next time. we're out of town. we're past midnight. thank you to my roundtable. "hardball" is going to return tomorrow night at 7:00 eastern. rachel maddow is standing by for a special edition of her show. abraham lincoln even ran for the senate as a whig party candidate. the whig party has kind of a abraham lincoln even ran for the senate as a whig party candidate.

abraham lincoln even ran for the senate as a whig party candidate. abraham lincoln even ran for the senate as a whig party candidate.

the whig party has kind of a funny name, right? but it was a major political party. at one point or another, presidents john quincy adams and benjamin harrison and rutherford b. hayes and abraham lincoln, they were all members of the whig party. the whig party was a really, really big deal in american party politics, but then they weren't. they fell apart. the whigs were riven by internal divisions as the nation grew and changed. a lot of their division had to do with the issue of slavery and some other principled issues, but the whig party had been a huge deal and then it fell

apart. political parties back then weren't exactly what they are today, but when the wig party fell apart, the two-party system of the time fell apart a little bit as well. you have two parties and one of them collapses. it doesn't just mean good news for the other party. it means that two-party system that depends on tension and one of the things that happened is that we had secrete societies that formed to drive catholics out of the country. one of them was the star spangled baern and order of united americans. they are all different groups with different names. the whole reason and the animated cause was that they were against catholics. they were against these filthy

immigrants that were destroying america who are ruining everything here to the most filthy and when the movement and body by the secrete societies spread out of the city and england and went big nationwide and it did go big nationwide.

the movement morphed a little bit. it was very strikingly anticatholic. by the time they were ready to spawn the offsprings in california, and the version was antichinese. this movement in american politics around the time the party system collapsed, it was nativism. nativism. they hated immigrants and blamed everything wrong and it started

as the secrete societies and they vently got a name and become known as the no nothing agreement. the origins november simple. they said that they know nothing about party. the origins november in see e crete societies. so if you november asked and if you were a member of the movement, you were to say i know nothing. that's how they got the name the nothings. but for a brief period in our history around the collapse of the wig before the civil war, the know nothings got really big really fast and did that in the waste land of this two party system getting rattled. wigs collapsed and two party

democracy fell apart for the time because of that. so we got this across the country t. no mayor of philadelphia said there would be no appointments and they took over major cities and legislature in massachusetts and spread nationwide and one of the members and they were a big deal in politics for a couple of years as the normal party system broke it down and stopped the

function then they collapsed. if you think about it, it's kind of hard to run a national party big enough to sustain it was to grow if the reason that you exist is to carve out the chunk and define them as the problem and the thing that's causing all of the other thing in the country the thing that you can blame the dissatisfaction on. if you're blaming immigrants for all of the problems in the country, then only pure americans and native born americans meet the standard for those in the party. problem is that we're not part of the country. we're all basically immigrant, so the know nothings did rise to prominent and there was a system of two parties to take up the space and then sustainable politics could happen. they rose for a hot minute in that environment when the two party system stopped working. it did not last and the party dried under and blew away and was -- when they're not functioning well against the national parties, now we know to expect this sort of stuff to come back.

it does couple. it's like anthrax dormant in the soil. we're a nation of immigrants that turn on immigrants ask escape goats when normal politics don't work anymore. so when the wind is just right and the host is weak, just wait. the blame the immigrants system that's always around at some level comes back and comes out of the secrete society and comes roaring out once again under the dark. >> countless lives have been stolen. he was murdered by an illegal immigrant gang member previously conflicted and brutally beaten and left to bleed to death in his home. 90 years old. the perpetrators november illegal were illegal immigrants. illegal immigrants and other

noncitizens had around 25,000 homicide arrests to their names. they're vast numbers that have fled and it's deadly none enforcement policies that allow thousands of criminals aliens to freely roam our streets, walk around and do whatever they want to do and crime all over the place. two law enforcement office ers recently killed by a previously deported illegal immigrant if

these are not sitting home, your law enforcement officers have to release them into your communities. by the way, the results are horrific. horrific. the release of thousands and thousands of dangerous criminal aliens that should have been sent home to the country, and instead we have them all over the place. f those released are individuals conflicted of killings, sexual assaults and some of the most heinous crimes imaginable. 30 percent committed new offenses including rape, attempted murder and child molestation. we take anybody. just come on in anybody. not anymore.

all energies of the federal government and the legislative process must be focused on immigration security. that's the only con sler sags that we should be having at this time is immigration security. cut it off a. the local police who know everyone of these criminals and they know each and every one by name, by crime, where they live, they will work so fast and our local police will be so happy that they do not have to be abused by the thugs anymore. my first hour in office, these people are gone. you can call it deported if you want, the press does not like that term. you can call it whatever the hell you want, they're gone.

