keep the house. it's going to be okay. he believed it would be okay. he said i'm going down to wilmington, i'll be back in a year. i'll come home every weekend but i'll be back in a year and bring everybody down. looking back on it as a young adult i thought that must have been hard for him to tell me and my brothers but it must have been even harder to walk into my grand pop's pantry and say "ambrose, the father of four men, four boys and my mother and swallow your pride and say can you take care of jean and the kids for a year but i promise i'll pay you back?" from that moment on even though i was in fourth grade when we moved, spent a lot of time going back home to scranton.

my dad would say -- and at first i didn't understand it -- but he would repeat all the time what you guys feel in your bones. he'd say "joey, a job is about more than a paycheck, it's about your dignity, it's about respect, it's about your place in the community. it's about who you are. my grandfather finnegan, "joey, remember, nobody's better than you. you can do anything anyone else can do." [ applause ] our parents meant it. we learned about resilience. we learned about success is not about whether you get knocked down but about how quickly you get up. that's who we are. we get up, we don't break, we don't bend, we get up.

that was my neighborhood. that's your neighborhood. and that's who the hell we are. look what you did. you got back up. you're now selling 17 million cars a year. [ cheers and applause ] made in america. the most ever. you're making the best damn cars in the world. that's not joe biden pro labor, that's a simple natural fact, american workers are three times as productive by every study as asian workers are. >> joe biden in warren, ohio, at a union meeting campaigning for hillary clinton. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. tracking a whirlwind 24 hours on the campaign trail for donald trump. it began with that flight to mexico and ending right now with a rally in wilmington, ohio. along the way trump entering into a social media squabble

with mexican president enrique pena kn pena nieto over who would pay for the border wall wiping away any doubt that he was not softening on immigration. and in front of the american legion national convention, the crowd hillary clinton addressed on wednesday, he said this. >> we will have an honest government that includes an honest state department not pay for play. she probably didn't mention that to you yesterday. >> now donald trump in wilmington, ohio, back to the wall. more red meat moments ago. [ crowd chanting "build that wall" ] >> don't worry, we're going to build that wall. it's going to go up.

[ cheers and applause ] we're going to build the wall, mexico's going to pay for the wall, we're going to stop drugs from coming in. >> nbc's katy tur is in ohio where, of course, donald trump has been speaking. katy, which donald trump is showing up? i guess today it's the donald trump, the red meat donald trump on immigration, not the donald trump who was trying to be more diplomatic but that apparently backfired with the mexican president last night. >> it's interesting, this morning at the american legion donald trump did appear to be a little bit more diplomatic when he spoke about the mexican president, spoke about mexico and spoke about relations with the two countries. but today in front of a rally crowd, a crowd that's come here because they support donald trump's red meat rhetoric, he's back to the "don't worry, i'm going to build a wall and mexico is going to pay for it." it's a war of words between trump and the mexican president who came out with an op-ed explaining and defending why he even met with trump in the first place. at the end of it reiterating

that mexico would not pay for the wall. donald trump ignoring that completely last night and again today. last night saying that they're going to build a wall -- they're going to pay for the wall, they just don't know it yet. so the idea that trump was going to moderate his words is flying out the window depending on which rally or which speech you're watching. it's almost like the morning trump is more moderate and the afternoon or evening trump gets a little bit more hard line. a little bit more red meat focused for his crowds. the question, andrea, is who is he speaking to right now? the campaign needs moderate voters, they need minority voters, they need hispanic voters but this hard-line rhetoric, this immigration talk about deportation forces, about ending sanctuary cities, about making sure that everybody leaves and comes back to reapply no matter the circumstances is only appealing to a small group of people, donald trump's base, mostly white men even his former campaign manager was saying that

that speech last night was supposed to appeal directly towards white men who he's doing quite well with. the question is, is he going to make any real forms of outreach, reach across the aisle to hispanic voters? already this morning a number of people on his hispanic advisory board are talking about quitting over last night's speech. one in particular saying that he felt like he was used, that he felt like he was duped by donald trump, that he doesn't believe in him any longer. so is he going to be able to win the election in november with just the white male vote? well, most experts will tell you that th's probably not going toe case. the question is going forward is he going to try to strad this will line and be both characters at the same time or are we going to start to see more of the primary version of donald trump going forward? >> that is the question, katy tur, thank you so much in progress the very rowdy crowd

