fanned out covering this thing. let's start on the florida panhandle, and apalachicola where gabe gutierrez is surveying the aftermath. gabe, what are you seeing? >> reporter: hi, craig. good morning. yes, as you mentioned, hermine now a tropical storm slammed into florida's panhandle overnight, downing trees and almost 200,000 people across several states without power. as you mentioned, craig, parts of georgia and north carolina now also under a state of emergency. overnight, hurricane hermine slammed into florida's panhandle, packing winds of up to 80 miles per hour. this morning, storm surge and the possibility of isolated tornadoes, even as hermine is downgraded to a tropical storm. >> this is life-threatening. >> yeah, we're going to lose a power line here. >> reporter: the system knocking out power to tens of thousands. >> welcome to florida. >> reporter: and flooding neighborhoods along florida's

gulf coast. >> he's got it! >> reporter: near apalachicola, mandatory evacuations, despite the risk, rex and cindy whiteman chose to stay and ride out the storm. >> we have done everything we can to prepare and it's too hard to pack up and leave. so -- and this is home z. the last hurricane to strike florida was wilma in 2005, a powerful category 3 storm that killed five people. today the threat from hermine extending up the east coast, parts of georgia and north carolina under a state of emergency. dangerous rip currents expected through the holiday weekend. >> we're always worried, sure. yeah. what you do what you can do, and hope for the best. >> reporter: authorities here in florida are now assessing the damage here in the pan handle. but craig, as you know, the concern now is the storm moving east and north, georgia and south carolina and up and down the east coast, dangerous rip

currents, as well as tropical storm warnings and watches really up a large portion of the east coast, craig. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you. let's get to florida's capital of tallahassee, about an hour, roughly half hour north of where hermine made landfall. weather channel meteorologist maria larosa is there. >> reporter: 24 hours ago, it was calm before the storm. some clouds rolling in as tropical storm hermine approached the coast and then upgraded to a hurricane. it came over tallahassee as an 80-mile-an-hour hurricane. and at this point, we were talking about a situation where this area has not had to deal with that in years. the result, though, now that the sun is up in the aftermath we're talking about a lot of downed trees, tens of thousands without power. a lot of the power companies saying it is reasonable to think that maybe in 24 hours, a lot of these -- those areas could have power up and running again. the big concern the next few hours, still the gusty winds to 25 miles per hour. that will keep the tree

situation a little bit shaky here with the number of trees down, as well. but also use caution as people are heading out on the roadways. a lot of debris, you get a sense of that with the park behind me. the next few hours, tropical storm hermine on its way, it's about cleanup and recovery here in tallahassee. craig, back to you. >> maria larosa there in tallahassee, thank you. let's check in with al roker, closely tracking this storm. al, what are we seeing right now, sir? >> well, craig, the storm as you look now, we have -- shifting our attention now to the southeast atlantic coast. you can see that swirl right now. there is the storm. and this area in pink, these are the tornado watches, because whenever you have a poet tent system like this, come onshore, you have to worry about tornadoes. smallner scale, but still can do a lot of damage. this is our latest, hermine, 120 west-southwest of savannah. 60-mile-an-hour winds, north-northeast at 14 miles per hour. so here's the track. and we have been talking about this thing for 16 days.

one of those invest 99-l. by saturday afternoon, it's off the carolina coast. and it is now below -- just about category 1 -- should say, a tropical storm. but it's still hanging around as we get into wednesday morning. look at this. we call this the cone of uncertainty. because we have to keep an eye on that. because it could go anywhere within this cone. boston, new york, atlantic, salisbury, cape charles. this is wednesday morning. so we have to watch this. and what it's going to do right now, we've got storm surges still -- i think these storm surges will start to really lesson in tampa, and along the west coast of florida. where we're concerned now is really from florida, georgia, on into the tide water of virginia. 1 to 3 feet of water piling up. as i mentioned, the possibility of tornadoes, well from savannah all the way to the outer banks, we could be looking at tornadoes through tonight, as this system passes. and with trees still fully in bloom with lots of leaves, a lot

