campaign on wednesday. in arizona, donald trump will unveil a detailed speech on illegal immigration after a weekend of more muddled messaging. >> on day one, i'm going to begin swiftly removing criminal illegal immigrants from this country. >> what is his position specifically on the undocumented immigrants? >> well, you're going to find out from donald trump very shortly. >> and on saturday, donald trump will go to a black church in detroit, as he continues his minority outreach and depends off criticism for what some say was an insensitive tweet after the chicago shooting death of the cousin of basketball star, dwyane wade. hillary clinton rolls out a comprehensive plan to address mental illness. a day after one of her high-profile supporters questioned donald trump's mental fitness. >> basically, have a psychopath running for president. he meets the clinical definition. >> and with that, let's bring in two of my fellow road warriors,

hallie jackson and katy tur. and katie, i want to start with you. and a retweet that we just got from donald trump. i'm going read it to you. it says, quote, i know of no one voting for crooked hillary, her rallies are held in blank, and she still has room. he deleted a few words there to clean it up. katy, we have been talking about this campaign reset. you look at a tweet like that, though, and it raises some real questions about this reset. what's your take? >> you know are there's been a lot of talk about which phone is actually the phone that donald trump uses to send out his own tweets. so there's going to be some talk about whether this was a tweet from him or somebody from the campaign. we have been talking a lot about a reset, about donald trump getting serious. ihink the reset that we're seeing, ough, is in very many ways behind the scenes. they're spending $10 million on a new ad buy. that is brand-new for them. they're getting more serious about having donald trump on teleprompters at rallies. but we have to remember, donald

trump is still going to be donald trump. it sounds like a cliche at this point, but it's a cliche, because you can't control him in every single way. when he's going after hillary clinton, they have kind of let him go with whatever his gut says. it's why we heard him the other day, calling hillary clinton a bigot, even though folks like sean spicer of the rnc or ben carson, even, wouldn't come out and use that language themselves. so it's a reset in the sense they're girding -- their candidate behind the scenes, trying to bolster him up, giving him a teleprompter, trying to keep him on message when they can, but ultimately, kristen, this is donald trump. >> sure is. that is absolutely true. hallie, i want to go over to you and talk about this big speech on wednesday we are anticipating. it's going to be on immigration. and it comes after we got a lot of mixed messages over the weekend. i'm going to play you a little bit more and just have you respond. do you actually think donald trump is going to clarify? take a listen. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> i think the whole question of

anchor babies, as it's known, the whole question of citizenship, natural-born americans is a subject for the future. i think the american people ought to ask. we look at our whole gas station system and see whether or not that works and makes sense. >> i'm comfortable with t. i'm comfortable with. with the supreme court rulings on the issue. >> so i think a lot of people still left confused yesterday, hallie, is donald trump going to clarify this on wednesday? what's your take? >> reporter: you know, i think there are a lot of republicans watching and hoping that he will clarify where he stands on not just the did he pore thanks force, but other issues related to immigration as well. look to his past, what he's called policy speeches and what his campaign has built as major policy speeches. there have been some detail in them, but sometimes not to the level that folks want to see. and that's something that even trump's campaign's own senior advisers have acknowledged. sometimes the policy speeches are big-picture, supposed to present ideas and an outline.

and we have been told trump would fill in the blanks and other speeches down the road. so far that hasn't happened when you look at where trump has been on his tax policy speech or other issues he's talked about. what have we seen from donald trump at his rallies, kristen? well, he's talked about immigration generally, but he hasn't drilled down on major questions that his surrogates continue to be asked about, not just sunday shows but cable news and elsewhere throughout the weeks. and that his surrogates seem to have trouble answering to, as well. on, for example, what to do with the estimated 1 1 million undocumented immigrants living here. so i think you're going to see a lot of anticipation for the speech on wednesday. still a lot of question marks about what exactly we will hear from donald trump. >> yeah, i think you're right. especially as we're entering this final stretch of the campaign, republicans saying they want clarity on this issue. katy, we also learned just a few hours ago that the trump campaign is going up with its biggest ad buy yet. of course, donald trump has sort of been trounced in this department by secretary clinton