and donald trump at that rally right now. carlos gutierrez served as secretary of commerce for president bush. he endorsed hillary clinton this month and joins me now. so you know mexico far better than i do having negotiated with them. we saw donald trump as a i want is yesterday -- supposedly -- how did that work out and how did it work out for mexico's preside president. >> disastrous. probably the worst day of his president. donald trump misrepresented his policy and sweet talked presidentnieto. he talked about regional collaboration, keep jobs in the hemisphere then he came back and blasted mexico. i'm sure every foreign leader is watching this and just looking at how duplicitous it was. >> and pena nieto did an interview last night and was

tweeting saying he had affirmatively told donald trump we're not paying for this wall. donald trump had suggested that it hadn't come up then he tried to explain that away and said last night in his speech they're going to pay for this wall. they may not know it yet but they'll pay for this wall. how does that play out, briefly, for mexico's president? >> there was a moment in a press conference when they started talking about the wall and they asked trump and he said "we didn't talk about it." people wanted pena nieto to say something at that moment and i've talked to many mexican americans who said that was the moment to stand up to trump and he didn't. so the headlines in mexico city are "trump uses pena nieto." it's a very embarrassing day for the mexican president.

>> we have to take what he said? the space of arizona where he was talking again about deportations. >> i think it's national guard this day and age to assume you can go to mexico city and say something different than what you say in arizona. it wasn't just that he was nice pena nieto, he was diplomatic. he misrepresented his policy so you can't do that anymore. it's not as if people aren't watching in the u.s. when he's speaking in the mexico city. >> you mean the wall doesn't prevent telecommunications? >> that's right, the wall doesn't block signals. >> what about the policy itself? a lot of the policy is president obama saying despite the executive order and the legal fighting over his ability over executive orders that he's going to use his discretion to decide which people are criminally liable and should be deported

and there have been massive deportations. hillary clinton has said she would not be as aggressive as this president has been on deportations. but anyone who came in illegally technically has violated the law but it's a different status for someone who had been -- >> it's a misdemeanor to cross the border. there's two factors to his policy. the unrealistic part is this -- you have to leave the country then come back in. that's been around a long time. it's called touchback. some people think that eliminates the amnesty accusation. you leave the country and come back. in the 2006 bill there was a time limit. we'll get you processed in a certain amount of months and we are thinking about building temporary consulates in mexico and other countries in the world because you can't process 12 million people. he didn't talk about how long it will take. it can take 20 years.

and the kids that were born here are u.s. citizens. taking away president obama's executive actions. does that mean he's going to take away daca. >> the dreamers? >> kids who came to this country, no fault of their own a lot of them are nhonor students but couldn't go on to university. >> a lot of them are in our military. >> this is their country. many of them don't even speak spanish. this is their home. so there's a part that's unrealistic and a part that a bit cruel and i would hate that to be a blemish on our country for the rest of history. >> carlos gutierrez, thank you so much. thanks for being with us. arizona republican congressman trent franks attended mr. trump's speech in phoenix and joins me now.

congressman, i think you heard what secretary gutierrez had to say. how will donald trump make this deportation policy work? >> if there's one thing donald trump has gotten right, that is the fundamental necessity to secure the borders so that we mow who is coming in and out of this country just as we have the right and responsibility as family members and as people in this country to know who is coming in and out of our own home, we have a right as a country to know and decide who is coming in and out of our country and he gets that right and focuses on that and says these other things will be prioritized behind that and that's very important. i do a lot of national security considerations and i think the one area of border security that's overlooked is the national security implications. donald trump does not do that. in terms of national security, the notion of hillary clinton being president, andrea, it makes me want to sleep with the lights on, as it should all americans and so the fundamental focus that donald trump has had here is not really any sort of

change, it's a very logical, very common sense approach we secure the border and then we try to sort out how we deal with the rest of in the that environment. >> i wanted to play a little bit of the running mate senator tim kaine on "morning joe" talking about donald trump's speech and get your reaction. >> kind of talking out of both sides of his mouth in a way that i think the diplomacy side of it was kind of embarrassing and then the speech last night was frightening and divisive. this same speech has been given throughout our history against the irish, against italian american immigrants, against jews coming from eastern europe. it is deportation nation and they're all criminals and they're doing horrible things. that is not going to make our country great. >> congressman, how do you work out what many people in business -- many small business owners and agricultural community spokespeople say is we

