to ensure those that overstay their visas, quickly removed. and shattered chicago, a mother walking with 3-week-old baby gunned down in the street. the victim's mother with four surviving children overcome. >> all this senseless killing the stop. what is it doing to us? it's just destroying us day by day. and good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington following breaking new. huma abedin, hillary clinton's long-time close aide, has announced that, quote, after long and painful consideration and work on my marriage, i have made the decision to separate from my husband. anthony and i remain devoted to doing doing what is best for our son who is the light of our life. during this time i ask for

respect and for people to respect our privacy, this, of course, reporting a report in "the washington post" that he sent more explicit images over the internet. criteria sten welker, katy tur and hallie jackson. kristen, first to you. we have been in touch with people close to huma abedin, close to the clintons. we can't overemphasize how important huma is to hillary clinton. how crucial her role is in this campaign, in the state department before that. having started as an intern in the east wing of the white house when hillary clinton was first lady. >> one point hillary clinton referred to her as her second daughter. that's how close she is to huma abedin. first, to some of the reporting this i'm just getting, andrea, i spoke with a friend of huma abedin and want it is protect her privacy andomething he asked for and says she was out on long island, has been there

since saturday along with other clinton aides and been there with her son jordan, other family members, as well. i'm told this is something she does every year about the time that secretary clinton goes out there to engage in fund raising or vacation. and that the timing is coincidental. that this was not planned. that she just happened to be out there when this story broke. but you can hear the sadness in the choice of clinton world. obviously, as you point out, this is someone who's very close to secretary clinton. considered a body woman back in 2008. one of her top advisers now. you have been out on the campaign trail, andrea. every single day you're out on the campaign trail, she is right by secretary clinton's side. helping her to make some of the most important decisions and so this is something that's clearly going to be difficult for not only huma abedin but for secretary clinton and all of her closest aides. >> covering the state department, she was with us with hillary clinton every step of those 112 countries and, you

know, million-plus miles. going to katy tur now and hallie in new york, katy you were a reporter to abc i think when this whole story first broke, the first it ration of this. there was the congressman weiner, the sexting scandal, high profile in new york. the denials and then the acknowledgment. of course, then the attempted comeback to run for mayor. they even doing a documentary. a reality tv if you will day in the life of. and then another scandal and now this would be the third if this is established that this actually happened, katy. it's very hard to separate the political from the personal here. >> reporter: absolutely. and he was someone who was a rising star in the new york political world before any of these scandals took place. as we know he took a hit afterwards, had to go dark for a

little while. the mayoral run was supposed to be his comeback and he was doing realtively well in that race. and then the second scandal hit and that just took him out of his -- out of the race completely. and that was supposed to be the one that he, you know, lernled from, recovered from, moved past and he was starting to get back into the political spotlight a little bit more recently, weighing in on twitter here and there, and going on some talk shows to give his commentary for what has been a, you know, a wild political cycle. for this to happen again, it's just a tough situation for the family. obviously. and it has only exposed what's been a tough situation for anthony weiner, as well. >> let me add he has according to "the washington post" acknowledged that he and the woman involved this new incident, quote, have been friends for some time.

she has asked me not to comment except to say that our conversations were private, often included pictures of her nieces and nephews and my son and always appropriate, he said in his quotation, at least in "the new york times." excuse me, "the new york post." and hallie jackson, donald trump has certainly had his own share of, you know, issues in the last week on immigration, an issue of substance. but in the past, he has raised this issue so this is certainly ripe for the opposition as they go forward in this campaign. >> reporter: he has. you know, it's interesting. andrea, donald trump tweeted about anthony weiner in the past, negative things and members of trump's family. you have seen him in these online -- i don't want to call them flame wars but trump is not shy about chiming in online about the former congressman. what folks i think have been wondering today is will donald trump talk about this, also? is this off limits or not to

trump as he's installed this new campaign team that's -- and has been looking to get him sort of back on the straight and narrow at least a bit. what we have seen is donald trump even in these past of weeks getting online and twitter saying what he wants to say even if it doesn't fit the narrative the team wants him to push. will trump tweet about this? if he does, what kind of an impact will it have. the sense already i think you are hearing from some in gop circles is that it's not going to have necessarily much of an impact for trump's campaign but it is something to take the focus at least right now off of donald trump. >> indeed it is. and just to show you a little bit of this is a documentary that the family agreed to. it was being shot by a former staff member they explained later. and a lot of people wondering and clinton world, as well, why they agreed to this kind of intimate documentary portrayal of their marriage, even after all of the controversy. let's watch.

