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and we're out of time. remember, follow us on facebook and twitter. craig melvin is here picking it up on msnbc. >> craig melvin here on primary day for msnbc live. good afternoon to you. john mccain, marco rubio and debbie wasserman schultz and others trying to hold on to their seats today. the trick, of course, is to win the hearts of the fired up deeply partisan base republicans facing the tougher trick this time around and they distanced themselves from some of the campaign's controversial policies and statements. the latest, which we'll get to in a moment, involves a sur
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gate. let's start with the primaries. reports from tee key contests across the country. nbc's kelly o'donnell is in phoenix where john mccain is hoping for a blowout in his arizona primary. kelly, what is it that makes this race different for john mccain. mccain is in the vice grip of being a nominee himself, wanting to support the nominee long before it was known that donald trump would be the person, not wanting to go back on that and yet at the same time, having differences with how donald trump has conducted himself, the things he said. so the environment plays large here. often there are office holders
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in washington where they are in a phase where there are many voters who just say washington, incumbency, that's a negative. it's something that john mccain has had to fight with with his 47-year-old incumbent kelly ward. she's a physician and has been hitting mccain hard on things like age and his tenure, his incumbency. he voted here at this church with his wife cindy and then after that talked to reporters and predicted things would go well today. >> you can see that we've been inspired by so many of our young interns, well over 200 of them have that been working incredible hours and getting out to vote and that's why we're very confident about the outcome today and we look forward to moving for the election in
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november. >> reporter: and mccain acknowledges that the campaign would be tougher and a lot of support coming in and at the same time, arizonans know him. it won't be easy but that's where it is right now. primary day for john mccain. he's already looking forward to november. >> kelly o'donnell in arizona, thank you. we go to florida where marco rubio is up for re-election after his failed run for nomination for president. kasie hunt is in kissimmee. how is trump affecting his chances at all of keeping that senate seat? >> well, marco rubio didn't have the luxury of being able to keep his head down because, of course, he ran in the presidential race saying that he wasn't all that interested of
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staying in the senate, how he didn't really like his job that much. once he lost the presidential primary to develop and came back and decided he did want to run for the seat and it looks like he'll run to the primary victory. in the fall, he'll face patrick murphy. although there's a primary on that side today as well, the challenge will be figuring out how to negotiate donald trump, especially in a state that is going to be a central if not the central battleground in the general election. and rubio, of course, is a potential test case for how you run a different kind of case, how you run for hispanic votes, for example. he's talked about quite a bit about a potential latino republican nominee for president down the line. clearly something that he still wants to do. but it's a delicate dance for marco rubio. one of the few times he's been out there talking in interviews or in situations that have gotten as far as the national
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press with the editorial board where he stood by everything that he's ever said about donald trump, including calling him a conman. but now he's turned around and told florida voters they should back donald trump over hillary clinton. that's a little bit of a difficult place to be. i'm interested to see how he continues to negotiate that once he's clear of this and is able to run in a general election, especially if it becomes clear that hillary clinton is building a lead here in florida with what we might expect. typically a very intense battleground but democrats feeling better about a state like this one than a state like ohio or pennsylvania even though pennsylvania has moved. the rustbelt states with the white, working-class voters is different than a state here in florida where many of the republicans are cubans in miami and where you have a sizeable puerto rican population in the i-4 corridor where we are near orlando. so a much different place and a
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different potential landscape for marco rubio as he tries to turn out the republican base voters who might like donald trump and expand beyond that. craig? >> it wasn't that long ago where we heard donald trump repeatedly referring to the senator from florida as little marco. and now it's like it never happened. it's a strange thing. strange bedfellows i guess is what they call it. kasie hunt, thank you. another sunshine state showdown for former dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz. alex is in davie, florida. what are we hearing from the candidate? >> well, this is another reverberation from the controversy around debbie wasserman schultz, this chairman ship of the dnc.
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her opponent is tim canova, a law professor, not very well-known, but saying that she lost touch with her district while she was chairman of the party, spent too much time raising money for democrats and from special interests and wasn't looking out for the small guys. debbie wasserman has been representing the district for a long time. this is her seventh term if she wins. look how she pushes back. >> that's not what i've heard from people all across the district because it isn't true. i've been very present and that's why i've gotten tremendous support because people know i've had their back. >> reporter: so, you know, bernie sanders supporters are
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not going to be enough to get tim canova over the top. i actually talked to a voter earlier today who voted for sanders in march but voted for debbie wasserman schultz today. canova needs to run on that message that she's lost touch with the district. a lot of the voters that i've talked to know debbie and her kids who are in this district and it's going to be an uphill climb for him tonight. >> should wasserman schultz prevail, how are her prospects in november? >> reporter: this is a very strong democrat district. she is almost guaranteed to win in november. she's faced some token republican opposition. you can get a lot of media attention by running against the chairman of the democratic party. >> alex seitz-wald, thank you, as always, sir.