need these transitional and seasonal workers to make our economy grow and thrive. how do you satisfy these economic impulses? >> that's not inconsistent with donald trump's policy at all. i'm married to an immigrant. she came here 36 years ago and if she leaves i'm going with her. the reality is when we decide as americans who comes in and out of our country it's a different issue than people coming over here and breaking the law and deciding whether they're going to ignore our law and our ideals at will. and the bottom line here is this has become a contest between mrs. clinton and mr. trump on the basis of who do they trust and mrs. clinton has two very important voting demographics that do not trust her. first is american men and secondly is american women the american people simply do not trust hillary clinton and

whatever foibles donald trump might have, they're going to take a straightforward -- even if he talks rough they know in his heart he wants to do what's right for america and they don't trust mrs. clinton. >> in the "washington post"/abc poll that came out yesterday they showed a virtual tie in the unfavorable ratings of both of them. she's ahead of him in the national polling but they both are deeply unpopular, the most unpopular nominees we've ever had. at the same time the clinton campaign accusing donald trump of choking with pena nieto by not bringing up paying for the wall, by not following up on all of his promises, i'm going to go down there and negotiate and actually being not the donald trump he's advertised. >> well, i think this gave donald trump a chance to be seen on the national stage. hillary clinton has emphasized that to a tremendous degree yet when people saw donald trump on this national stage he looked presidential and it was clear he could handle that job and i think it's been something

that -- instead of being a bad week for him it's been an excellent week for donald trump. they were here last night, he gave a magnificent speech, one that reflects my own perspective to a large degree and this is that simply we care about everyone in this country but we have a right to know who is coming in and decide who is coming in to our country for the sake of being the beacon of freedom, the flagship of freedom for the whole world, it's important that we do that. and hillary clinton does not see people coming over our borders illegally as illegal immigrants or as people or human beings, she sees them as unregistered democrats and if we don't understand that as an american electorate we simply misunderstand the dynamics of this election. >> congressman frank, thank you very much for being with us today. >> thank you, andrea, very much. coming up on wednesday, msnbc and nbc news along with iraq and afghanistan veterans of america will most both major party presidential nominees, hillary clinton and donald trump, back to back for a live

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he's made famous, you're fired. you ought to come from a household where some people were fired. >> hillary clinton's off the trail today. that was, of course, joe biden now still speaking in ohio to a labor group. new polls show that clinton's favorability rating is at an all time low, virtually tied with donald trump's. the candidate is relying on those surrogates to carry her message today. thein was making the rounds on the morning shows before heading to new hampshire. he's in dover right now. nbc news's kasie hunt covering joe biden in warren, ohio, biden's first stop there today. kasie, this is joe from scranton, classic joe biden, talking about all those working class blue-collar labor towns that you know well in pennsylvania and ohio and this is the heart and soul of the democratic strategy in the rust belt. >> that's right, andrea, forgive me, i have to keep my voice down

because the because the vice president is still speaking here but we've seen classic joe biden on display here. he called himself the s.o.b.b. at the family picnic who insisted they bail out the auto industry as he was talking about republican policies, the audience here clearly feels a lot of affection for him and he really is in many ways hillary clinton's best messenger to the voters of this area. this has been historically the backbone of democratic statewide wins in ohio and it's turning into trump country and people are concerned about how the region has changed. now hillary clinton is way ahead in the polls so this is where donald trump has to win if he has any hope of winning the presidency but clearly ohio, the rust belt very important to her and the question for democrats, are a lot of people that have voted for them in past years going to flip over and vote for

donald trump? more than they expect, maybe. that's what him being here is all about. >> and tim kaine in new hampshire today. earlier today he was on "morning joe" he was on the "today" show. this was his exchange on "today." >> if you look at the side-by-side of this week donald trump went to mexico, he sat down, he had a dignified meeting with a foreign leader. hillary clinton has spent most of this week scooping up money in the hamptons for fund-raisers. doesn't trump come out on top of that? >> i don't think so. just do the contrast. the 24 hours of yesterday donald trump choked on the fundamental promise that he's making in this campaign. >> hillary clinton still, kasie, as you know well, campaigning in the last two weeks, one public event a week. she was in reno where you were. then she was in ohio where i was yesterday. aside from that, doing a lot of

fund-raising, probably debate prep. she left her house in chappaqua today destination unknown. no coverage and no interactions with reporters. >> that's very different than what we've seen for this time frame where there's often a lot of fund-raising but where typically reporters are in protective pools with the candidates day in and day out donald trump is why the clinton campaign says hey, donald trump is down the road today? cincinnati giving a speech and instead of having the candidate they have vice president joe biden. obviously a strong messenger in this area but it's not the same as having the candidate out. >> kasie hunt, thank you very much. reporting in from ohio. coming up, the voter file. we're going to go beyond the polls with an exclusive inside look at who the voters really