during the summer months. what are you hearing, how big is this ad buy going to be, how much of a difference could it make? >> this is a huge ad buy for donald trump. he's been very hesitant to put out any sort of money on national ads or battleground state ads. $10 million. that's a lot of money for this campaign to be going up on the air with. they're going to be focused around the economy, trying to show that donald trump is better on the economy than hillary clinton. this one they released this morning about lowering taxes for the middle class, creating jobs. it's a very generalized version of not only donald trump's message, but a republican message. but they do believe it's going to help. they believe it's going to be able to traditionalize this nontraditional candidate in a way that doesn't necessarily change the candidate. that being said, they're already up in ohio, pennsylvania, north carolina and florida. this ad will be up in new hampshire, iowa, nevada, virginia and colorado. virginia and colorado are significant, because those are two places that donald trump is losing pretty badly right now. they're two places that hillary

clinton has gone off the air herself. doesn't feel like she needs to spend any more money on those two states. colorado has been anti trump for quite a while. we remember he lost in that state's convention. it's where the anti trump movement really got its legs, and never trump move. but regardless, the campaign says they are going to be playing there. remember, they say over and over again, this is a 50-state strategy. >> and hallie brings up the issue of messaging, we have been reporting over the weekend about part of donald trump's message right now, calling into question secretary clinton's health and calling on her to release more medical records. the clinton campaign giving no indication that that's going to happen. at's the latest in that back and forth? >> reporter: yeah, the clinton campaign is like, listen, we're not going to update her medical records. they feel donald trump should release a detailed medical record of his own. trump says if clinton releases more, then he will release a more detailed version of his medical information. because here's what we have from donald trump so far.

four paragraphs in a letter released from his physician saying that his health is, quote, astonishingly excellent." if elected, trump would be the healthiest president ever. dr. harold bornstein described how he wrote that letter. he says, in just about five minutes, although he continues to stand by what he wrote originally. i want to play you a little bit of that interview from friday. >> at the end of the day, i came to get the letter. >> so just tell me about the time crunch. like, five -- or you wrote it quickly. >> i thought about it all day, and in the end, i get rushed and i get anxious when i get rushed. so i try to get four or five lines down as fast as possible so they would be happy. >> but it was based on your evaluation. >> it's all true. >> reporter: dr. bornstein there, describing how he felt rushed to write this letter as

apparently a black car from team trump waited outside his park avenue office. again, bornstein reiterates, he believes trump is in excellent health, is fit to be president. but when you look at the level of detail released by each candidate, we do know more about hillary clinton's health, what she has released so far than donald trump's. her legal is specific, although still short when compared to past presidents for nominees on both sides of the aisle. and i've got to know, kristen, trump's tweet in the last 18 hours reflects what a campaign spokesperson told on friday that trump would be willing to released more medical records if clinton released more. we asked, why wait? >> a little bit of a preview of what we might see in the upcoming debates, both candidates also preparing for that. great conversation with my fellow road warriors, hallie jackson and katy tur. thanks for joining us. now i bring in bruce level

for donald trump. thanks for joining me, i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> you heard me talk with hallie about the immigration speech coming up on wednesday. a lot of expectation, particularly after this weekend, a lot of people felt as though the messaging coming from the trump campaign, what we were hearing from mike pens. what are you anticipating? >> well, i represent the national university for trump, a volunteer organization that comprise a lot of different ethnic groups across the country. i can't speak in terms of details or what the campaign is going to come out. i will tell you this. it's not uncommon that a candidate during the process of becoming president, running for president, sometimes, you know, a lot of times, you know, the plans change in terms of where they're going to go and how they're going to be. and, you know, this whole immigration mess has been going on for years. democrats and republicans have