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pastor burns, as we were talking, for your apology, was this asked for by the trump campaign or did you make it on your own accord? >> absolutely not asked by the campaign. not at all. >> donald trump's surrogate mark burns with the latest controversy now. we should warn you once again that this is an image is
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offensive. there it is again. burns has had to apologize for this editorial cartoon showing hillary clinton there in blackface. msnbc msnbc msnbc's katy tur is joining us from everett, washington. does this change the plans to have him speak at all? >> reporter: it does not change the plans but doesn't help with donald trump's outreach to african-americans. pastor burns often opens for donald trump in various rallies, at various rallies. he's forceful on stage. he's forceful about donald trump's -- what should be donald trump's appeal to african-american voters, specifically when it comes to creating jobs. so this near universally condemned tweet does not help
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donald trump's message and doesn't help his ability to connect with african-american voters. they are polling at 1 to 2% among the african-american community right now. that is not good. if you take 538's analysis, that's the worst that any republican has done so they need to find a way to not only speak to african-american voters but connect with african-american voters. how will donald trump be received in detroit this weekend? that is the big question if he still goes to detroit. we believe he is still going. is he going to be welcomed or meet with protesters. the campaign is trying to make a concerted effort to show that donald trump is understanding and understands the challenges facing the african-american
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communities and minority communities as well. craig? >> katy tur for us in washington state. really quickly, why is trump in washington state tonight? >> donald trump is going for a 50-state strategy. that's what the campaign says. they've always said this. they do realize, sources in the campaign realize this is a state he will not win but he's fundraising today and they believe he might as well do a rally. after all, these rallies gain national attention so they don't believe it's a waste of time and they don't believe it's a waste of money, as some people have alleged. >> katy tur for us in everett, washington. we should note for our viewers at home, while we're having this conversation, we are keeping a close eye on tim kaine in erie, pennsylvania. we're keeping a close eye and ear on senator kaine. doug kingston is a former
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congressman from georgia and is a trump surrogate. good to see you. thank you for being back with me. forget the fact that the reverend is a black guy. how does anybody in 2016 know that blackface is not acceptable. >> i think we all agree it is unacceptable. i think it's important that he took down that post almost immediately. he's apologized twice. it wasn't anything that was coordinated, of course. he was acting on his own. sometimes when you have a dynamic campaign, you have a lot of people that say things they shouldn't say. but when you think about it, jeremiah wright's very controversial -- that was not held against -- >> congressman, that is not true. you remember two weeks of coverage with the reverend and
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president obama. but again, to try to say this is bad but -- why not just say this is bad. let's move on. >> let me clarify that, then. it's bad, it's unacceptable. let's move on. the point about jeremiah wright or maybe matin's father who went to the hillary clinton's campaign, you can't hold that against her. the reality is, in a dynamic campaign environment, people are going to say things disconnected with the campaign. i agree with you, totally unacceptable. we're not debating that at all. >> so this was a rogue surrogate, to a certain extent? >> absolutely. >> here's the thing, though. because this is not the first controversy for a trump campaign surrogate, as you know. burns had trump and blackface.
