appearance at nbc and msnbc this wednesday night 8:00 eastern. if it's sunday it's "meet the press" good day to all of you. i'm alex witt coming you do live from new york. high noon in the east -- in the west. 3:00 p.m. here. i got that right. and donald trump feeling the heat over his immigration plan. surrogates facing tough questions too about whether is 11 million undocumented immigrants will stay or go if trump wins the white house. also questions about if trump even has a chance given his stance. today proof of trump's uphill battle with latino voters. servers stumble. calls today for hillary clinton to step up to the mic amid new

questions about her private e-mail server and what she understood about the messages sent and received as secretary of state. and bracing for impact. americans along the east coast keeping a close eye on hermine. promisinging powerful storm sur and potential for flooding. we start with donald trump's immigration policy under fire. surrogates pressed on whether the 11 million undocumented immigrants have to go or not. no one has an answer. here is mike pence on "meet the press." >> donald trump's made it very very clear that in his ten point plan we're going build a wall. we're going to enforce the laws of this country. we're going end catch and release and all of the things politicians have been talking about for a generation. he's also said there is going to be no amnesty and no path to legalization. if people want to get legalized

or right under the color of the law they need to leave the country. >> -- without leaving the country? >> he also did said. >> this is where we get confused. >> -- existing caps and existing program but rather under a new and reformed immigration program. >> is it fair to say you are not going answer this question? not just you but the campaign? you are going to leave this as an open question throughout the rest of this campaign is this. >> i think donald trump had been completely consistent and i think he did answer the question. >> rudy giuliani even had these suggestions. >> after we secure the border. and after we remove the criminal illegal immigrants -- to a large e extent. you are never going to get to a hundred percent. then and only then can we look at this in a very rational way in which we can look at all the options and be open to all the options. >> and he doesn't want to separate families as you say?

>> i would say that would be one of the things that would be pretty clear. it is going to be depending on the person too. some of these families could have been on welfare for the les thirty years or taking benefits or cheating and may have to be thrown out. not necessarily all of them. >> now covering the trump campaign. it is another day of mixed messages. hear one thing and another. and even when you have chuck todd saying we're a little confused here. that's saying something. how much of an issue going forward? >> in the general it actually probably behooves trump to have a little bit of a message to appeal to the primary with the hard lined stance and now in the general he's softening or being less clear about what you do about the 11 million undocumented immigrants living here. i think he asked the same questions ten times and the

response was the same thing. the clinton campaign is jumping on this. in the last thirty minutes they came out with a statement about exactly this. these messages on immigration, calling it an attempt to mislead voters about their, quote, mass deportation policy by using soft words to describe harsh tactics. that immigrant families know the meaning and can see straight through the message. every one must go. that is a message that the surrogates on the sunday shows have been trying to maybe clarify or talk about or talk around shall we say. and one good example is chris christie out this morning on cbs. listen. >> once we remove those two or three million from the country and return them to the countries of origin because of their criminal conduct than i think what donald trump wants to do is take a deep breathe and where we are and find a humane way to

deal with those who remain. and then a pause after the two or three million get put out of country because of crimes and doing things that are illegal. once those people get dealt with first then we can deal with the remaining 8 million people. >> so a deep breath. a pause, wait and assess afterwards. that is what donald trump himself started saying thursday, thursday afternoon into friday morning and you are seeing that echoed by his supporters, bricking him in line with what more mainstream republicans want to see. who support trying to bring more hispanic voters under the tent because they believe there is some sense that this mass deportation idea isn't going to work. >> thank you very much halle jackson. more right now to further the discussion is clarissa martinez

d decastro. let's play another exchange between mike pence and chuck todd. here it is. >> what do you do with so called dreamers? folks -- kids that were brought here. when they came over, they were here ill lie. they were kids. now they have gone to public school. what do you do with them? >> -- >> do they live in the shadows? >> of course he's going rescind all of the unconstitutional executive orders we've had in president obama, now we have a pledge in hillary clinton. the promise of successive administration that essentially legislate from the oval office. the supreme court turned that back. and donald trump will rescind that and he won't as hillary clinton promises to do executive am nis. >> no am nis. nonesty. >> no amnesty. no. first up is it feasible?

