his part in court >> she could not. kristen was about to walk right into another crime scene in college station. coming up, even law enforcement felt that -- what did we have in our hands here. a shocking brutal murder and the suspect made a mistake. the clothing of what he was wearing was different of what he told us. when "dateline extra" continues. [announcer] is it a force of nature?
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for all the fact to start lining up. here is andrea canning with more on our story of the face of evil. it was may of 2000s, six months since kristen had been assaulted. her attacker failed to show up in court and failed to disappear. in the next town over, detective ken kenny eliot continued to work on the jaime hart. you took dna from 70 people? like 77. many people booked in jail for violent crimes or anyone that was in the area just did not want to talk. >> we took dna from everybody. he never taken his eyes off the boyfriend, chuck cruz. there was something that was bothering you about chuck cruz.
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>> there is a lot bothered me about chuck cruz. >> the sheriff's office investigated chuck communicating with the da of a grand jury. >> chuck and his lawyer spoke on many occasions and the detective continues to think that chuck's behavior is suspicious and she still seems nervous. >> maybe the reason that chuck cruz was acting this way that you guys were coming down hard on him and he lost his girlfriend. i mean -- is there a way to act? >> i don't know but he had several things going against him and we could not walk away from it. we had to prove that he did it or not. >> chuck said he should have been cleared right away. >> it was no match but they insisted on targeting me as a prime suspect. they were trying to build al case that was not there.
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>> while chuck's life had been on hold for a year. kristen was starting the feel like her old self again. in the six months of her attack, she's taken up run ning and hada new boyfriend. she's hoping for that pain to be behind her for good. it was not. >> there were police tapes everywhere. >> may 28, 2000. kristin arrived to visit friends at an apartment complex. there was no reason to think her case was connected. police cars and ambulances and all kinds of vehicles everywhere. >> and now the site of police tapes and memory rushing back. it was fear. >> firefighters leon moore had arrived at the apartment complex that morning after a neighbor reported smoke in one of the units. the bedroom doors were opened and we can see flames in the carpet. we had a water ex titinguishe e.
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we backed out to make sure that we preserve as much evidence as we could. he sensed foul play. >> it looked like the body had been boxed up onto the bed. she was neighborhood from the waist down. >> it was disturbing. >> it was. >> the victim was 21-year-old carol lynn casey, a daycare worker. >> the parents were so proud of her daughter. >> she was wonderful with kids and all the kids loved her. >> never could they prepare themselves for the dreadful phone call they received. >> is your daughter carolyn casey and i think he said yeah, there is been an accident and your daughter is dead, a fire. >> when carolyn's younger sister, amanda, heard the news,
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she collapsed with grief. >> i just -- i screamed really loud. they got this wrong. >> yeah, something is wrong. >> she did not die. >> i said no. she's not dead. >> what was the turning point? i called her apartment. and she did not answer and detective kept on saying it was homicide. we had a strong feeling that it was some type of sexually assaults occurred and somebody trying to cover up. kelley brown at the newspaper had another to story to write.
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what do we have in our hahnds here. >> on the night of carolyn's murder, there is a small party and detectives were canvassing the complex looking for leads. >> you are knocking on doors. >> in one unit, two men answered and one of them had been to the party and his name was mathews. >> he mentioned that he did attend the party and she was there. >> like many people who attended, matthews was cooperative. >> he said carolyn left the party and went with the female for a convenient store. >> mathew gas gave detective th dna sample. the clothing that he was wearing was different than what he told us. why is he not telling us the
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truth. he claims he simply forgotten and handed detectives the proper clothing. this was not your big moment. >> no. it was not. the big moment did come though. just a few nights later when the pieces of this puzzle finally came together. coming up, an arrest of a familiar suspect, i was certain that he had done this before. >> at the same time i didn't think he will do again. >> when "dateline extra" continues. muscle. muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you. experience ♪ore confidence regardless of the conditions. get great offers at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. get up to $5,000 customer cash on sect 2016 models. ends september 5th.
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welcome back to "dateline extra," as carolyn casey's family grieved their loss, detectives struggled to make sense of the crime scene as they canvassed the area looking for leads, a possible suspect emerged. and it was someone police had met before. could her killer have been
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stopped sooner? here's andrea canning with the final chapter of "the face of evil." >> it was two nights after the murder and fire. detective capps made a discovery, one that would finally connect the dots in this series of crimes that had terrorized this college town. >> i spent that evening basically reading through all these reports. >> the detective ordered background checks on some of the people who attended the party in carolyn's apartment complex, including ynobe matthews. it turns out there were several police reports in the file accusing ynobe of a number of crimes. >> mr. matthews had a tendency to try to sexually assault females, and in the process of that, he would choke them if they were not willing to have sex. >> how did carolyn die? >> her death was ruled a strangulation. so things started matching up.