of wind, you could see a lot of power outages. so we could up to 12 million people affected by those. we're going to watch that very closely. and the rain is a big, big deal. we're talking about a flood threat, 5 to 10 inches of rain from georgia into southeastern virginia. but 10 to 15 inches of rain in the eastern carolinas. tropical weather warnings and watches stretch from florida all the way up into new jersey. as we watch this. and rip currents. a lot of folks going to the beach this weekend. the risk is for most of the east coast. and this is a danger level for all swimmers. you have to be careful. but the big thing, craig, is as itch i said, we're going to be talking about this next week, sitting off the coast. beach erosion a problem. and once it's out there -- and no real steering currents. this could oscillate and wobble closer to the coast. so as we watch it come through, we're really going to be nervous about this. once it gets into the open waters of the atlantic.

because then all bets are off. it could do almost anything. so we'll continue to track it. but as i said, it's a long ranging system. >> al roker with a close look at what we can expect here over the next few days as a result of hermine. al, thanks, as always, sir. enjoy the weekend. let's get to the other big story we're following here. politics, of course. hillary clinton remains off the public campaign trail today. donald trump just left trump tower on his way to receive his second classified intelligence briefing. the gop nominee also under fire again this morning for what appears to be yet another shift in his stance on immigration. wednesday, you might remember, he laid out some strict policy proposals, including a new deportation task force inside i.c.e. he said there would be no amnesty, no path to citizenship for the millions of undocumented immigrants in this country. now he says a trump administration will figure out precisely how to handle

nonviolent immigrants at a time to be determined. >> we're going to get rid of all of the bad players that are here. the gang members, the gang leaders, the drug dealers. after that takes place, which will be a process and won't go that quickly, but it will go as quickly as any human being can do it. after that takes place, we're going to sit back, we're going to assess the situation. we're going to see where we are. because we'll have people in the country that, you know, have come in illegally. we're going to sit back, we're going to assess the situation. we're going to make a decision at that time. >> nbc's katy tur outside trump tower this morning. let's talk immigration here. it's hard to keep track of just how many stances we've seen and heard from donald trump over the past week or two. of where are we now? >> reporter: well, what you just heard. he's going to sit back and assess the situation once he gets into office, if he gets into office. after they have done the immediate deportation of what

they're calling criminal undocumented immigrants, those that have committed crimes on top of coming into this country. that is not necessarily very different than what we're doing right now with president obama, not necessarily very different from the plans the republicans put forward during the primaries. sitting back and assessing the situation does in a sense seem like he's leaving the idea open to a path to legalization. now trump and the campaign has said we -- no path to legalization in the past. they have said no amnesty. donald trump has talked about deportation forces. but every time he said those things, he has come out the next day or maybe an hour or two later and said, no, it's actually a softening and we're going to figure out what we do when we get into office. so it's not concrete right now and that's why there are so many questions surrounding just exactly what he is for and what he is against. the campaign is not, frankly, providing a lot of clarity. >> katy, i also understand there has been a new addition at the highest levels of the campaign.

what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: yeah, a new deputy campaign manager, his name is david bossy, president of citizens united. you might remember citizens united from the supreme court decision that enabled almost run-away spending from corporations on political ads. david bossy taking a leave of absence from citizens united, but it's important to note that he has been a very vehement liang tie clinton conservative now for decades, going back to the '90s when he was a congressional staffer involved in trying to look into clinton finances. he has written books against the clnts, he produced a documentary or a move against the clintons, so it is an indication the campaign is going full force in trying to get people on board who know about the clintons for the past decades, and know which ways that they would like to attack her. it also is an example -- an indication there is going to be no holds barred when it comes to going up against hillary clinton