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we are unveiling a special report from our nbc news election unit which we're calling the voter file, giving you a closer look at the behavior of real voters. nbc partnered with target smart, a data research company, which tracks every registered voter in america. our election team took a deep dive into who voted in eight battleground state which is could be critical for determining the outcome in november. the record turnout in the republican primaries is something donald trump likes to take credit for. >> i'm very, very proud of millions and millions of people have come to the republican part over the last little while. they've come to the republican party and, by the way, the democrats are losing, people. this is a trend that's taking place, it's the biggest thing happening in politics and i'm very proud to be a part of it. >> but is this true?

joining me now is nbc's director of elections, john la pinskipine man with the numbers. let's look at the presidential primary voters in battleground states and if you can take a look right there on these bar graphs, on the democratic side, yes, not as many voters as on the republican side. and the battleground states alone we have nearly 11 million voters casting ballots in republican primaries compared to 8.8 million. what have you learned? >> thanks, andrea. as we're coming into the final stretch of the campaign, one of the big things everybody is interested in is who are these voters turning out in the general election. one of the big claims that donald trump had made in the pry mairs was that he was expending the electorate for the republicans and what we want to figure south is that actually

true. we did, like you said, a deep dive into the key battleground states out there and what we saw -- at first glance what it looked like was that, wow, the republicans have a couple more, 2.2 million people turning out in their primaries but what we found when we looked at the numbers was the democrats had more new voters so when we look at the overall numbers we see a lot of the voters on the republican and democratic side voted previousfully a general election and usually that means they'd vote again. the question is where there new voters brought into the fold? and the answer is, yes for both sides but more for the democrats. >> and let's talk about by age. who are these new voters? >> that's the interesting thing. on the democratic side they really brought in more younger voters and the republicans brought in older voters because

one of the challenges clinton has is the younger voters, many of whom supported sanders in the primaries, will they turn out? . so net advantage to the democrats but l they turn out? we know older voters turn out at a higher rate. >> what about gender? >> the gender gap that we see in voting at the presidential level we see in new voters also so we see considerably more females in the new voter batch for the democrats comred to the republican republicans. >> and these are the data that republicans are using with their own analytics. >> exactly. so instead of relying on campaigns to tell us, we have access via target smart to the exact same data that they're looking at. so you can see in the realtime and see who are these voters that are turning out early, who

has the net advantage in new registrations. all the calculus that parties are doing, we can do it ourselves and really do a deep dive on assessing how the race is turning out. >> john lipinski, you are the brains of the operation and having you with us throughout this campaign season, we've been benefitting from it all along. now we're bringing viewers and readers into this as well. so we're indeed the place for politics going forward. >> thank you. >> thank you, john. coming up, border check. how realistic is donald trump's immigration plan? former arizona governor janet napolitano joining me next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. l one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business...

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[ boos ] homeland security and the department of justice to begin a comprehensive review of these cases in order to develop a list of regions and countries from which immigration must be suspended until proven and effective vetting mechanisms can be put in place. i call it extreme vetting. >> donald trump talking tough on immigration in arizona, again calling for extreme voting of immigrants. trump pivoted back to his hardline on immigration after briefly appearing to soften his tone while in mexico a few hours earlier. joining me now is former secretary of homeland security and former democratic arizona governor janet napolitano. these days the president of the great university of california system. thank you very much. good to see you, madam secretary. >> good morning. >> let's talk about extreme vetting. what did you not do when you were homeland security secretary and what is not being done now that donald trump could do with