>> it isn't. and i think that is one of the reasons why the trump camp is trying to model where they stand. because the reality of their platform is that on wednesday mr. trump not just doubled down, he tripled down. he talked about mass deportation. he talked about a massive escalation of enforcement. even though it is at record levels right now. and he actually expressed opposition for illegal immigration. i think the campaign is trying to model this because they know the vast majority of americans, not only latino voters do not support these positions. at the end of the day mass deportation by any other name is still mass deportation. >> the president has really taken a lot of criticism from immigration groups for this. deporting more people through immigration orders than any of his predecessors all combined. and hillary clinton is going to introduce a package, and put in a pathway to citizenship and it

will happen in her first hundred days in office. what are you hearing from your members? and are you confident the deportations under a clinton administration would slow down? >> well there certainly has been an incredible level of advocation to insure that when we say that we're going to prioritize national security and community safety, something we support, that indeed our actions reflect that. and that is what cease so concerning about what mr. trump says. is that it doesn't seem to be that kind of prioritization. there doesn't seem anyway for people who are contributing to the country to come forward. and there doesn't seem to be an acknowledgment of the economic impact that his platform would have. absolutely we need to make sure that the policies with e hay ie. that we modernize the system so instead of being a deportation machine we create legal challenges for people to come vetted through the system rather than around it.

that is what we are hoping to hear. and we are hoping to hear how we are going to create a way of people here of good moral character to come forward because they are contributing to the country. >> clarissa martinez de castro, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> now to hermine. the slow-moving storm has strengthened this morning. new jersey governor christie is warning residents do not venture into the water. >> urged people to be careful. listen to your life guards. municipal officials. about, you know, being in the ocean or not. because rip currents are going to get fairly aggressive. even before you see any other type of outward manifestations of the storm. >> nbc's tammy lightener from seaside heights new jersey. good day tammy.

what kind of job do local officials have ahead of them there is this. >> the one thing they are doing right now the most important thing is they are keeping people off this beach. this beach is vacant except for me right now. 6 to 8 foot swells out here. a rip current that is extremely strong and very dangerous. the beach patrol has been patrolling this beach all morning. we got a chance to go out with them just a short while ago. let's go out and listen to what the chief had to say. >> what is the biggest danger right now? >> at high tide get swept off your feet and at that point get caught into a run, a rip. >> reporter: do people not realize how powerful the water is? >> it never ceases to amaze you how many people disregard mother nature. and as much in today's society with the media coverage and you can go on youtube and see numerous shots of people still doing it. >> reporter: is the tied

normally this high? >> no. it's not. a at this point it's blowing northeast. we'll have beach i erosion. and the water will come occupy not so much today but tonight's high tide more than likely will hit the boardwalk. and little kids. if they get swept off the beach and the white water and the rips, they could get sucked out. and it would be hard to locate a four, five, six-year-old. >> you heard them talking about beach erosion there. this is lactually a cliff that drops off four, five six feet and this just happened in the last 24 hours because of how strong the ocean is out here. extremely dangerous how quickly it can change and that is the point everybody has been making. it may look like a beautiful day out right now but things can change on the drop of a dime. alex? >> a lot of times surfers just can't help themselves when they

see big waves like that. have vow seen surfers out in the water? >> reporter: there have not been any surfers and i asked the chief today. and he said surfers are not the ones they have to worry about. and surfers in fact sometimes end up helping them because they are so strong in the water. >> oh, there you go. for latest on hermine. here is bonny schneider. how is all this storm going to effect the coastal regions. >> reporter: especially in southern new jersey are likely to see impact. as the posttropical storm still a powerful one. 70 miles per hour winds and notice the movement east/northeast. and slowed quite a bit. well off shore but tropical storm force winds extend almost 200 mields miles from the center. so when we look at the track the

winds get very close to the east coast. and monday evening notice it is back up to hurricane intensity all the way to winds at 75 miles per hour. in terms of flooding the worst threat is for monday at the time of high tide. carolinas up to chincoteague virginia. the outer banks. 1-3 feet above normal at the time of high tide. the sweet spot, south jersey, delaware, delaware bay, to chincoteague, 3-5 feet high tide for monday morning and afternoon. and monday late morning, jersey shore and sandy hook south of new york city. and then long island. a lot of people have been asking about the north shore. we have that funneling effect where the waves build up in the long island sound so potential for flooding likely 1-3 feet at the time of normal above high

tied. and the massachusetts south coast looking at a tropical storm watch and you may be wondering, it's sunny outside, feels great but the biggest threat for the storm once again is that coastal flooding and for those that live in south jersey, the winds pick up and the flood threat also increases at the time of high tide for monday morning and possibly tonight too. >> a damper on the holiday week but thank you so much bonny. what will happen to undocumented immigrants if donald trump wins the white house? his campaign working to separate fact from fiction but are americans, specifically minority voters buying the pitch? my eyelove is season 1, episode 1. my eyelove is making a story come alive.