in a debate setting. >> katy tur outside trump tower in new york. thank you. there was this interesting moment on thursday night here at msnbc. the founder of the group, latinos for trump, all-in. he had a surprise prediction if donald trump is not elected president. here was that moment. >> we need to understand that this is -- this is a different time and we're having problems here. >> what problems? what problems are you talking about? >> my culture is a very dominant culture. and it's impulsive and it's causing problems. if you don't do something about it, you're going to have taco trucks at every corner. >> that was the moment. so we should note here, we had actually invited mr. gutierrez there to come back on. he had accepted our invitation as of ten minutes ago. he just cancelled on us. we wanted to give him an opportunity to clarify, perhaps, precisely what it was that he

meant. if he is watching or listening and changes his mind, the invitation is still extended. meanwhile, msnbc political analyst, host of the "hugh hewitt show" joins us on a friday. he did not cancel. you heard marco gutierrez there, sir. your reaction to that. >> that's unacceptable rhetoric, in my position. i live in southern california, craig, half the year. i serve on boards in santa ana, which has the highest population of mexican-americans outside of mexico, and mexicans outside of mexico. and i think it's just crazy to talk like that. and i also -- i will take a little bit of issue with coverage about trump. i think trump has moved to where republicans have been generally. security first, get rid of the bad actors, regular rise, but don't vote. it's not that complicated. i believe he had a very good week, and i think the reason that hillary clinton is in hiding is because -- and donald trump is talking is he has a message and she has questions she doesn't want to answer.

>> hugh, it is -- but you have to admit, he seems to be muddling the message a bit. there was this ten-point plan he laid out and then we heard him on o'reilly last night. what you're saying, it sounds like enforcement and legalization. that's what mainstream republicans have been saying for a very long time. and it sounds like that's what donald trump is hinting at, enforcement, then legalization. why not just say enforcement then legalization? >> he did. i listened to every minute of the speech on -- the other night and then came on "hardball" with steve kornacki afterwards. i made the point that back to the position followed by regularization, not amnesty, and he's not going to allow citizenship when voting when people enter the country illegally. i don't think it's mystical. he left a paragraph out of his speech. he's talking and i think most americans get where he is, which begins with the fence, and they

understand where hillary is, which begins with the executive orders and she picks up where president obama left off, which is amnesty by executive order not with consultation of congress. big difference. i think it will matter in the fall. >> the administration has said it's priority enforcement. that it's not amnesty, it's not realistic to think that you're going to be able to go around and round up 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country. how is -- how is priority enforcement different from what donald trump is now saying he would do? >> well, it was very interesting about the trump speech. he emphasized the rule of law, craig. what president obama did with the executive orders was to act unilaterally in an area that has always been within the domain of congress under its article 1 powers to control. and what president obama did was throw down and say, i'm just going to naturalize or legalize all these millions of people on my whim. that's been rebuked by the fifth circuit upheld and by a 4-4 split supreme court. and i think the american people will reject unilateralism by the

president. if i could, i think it's important he's out there talking. not so much what he says, but the contrast with hillary clinton. she has had five terrible days of news. beginning with the "los angeles times," gilbert shoe gory, the finding of new benghazi e-mails she didn't release. the politico story about bill clinton's abuse of taxpayer money for the office of the former president. and then today in the "new york times," another pay for play story with the dow chemical corporation leading into another one at circa.com about the fbi making a referral to state to prosecutor investigate her abuse of the federal records act. she can't come out of hiding, craig, because every day is another drip, drip, drip of scandal for hillary clinton. so i think you'll see donald trump continue to take questions on every program and every venue and from our own lester holt in the first debate. that was announced today. that's good news. >> that is fantastic news, that

debate here in new york. >> and she has got no practice. i mean, she's going to arrive and lester is going to look at her and she's not going to have practiced at all, taking the tough where he question whereas donald trump is doing it every day. >> so hugh, am i right to believe that you think donald trump is going to reign supreme in these debates? >> i think it's a completely unknown. i was on four debate panels with him. each one was a different experience. it's a roller coaster. and he throws complete, complete right angles at you when you expect to go in a left angle. who knows what they're going to be like. they'll get huge audiences. the debate presidential -- presidential debate moderators are all new. if you look at chris wallace and anderson cooper and lester holt, they're all extraordinary professionals. they'll be very well-prepared for whatever happens. i think the pressure is on hillary clinton. the real clear politics index is closing in on her. started seven points a week ago. it's at 4.5 lead today. her negatives have gone to 59%