>> punch line is true about me. dy the dumb thing. i did a lot of good things, too. running for mayor is the straightest line to clean up the mess i had made. >> this is anthony weiner calling. i'm the one running for mayor. >> why do you think you deserve a second chance? >> a second chance, a third chance. but now, huma abedin making the decision to cut the cord, at least after struggling to hold this marriage together. i think when we -- for people who don't know huma abedin, she comes a very traditional family, a family very devoted to marriage and family. trying to hold this together, but certainly people in clinton's inner and outer circles, people who knew all of the players involved, wondering, you know, you can say opposites attract but they're so different. anthony weiner, the public very brooklyn kind of guy, not just religious dissimilar, you know, backgrounds, but the fact that

she came from a very traditional pakistani and then saudi raised muslim background and traditional family and here there was this interfaith marriage, very much part of the clinton world. >> and you did see her really stand by him and i think you asked the question about this documentary. why did they agree to it? it was supposed to be his comeback story. you see that in the beginning of this documentary. there is hope, there is optimism. and i think she certainly shared that particularly in the beginning of when he was launching his mayoral bid. he was up in the polls. but then it sort of all fell apart and there's a moment in the documentary she looks into the camera saying this is like living a nightmare. i think you see them start to really struggle with the reality of what's going on and ticipate that the struggle is one she's been dealing with not only the first scandal broke in 2011, andrea, but particularly after this second time. that was so painful for her. now, of course, she has been out

on the campaign trail and you see that same dedication to hillary clinton. she is, again, by her side always. but as you point out, this is something that could again become fodder for secretary clinton's challenger and that's part of what makes this so difficult and painful as well, i think. thanks to you, kirsten welker and katy tur and hallie jackson in new york. meanwhile donald trump's top surrogates struggling to keep up with the mixed message on immigration and still insisting that donald trump is sticking to his script. >> he's been completely consistent in the principles that he's articulated. nobody was talking about illegal immigration when donald trump entered this campaign. he was attacked from day one. >> so what he has said is very consistent, chris. number one, this is important. the signature piece of the legislation and campaign is build the wall. no amnesty. no citizenship. no more sanctuary cities.

>> this is a guy consistent on no amnesty, no legalization for folks coming to the country illegally. that's always been the underpinning of his policy with the building of the wall. >> joining me now is conservative columnist ann coulter out with a new book, "in trump we trust." congratulations on your new book. >> thank you. >> first of all, we wanted to talk to you about immigration and your take on where he is going with that. obviously, news that has just broken about huma abedin. i don't know if you have a comment. >> no. i'm surprised it took so long. >> it's hard to figure out what happens in anyone's personal lives but it obviously has a political impact which is why we're talking about it today. on immigration, are you satisfied now from the latest signals that donald trump when he has the speech on wednesday is going to come out as clearly as you would like him to come out on the whole question of

deportation and what to do about people who are here -- he said he was -- that he's clear about what he's going to do about criminal undocumented workers. but in one definition, anybody who's here illegally has broken the law. so are we talking about deporting 11 million, 12 million people as he promised to do in the primaries? >> no. i think he has been consistent. really pretty much from day one. he's going to protect the borders and not dissolve, you know, american sovereignty. i think he actually -- the only thing -- he was totally consistent this week in all of his speeches. there was the one interview on " "hannity" and we get sick of all legislators hearing. i think he did it for me. when i have a criticism for him, the mainstream media remembers i exist. this is constructive criticism,