promised american people they'll make a change and they have done nothing. it's not uncommon, kristen, for a can't to alter plans and listen to the people and get a compilation of what's going on. you've got to remember, donald trump has traveled 2-1 more than hillary clinton. and has met with millions of people in terms of his rallies. his rallies, you know, go anywhere from 40 to 50,000 people. and that is a huge audience. >> bruce, and i take your point and it's a fair point. i guess what is significant about this is that we're just over 70 days until election day, and this is his signature issue. so why hasn't he figured out the specifics on this, and i guess as a supporter as one of his surrogates, does he need to get specific on wednesday? >> well, like he said, he'll come out wednesday, it will have more details. you know, like i said, i don't speak for the campaign. however, this is not uncommon. this is something that goes on, you know, historically with a lot of candidates. and one thing i have to tell you about mr. trump, his ability to

listen, his ability to go out and listen to -- especially his faith-based community is very, very passionate with his faith-based community, african-american pastors, hispanic pastors. we have been meeting with a lot of these pastors, you know, since last year. you know, this whole national diversity coalition, mr. trump is the largest diversity coalition in the history of the gop. and it was founded by michael cohen, his executive director. and pastor darrell scott, who is our ceo. and we have started this last year way in the primary, because mr. trump really wanted the policy as it relates to immigration, jobs, national security, which came from our very diverse backgrounds. >> how many times has he met with that group of pastors? obviously, i recall we covered that in the beginning of his campaign. but i don't recall that he has had several meetings? i mean, how many of these meetings have taken place? >> well, there have been lots of meetings, i will tell you. >> with donald trump? >> yes. i just want to make another point, too. pastor darrell scott is known --

mr. trump for many, many years. and this is not something new that mr. trump has had great relationship -- especially with a lot of african-american pastors and hispanic pastors for over many, many, many years. >> all right. i want to talk about this tweet that donald trump put out over the weekend. i know that you are familiar with it, but i'm just going read it one more time for our viewers. this relates to dwyane wade's cousin, shot and killed over the weekend. he tweeted out, dwyane wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in chicago, just what i have been saying. african-americans will vote trump. important to point out that just a short time later, he did then extend his condolences. but when you hear a tweet like that, sort of se self-congratulatory, is that appropriate? is that presidential? >> mr. trump, like i said, has a deep concern. he does know the pulse in terms of what's going on in the inner cities. >> but was that an appropriate tweet? >> i'm sorry? >> was that an appropriate tweet? >> well, i believe it was.

i believe it calls into question of what's going on in the inner cities that has been under democratic rule for many years. and it's like mr. trump has been saying all along, you know, a lot of these -- municipalities and counties and cities have been under democrat rule for as much as 60 years. so the question is, give donald trumadministration a chance to go in and make a change. >> let me, as you know, this was not the first time that there has been a tragedy in donald trump has tweeted and gotten criticized. let me read you what he tweeted out in the wake of the orlando nightclub shooting. he tweeted, appreciate the congrats for being right on radical islamic terrorism. i don't want congrats, i want toughness and vigilance. we must be smart. do you understand, bruce, why he is getting criticized for these responses that some people are arguing it seems tone deaf in the middle of a tragedy? >> well, i can tell you this. i can say he's getting more praises for, you know, wanting to protect all citizens. for example, when he came to atlanta and he spoke at the fox

theatre, the fox theatre, you know, is an inner-part city in atlanta, which has the highest concentration of the lgbt community. i happened to be at that rally, and i met a lot of people that came there that wanted to listen to donald trump that was part of the lgbt community, and they were very happy with the fact that a republican candidate even came out and said, hey, i'm going to protect you. i'm going to protect your right to be who you are as an american citizen, where you don't have to worry about being attacked, because of who you are or where your race is or what your sexual preference is. and i thought that was humongous in terms of a republican candidate and great leadership on donald trump. >> before i let you go, we learned that he is going to be speaking in detroit this coming weekend. why wait so late to make his pitch to african-american voters directly in an african-american community? why uldn't he have gone to an african-american community months ago and made this pitch? and i guess as a followup to that, how can african-americans then take his pitcher is i couldn't sayly?