in the "usa today" poll. donald trump at 61%. she is crashing. he is staying at the same kind of low level. it's a question of what will break in the next two months. >> hugh hewitt, always good to have you, msnbc political analyst, host, of course, "hugh hewitt show." enjoy the holidays, sir. >> thank you. breaking news. the former stanford swimmer jailed for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman now free. he served just half of his sentence. we are live outside the california courthouse. next. mom, i have to tell you something. dad, one second i was driving and then the next... they just didn't stop and then... i'm really sorry. i wrecked the subaru. i wrecked it. you're ok. that's all that matters.

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hillary clinton's campaign is out with a new video, tearing into donald trump's visit to members co.

the campaign says trump embarrassed the united states on the world stage after getting shut down by mexico's president. the democratic nominee herself continues some time off the public campaign trail. but her surrogates are out in force. running mate, tim kaine, vice president joe biden both making numerous stops across key battleground states. thursday was the first time we saw the vice president on the trail by himself. and he ripped into donald trump, the only way joe biden can. >> i know i'm not supposed to get angry, but i'm so sick and tired of hearing people like trump and the chamber of commerce, the national chamber, talking about we get paid too much. that we don't -- give me a break! give me a break. this is a guy born with a civil spoon in his mouth that now he's chewing on because his foot is in his mouth along with the spoon. >> kristen walker covering the clinton campaign. let's start with hillary clinton hasn't had this formal press

conference in nearly 300 days. but as i understand it, now, she is going to soon making herself a bit more available to reporters, is that right? >> reporter: we hope so. i spoke with one of her top campaign officials who said she is going to be holding a press conference soon. and we're hoping that there will be more of those in the final two months of the campaign, but the other big news on that front, craig, is that she will be on a plane with her press corps. that starts on monday. so we'll try to get as many questions to her as possible. on that plane. you're right, though. she has had some time off the campaign trail. that has in large part been to fund-raise. she brought in more than $140 million last month. her biggest monthly haul yet. that gives her a pretty big war chest heading into this final stretch. and then she has also been doing some debate prep, really focusing on going through her policy positions, donald trump's. but narrowing her answers. so that they are in crisp, clear sound bites, easily digestible for voters. and then as you pointed out, craig, she has been slamming

donald trump, even though she hasn't been on the trail every single day. and the latest comes in this new ad, taking aim at him for not bringing up the signature piece of his immigration policy, which is building this wall. he said he didn't negotiate with the mexican president about that. and then, of course, after he left the mexican president said he made it pretty clear he's not going to be paying for that wall. so the clinton campaign not letting up on that front. secretary clinton set to join the trail again on monday. by the way, bernie sanders is also going to be on the campaign trail, stumping in new hampshire, craig. >> ah! increa kristen welker, thanks as always. enjoy your weekend. >> you too. with me now, political analyst, six-term governor of vermont, howard dean. vicks six terms. i don't think a lot of people realize that. of. >> how are you? thanks for having me on. >> reporter: thanks are fok with me. this week we had donald trump in mexico. joint news conference with the president of mexico, gave that

major speech on immigration the same night in phoenix. held campaign stops in five states in five days. where is hillary clinton? >> yeah, that's what he told them. where is -- where is hillary clinton? i'm just trying to fiddle with this ear phone here for a second. hillary is raising money. i get this game plan having done this myself. entirely. you raise your money early. so you don't have to take time off the trail. late in the game. to catch up or to do extra things that are unexpected, always always. always something unexpected in the campaign. she wants to be financially ready for that. >> so not as hugh hewitt suggested a few minutes ago, it's not that she is hiding, it's that she is building this war chest so when september -- post labor day rolls around, she can crisscross the country, rallieses, press conferences, public events. >> right. and the other rule in politics, when the opposition is making a