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donald trump has made it very clear that a priority of our administration will be removing criminal aliens. we'll also be fining people who have overstayed their visa. an enormous number of people come to this country legally and then simply overstay their visas because we make no effort to hold them accountable or uphold the law. the simple truth is that what the american people long to see is leadership at the national level that doesn't high onically focus on the group that you are focused onmyopically focus on the group that you are focused on. >> talking to chuck todd about the undocumented immigrants in the u.s. there are still questions about what the trump plan will co-about this group. his proposals so far have alienated some of his top latino advisors who say they were misled by the billionaire

candidate. let's bring in our panel: a big welcome to all o three of you. thank you for your full-time on a holiday weekend. what do you think was the deal breaker for trump's hispanic supporters? >> it was his last lack of pivot. going into the rnc convention latinos were holding their breathe waiting to see if there was going to be a pivot. and that didn't happen. and then there were going to be numberers maybe he was going to have that come to jesus moment. and i'm going to have a path to legalization and work with latinos and immigrants and then last week up until wednesday night again everyone was holding their breath and there was a collective let down. really at this point there is no way to remedy what has been done. we are about 60 day, 70 days

away from the election and latinos are not going to vote for trump given that stance. at least not more than 20%. i don't think he's going to get above the 22% we saw in his last poll. i think it was the nail in the coffin for trump to get that sizable latino vote that you need for the white house. >> with just 65 days to go this latest poll is suggesting that clinton is literally trouncing trump by quite a margin. 68 with hadn't and 21 with donald trump. adolfo do you think the tone on trump's is what cost him? >> i don't understand how anybody for one moment thought that donald trump was going to do better with latino voters would change his message. mitt romney who i worked for got 27% of the vote. the fact of the matter is the latinos were vociferously

against mr. trump and they have gone back and fourth. and i'm not supporting trump but i have to hand to it him. i think his message was consistent. we've all been talking about inconsistencies and hypocrisy if he were to change his view. and latino voters i don't think were going to change their minds just because of a speech. the speech and the visit to mexico was designed to reach suburban republican women and the white vote wh he needs to solidify. and i think it was a success. the visit to mexico was a success. and then he returned to phoenix and fundamentally gave the same speech he gave when he launched his presidential bid. so i have to say that with all honesty, the target here is not the latino community. that is a pipe dream. it is solidifying republican support. because many of those positions, to all the viewers who understand are not just mr. trump's positions.

they are the positions held by many conservative republicans. >> -- may have been the part of those reactions here. >> absolutely. >> -- clinton winning over by default? you had the washington post pointing all her campaign has virtually run no spanish language tv ads in the general election. might she be taking their vote for granted? ? >> this has been a concern for latino communities going back months. on may second for example. there was a meeting with some latino groups and the dennis. and i wrote about this in the organizations. and they stressed you can't just bash trump and think that is going to be enough. so this is something organizations having bringing up for months now to anyone who will listen. you can't just bash trump and think that is a policy proposal that will draw in latino voters and give them a reason a proactive reason to head to the polls. >> i want to ask all of you this question. can donald trump win the

election without significant support from the latino community? >> all depends on turnout on both sides. the thing with latino voters is they are historically underrepresented at the polls. same with groups like asian american voters. so if they don't turn out in numbers and harness that political power that we've been talking about for so long, then we are going to go back to square one in terms of what do their votes really matter for. >> okay. what do you think victory victoria? >> i agree with lucy hernandez. if latinos don't turn out in the numbers we historically see. above the 50% they historically get to. that is going to give donald trump an advantage. and the folks that have been disillusioned by hillary clinton. they may just stay home. add that to low latino turnout

and a mobilized trump base there is room for a trump presidency. i don't think it is likely but it is possible. >> i want to point out 12% of the votie inelectorate are hispanic. how much of that is he going to get? >> i think he's going to to get a quarter. among the largist states with hispanic votes are texas, florida, arizona. and those are reliably republican red states. so absolutely donald trump can win the presidency without a significant latino vote. i think it is possible. the wooikd wild card here is il is is how many people are going to turn out for donald trump that have not participated in the past. that is what he's banking on and a that would take the difference. but he could absolutely win without more than a quarter of the latino vote if everything else lines up for him.