>> well, look, like i said, i do represent the largest diversity coalition in the history of the gop. and donald trump has had tremendous amount of meetings with a lot -- he does know the pulse. but i will tell you, the september 3rd with the network that he's meeting with is bishop jackson, the largest black-owned christian radio -- excuse me, tv station in the country. and so this is just one of many, many more meetings that -- and events that mr. trump is going to have. >> all right. bruce level, thank you so much for your perspective. we really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. shifting gears now, panic overnight at l.a.x. airport, as travelers began scrambling out of the airport and pouring on to the tarmac after hearing what they thought were gunshots. police say it was a false alarm. nbc's steve patterson is live at l.a.x. for us with all of the details. so what's the latest there, steve, and have folks sort of calmed down? >> reporter: yeah. well, kristen, all is quiet here

at los angeles international airport. i can tell you, though, it was not that way last night. now the central terminal is back open, flights in the air for hours. but last night, l.a.x. was in a full-on panic mode. if we have the video cued up, you have to see it. it's incredible. hundreds of passengers out into the tarmac and on the sidewalk after those false claims of shots fired came down at about 8:45. if you can believe it, this all stems from one incident in one terminal. terminal 8. that's where the reports of shots fired came from. police say it was just because of a loud noise that was heard. that incident spread like wildfire on social media and through word of mouth. and then other terminals were reporting shots fired into three different terminals. and so then security got involved, police got involved, went combing from terminal to terminal, looking for problems. this led to a full-on ground stop, more than 200 flights were

either diverted, delayed or cancelled, affecting international travel. and then, of course, affected passengers who were here at l.a.x. one of them was our own lester holt, who had just flown into this chaotic situation, started doing some reporting on his facebook page. we spoke to him about the ordeal. listen to this. >> reporter: we're about to walk up the stairs when the door opened, people began flooding out. passengers, security people, i heard shots fired, or active shooter, run. people didn't really know what to do. >> i heard shots, and i left my bag and i ran. >> we just saw people start to run. and we started to run also. >> reporter: and, of course, people on edge. this came just two weeks after a similar incident at jfk, false report of shots fired. police saying no shots fired, nobody actually in danger today. so some good news to report to you now. kristen. >> the images just stunning, though. you can feel the panic when you

look at the folks there. steve patterson, thank you so much for that reporting. really appreciate it. another aviation story to tell you about now. two united airlines pilots in a scottland courtroom today, trying to fly back to the u.s. drunk. the pilots arrested saturday morning, accused of showing up from glasgow to newark, too intoxicated to fly. they have been removed from their flying duties. under scottish law, the men could face two years in prison if convicted. coming up, donald trump lands his first pitch to african-american voters in a place where the audience will be mostly african-american. so what does he need to say to make his case. plus, binders versus burgers. we have behind the scenes reporting on the very different ways in which hillary clinton and donald trump are preparing to face off on the general election debate stage. stay with us. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis

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the cousin of nba star, dwyane wade, a great guy, dwyane wade, was the victim of a tragic shooting in chicago. shot. it breaks all of our hearts to see it. it's horrible. it's horrible. and it's only getting worse. this shouldn't happen in our country, this shouldn't happen in america. >> donald trump is under fire this morning accused of trying to capitalize on this weekend's shooting death of a cousin of basketball star, be dwyane wade. and just last hour, trump sent out this tweet, quote, look how bad it's getting. how much more crime, how many more shootings will it take for african-americans and latinos to vote trump? trump equals safe. i am joined now to discuss this

by the assistant professor of public policy at harvard's kennedy school of government and washington bureau chief and columnist, lynn swt. thanks to both of you for being here. i want to read that original tweet that got donald trump into hot water over the weekend. he tweeted out, "dwyane wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in chicago. just what i have been saying, african-americans will vote trump." what was your reaction when you saw that? >> so i think the universal reaction to that was horror. and then a feeling that trump, as usual, is exploiting african-american pain, african-american suffering. for political gains and for his own end. that there was no actual sense of genuine sympathy or even empathy for him to be glee ful in such a horrific incident. >> lynn, in the wake of that, you wrote an article in which you essentially called on trump to do more. i'm going to read what you had to say. you write, quote, don't wait for