fool out of itself, you don't want to get in that picture. just let them continue to do it. trump goes to mexico, makes an idiot out of himself, not because he based badly when he was there, but because he lied. when he got back and was contradicted by the mexican president. if that kind of stuff happens to a sitting president, it's usually classified as a disaster. and this was a pretty disaster -- if there is any inkling of what donald trump would be like as president, it's just another reason not to even think about that possibility. >> state department, as you know, going to release hillary clinton's calendars from her time as secretary of state. we're told. we know that the associated press obtained partial records, found more than half these meetings with nongovernment employees also happened to be top donors to the foundation. how worried are you that there could -- there could now be another headline like that, just a few weeks before the election? >> there will be tons of headlines like this. there this is what the republicans want, and this is what an intelligently lazy press

does. look, the secretary of state is on the board of the red cross automatically. does that mean all the people she sees that might be involved with the red cross are somehow involved with corruption? this is a nonstory. this is ridiculous. the clinton foundation has done great things. i happen to be the points of light foundation, george w. bush's foundation. neil bush working for them his entire time that george w. bush was in the presidency. i see nothing untoward about that. the points of light foundation is doing fantastic work around the world. so is the clinton foundation. the press is obsessed with this notion of equivalent see. going to mexico and making an idiot out of yourself. those are not equivalencees. >> so you don't see any problem with the relationship, real or perceived, that a future president of the united states might have with the foundation.

>> she has clearly said she's going to get off the board -- her husband is going to get off the board and chelsea can run it. so we should penalize chelsea and the 100 million people helped by the clinton foundation, because of the obsession of cable division? i don't think so. >> so this idea that -- may have mentioned there is a possibility, they could scale back the work that the foundation does, perhaps allowing some other groups to do some of the aids work, hiv work they have been doing in africa? you think that's a bad idea. >> no, i think that's a fine idea. but that's how it works now. much was made of the $32 million contribution that came from the royal family in bahrain. that money never actually went to the clinton foundation. it was a contribution through the clinton foundation for education of students in various places, including the united states. this is outrageous to even be talking about this. this is ridiculous. >> former governor, howard dean, we'll leave it there, sir. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> enjoy the weekend. breaking news right now.

this is video of donald trump just arriving at the federal building for his second intelligence briefing. just getting this in. the republican nominee again, as we reported yesterday, kelly o'donnell broke the news yesterday he is set to receive that intelligence briefing. it appears as if that is in the process of happening as we speak. we'll stay on top of this. have more on it just ahead. we are now just five days away from next week's prime time commander in chief live from the intrepid sea, air and space museum. msnbc and nbc news teaming up with veterans of america to host hillary clinton and donald trump for a live televised forum. it will be hosted by matt lauer. it's coming up wednesday, september 7th, 8:00 eastern. also breaking news this morning out of california. the stanford swimmer jailed for sexual assault released early. we are live outside the courthouse, next. energy is a complex challenge.

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because of overcrowding in jails. they give what's called good behavior time, and so six months is actually three months. but the outrage was really what that six months sentence. a lot of people angry with the judge. aaron persky, for giving what they called a lenient sentence for a case of felony sexual assault. that we do know that once brock turner arrives back in ohio, where he's expected to go after this, he will have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life and he will also be on probation for about three years. but right now, he has been freed from jail, and we understand he will be heading back to ohio very soon. craig? >> gadi schwartz for us there in california, where brock turner released from that jail several months early for good behavior. gadi, thank you so much, sir. states of emergency declared in three states, tropical storm hermine moving across the southeast as we speak. a live look right now. this is a live look at the