>> that is a lot of ifs though. >> there are. absolutely. >> stay with us. a short break and we'll be right back soon. focus along the east coast soon bracing for potential flooding as hermine continues. and later, pope francis declaring mother teresa a st. with 1500 reminders of her life's work sitting right there in the front row.

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lawmakers turning to an abbreviated election session. the chief goal is to pass a stopgap spending measure to keep the government running past october 1st. there are also calls to found fight against the mosquito born zika virus. we are tracking hermine, slowly moving up the east coast. the weather channel's scott newell joins us from cape may new jersey. scott, good day to you. even though the storm is a bit further out to sea what are the big concerns for cape may? >> reporter: couple of cornncer, one is beach erosion. they have had issues. and the storm even though it didn't come as close as originally thought. look out tlo. all of that is doing some damage. there has been a lot of sand washed out. they are going to be concerned about that. they will replenish some of the

sand in november. unfortunately they got hurt with lack of tourism. people out here sunbathing you will notice. not allowed to go in the water. surfers are allowed in the water. and boogie board surfers as well. what are people doing today? they had to change plans? what were you originally going to do? >> play tennis. >> what happened is this. >> it rained. >> so we relaxed and ate and explored a beautiful place. never been to cape may before. and it really is a gorgeous place. and we woke up this morning with a fantastic surprise of a beautiful day. >> you were thinking last night what? >> well my girlfriend went to the pizza store to get water and soda and he said that is all you are buying? that is all the provisions you are going to have? i was expecting -- no idea what we were going to wake up.

and woke up at 7:30 and i go oh my god it is sunny out. let's go. breakfast. let's get out. and that is what we did. beautiful day. >> and you're going back when? >> tonight. we had tomorrow to recuperate from the long weekend. but yeah. >> all right richard. glad you were able to make it out here. and i love the cleveland hat. that's my favorite. >> yankees. >> he's a yankees fan but loves the hat. i know. so that is the situation here on the beach. what they are going to to v to do so assess the economic impact. this is a city of 7800 normally. and on a weekday like this it can swell to 45,000. they have about 35,000 people. the good part sit turned out to be a nice sunny day today. tomorrow we're watching the high tide here just to make sure there is not too much surge. >> but of course for those business, labor day that is kind of that last final push.

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either presidential nominee as honest and trustworthy. nbc's kristen welker joins us from washington. >> hillary clinton continues to be dogged by ongoing questions about her use of a private e-mail server while she was secretary of state. on friday another headline that feeds into voters lack of trust of her. the notes from their three and a half hour interview. among the revelations clinton telling the fbi more than three dozen times she couldn't remember something. including some briefing on information. and including she didn't remember the letter c marked on something meant confidential. and she hasn't held an official press conference in 270 days. tim kaine defended her today. take a listen. >> shouldn't she be answering questions about this. >> i just have to disagree with you. i have sat with her while she has answered questions.

what she did and why and she said look, by using one device, i've made a mistake. i apologize for it. i wouldn't do it again. >> back on the trail tomorrow. marching in labor day parades in cleveland and hampton, illinois. and president obama hits the trail next week. her campaign tells me it is going to be all hands on deck from tomorrow through election day, alex. >> kristen, thank you for that. and tomorrow clinton and her surrogates will be fanning out for multiple labor day events. this after month of low visibility from the democratic nominee. the campaign facing criticism in fact for lack of access given to the press as she traveled to a number of high profile dollar fundraisers this month lucy ann. let's listen to what tim kaine

said today in response to a question about press access. >> hundreds of interviews the last year and i got push back on the notion that she hasn't done a press conference. she gave a spooeb speech to the national association of the black journalists in the last month where there were also hispanic journalists there and she did a press conference there and members of mainstream media, television networks asked her questions during that press conference. >> besides that one event there, is that enough? >> no. unequivocab unequivocablely, right. >> no. >> -- members of the association of the hispanic journalists including a number of people who aren't journalists and are part of those associations and. the same as with her traveling press core. the people following her every day and schlepping to the events back and forth and seen her stump speech and can prablgtically give it by heart. it is not the same thing as all.