which is, it is only in the case of immigration -- i mean, the famous cliche, a cliche and true. hard cases make bad lawn. we always instantly -- not we but rubio, mcconnell, the rnc, the democratic party instantly to the hardest cases. as if we're discussing speeding laws and first let's figure out what -- let's rearrange the solar system to deal with a man rushing his wife to the hospital. well know. the basic principle is build the wall. no one here illegally, staying here, working illegally has a constitutional right to be here and we'll decide who gets to stay and who goes on the basis of when's good for america. i mean, the one thing, he's new to politics in some ways, on details, and often rhetorical issues, but the one thing that's his life shot through with is putting americans' interests first. >> how do you decide who stays and goes when you have millions and millions of people?

there are millions of people, arguably been here 20 years with families an meet the definition he laid out in the interview down in austin last week who are solid citizens? do they all get to stay? you know, where do you draw the line? >> you're doing exactly what people like me always complain about. and that is focusing on, you know, these specific cases. look. for even the most law abiding illegal alien as i described in my book "in trump we trust" and covered much more in my last book and even for the most law abiding illegal immigrant, say an illegal immigrant that doesn't need language classes for his or her child, that one child will cost the taxpayers a minimum of $12,000 a year to educate. what taxes do illegal aliens pay? they pay sales tax. well, in the highest sales district in the entire country, you would have to have an

illegal alien purchasing taxable goods in the amount of about $125,000 a year just to break even on what it costs americans for that. what paying back taxes means, this is alleged to mean, means we give each a huge earned income tax credit. we give illegal alien about $30,000, depending how long they've been working here in taxpayer money which, you know, okay, maybe americans are going to want to do that. but i think we ought to be honest about it and we ought to check with the american people whose taxes are being used to pay for illegal aliens to stay here rather than to fund their social security, medicaid and their medicare. but the point i think trump is making from the beginning is consistent with all of this. he fell into the cliches of the amnesty crowd of rubio and that's to put americans' interests first. when's best for america?

we have been through a tough time now. we had 9/11, two wars, we have had a disastrous economy outside of new york, l.a. and washington, d.c., outside of wall street getting bailouts. people are really suffering in america and i think america needs a little now time. this is a very appealing message that transcends political parties. >> now, after that austin speech, town hall meeting, this is rush limbaugh, not mainstream media i don't think, rush limbaugh's reaction. i think you have probably seen this. let's play it for the audience. >> first they tried marco rubio. they tried the gang of eight. they tried jeb bush. they tried any number of people. to convince -- they tried me. they sent emissaries to the southern command. they tried everybody they could think of to try to convince the republican base to support some form of amnesty. for illegal immigrants.

who knew that it would be donald trump to come out and convert the gop base? to supporting amnesty. on the same week ann coulter's book comes out. poor ann. >> so wanted to give you a chance to react to that. his point is that this is, quote, amnesty. the same policy that jeb bush and marco rubio and others had supported and had been in the bill that was voted down. >> yeah. this is a take off from my joke on "hardball" the night before saying the shortest book tour ever. if trump were coming out for amnesty, we call in the business a joke. that's a repetition of the joke. the next day. but no. i don't think he is coming out for amnesty. he did the same thing, the perfect analogy is to when trump was on with chris matthews and he was pushing him on, well, if

you're against abortion, then there has to be a punishment. when's the punishment going to be? what's the punishment going to be? he's getting used to this stuff. he said, yes, some punishment. you don't have to get into the details of what the policies are. you give us the direction you're going in. we want to know are we not going to be doing, for example, what the obama administration is doing now, and that is fighting to release and not deport illegal aliens who have just committed homicide like this illegal alien in omaha, nebraska, who murdered 4.0 gpa student sarah root. that's what we faced with right now. we have -- our administration flying in nonrefugees of central america, somehow syria has become our problem. if latin america is america's problem, why isn't europe taking care of syria? how did the entire world become our problem? i don't see, you know, england