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saturday. the initial plan was for him to speak just to the pastor, not to the congregation. after the "new york times" published details of trump's planned conversation with the church's minister, the campaign changed direction. he will now be speaking to parishioners, as well. tremaine lee is in detroit for us this morning. what are you hearing about the visit, sir? >> i'll tell you what, craig. after this last week, this very strange over at your. trump saying your schools are no good, your neighborhoods are no good, getting shot, what do you have to lose. hoping this visit would offer a different message. yet so many voters say they have been paying closings and can feel the hostility and vitriol from donald trump. his message has been concerning, to say the least. they said that while he's going in front of white audiences, talking about black people, he's not talking to us. and that they don't want -- no longer want to be visible in his

eyes. i spoke with a group of black folks, regular black voters, and here's what they had to say. >> he wants to appeal to ours sense of, i don't know, maybe instability or insecurity in the same way he's appealing to the fears of others, and in hopes this will, i don't know, get him elected? i don't know. >> do you think he's appealing to those insecurities or appealing to a base that might not be reinforcing some notion people have about our communities? >> i think he's trying to play on our insecurities. and that's my problem. you're basically telling us we're helpless without you. but we've always been hearing that. we need some white savior to come save us. we can do it ourselves. >> you're trying to engage us, why not have a rally where black folks can come in, raise our hands and say what we want to say like anybody else. >> is there anything about donald trump's message that resonates with you? >> he's just entertainment. nothing he has holds any value to it for me. >> what we need right now is a sense of connectivity.

i don't think the african-american -- some african-americans don't have that connection with donald trump and what he stands for. and what he believes in, and how he is going to affect change on our behalf. >> reporter: craig, that's what's been so troubling to so many people in this community. that essentially, they have been limited to gunshots, and pathology, and they want to hear more from this candidate. while it would be hard to find many ardent black supporters in a city like detroit, some are hoping at least he comes and hears their voice. >> tremaine lee for us in detroit, michigan, ahead of that visit this weekend by donald trump. tremaine, thank you, as always. i want to bring in sam fullwood, senior fellow at the center for american progress. sam, thanks for joining me, sir. >> glad to be here with you, craig. >> is this highly orchestrated visit, is this something that helps the trump campaign, does it hurt the campaign? with african-american voters,

specifically, or does it make a difference? >> i don't think it makes a difference, one way or another. to be perfectly honest with you. i can't imagine anything that donald trump can say in one church appearance that's going to change the way in which people are already thinking about him. after spending, what, nine months, a year, campaigning, and saying the most horrible and most racist things. i don't think that, you know, an hour, two hours, three hours, four hours in a church is going to change anything. >> also this idea, and tremaine just raised it, this idea where you can talk about people, whether they -- whether they're black people or hispanic people, or, you know, any minority group. you can talk about these people, without actually going to the communities. and talking to those people. does this do anything to change that perception? this visit this weekend? >> well, let's sort of take that apart a little bit. the reason that he has been

successful, if you want to call it that, so far, has been because he has gone into communities where they want to hear the message that he's delivering. and donald trump as the woman said in the interview, he's an entertainer. he understand his crowd. he also understands that you don't go to a hostile crowd and try to entertain them with a schtick they won't buy. i think what he's attempting here could be sort of an entertainment bank shot, where he is going into a black church, into a black community, but his message and his audience is somewhere else. it's going to be the people that would cheer him, wave the flags and all of the things he wants. i don't think he's really going there to try to win votes. >> he's not going to try to win votes. you think this is about conveying to -- undecided white voters, and other parts of the country. hey, i'm not a racist. look. i went to this black church. >> yeah.

no question, craig. that's exactly what this is about. and i think it was -- it's rather evident when you look at the "new york times" story this morning that talks about how he had to be scripted, tightly managed and what he has to say. that was not intended for that audience. but for the cameras. and now, apparently, because that story has come out, they're changing their strategy, and they're going to put him in front of an audience. that's a really risky move for him. because depending on who is in that audience, it could turn hostile. and he's not accustomed to being in front of a hostile challenging audience. >> 12 questions scheduled interview with the church's pastor. bishop wayne jackson specifically scripted answers to questions submitted by the pastor. this is the answer to the first question. our best hope for erasing racial tensions is to work toward a color-blind society. we hire based on merit, but perhaps most important is that

we must provide equal opportunity for a quality education for all americans. what's wrong with that message? >> well, it sounded -- it sounds like it's something that was crafted out of a focus group that is aimed at, as i said, his core constituency. to be able to convince white suburb voters, who, you know -- the only reason he started doing this outreach to latinos and african-americans was when -- after the convention, his poll numbers started to slip. among that core group that has been supporting him. and so i think that that's what this message sounds like. it is a message carefully targeted to his core group, not to change anything with people who aren't already inclined to vote for him. the message on the face of it is just sort of a softer version of what he's been saying all along. but this it's the intent behind and message of who he's sending