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katrina pierson talked about something that was not the case. why do your republicans become the story? >> because i think if you think of a donald trump rally versus a hillary clinton rally, hillary clinton is very scripted and has very dull messages and speeches. she hasn't given a press conference now in 270 days. we have 15,000 people coming to our rallies and you're going to have things. cher, of course, the other day called donald trump a baby murderer and said that he's like hitler and stalin would be proud of him. hillary clinton did not denounce that. you have that sort of element that enters into the campaign as part of our first amendment right to get out and say things and often we say stupid things and crazy things and things that don't reflect the values of the candidate or the campaign, which is the case. we're totally in agreement on it. now, i think what we want to do is talk about substance in terms of what do you do for african-americans and all
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americans and that's jobs, get the government off the back, have tax simplification, get rid of the regulatory environment so entrepreneurship will grow and i think that's what we really want to talk about. >> let's talk substance. let's talk about this big immigration speech tomorrow donald trump had previously talked about a deportation force. this is what kellyanne conway says about its current status. >> why can't anyone answer if he's in favor of deportation still or not? >> i've said that. he's not talked about it in a long time. >> so is he against it or for it? >> he hasn't talked about it for a long time. >> you understand, you're not answering the question. >> we're 70 days from the election and it's right there that has some folks scratching
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their heads. why doesn't the campaign know yet whether a deportation force is part of his immigration policy. is it or is it not? >> it is part of it. we're going to learn more on wednesday. >> so there will be a deportation force? >> i can't let the opportunity go to remind you that hillary clinton hasn't had a press conference in 270 days. it would be great to know details of any of the plans. but let me say this. >> but we're talking about a deportation force. >> craig, i'll say this -- >> we have talked about that considerably, by the way, the fact that donald trump has had 17 to date. >> but let's talk about this. tomorrow night he's going to lay out his immigration plan. >> and two weeks after that, will we still be asking questions about his immigration plan? >> we do want to talk about immigration. the fact that hillary clinton is open borders and pro amnesty and we want to build a wall, we're going to talk about no sanctuary
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cities, we're talking about protecting jobs through e-verify. hillary clinton hasn't made a position about e-verify. although she's probably against it. one thing we don't talk about enough is when employers drive down the wages of american workers. there's a lot of substance to this debate. donald trump hasn't run from it as an issue. there may be communication issues in terms of stumbling here. that's what it is all about. >> clearing up the confusion tomorrow night. >> absolutely. >> congressman jack kingston, thank you. >> thanks a lot, craig. troubles in the tropics. two storms gaining a lot of power in the gulf of mexico and the pacific threatening florida, threatening hawaii with heavy rains and winds over the next several i days. we're keeping a close eye on that forecast track.
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mid-grade to high-grade tropical storm before it moves in on thursday morning coming across the state thursday afternoon and coming back out over the open water early friday and then most likely moving out to the atlantic after that. there are some models that want to take it further after that. we need to watch that. rainfall is going to be a huge impact. wind problabilities are fairly high. rainfall in the order of several inches in the north-central part of the state in particular. that's going to be enough to cause flash flooding. on top of that, you've got these two storms that are out in the central and eastern part of the pacific coming towards hawaii. this is really unusual for hawaii to be threatened from storms to the east rather than the south. both are now category 3
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paraphrase, mark twain, the reports of my political demise are greatly exaggerated." but just this morning, the governor suggested otherwise. >> can we anticipate that you're going to finish out your term? >> i don't know, george. as i said earlier, i'm looking at all options. i think some things i have been asked to do are beyond my ability and i'm not going to say that i'm not going to finish it. it's not about me. it's about the maine people. if i've lost my ability to convince the maine people that's what we need and that's the type of people we need in augusta, then maybe it is time to move on." >> mark murray is joining me now. a few hours ago he was like, maybe i'll leave. ten minutes ago it was, nope, auto i am not going anywhere. what gives? >> i think the simple
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explanation is lepage apologizing for the rant and voice mail he ended up leaving and towards the end he's asked a hypothetical question, would you end up stepping down and that anguish, look, everything is on the table there where if you read in the totality, someone who really was shaken and didn't want to basically leave any kind of possibility that was open but i think that now with that tweet you're seeing and with the office kind of pushed back, i'm not sure we're going to necessarily see a resignation but it's clear that his words and the apology that comes afterwards has shaken the governor. >> thank you for helping us understand what is happening in maine a bit. mark, thank you. hillary clinton, a bit broadsided by "the new york times" today while fundraising in michigan. the editorial board says it agrees with donald trump about the clinton foundation.