it is not a defense. >> she does give a lot of one on one interviews. is that enough? >> no. also no. you will notice a lot of those one on one tend to be with local news outlets. that is wonderful. they are the bedrock of american journalism and i salute them but again it is not the same thing of talking to the press corps who follows you all the time. and it is only one part of journalism. there are a range of journalists out there. the traveling press corps. the in-depth reports. only talking in cherry picking a very small slice of that brood vow of american journalism to talk to. that is not the same thing. >> the "new york times" today about the high dollared fundraisers and here is a quote. portraying mr. trump as an out of touch bill their has --.

victoria, the clinton campaign has its biggest fundraising month just this last month but the optics can also feed in on the narrative that she is not focused on the people she's campaigning to help t middle class. what do you say? >> that is a valid concern. and perception is reality. if you are talking about the middle class in stump speech but in the private meetings giving access to high dollar donors, that is a problem. the question is what is she going to do going forward? we know tomorrow she's going to be fanning out across the rust belt but is she going to be talking to the voters? is she going to be spending time in the cafes? at the kitchen tables of those families who are trying to figure out how they are going to make ends meet? the other thing i think we are going to see from the clinton campaign is they are going to argue, hey, this is a very rough and tumble war that we're fighting against donald trump. so i needy coffers.

talk the cheep. we needs to get out there and talk to the miles per hour people whose vote she needs. on "meet the press" senator sanders explained how he would advise secretary clinton. >> i would certainly suggest as president of the united states she should cease all operation, all contact with the clinton foundation. >> does that mean shutting it down? or just not being involved? can you truly -- >> at the very least she should not be involved. >> so adolfo, trump has run into issues with his own foundation including a fine over a donation to the florida attorney general. can he attack that in any way on these debates? >> the foundation of undue

influence when she was secretary of state and others were influential in either getting favors from the government or possibly even changing policies. so that i think therein is the big difference. i think -- i really believe that the clinton campaign has made a calculation here. that they are going to run out the clock. she has the absolute advantage. we were in the previous panel saying how donald trump would possibly win. it's still stacked against him because of his own doing. so she's a likely winner of this election. to have a press conference and the time she's held press conferences has created more problems than answers. and the one on one interview with a serious journalist chris wallace of course created a huge controversy when he contradicted the fbi director. so this is a strategy. why it is a risky strategy is that it continues to cast doubt she's hiding something. she's unwilling to face the american people.

and lastly if she goes into the debate not having a press conference, to be asked these tough questions about journalists on national the v television and she fumbles i think a perception could possibly cause her serious damage. >> one question. i need a quick answer from each of you. when asked about the upcoming debate, the keep moment is going to be that first debate. trump will be viewed as a distinct underdog. which could be dangerous. you have to make sure you dominate the first debate. victoria you first. >> she needs to dominate but at the same time she can't play into the stereotype of women being bossy and another b-word. >> got it. adol adolfo. >> i think trump needs to do what he did in mexico. have the temperament and te presence of someone who can be

commander in chief. that's what he needs to do. >> i think trump needs to avoid looking like a bully when he's on stage one on one with hillary clinton and i think she needs to keep it nice and cool, much like she did when she was testifying about benghazi and maybe brush things off a little bit. >> okay. thank you very much. have a good labor day. >> thank you. >> and reminder to all of you. tune in this wednesday september 7th, 8:00 p.m. eastern for the first ever commander in chief forum. matt lauer moderates focused on veterans issue. and coming up, a preview of some of the questions the candidates will work to answer wednesday night. richmond lui with that right here on msnbc hmmmmm... [ "dreams" by beck ] hmmmmm...