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new controversy today, a san francisco 49ers quarterback, colin kaepernick, continues his protest over racial injustice in this country. kaepernick knelt, but declined to stand during last night's performance of the national anthem, prior to the game with the san diego chargers. we should note it was military night at that game. [ booing ] and that is how he was received. kaepernick's action met by both booses and cheers, as well. from both teams. kaepernick explained his actions when he talked to reporters

after the game, once again. >> the message is that we have a lot of issues in this country that we need to deal with. we have a lot of people that are oppressed. we have a lot of people that aren't treated equally. aren't given equal opportunities. police brutality is a huge thing that needs to be addressed. >> host of the edge of sports podcast, always good to see you, my friend. thanks for being with me. >> great to be here. >> colin kaepernick continuing that protest for another game. it looks as if this is something that's going to continue throughout the season. what do you make of it so far, dave? >> well, i think what's so interesting is the consistency of his message. he is saying, this is about police violence and police brutality, and he wants us to have this discussion, and he's legitimately disturbed that there is an acceptance with the status quo, a bipartisan acceptance with the status quo of people dying and there being

no system of accountability when they die at the hands of police. that's why it's so disturbing when this is turned into an issue about kaepernick's patriotism or saying he's anti military, because as he has said himself, not only does this have nothing to do with the military, i'm standing for people like walter scott, who was killed by police who was a veteran. and so we need to do right by people who are coming back and facing insdwrus 'tis in the streets of this country. so despite the relentless effort to did he say tort what he's trying to say, it's impressive how consistent he has been with this message. >> there was a time in this country when he saw a fair amount of this, athletes choosing to stand for something. there was, of course, the high-profile athletes in the '60s, this iconic photo of john carlos and tommy smith back in '68, raising those fists famously to protest racism. there has not been a great deal of activism with regard to athletes. and now it seems as if, whether it's colin kaepernick, we heard

from carmelo anthony about a month ago. it seems as if this is something that more athletes are starting to do. why is that? why do we think that's the case? >> absolutely. the last couple years there has been a serious uptick in athletes using their hyper exalted to speak for the world. one, you're seeing movements in the streets. and any time you have movements in the streets, it will ricochet on to the athletic field. when you don't have those movements like you really didn't in the '80s and '90s, we shouldn't expect to see athletes stand up and say anything. so the existence of those movements is what is influencing people from inside the wnba, lebron james, colin kaepernick, et cetera. the second reason, really is social media. i think there has been a generational distrust between the sports media, which has been overwhelmingly white and athletes. the heart of whom have been disproportionately people of color. and that distrust has meant -- i

remember once interviewing an athlete and him saying to me the reason i don't speak out is what's the point of doing so if the end result is just going to be me being insulted, mocked and being distorted. so what social media has allowed is for athletes to say in detail what it is they care about. >> always enjoy your perspective and insight. enjoy the holiday, sir. >> thank you, sir. coming up here, hallie jackson's live interview with a former president of mexico, vicente fox, and the interview with donald trump.

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right now on msnbc, donald trump at this moment, receiving his second intelligence briefing. his campaign again under fire. under comments on immigration and newly leaked details on his minority outreach efforts. what the campaign is now saying about an uncovered script of remarks prepared for his upcoming visit to an african-american church. plus, after slamming into florida overnight, tropical storm hermine making its way up the east coast, putting 23 million americans at risk. you might want to say goodbye to labor day, with possible tornadoes up and down the shoreline. and not backing down and not standing up. colin kaepernick this time taking a knee during the national anthem. he wasn't alone. at least two other players joining his protest against racial injustice. this morning we'll chat with one of the surprising names throwing support behind him. morning, everyone. i'm hallie jackson in for tamron hall this hour, livero