"extreme vetting"? how would it work? >> it's a mystery in terms of what he's talking about. there is vetting that is done overseas. there's vetting that is done at different layers. i think what he's talking about is ideological screening. you know, are you going to be american if you immigrate to the united states? and that's -- that's just something that we don't do and it's just unworkable. >> well, there was testimony by some of the top officials, homeland, fbi, that there are gaps in the system back i think months ago to a senate committee which led to a lot of this criticism that we're letting in the syrian refugees -- it was after san bernardino and after other events that led to accusations of terrorism, especially from civil war refugees from syria. >> yes. and you know you can always improve what you're doing. and i wouldn't suggest

otherwise. but i think where mr. trump is going is a whole different level that really won't improve on anything other than, say, well, we're going to have ideological tests for coming into the united states. it's sort of like his other ideas, building a wall, eliminating the president's executive orders, protecting young people, vx, all of these things that really don't improve on the immigration system, but we have now kind of whiplashed back from is this the kinder gentler mr. trump or the hard-liner mr. trump? >> if you created a special deportation force within ice, how would that work? how could you find -- he says find the criminals and he hasn't defined criminal. are these the people who violated -- committed a misdemeanor by coming in illegally? are these the people who have been guilty of violeolent crime

that he has been talking about in each of his stops? >> well, listen, already in immigration and customs enforcement, in ice priorities were set and has been set to focus on those who have committed serious felonies, to focus on them for deportation. i think he's talking about any level of crime traffic offenses, loitering and the like that you quickly run into areas of racial profiling by example and he was with maricopa county sheriff joe arpaio yesterday as you saw. as you know, joe arpaio has been referred to the department of justice for racial profiling. so in our country where we do have immigrants we welcome legal immigrants and we have an immigration that allows for the talents, those young people, whatever, to be here.

the notion of a force kind of walking around looking for people with traffic offenses and loitering and the like, i'm not sure that's consistent with american values. >> what about violent criminals? donald trump has brought out the so-called angel moms, and they come and speak at his rallies and it's so affecting. these are people that have lost their children or spouses, lost loved ones to criminal behavior, to murders committed by undocumented people. >> those are powerful and i think we extend our feelings for them that their loved ones have been the victim of violent crime. i think we have to be careful going from individual cases to critiques of the entire immigration system. in the last seven years of the obama administration and before under the -- when i was governor

of arizona we have the recognize our borders are living breathing thi things, it's a port of entry, that's a good thing, job creator and border communities. we don't view it just as a physical wall. that's not the way a border works. >> janet napolitano, great to see you again, thanks for being with us. >> you bet. coming up, role reversal, two sides of the border, two different sides of donald trump. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc, t the pe for politics. it's a skill. and like anything else, you can get better. that's why we have tools that show you what happens if you forgot to pay a bill. and answers to questions like, what's the difference between a fico score and other scores? get the tools. and get better at managing your credit. go to experian.com to enroll in experian creditworks today.

donald trump is in ohio today after that whirlwind 48 hours trying to pull off a difficult balancing act, trying to play the role of serious statesman in mexico then bringing down the hammer on immigration in a fiery speech in arizona. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and founder of the "washington post" "fix" block.

maria theresa kumar an msnbc contributor and "usa today's" immigration reporter alan gomez. welcome all. maria teresa i was watching you talking with rachel maddow talking after donald trump's immigration speech and i wanted to give you a chance to sound off because you were passionate about what you heard and how it struck you. >> listening to donald trump as an american was chilling, andrea. because he was basically talking in dog-whistle politics that everybody knows, talking about a history that perhaps has not been the brightest in our country. some of the stuff that he was talking about was basically, as you mentioned, this idea of extreme street ivetting, a depo task force, ideological certification, that should make americans on edge because what you're condoning is racial profiling. the fact he wants to take away birth right citizenship should alarm everybody because you're

not goidoing it for all america you're doing it for a group of people and when he was in mexico he was talking about undocumented and immigration as a human aaron iitarian issue, tt he reached arizona he talked about doubling down and making sure undocumented people will pay. he basically said that police officers know exactly what to look for, no, they don't. that's one of the reasons why the justice department repudiates sheriff ar popaio, repudiated jan brewer because she had the show me your pain legislation. i can only imagine allies of the latino american community feeling so uncomfortable after that energy left the building. >> alan gomez, what about the facts and fiction of this? how does this work given the fact there is a flat line of immigration coming in from mexico? >> that's one of the problems a