and germany reaching out to take refugees from central america. we have turned our country into a charity ward when i think it's time to put americans first. that is clearly donald trump's principle. he fell for the nonsense of about -- he was pushed in a question, pushed, pushed, pushed. when about the hard case? let's spend all of our time talking about the hard case and never develop a speeding law. one case of the man rushing his wife to the hospital and 80 mirp miles per hour in a 60 zone. we'll burn that bridge when we get there as i like to say. >> ann coulter "in trump we trust," thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you for being with us. back to hallie jackson at trump tower. i believe you have a new statement from the trump campaign. >> reporter: let's be clear. this is from donald trump, andrea, delivered to "the new york times" regarding what you started your show talking about, the news of a separation between top clinton aide huma abedin and

her husband anthony weiner. here's trump telling "the times." huma is making a very wise decision. i though anthony weiner well and she will be far better off without him. trump continuing, i only worry for the country and that hillary clinton was careless and negligent in allowing him to have such close proximity to highly classified information. who knows what he learned and what he told? it's another example of hillary clinton's bad judgment. it is possible the country and the security have been greatly compromised by this. again, those are donald trump's words to "the new york times" as he begins essentially talking about huma abedin and then, andrea, quickly turning to try to link him to national security in this statement. nbc news asked for independent con if i mags and not received it from the campaign and following up. >> thank you so much, hallie jackson, for the update on the breaking story. next, jennifer granholm co-chair of hillary clinton's transition team responding.

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back to the breaking news today involving the clinton campaign, top aide huma abedin announcing her separation of former congressman anthony weiner. supporter and former michigan governor jennifer granholm joins me now, vice chair of the transition committee. both campaigns have. >> right. >> protocol, they're both nominees and the final 70-plus days of this campaign. >> regardless of which team you are on, it's a big i don't know to transfer power. >> let's talk about when's more than a small distraction here. >> yeah. >> as we are four weeks out of the debate, the trump, donald trump telling "the new york times" now that this is probably, you know, a good

thing, this separation, but then suggesting that anthony weiner may have had access to classified information through his wife. >> that is ridiculous. that is ridiculous. i mean, i think that donald trump and everyone else should respect the privacy of huma abedin who is, as you know, an utterly graceful, wonderful human being who's going through a terrible situation. and who's tried to keep her marriage together. so i say let us respect their privacy and it's nonsense about classified information. >> how do you explain this, if this is established what we know is that "the new york post" printed photos indicated that there was inappropriate behavior here. we don't know this ourselves. all signs point to it and following by this announcement that huma abedin after all of these years of trying to hold things together is first broke in 2011 and there was denial and he was still in congress, he eventually resigned, he tried the comeback running for mayor.

people outside questioned and people close to the clintons questioned why put yourself out there running for mayor in, you know, the media capital of the world. and then, of course, another instance and then -- >> are you asking me to explain and get into his head? i have no idea. i have no idea. >> there's a political fallout from this. >> i'm certain he has -- his own fallout, i can't imagine that this brushes on to the clinton campaign. it is a private matter. it should remain a private matter and donald trump should focus on his debate prep. >> at the same time, huma abedin, the closest adviser and the person with her every single day. >> yeah. >> and this has to be a tremendous struggle and distraction for the campaign. >> oh, i have no doubt that it is a horrible -- i mean, huma is like family, not just to hillary clinton but to that whole campaign. she is like the glue. i'm sure that the whole campaign is hoping that people respect

her privacy and grieve with her over what's happening. they're all very supportive of her. >> now, you were involved in debate prep in '08. i believe you played -- >> sarah palin! >> sarah palin for joe biden. let me show you a clip of the real debate and how do you prepare anyone to, you know, how do you prepare them to anticipate what is unconventional candidate. pailen is best analog for donald trump on the other side. let's watch how the other debate started. >> we welcome governor pailen and senator biden. >> nice to meet you. can i call you joe? thanks. >> can i call you joe? you couldn't have anticipated this. >> i did not anticipate that. but, you know, you have to be become the person. you have to embody that character. and she was an outsider.

she, obviously, didn't know the ways of washington. joe biden knows the ways of washington, knew what was very steeped in policy. she was not. so there's -- there are interesting analogies here. >> david plouffe said yesterday you have to prepare for donald trumps. the donald trump who, you know, ridicule ed marco rubio and jeb bush in debates and called them names and is it the donald trump more appropriate and which one shows up or both? >> i think both will and it's interesting for them to use a couple different play to play donald trump because i think that he could be at any given moment one or the other. but she is so great at preparing and anticipating and the team is really great. my guess is, i don't have inside information on this, all being very closely held, my guess is that they're going to try out different versions on -- of donald trump on her and she will be preparing. >> jennifer granholm, governor, thank you very much.