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calcut calcutta. about 120,000 people filled st. peter square to pay homage to the living saint who dedicated her life to helping the poor. claudio, first up, what was the atmosphere like there in the square. >> reporter: well the atmosphere is better described and probably was better described by six young american college girls we spoke to this morning here in st. peter square. they are starting in germany right now and took a 16 hour drive overnight by bus and after the ceremony went back. a grueling journey and i asked them was it worth it? and they said well, yes, because the hardship was part of the experience. what they were referring to was the cory theory of mother teresa, of saint teresa now of calcut calcutta. to care for the poor t

destitute, the poorest among the poor. you have to share their suffering. and that is why whithis six gir and the other 120,000 people here this morning that to them she's been a saint all along for decades, even when she was alive because of her dedication to the poor and the homeless. >> very much the way pope francis has conducted his life certainly leading up to his role there in the vatican. i understand also he performed an act of kindness in honor claudio? >> reporter: he did. there were 13 seats in the heads of states of government but the front seats were given to homeless poor pen and men. and then after that they were treated to a free lunch, specifically neapolitan pizza, paid for by pope francis. you will think oh that is a very mother teresa thing to do.

also very pope francis because he's put fight against poverty at forefront of his agenda. in a way it was very fitting yo way, the pope of the slums, as pope francis has been known all along, has elevated to sainthood the saint of the gutter, alex. >> that is one way to say it. claud claudio, thank you so much. renewed backlash for his refusal to stand. 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick canceling an appearance at a church to discuss why he took a stand against the national anthem, but what do his actions and the response to them say about freedom of speech here in the land of the free? ending the day. i don't use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well fitting dentures let in food particles. just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat.

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in a last-minute announcement, 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick canceled his address to the third baptist church in san francisco today. kaepernick was scheduled to speak at the congregation about the motivation behind his controversial refusal to stand during the national anthem.

msnbc's scottie schwartz is following this from los angeles. with a welcome to you, do we know why kaepernick decided not to appear this morning? >> well, alex, at this point, all we have to go on is what the reverend said in church addressing his congregation. he said colin kaepernick was going to be there this morning, had every plan of being there, but because of the rigors of training and getting ready for other games, he was not going to make it. he also said that kaepernick was going to be coming at a later date to address the entire community. it's important to note that we have not heard from kaepernick directly about the plans to speak at the church. he did, however, make that pledge, that very public pledge to donate $1 million to organizations that work to fight racial inequality. now, today during the sermon, the reverend said kaepernick would be working with the naacp and other organizations that support children as well. just recently, kaepernick and his girlfriend donated about $60,000 in backpacks to kids in the bronx and in harlem. and all of this comes on the

heels of the latest controversy regarding kaepernick's decision to take a knee during the national anthem. recently, we've seen pictures of kaepernick wearing socks during practice with pigs in police uniforms. those have surfaced, kaepernick saying those were taken before he decided to sit out during the national anthem, and they were in response to what he called rogue cops. while the san francisco police union is now threatening to boycott policing 49ers games, saying that they have a duty to protect all of their members from harassing behavior. the chief of police, however, making it very clear that officers are going to continue to be assigned to games and that protecting the public is priority number one. usually there's about 70 police officers on duty. the chief taking issue with kaepernick's actions but saying they are protected by the constitution. meanwhile, jersey sales with kaepernick's name have reportedly gone up, moving from the 20th most popular shirt on the 49ers store to number one.

last season, those jerseys were on clearance. now they are back up to $99.99, many people buying them in support of kaepernick, while we have seen, others might be buying them to burn them. alex? >> ooh, that is interesting. and i just want to make the point that it is not just colin kaepernick now. there are several other professional players that are following suit. >> absolutely. it is not just the 49ers, too. we've seen members of the seahawks. we've seen a lot of people come out in support of colin kaepernick on social media as well as sitting on the bench and taking a knee during the national anthem there. >> yeah, all right. we've got a lot more to come on this. gadi schwartz in los angeles. thank you. that's it for me this hour. thank you for watching. i'm alex witt here at msnbc headquarters in new york. richard lui picks things up after a quick break. have a great and safe labor day holiday. ♪

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tomorrow, well, that's the unofficial beginning of the end of the election, and you can imagine that. and as both campaigns hit the road full bore now, immigration is the hot topic of the week. the focus, if donald trump and his camp can say if all of the more than 11 million undocumented immigrants will be deported or not. vice presidential nominee mike pence unable to specifically answer nbc's chuck todd on today's "meet the press" on that topic. >> donald trump's made it very, very clear that in his ten-point plan, we're going to build a wall, we're going to enforce the laws of this country, end catch-and-release. we're going to do all of the things that politicians in both political parties have been talking about for more than a generation. he's also said there will be no amnesty and path to legalization. if people want to get legalized or want to get right under the color of the law, they need to leave the country, but he also said -- >> nobody becomes legal in this country without leaving the country? >> chuck, he also said -- >> this is where we get