beyond the 2 million and there are vase numbers, but the days have run out in this country the crime will stop. they're going to be gone. it will be over. >> you're tired, poor and yearning to burn free. send these, the homless to me. i lift my lamp beside the golden door. republican party has been antiimmigrant for a few years now in the current lit ration.

that's a good sign and the republican party moved and they have been getting hard line against it and immigration for a few years. but this nativist tirade tonight in arizona and donald trump tonight claiming that cutting off the immigration is the most important in the country saying that it's the only conversation that we should be having at this time. that is older and deeper than the republican party drift. that's the kind of antiimmigrant nativism that we have had in the country before. when we get it is when the normal politics collapse. we're a system that was never designed this way but we became this way really fast. we're a system and democratic system that's designed to work with two major parties. we know now zsh this has

happened before and this happens in our country. there's a reason that david duke from the kkk praised this as an excellent speech. it's not just because he is aa creep but the 1920s klan was the next and they were no noes and previous interrations of these things that seep out of these societies and into the real

politics when the real politics fail. donald trump humiliated the republican party this year. they ran the senators and former governors and of those main stream and he destroyed all of them. he destroyed and humiliated the republican party this year because the republican party was weak. th keeps on growing back. it's would be the ugliest things that we have ever been as a country and now living it in our generation again. if you have allergy congestion, muddling through your

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two million people my first day in office those people are gone. and you can call it deported if you want. the press does not like that term. you can call it whatever the hell you want, they're gone. their days have ran out in this country. the crime will stop. they're going to be gone. it will be over. >> you know it's funny. the whole national media spends

a couple of weeks being led by the news and discussing donald trump's softening on the issue of immigration only to have us hear from him tonight that he is going to deport at least 2 million people in the first hour that he is president. not just the first day but the first hour. 2 million people. joining us now is ceo of the voter latino and great to see you. thanks for being here. >> thank you rachel. >> can i get the overall reaction on what you heard about as an overall reaction? >> well, it was chilling what i heard. this was not anything short of a hate speech. i want to share what the folks miss and the idea of extreme betting and certification and a task force. i love the way that you opened

up the show and often times we forget when the party systems are breaking there's cracks and vulnerables to start to escape goat. er immigrants sort short of the native americans and what he did was put one against the other. that's alarming. we have not seen this in modern times. the fact that you have 200 generals and the fact that you have over 100 republicans elected saying that trump is not them should be sending, you know, smoke alarms anywhere and saying that this is something that's unusual and we should not embrace this and allow this to be normalized as something that's who we are. it's not. a lot has to deal with the demographics that we're changing. i understand that people are feeling uncomfortable, but it's

because no one is explain the demographic i cans. they're talking about it in ways that are possibly not true. the fact that he was going to deport 11 million undocumented people is impossible. it could bankrupt homeland security. it's not talking about supporting family values and against who we are. >> we started to talk on the radio and and i was thinking of the few moments over the last few years and when the republican party as the party home of conservism is coming around this idea of making peace with the immigrants and with the system. and this is something that happens when the party collapses and the institution and even as a political organization that we

saw. do you see it that way or do you think that this is a continuation of where the party is going. and they built it with the media and sarah pay len. they thought that they could control them and saying that you main streamed the right and you can control it when the whole policy and whole idea is to slash and burn and decree stroi. now you have an opportunity and i honestly you have an opportunity within the republican party and democrats to make this a land slide election to hold fast and say this is not who we are. the only way to shut it down is to insure that you do not have a 51 percent of the polls but you have a land slide election of 60

percent or more. there maybe. the fact what we said is that cops can identify an undocumented person is racial profiling. the fact that he said that he is okay not providing aa pathway to basically reverse the constitution and stripping birth rights is not for everyone but a select few. and again an alarm should be sounding and we should be preparing ourself to be sure that we're going to repute this

hate language. >> thank you respect and ceo thank you for talking to us. glad that you can be here. >> thank you so much rachel. >> now, in terms of hour we respond to this as a country, i believe and spell this out at the top of the show but i believe that this form of radical lichl and the only thing that you see from the secrete societies back in time and the very very very far right fringe that's almost a secrete society right now seeing this in a presidential campaign right now i do think is a symptom that the republican party has ceased to carry it's weight as a functioning policy driven oriented and political party. i also think that it's a test to see if the republican party is going to be like the presidential nominee or find

themselves an opposition to this. much more to come. stay with us. we will be right back.