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>> donald trump in the primaries, the brash reality tv star persona, insulting, attacking the rivals in the debate season. with the first general election debate four weeks away, which donald trump will show up to challenge hillary clinton? joining me now lawyer and political analyst ben ginsburg, a presidential debate adviser. i don't know if you can put on a different hat, but which donald trump do you think will be showing up? how does hillary clinton prepare for that? does she have different stand-ins, different people playing different donald trump persona? >> yes, probably. there's going to be some preparation for asymmetrical warfare. they're talking different way about immigration, different way about communities of color and outreach. so that you can see that there is something of a moderating tone that is coming in to donald

trump, probably poll driven. thanks to kellyanne conway's presence. but how that comes out on the debate stage will probably enhance the ratings for all of you. >> well, here you had ann coulter just within this hour talking about donald trump as a policy novice. i want to play a little bit of that for you and ask you how does that work on a debate stage. let's watch. >> trump isn't a politician. he's getting used to some of this stuff. he said, yes, there will be some punishme punishment. you don't have to get into the details of the policies. you give us the direction you're going in. >> if you're out there for 90 minutes, we don't know yet whether there's a break, where he can go and talk to ivanka or whoever else is advising him, he has to be able to call audibles. >> yeah. you do have to be able to call audibles and it is important to remember how different the

format that the presidential debate commission at least now envisions. it's not one minute answers. in fact, there's six 15-minute pods on single subjects that are designed to get into some depth on policy issues. and so, if you're preparing a candidate for that sort of a format, it's very different from what the primary debates were like, especially because it's a one on one debate and not multiple candidates on the stage. >> and you don't have the audience participation. at least, not supposed to be cheerleading one way or the other. one risk because of gender, frankly, let's watch what happened in 2000 when rick lazio against hillary clinton for the u.s. senate seat in buffalo with our own tim russert moderating, well, made a critical error. >> well, i would be happy to. when you give me the signed letters. >> right here sign it right now. >> we'll shake on this, rick. >> no. i want your signature.

i think everybody wants to see you signing something you said you're for. i'm for it. i haven't done it. you've been violating it. do something for america. america is looking at new york, why don't you show some leadership? it goes to trust and character. >> the reaction among women voters in new york, i remember from the time from focus groups was, that was like my ex-husband coming and asking me why i haven't paid such and such a bill. didn't go over well, let's just put it that way. >> no. there's a performance art to these debates as well as a substance debate. that very same year, al gore getting into george w. bush's personal space in the town hall in st. louis was an example of two males even sort of creating a mistake by not getting the performance art right. mitt romney and barack obama in their interchanges on the town hall debate were not as smooth as i think the people who were helping either candidate wanted them to be. so in addition to an increased

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now, what happens going forward with this campaign? chrrisihririsihris siz la joini. sorry. this is a lot of breaking news today. here we go with who's in charge of campaign of the donald trump campaign. chris, what is your take away from the way the new campaign has taken over and tried to shape up this immigration speech which is coming on wednesday? >> well, there's -- i feel like it's like trump and bizarre-o trump. right? there's the new trump, a kellyanne con way creation. talking to the communities and soothe the nerves of the idea that he's a racist of suburban voters, particularly white female voters and also sort of trump original recipe and sort of on twitter saying that hillary isn't as smart as people say she is. she didn't pass the bar.