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"pay-to-play charges by donald trump have not been proved but the e-mails and previous reporting suggests mr. trump has reason to say that while mrs. clinton was secretary, it was hard to tell where the foundation ended and the state department began." msnbc's kristen welker covers the clinton campaign for us and she's here at 30 rock. it's very rare to hear donald trump and "the times" editorial board agree on anything. >> i heard from a clinton campaign official for the first time about this all day who said we stand by what we said last week. we stand by the work of the clinton foundation. they really believe that it has done a lot of good work particularly with those living with hiv/aids in other countries and at the same time, changes need to be made. if secretary clinton is elected, they are no longer going to accept contributions from
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foreign corporations and bill clinton will step down from the board. "the times" is saying, hey, why not put this into effect right now? what we heard last week was an acknowledgement that this is becoming a political problem, to some extent. >> let's talk about this tweet here. pastor burns, of course, has apologized at least twice now. didn't apologize to you yesterday. >> he did not. i tried. >> but apologized a few hours after that. it was perhaps as if you moved something. but the clinton campaign, are they reacting at all to any of this? >> they are not reacting to this. what is interesting, you see these controversies and the headlines make the case for them, if you will. secretary clinton has made one of her big issues. last week on the campaign trail, linking donald trump to the
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alt-right and saying that his outreach to the african-american community, when you have a controversy like this, it feeds in that narrative. that's why they are choosing not to respond. i'm told that her surrogates will be out this week in key battleground states and they'll talk about clinton's outreach to african-americans, minority voters and echoing what she said last week and right now she has a big lead among african-american voters. donald trump's goal is to narrow that gap. he thinks that is his best way to win the white house. >> is that part of the goal or are there folks who will resign them to the fact that we're never going to get blacks or hispanics to vote for us but if we can just demonstrate to certain white voters that we are not offensively racist or bigoted, is that more of the
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strategy? >> i think it's two prong. to win over and win back the more controversial rhetoric not only from donald trump but his surrogates and that was on display yesterday. of course, the pastor came out and said his decision was his and his alone but there's no doubt that in the recent days donald trump is under new management and so this clearly fits into that. >> kristen welker here at 30 rockefeller, always great to have you in the flesh. >> thank you, craig. we should reminds folks who are in their cars and at home, we're keeping an eye on tim kaine in erie, pennsylvania, the democrats number two speaking we're keeping a close eye and
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ear on what he's saying. robert trainum is joining us. the fact that the clinton foundation presents a conflict of interests is a devastating rebuke of hillary clinton and at a minimum hillary clinton should heed the growing calls for her corruption foundation to cease accepting foreign and corporate contributions immediately with each donation becomes more and more compromised. doesn't that mean that the campaign has a problem? >> well, it's an interesting editorial. but look, everything that the
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hillary clinton campaign did -- i'm sorry, the state department did when they were dealing with the clinton foundation was really unprecedented. you have george bush senior with his foundation and no issues there. it's almost like we're setting a new precedence because it's hillary clinton. so i think that it's been proven that there's no pay for play. they have made no money from this. so i have to disagree. i think that there's no pay for play as explained. they've done really great work and i think that everything that the clinton foundation and both clintons have done have been really unprecedented. >> you know what would clear a lot of this up for folks would be a news conference. >> 270 days? >> it's been -- yeah. it's not just the republican talking point. >> yep. >> it really has been so far this year.
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donald trump, 17 news conferences. hillary clinton has had none. that doesn't do a whole lot to help the appearance that she's not as always as transparent as folks would like her to be. >> yes, that's something that the clinton campaign is going to have to deal with. look, i think that she has offered and mentioned herself opportunities for her to speak to the press. i think as we get past labor day as the campaign starts getting closer to november 8th, we'll see a lot more. >> robert, what do you make of that? why not just -- if you've heard people talking at nauseaum about how you're never available to the press, why not hold a token news conference and line up reporters and let them fire away. why not that? >> i was smiling here because a lot of this is -- it's hard to defend. it doesn't even pass the smell
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test here. first and foremost, if you're serving in government and i'm the prince or princess of an organization or a country, why do i need to go to the clinton foundation to get a meeting? why can't i call the state department? that's number one. number two, look, this is not about "the new york times" or donald trump. it's about the american people just trying to understand from a transparency standpoint how this person operates. that's the question a lot of people want the answers to and i think it speaks to your point, craig, or your question, about a press conference. there's nothing like a press conference where you stand at the podium with the natural give and take between a reporter and yourself where you're constantly on the defense in a good way. that's the exchange of ideas. that's the exchange of how a democracy is supposed to work with respect to you and us being transparent. say whatever you will about donald trump -- and there's a lot to say about him -- you
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can't deny the fact that he has the give and take between the colleagues and yourself and we don't see that on the democratic side which gives people pause. not pause about the e-mails or whether the clinton foundation does great work or not but just pause about transparency. >> the two national polls out today, the monmouth poll may have come out late last night. i'm not sure. they both have clinton down a bit. there is a four-point lead, down two points and do we think that donald trump is closing the gap or is this just where we will probably end up come november? >> let me rephrase the question. if in fact you had a candidate that took on the pope, if you had a candidate that said nasty things and horrible things about women and other individuals out there, would you think that that
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person's favorable ratings would be so low that the other person would have really, really high favorable ratings and would win this case in a cake walk. we have this situation where hillary clinton still cannot close the gap. granted, she's ahead but it says something that she's not even further ahead given the fact that she's running against someone that has offended so many constituencies on so many different levels. it speaks to the level of trust or lack thereof that the american people have or don't have about hillary clinton and also donald trump. it says something about that themselves. >> polls are a snapshot in time, right? they are not predicting the race today. and we always knew it was going to be a single-digit race. that's how president elections are. they are not usually blowouts. so this is not actually all that surprising. number two, this race is going to be run on the ground. and one campaign has a
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sophisticated cutting edge field operation on the ground in 10 to 11 key battleground states and the other one doesn't. that's where we are right now. about 270 electoral votes. >> we're out of time. next time. a big thanks to both of you. >> thank you. tax problems. donald trump still refusing to release his tax returns despite the fact that 60% of americans say it's important to do so. we'll look at that. but first, take a look at this. your responses to our microsoft poll question. there's the question. trump surrogate pastor burns apologized for his offensive tweet. should the trump campaign apologize, too? results, here they are, so far, 93% of you say yes.