i want to show you something that we saw tonight in phoenix. this is alabama senator jeff sessions wearing the old standard trump campaign hat. this was him back on february 28th make america great again hat. that's the signal peace of trump swag.

the hate is something that the trump campaign spends a large portion of the campaign budget on as well. make america great again. there's jeff sexes wearing the hat.

we're going to end, catch and release. we catch them they're going. under my administration anyone

that illegally crosses the border will be detained until they are moved out of our country and back to the country from which they came. >> after that point in his speech mr. trump seemed to riff a bit. he went on to say not only will people be rounded up and taken out of this country and sent back to where they came, but anybody that's caught will be sent back across the border will be brought great distances to make sure that they don't get back in. is that true than if you came from a few miles away. what if you came from the border and south texas. how far would they send you then?

joining us now is professor of american mexican studies at the university of texas. f it's nice to see you tonight. thanks for being here on the show. >> thanks rachel. >> that was a policy speech and a lot of things. a lot of people felt that it was unnerving for the sustained tin er of the hollaring that this entailed. did he say anything about the policy or anything? >> well, the truth of the matter that the policy speech did not bring anything new from the initial policy platform that he put forward. he did describe the details that went into it, but if you go to the website and look what he put up, nothing has changed. he never called for mass depor

taths but left wiggle room to have it both ways. one thing that he did not talk more about in the speech and really did not talk much about on the campaign trail is doing what he can for -- what's missing is what the employers? it's easy to blame the victim and the immigrants. it's easy to talk about building a wall. it's easy to build these folks, but what about the employers that are making a lot of money off of the immigrants that are paid a third half of normal working wages? it's a lot easier to go after folks than the colleagues that are employeeing the folks. >> if he did that, is he walking into not a a track but maybe a life track because in other things the donald trump modelling agency has a long and we reported history of not just hiring immigrants but hiring them and coaching them specially to lie to immigrations and

custom authorities so that they can work here illegally when they're not allowed to model for them. the trump agency found that to be financial for them to do. >> yeah, hiring undocumented workers through subcontractors and most recently the hotel that he is building in washington dc. with regard to trump and the immigration, it's easy to talk about it and the employee sanctions. he does not want to go there and get into the details. it's easy to talk about building a wall, but it's not easy to talk about the employerings. if you really want to talk about the mechanisms, he say that is he is worried of saving american jobs and saving money.

it would be a lot less expensive to just find employers that are hiring undocumenting people than to build a wall that's estimated to cost billions of dollars. lest not talk about the cost of deporting 11 million people or saying 2 million people that he would do in the first hour. he is a business man and likes to talk about dollars and cents. let's look at the building plan and it's curving the demanld. ill grants are not going to come here if folks are not going to hire them. >> thank you for being with us tonight. it's good to have you here. >> good night rachel. >> it's good to be here. we usually my show is 9:00 p.m. eastern and then rerun. when something like this happens in prime time i get so fired up that i talk to my girlfriend into the late evenings. it's nice to do this and be here at work doing it. more to come. we will be right back.

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vote whether to raise the minimum wage. they rejected a challenge on the minimum warges so it's going to be on the ballot. here is why it's important. beyond the affect how many much people make in the jobs, it's important politically beyond that because when there are act measures and about raising the medium wage, they tebd to win and by a lot. they tend the increase the voter turn out and people like to vote for minimum wage increase and people come out to vote when the increases are on the ballot if something else may not even get them to the polls. so that's the first dose and then finally approved yesterday for november's balance. the second one arrived late today and rejected the challenge to letting the voters have a say in pot. legal recreational pot in

arizona. that means that arizona voters will get to say yay or may smoking pet legally just for fun. just like minimum wage issues on pot are poplar. so poplar that they're expect today goose the voter turn out particularly for democratic leading voters. so in terms of the prospects they have gone democrat for president once in 70 years, were but two things are happening on the ballot in november and that's going to push it in a new direction. that's not what don o don screamed about in phoenix. it's a fascinating store skpri that one is next. >> i'm alex trebek.