his comments, his initial comments about the death of the woman related to dwyane wade. the nba star. so it's very hard to get an accurate reading on it because it changes moment to moment sort of, you know, there's the online presence, the offline presence. there's a lot of different donald trump's throughout right now. >> and donald trump has tweeted again today trying to take advantage of what happened in chicago, the tragedy in chicago, and his tweet is that inner city crime is reaching record levels. african-americans will vote for trump because they know i will stop the slaughter going on. does this resonate? >> the african-american voters i have talked to are -- this does not resonate with them. they see donald trump using some of the -- really stereotypical language to talk about african-american lack wage and used dwyane wade's cousin and spelled his name wrong and then corrected it and some people

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71 days to go until the election. both campaigns planning a potential transition to the white house. the favorite washington parlor game in full swing. cabinet sweepstakes, white house

correspondent for "the new york times" has the cheat sheet with this article, clinton and trump campaigns are buzzing about the race for the cabinet and author of "alter egos." mark, you have been through this before. you have watched it before. i remember back in '92 watching hillary clinton play a big role in the five or six people sitting around a kitchen table in the governor's mansion on who would be in the new first clinton administration. if you will. if there is going to be a second one. so both campaigns meeting with dennis mcdonagh last thursday. chris christie on one hand. ken salazar for the democrats. this is what is contemplated in an orderly transition of power no matter who wins. >> that is right. when's different this year, andr andrea, for reasons, there's a law to formalize the process and starts it earlier than it used to start. used to be that the day after the election in a frantic sort of chase to try do get as much

done before inauguration day. by all accounts it never works that well and this new law to make it a thoughtful, longer process and also on the democratic side, because hillary clinton has had such a persistent lead in the polls, i think that there's just by human nature a little more measuring of the drapes going on than there might be if it's a close race, nip and tuck. people aren't sure who emerges as the winner and particularly on the democratic side, this kind of jockeying, this parlor game started earlier. >> on the donald trump side, arguably, because he's such a newcomer to politics and government, he might be much more reliant on cabinet officials, at least in the first instance than he might otherwise be, right. >> i think that's totally true. i think when's tricky with donald trump and goes back to what you were just discussing on the show a few minutes ago, he's a mercurial figure, not clear

about what he's looking for and he did say he didn't want to choose from the foreign policy establishment because they got us into so many messes overseas so i think for the republicans, it's less certain how this is all going to shake out. there's a second element here on the republican side which is that at least on the foreign policy side so many republicans have publicly disavowed trump and whether they've said they're gong to vote for hillary or not vote it's kind of changed the situation for her, as well. i mean, she hypothetically would have the option of choosing from a bench of republicans who have come out against trump and very unusual. >> and we also know that there's a big impetus to have more women in the cabinet, in some of the big jobs. we have had women secretaries of state and seen that now for decades. the first woman as defense secretary, michelle flournoy and

maybe treasury between the two diplomatic burns. former deputy secretary of state. >> well, andrea, you're deeper in the parlor games than i am. i've mentioned some of those names but not all of them and you're absolutely right and the issue with the state department is because hillary clinton was secretary of state, there's a sense that she might not go for a sort of another celebrity figure, a major political figure like she was or john kerry is. she might want a trusted, reliable person she knows well and bill burns, former deputy secretary of state and nick burns, a close adviser to her, an undersecretary of state, would both fit that bill. but you're absolutely right. at the pentagon, michelle flournoy's name perhaps the most clear name come out in this whole process of guessing. >> guessing game beginning already. thank you so much, mark. and we have much more ahead. , g. i am proud of you, my man. making simple, smart cash back choices...

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that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports. follow the show online. stephanie wu picks it up next here on msnbc. stephanie? >> thank you so much, ea. you know what we're covering today. were beginning the hour with more breaking news on this big story. long time hillary clinton aide huma abedin just announced she is separating from former congressman anthony weiner after "the new york post" reports of another sext iin ining scandal. appears to be an inappropriate photo of him next to a child and "the post" says is his young son. our nbc reporters are following the reaction from the campaign trail and including donald trump. he's already weighed in, issued a statement in the past hour. and i want to take you first to kirsten welker covering the clinton campaign. you have spoken with a close friend of huma abedin. what did you learn? >> according to this friend of in