the debates, don't wait for the election, don't just talk about murders in chicago in the abstract. if you have proposals on how to prevent another killing, tell us." have you heard from the trump campaign yet? >> no, i haven't. and here's why this is serious. this is beyond whatever you think of hit criticisms of the liberal press for media buy whereas. we're talking about people getting killed in chicago, my city. and if you have a solution, don't wait. this is too important to play around with. one of the things that donald trump has not put out is any idea on how, if you take him at his word, i'll make you safe. he likes to say as he did in des moines, i'll fix it. okay, what is it? and if you want to have outreach to african-american voters, go to the south side of chicago, you can take your jabs at president obama. take your jabs at mayor rahm emanuel. but somewhere in there, give some ideas on your fix.

long-term, short-term. but somewhere in there, he's got to offer something. put something on the table. >> and following up on that, lynn, we were just discussing that over the weekend, ten people were killed, 49 wounded in gun incidents. in your article, you talk about some of the issues that need to be addressed. keeping guns out of the hands of gang members. you also raised the point that, hey, president obama created this task force, they finished their work, they came up with a whole host of solutions. you know, has donald trump read that? what would he take from that? >> well, right. here's what's interesting about having a indiana governor, mike pence, as his running mate. which is why i think chicago is a good place to go, for your agenda, because one of the big sources of guns in chicago are guns purchased in indiana. it's on the border. and how do you -- how do you keep everyone's second amendment

rights intact and solve the problem of cross-state border guns? i know chicago has very strict gun control laws. but when you're talking about just an area the size of a city, even if it's a big one, it doesn't have a meaningful bar to keeping out weapons. so let's have that discussion. >> and lea, let me turn back to you. lynn saying come to chicago. we know that donald trump is actually going to go to detroit this weekend. it's really going to be his first appearance since he started making this strong pitch to african-american voters. how specific does he need to get in terms of how he's going to deal with this crisis, and is there anything he can say to really turn around the fact that he's getting trounced right now among african-americans by hillary clinton? >> so if he's genuinely serious, then he needs to -- completely agree that he needs to have policies and not policies that republicans and democrats or whomever have suggested over the same -- over the course of the last, you know, 20-some odd

years but actually real things that address real issues. the problem with that is that we haven't seen any indication that's what donald trump will do. he said that if given the chance, we could solve this in one week with the chicago police department. and we know that that's not actually the case. we know he has no interest and that he has done no actual outreach to antiviolence activists, to people on the ground. in fact, like in many of them, to suspicious organizations or terrorist organizations. so, you know, really what we would have to see is an actual engagement with black life instead of a performance of an engagement with black life. >> all right. great conversation. i know there are going to be a lot of eyes and ears on that visit this coming weekend, leah wright and lynn sweet, thank you so much for your insights this morning. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. and coming up, details on hillary clinton's major fund-raising haul in the hamptons with a little help from her celebrity supporters. plus, jacob soboroff joins

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there's only one invokana®. ask your dtor about it by name. it was a big weekend in the hamptons for the clinton campaign as the campaign makes its final push for cash. msnbc's kasie hunt covers the clinton campaign with me and joins me now. hey, kasie, good to see you. >> hey, kristen, great to see you. >> so let's start off with this big fund-raising weekend, just how much are we talking about? how much did she raise? >> just over this weekend, we have $11.5 million raised. that, of course, adding to the totalses she had raked in, fund raising out westerlier this month, going into august, she had a $20 million advantage over donald trump. so they want to make sure they maintain that, and this is the last chance she'll have to have a good chunk of time to do this. >> that is absolutely right. next week we're all going to be