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ynobe had never been convicted of sexual assault, but in the files, he read the account of one particularly brutal attack. the case ended up being charged as a misdemeanor, unlawful restraint. it was kristen's. ynobe was the man she says almost killed her. >> i was certain that he had done this before. but at the same time, i didn't think he would do it again. >> the detective called ynobe matthews back down to the station for another interview and decided to pull a fast one with his suspect. telling him he was about to get dna results from the crime scene. were you really about to get it that quickly? >> we weren't going to get it that quickly that day. but trying to get him to believe that we had that information, that we had everything that we needed. i had contacted my supervisor earlier. i told him if he could page me, just say -- type in the words that says dna matches. >> and right on cue, the detective's pager went off. >> and i showed it to mr.
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matthews and asked him to read it. it said dna matches. >> so what's his face like when he looks at that match? >> he became pretty emotional. and he said, it was an accident, but he had killed her. >> the detective called carolyn's parents and gave them the news of the confession. >> they said, i think we got him. i said well, how sure? he said, i'll bet the farm on it. >> it was the next morning when kristen lancaster opened up the newspaper and learned her attacker had been charged with murder. >> i felt overwhelming guilt. just overwhelming guilt knowing that he had killed someone, and, you know, perhaps i hadn't tried hard enough to make people believe me. >> did you feel like i life could have been saved if you had been taken more seriously? >> oh, yes. carolyn would still be here. i mean, there's no doubt. >> and what about the woman at the start of our story? jamie hart's case had been handled by the brazos county sheriff's office.
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but after ynobe was arrested, it didn't take long for the college station police department and the sheriff's office to compare the dna. what they found, ynobe was also jamie's killer. what's that moment like? >> i remember the feeling of wanting to feel relieved, but all i could think was, this is exactly what i knew was going to happen. he struck again. another girl is dead. and another family has lost their precious daughter. >> chuck says to this day he misses jamie and has never gotten over being viewed as a suspect. >> having to spend such a long time under investigation for the death of a loved one, it hurts. it hurts a lot. >> it's like a scar. >> very much so. very much so. >> do you feel bad about that at
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all, that he was put through that? >> i'm sorry that he had to go through that, yes. but if i had to do the investigation over, i wouldn't change anything. i'm sorry he lost the love of his life. but we had a job to do, and we had to either arrest him for murder, or clear him. we cleared him. >> but, before jamie, before kristen, before carolyn, there was another victim who soon learned she was also connected to this horrifying series of events. her name is misty johnson. >> if i didn't let him rape me, he would have killed me. >> like kristen, misty reported her attack to the bryan police department. but ynobe denied it, claiming it was consensual, and misty was too traumatized to help police in the investigation. >> probably within a week, i quit my job and left town. i was scared. >> she now regrets that decision. her attack happened first, months before jamie was murdered.
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>> i feel like if i would have stayed and fought him through the police department, that possibly he wouldn't have been able to go on to hurt anyone else. >> and kristen is left with the memory of an assault that, according to the law, never really happened. >> i was so angry that two people had to die in order for someone to believe me. >> did the system fail? >> it failed me. it failed carolyn. it failed jamie. >> do you think about them a lot? they were total strangers to you. >> but they're my alternative future. i mean, they're what could have happened to me. i mean, they're what could have happened to any of us. >> a jury convicted ynobe matthews of carolyn's murder and sentenced him to death. he also pleaded guilty to jamie's murder. kristen faced him in court during the penalty phase. >> it was terrifying. and i had to testify. and i met carolyn's family. and jamie's family.
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they all came out afterwards and gave me a hug. it helped me realize that their families didn't hold any grudge against me. >> it's not her fault that my sister died. and kristen should have no guilt over that. >> with the casey family as witnesses, ynobe matthews was executed three years later. if there is a lesson to take from this story, it is one that comes directly from a survivor herself. someone who has learned the hard way to cherish life's moments, each and every one. >> it makes you realize how fragile your life is, and that anybody can take it in a moment's notice. the story for them, that's it. that's their life's story. the final chapter has been written. but for me, i get to keep going on. >> what would you call yourself? >> i mean, people have called me
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a survivor. i would call myself lucky. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline extra." i'm tamron hall. thank you for watching. somebody like me with my mentality does not belong in society. >> after a horrifying act of violence, the kokomo slayer displays his brutality for all to see. >> most murderers get 60 years. i got sentenced to 72 years. >> two brothers pay a harsh penalty for their dealings in

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