lot of have with trump's immigration proposals. what he outlined last night, the ten points of it, pretty much what he released about a year ago when he released an immigration plan but we're missing massive details on how this will be done. congress approves enough money for the obama administration or any president to deport about 400,000 people a year. but trump is saying he would deport two million people a year, how he does that without congressional approval we have no idea. his idea of building this giant great massive wonderful wall, again, this is something that estimates have run up into the $20 billion, $25 billion range in terms of finishing it. we have no idea how he would get the money to do it and a lot of these policies we're trying to figure out what he means. i don't know if he intends to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants, he said she would either have to go back home but at the end he said well, maybe the ones that are left after we're done with the immigration enforcement parts of

this maybe we'll consider what to do with them. so the hard part is trying to figure out what is exact and possib possible. >> chris cillizza, did donald trump win the news cycle by showing up in mexico, the surprise visit, showing he can do two things at once or does he lose it because they are inherently inconsistent? meanwhile hillary clinton except for one speech this week and last week she's isolated, in a bubble. >> well, hillary clinton, i think is -- has decided she's going to let donald trump talk as much as donald trump would like once this fund-raising ends she will do more events in targeted states but i think you'll gate very milk toast -- she's going to stick very closely to the script because she views this race as hers to lose. i think donald trump winds up -- speaking of losing, i think donald trump winds up losing the day yesterday because of the man

i canness -- if he ends the day after meeting with the mexican president i think he has one of his better days in quite a while but, of course, he doesn't. the man i canness of the appearance with the mexican president versus the tone. forget the policies which i know is hard to do but the tone of that speech was angry. there was a snarl. he yelled a fair amount of it. that is wonderful if you are already supportive of him, ann colter, sean hannity, lots of people around the country are already trump supporters, the problem is we know from poll after poll after poll there simply are not enough of those people. so his task is not rallying his base of support, it's unifying republicans and then finding ways to reach out. i don't think that speech last night did either of those things. >> at the same time, the polls are narrowing and hillary clinton's lead narrowing in the head to heads in all the polls

as well as the increase in her unfavorability ratings, now they're virtually tied there. >> you are right. i think a it wille of that is to be expected. i don't think anyone thought she was going to win the election by 14 points nationally which anything in double digits -- which anything post-convention showed, her bounce has worn off. this is a deeply polarized and divided country and she is not terribly well liked and not trust trusted many people look for a reason to vote for someone other than her, donald trump i think didn't give them one. >> to chris cillizza and our friends any teresa kumar and alan gomez, thank you so much. now for something truly uplifted. congressman john lewis has always been an inspiration but last night on the "late show" with stephen colbert he got a lift of his own crowd surfing the studio audience. john lewis, one of a kind. you work at ge?

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tropical storm hermine is taking strength at florida today. janet shamlian is there in apalachicola, is that correct? >> apalachicola, yes. it's a learning curve for me as well, andrea. this is one of the areas that is going to be hard hit. we're already having heavy rain bands. i'm standing at a boat dock, the water has come up four inches in the last two hours. by the numbers, 51 counties in the state of florida under a state of emergency, the governor of florida came on, doubled down urging people to make their precautions now, not tonight, not at midnight when the storm is expected to come on shore. georgia just declared a state of emergency for a number of counties there, what are the threats? the storm surge, five to eight feet in this area which could be devastating for some of these homes that sit on the water.

there is the threat of tornados and they will likely be wrapped by rain meaning they will be difficult to see and the storm will come in in the evening hours so the entire area is on alert right now and rightly so. >> janet shamlian, thank you so much. moments ago, vice president joe biden spoke to facesy hunt at a rope line on a campaign event in warren, ohio. he defended the clinton foundation and hillary clinton. let's listen. >> hillary clinton is not out here on the trail. you're here in ohio. do you think she needs to be out front with the american people more? >> she is out front with the american people. >> she's been fund-raising for a couple weeks. >> well, she has to. but she's been doing a lot of events and i told her i'd campaign with her in scranton, we have a whole bunch of places we ear campaigning together and some places where maybe i can help and not have her have to be with me.

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resignations from his hispanic advisors after delivering that especially hard stance on immigration in arizona. donald trump in southwest ohio where moments ago he revved up a crowd with a talk about precisely how his immigration policies will protect jobs. >> another major part of our agenda is immigration security. we need to protect american jobs, security and safety. [ crowd chanting "build that wall" ] don't worry, we're going to build that walthal. that wall will go up. >> vice president joe biden was in ohio. he campaigned for hillary clinton telling nbc news why she's been off the campaign trail. he ao