very busy. we do know she is making a little bit of news today. just releasing her mental health policy agenda. what is she promising, kasie? >> this is something, kristen, you remember was part of the health care fight. one of the things that top -- integrating physical and mental health care systems. mental health often left out of the broader health care system or off insurance plans, for example. this is something that a lot of democrats have worked on for quite some time. she also wants to promote early diagnosis and intervention and enforce mental health parity. as you can see there, to the extent of the law. she is also going to be participating in a conference call later today to talk about this. it's her one out in public activity, aside from a series of yet more fund-raisers in the hamptons, kristen. >> more fund-raisers, coming up. thanks, kasie. >> thanks, kristen. the state of iowa could play a major role in the presidential election with trump and clinton tied at 40% in a recent cbs news

poll. and the number one concern for voters there, you guessed it, it's jobs. a concern that trump campaign highlighted in a new ad that will begin airing in iowa next week. check it out. >> in hillary clinton's america, the middle class gets crushed. spending goes up. taxes go up. hundreds of thousands of jobs disappear. it's more of the same, but worse. >> msnbc's jacob soboroff joins us with the latest installment of his up for grabs series from black hawk county, iowa. jacob, i love these conversations you've been having with voters because they're sharply divided, have a lot of different opinions, but everyone is so civil and i think that's so welcome in this political environment right now. >> reporter: well, you haven't looked at my twitter feed, in that case, kristen. but in black hawk county, people are civil. and, in fact, voters truly up for grabs because during the iowa caucus back in february, ted cruz won this part of the

state. john deere is headquartered in black hawk county and like many other companies in iowa, manufacturing jobs have been disappearing, going away. 1,000 workers over the last couple years have been laid off from john tier. i wanted to talk to voters in this area who they think will be the best presidential candidate to bring the jobs back. and this is what they told me. >> these two buildings are a part of the original part of john deere manufacturing. >> reporter: and today -- >> they're over here in the new facilities over here. and we're down to maybe 3,000 employees. >> reporter: robby hataway was a factory work at john deere until he became one of many on the assembly line who were let go. >> i did get laid off in april of last year. >> reporter: and they just found out 100 people losing their jobs days away. >> right. >> reporter: he said they get laid off during the ups and downs of the market. they added workers between 2010 and 2013, but since then, shed 1,000 jobs.

hanson's deary farm has been operated by the same family for 150 years. blair hanson is the sixth generation to tend to the fields. how old is this frac tore? >> early '80s. >> reporter: john deere? >> yeah. >> reporter: i've heard they have been laying people off. >> yeah, corn prices are low. farmers can't afford to buy new tractors. then the plants slow down and they have to lay people off. >> reporter: when it comes to the candidates between clinton and trump, do you have a feeling one way or another as to who can bring jobs? >> i would say that trump has the better chance. he's a businessman. so he's going to look out for business people. >> reporter: in this county, where bernie sanders and ted cruz won the iowa caucus, who can bring the deere jobs back is up for debate, even within the hanson family. i'll go around. he or she. >> i'm going to say he. >> got to be he. >> reporter: jordan? >> she.

>> i don't want either one of them. i would have to go green. i still say she. >> reporter: hillary clinton. >> yes. >> i know what blair thinks. >> ross perot. >> reporter: like their fellow iowans, until the political harvest of the november election. >> reporter: kristen, i want to say that robby hataway, the gentleman from john deere himself is a hillary clinton supporter. those workers part of the united auto workers organization that has endorsed the clinton campaign. a lot of conversation even within that group if donald trump is the right man to bring those jobs back. >> really fascinating stuff. all right, msnbc's jacob soboroff, thank you so much for that reporting. and jacob will be in iowa again tomorrow, and wants to pay you a visit. so if you live in a swing state, invite him over using the hash tag up for grabs. coming up, what the tropical weather headed for florida could mean for you and the state's battle to keep the zika virus from spreading.