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numbers that you saw, which are obviously focused on donald trump, they led with the question, do you know that he hasn't released his return, the democrats and independents are the ones who are more likely to say he should release his returns and republicans are less likely to do so. they also asked about hillary clinton and her ties to the state department and clinton foundation. they are more willing to say they should be held accountable for those seen as a negative for the campaign. >> is it reasonable to assume that it closely correlates daily tracking polls with regards to who do you support, clinton or trump? >> that is accurate. >> how do independents play in here? >> the interesting thing is, most tend to lean towards one party to the other. we gloss over that a lot. when you look at how they are
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leaning nationally, most independents don't like either of these candidates so they are saying, yes, you have to release your tax returns. >> phillip bump, it's very fascinating. a majority of voters say they want to see him put out the returns. it doesn't look like it's going to happen. >> it doesn't look like it. donald trump, can he break the hawkeye normally voting for the democrats? we look at foreign politics, next.
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>> i was just outside of this the day before. it was a small child who had seen his mother die before his eyes. her last act was to bring him to the united states. i don't think it's our role to say this is how your viewers should think. i think it is our responsibility to let people know what is going on. many times so close to our border. that is something we do very well on msnbc. a key state for donald trump's path to the presidency, iowa. the state is one of the major battle grounds that could turn from blue to read. nbc's jacob soboroff has made his way from waterloo, iowa, to
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des moines, iowa, to populous polk county. jacob soboroff in iowa standing before a bunch of corn, not cliche as all. >> thanks, greg. i couldn't find anywhere else to go. truth of the matter is, this stuff is everywhere. iowa is number two ag state. think how much smaller iowa is than california. number one export out of the state is this. when it comes to this state it is cliche. a lot of politics is foreign politics. i went into one of the famous corn mazes of iowa, cliche as well. take a look. when it comes to picking a president swing state politics can be quite as confusing but not as confusesing as navigating this iowa corn maze. hello. a little drizzle in the corn maze. >> do you know who you're going to vote for in november? >> absolutely.
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>> what do you think? >> hillary. >> hillary. >> your self. >> gary johnson. >> you decided not to go for either of the candidates. how come? >> i don't like either one of them. >> is this important to you, ag issues. >> my dad is a farmer. >> who is your dad voting for? >> trump. >> i have cousins that never want to vote and they are wanting to. >> because. >> something about trump speaks to them. >> hello. looking to november, there is somebody as a farmer that would be better suited to your needs? >> neither one of them. >> who come? >> ethanol is huge to corn farmers. if we did not have ethanol today, we would have corn piled everywhere. >> who is better with ethanol? do you think either of them have an idea what ethanol is about.
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>> probably not. >> you're voting for trump. >> if i was put in a corner and had to, probably trump. >> joan says don't listen. are you listening to joan or going with your husband? >> i'll listen to joan. >> you're going with joan. >> i have to go with clinton, i just do. >> if hillary clinton and donald trump came to your corn maze, who would make it out first. >> neither. >> they would get stuck. >> neither. >> i'm sorry, i have to follow you out of here. thank god i made it out of the corn maze. like the farmer said, ethanol is a confusing issue, something most people would have a hard time explaining, myself included. the thing you need to understand there's a renewable fuel standard that mixes some of this stuff into the gasoline. some of the cars, donald trump considers that, hillary clinton,
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blackface, but the message that i intended i still stand behind. but my apology is because i think my message got lost in the translation. >> new poll numbers show trump is cleepg had creeping up on hillary clinton especially among undecided voters. the big question, what's the policy? new reporting on what we can expect from trump's prime time speech on immigration tomorrow. we're going to kick this hour off with reporters covering clinton and trump campaign. katy tur will be where trump is capping off voters. trying to attract african-american voters. pastor burns, high-profile surrogate for donald trump. key organizer for outreach is now caught up in this controversy. from your sources inside the campaign, did they have much influence over the tweets or apology of burns? >> my sources are saying