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line politic in the country and especially when it comes to the issue of immigration. it's home to s 70 and the papers please law that says that arizona law enforcement could demand papers and documentation from anyone and any time and that's a hunch that you may not have them. then criminal charges for his treatment of the latino population in arizona's most populace county. arizona is home to these guys

armed malicious manatees and playing dress up and joining the border with mexico. arizona is lit up with hard right politics and the issue of immigration. this is where donald trump decided to give his immigration speech and hard right politics. also a state that's 31 percent latino. needless the same trump's vote screamed and it was a 31 percent crowd. with this said arizona politics maybe siftding under donald trump's feel a a little bit. when he was meeting today and

then how dangerous immigrants are, this add was roll itself out across arizona. from a national perspective, you may not reck e niez them but if you speak the spanish and consume it in arizona, you would recognize these as all of the media in the state. they made this ad and a psa get at getting the latino voters to register. it's coproduced by the tv and radio station and all working together. and they're sort of calling the question. how can they have right wing politics and rapidly politics when they're 31 percent latino as a state? the answer is that they can not if they registered to vote and there's not an effort to register them in arizona.

it's because of donald trump. so hope you enjoyed your time tonight in phoenix mr. trump. look at what you did while you were there. joining us now from the voters and that's behind the ad is the national field director and thank you so much for joining us. that's nice to have you here. >> thank you. thank you for the opportunity. let me ask you if you were able to see donald trump's speech tonight in arizona and if you have any reaction. >> yeah, no. and i'm shoftenning on immigration and what we saw was

the confirmation and the latino voters and knew and the general election voters got to know and see that this is a real donald trump. him using w down on antiimmigrant rhetoric and attacking the community and eyesing french policies around the issue of immigration and separating the families. look, i grew up in arizona and there's already a wall there. there's a wall over senators miles over the southern border. essentially what he has done is build a wall between the dancy and latino vote ers. now it's up to latino voters to really use the vote as the vote this november and actively. >> i know that it's been a democratic fantasy to try to get the latino voters registered and voting with the same frequency as other groups in the country.

as you're doing this work, do you think that donald trump has changed. do you think that what he talks about and deporting 2 million people in the first hour as president and it's not about the wall as you were saying. does it change people if they want go through the troublg of rej zering the voting? >> yeah, i think his attacking and since the start and rhetoric around verbally attacking us and latinos are smart. we're savvy politically and paying attention. now it's up to us to show the

political strength. we talked about the demographic i cans and potential and now it's up to us. we're calling out for them to have and again use the vote as the voice and mobilize the friends and families to register that's what it is going to take. >> yeah, it's remarkable to have all of these radio stations and all of the media personalities and some hot competition between them to all appear together and standing with each other and all appearing with the same add and message. how did you pull that off? >> no, this is, you know, something that we built trust with the community and spanish language and they have take an approach to form the community and it's the work that we have done and just to correct one thing we're work being the

partners with one arizona and others in the state of arizona to register 100,000 and mostly latinos to come out to vote, but this is an unprecedented effort that competitors are coming together to air a thousand aeds from now to election day and keep keep the community informed and get them register today vote early and vote on election day. this investment is to make sure that we fill the gap interests that the community is informed about the issue and solutions that we're talking about and assuring that we keep them aaaccountable. >> thank you if he would direct torks thank you for helping us understand your word tonight. >> thank you. still not done. live here with us tonight. stay with us.

there are a identify stras, there are a identify stras, but they're done and now we know what the outcome of that entire process and it turns out that the there's a super surprising and very funny bottom line this

year and one that nobody expected and that could not have happened to a nicer guy and that story is next.

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this kind of snuck up on us but the primaries that happened last night marked the season for this year. there are a handful of states and i think six states that are left to vote that have some primaries here and there and there are no members of congress that are facing incredible challenges in the state. the closest is senator ayott and does face a challenge but up by 20 points and going to be fine. it's really over in terms of congressional primaries. and for all of the talk of this year being the year of the outside skper how donald trump inspired wave would sweep away, turns out that this was not that. this entire season we can say

only five members of congress lost. no senators and five members of congress. of the five two of them were in republicans that were in district that moved that or changed shapes. ugs cannot blame them. two of them were democrats that lost because in both instances they were facing 20 plus criminal charges fe e time of the primary. they were both under indictment for 20 counts each. that's four of the five & there's only one other and that was tim's camp. chairman of the tea party caucus and so annoy that had they kicked him off the committees and the one that was ranked number one part son member of congress and number one out of 435.

when the camp realized that he was going to lose on primary night he threw all supporters out of the watch party and would not speak to any of them. he said that night at the

this is what donald trump sounds like when he's in mexico -- >> so many friends, so many friends coming to mexico and in mexico i'm proud to say how many people i employ. mr. president, i want to thank you. it's been a tremendous honor. and i call you a friend. thank you. >> and this is what he sounds like back home. >> when do we beat mexico, at the border. they're laughing at us at our stupidity. and now they're beating us economically. they are not our friend, believe me. >> let's talk about friend. >> after a last-minute trip to mexico, donald trump doubles down on