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it's all about eyelove, my friends. a new storm system threatening florida could make the fight against zika that much more difficult. nbc's kerry sanders on miami beach following this story for us. kerry, how is the miami preparing to combat the possibility of flooding now? >> reporter: well, the flooding, of course, is the problem. because you have the rain, although right now we have a beautiful day. we have had some rain come through, and the rain leads to this. puddles. you can see this, and this is where mosquitoes breed. the city of miami put out a psa, explaining about the relationship. let's take a look. ♪ keep mosquitoes outside by shedding doors and covering windows with screens. use insect repellant any time you're outside. cover your skin with long sleeves and plants. mosquitoes lay their eggs in

water so drain, reflesh and put away outside items not being used. a message from the florida department of health. >> reporter: and so there you see it. they say do it at least weekly. right now with the rain we have had, especially over the weekend and predicted for the rest of the week, it's probably going to almost be hourly people need to get out and overturn where there might be standing water to prevent the mosquitoes from breeding. >> and kerry, you have been reporting on this story for a while now. i wonder if you can set the scene right now. how much concern is there about zika, or ishere t a sense the community is starting to understand how to protect itself? >> reporter: well, i think people recognize about the protection, because mosquitoes in general are a problem in florida. those who are pregnant or are plan to ning to get pregnant, i almost this shy of panic level, people really freaked out. those who are not planning, however, seem to have a little bit more welcoming lackadaisical

attitude. the real concern, authorities discovering as this goes along, it may not just just the unborn children. one person got a sort of paralysis that passed away in puerto rico. so there's a general concern that as more medical evidence reveals itself, kristen, that there may be other problems associated with zika that we're all yet to discover. >> all right. kerry sanders, thanks for tracking the developments from miami beach. really appreciate it. primary pa laos looza, what you need to know about tomorrow's house and senate races, including arizona, where john mccain's opponent, kelly ward, is not backing down from her accusations that mccain is too old to serve. that's next. >> his birthday will be on monday. he will turn 80 years old. and i want to give him the best gift ever, the gift of retirement. he definitely deserves it. >> that's actually not precisely what you said. you suggested that he was not going to serve the remainder of

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until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alhol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. now i have less diabetic nerve pain. ask your doctor about lyrica. primary voters will be heading to the polls in arizona and florida tomorrow, where john mccain and marco rubio are expected to fend off their primary challengers. but in an unusual campaign season, these races have proven tougher than expected for the two incumbents. joining me now is nbc senior editor, mark murray. first of all, thank you for being here. appreciate it. >> good morning, kristen. >> first of all, let's talk about the anti establishment fervor. is it making these races tighter than they would otherwise be? >> so far, we really haven't seen the anti establishment translate to too many down ballot races. four incumbents lose so far. not a huge number but also not a smaller insignificant number, as

well. i look when john mccain's primary challenge right now, he's in a tough situation, because of his state of arizona. arizona does embody so much of trumpism and immigration politics. and as people have described, john mccain is a little bit of an ideological no man's land, because he pulls back in the primary season. and he's just doing everything he can to be able to survive this contest. >> and then you have his challenger, kelly ward, coming out, questioning his age. a lot of people criticized her for that. she's trailing in the polls. does it help or hurt? does it back fire? >> so directly, too. it wasn't very subtle, what she did on john mccain, saying, hey, happy birthday, you're going to be 80 years old. but his campaign is kind of back, saying those were desperation politics, saying she is behind. some of the public polling seems that john mccain has this in the bag. but privately, and you go down and get knowledge of what's going on. this is going to be a much

closer race than the paul ryan primary we saw. of. >> let's talk about the democrats now, debbie wasserman schultz facing a fierce challenge from canova. where does the race stand and it goes back to this anti establishment and debbie wasserman schultz dealing with tough headlines. >> yes, she had to step down right before the democratic convention. but she has about a ten-point lead and the one big hurdle for tim canova, her primary challenger, this is not bernie sanders' country. of hillary clinton ended up winning by 68-31% margin. and so it it's not vermont, not a liberal oasis. this is south florida, debbie wasserman schultz, she gets criticized a lot, but one thing she doesn't get criticized for is her health. and those things probably keep her to lead her to victory. we'll see tomorrow. >> we have been talking so much

about the donald trump factor on these down ballot races. and we have been talking a lot about the senate, the chances that democrats could maybe take back the senate. but there's fresh concern, fresh urgency, about the house. talk a little bit about that. how concerned are republicans? >> i think republicans kind of look at the polling, and i think are taking all of this, you know, in not being, you know, well, boy, we have the house in the bag, let's don't worry about that. i'm not hearing that from any republican at all. but as you mentioned, the presidential race, the polling seems like democrats from the driver's seat. the battle for the senate right now, democrats in a very strong position, taking back the senate if hillary clinton wins the presidency and in the house, i don't think anyone is thinking that it's going to flip. but there is certainly where democrats are going to make gains. and then if the bottom falls out over the next two-and-a-half months, that is the potential dangerous zone for republicans. >> all right. mark murray, i know you will be tracking it all very closely tomorrow. >> thanks, kristen. >> good to see you. and coming up, ready to rumble inside the clinton and

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we are less than a month away from the first scheduled debate, but what's going on behind the scenes? the "washington post" is calling it clinton's careful case versus trump's wrestle mania. joining us, national correspondent for "the washington post", phillip rucker. thanks for being here. >> glad to be here. >> just break it down. we know that donald trump is preparing in a very unconventional way, no surprise there. hillary clinton, i am told, is approaching this exactly as you would expect, like a lawyer, going through all of her different policy briefings. so what are you hearing about how both of these candidates are prepping to face off? >> well, you're exactly right. hillary clinton, who is a lawyer, has thick briefing books. she has a lot of material that she's going over, policy issues, making sure she knows all the

details of her opponent's background and positions and she has a team of advisers. these are really the best debate professionals in the democratic party. they're meeting regularly, they're going to be doing mock debates, which is rehearsals. trump is very different. he's been gathering his team in new jersey on sundays for very casual chats. he got mayor rudy guiliani, talk radio host, laura ingram, roger ailes, ousted chairman of fox news, going over some lines, talking about issues, but not scripting anything. he's been very insistent, he doesn't need to do any mock debates. >> yeah, and i think a lot of people found that final point striking, that he's not doing any mock debates. it will be interesting to see if he does, ahead of actually facing off against hillary clinton. i want to read you a little bit from your article. you write that donald trump uses a band of informal counselors, and that the role of each of them is playing a critical part

in his preparation. so talk a little bit more about those folks who you just described. how are they helping him to get ready? what role are they each playing? >> well, there's not a formal role. it's not like the debate rehearsal. they're just talking out loud with him about policy issues, about framing his arguments, about hillary clinton's vulnerabilities. i think it's important to note that some of these figures who are counseling him on the debates have been some of the most vehement critics of clinton over the years. they have been investigating her and her husband's scandals for decades now. they have made careers out of it, and they're feeding donald trump with a lot of information, a lot of lines, a lot of scandals. and also laura ingram, the talk radio host, there is talk among some trump associates, she might play hillary clinton if trump were to submit to doing mock rehearsal debates. he's not said he would could that yet. but if he does decide to do that, look for laura ingram to play hillary. >> one of the things that makes

this campaign so unique, this is the first time a woman will be on a general election stage for a presidential debate. so how could that factor in, obviously? donald trump struggled a little bit when he was debating carly fiorina and some of his lines back fired. >> that was probably one of the worst moments for donald trump when he tangled with carly fiorina over comments about her physical appearance, her face. it's tricky when he's debating a woman. we talked to some debate experts who said, look, he has to be aggressive, but he can't cross that line and what we see over and over again at these rallies is donald trump does indeed cross that line. we'll see how that goes. >> all right. phillip rucker, fantastic conversation and reporting, as always. really appreciate it. >> thank you. and we will be right back afr icbreak.

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