tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC September 13, 2016 1:00am-2:01am PDT
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to his second term in office and he announced a big slew of new nominees for high-ranking positions in his second-term administration, including bill daily who was nominated to be the new secretary of commerce. also, our old friend bill richardson, a familiar face already by that time, in this case, december 1996, bill richardson was being nominated to be the new american ambassador to the united nations. so at this announcement, you see al gore is there, on the left side of your screen, bill daily is there, on the right side of your screen. president clinton cops out and talks. he introduces his nominees. bill daley is the commerce secretary. he comes out and says thank you, mr. president. i want to thank my family, yada, yada, thank you, mr. president, thank you to my family. bill richardson steps up to do the same thing. while bill richardson is talking, it goes horribly wrong. this is bill richardson speaking but keep your eye on the right side of your screen on bill daley. watch.
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i think he fainted. i think he's fine. we'll give you a report in a minute. >> bill richardson is like, this is not an auspicious beginning. but william daley, while being announced as the nation's next commerce secretary, he just full-on passed out. he was 48 years old at the time. generally healthy. he said he hadn't eaten lunch, it was hot under the lights, he was really tired. he'd been kind of exhausted lately and he just fainted and he told reporters he had never fainted before in his life before he fainted in that high-profile moment. as far as we know, he never fainted again after that moment. he went on to be fine obviously 20 years later he went on to become barack obama's white house chief of staff. he's still around, still kicking. but that day when he got nominated for commerce secretary, that did not look good. and fainting is a thing that tends to happen near former president bill clinton. salon ran an article titled, "why do people keep fainting around bill clinton?"
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here's a young woman just behind him on the left side of your screen. bill clinton is campaigning for hillary clinton in 2008 and this young woman gives a lot of warning that she's going and then, whoa, she just goes down. same thing happened later on that year after barack obama became the nominee, bill clinton was giving a democratic unity speech in october that year and another person standing next to bill clinton just went. during that 2008 campaign, actually, during the re-election campaign in 2012, randomly over the course of his presidency, a lot of people have also fainted around barack obama. he has made it -- made sort of an art form of taking -- gracefully taking note of people passing out in the act of passing out he gets the medical attention and then he sort of smoothly moves on. this has happened to him a few times. bernie sanders had a couple of dramatic instances dealing with fainters during his run for the presidency this year. there's a couple -- actually,
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they were kind of scary at the time but you could also see that bernie sanders is not used to this happening around him. you can see it in the shock in the way that he responds, the shock and concern. >> tell you is there is one issue out there. >> oh, god. >> we were told when the debates were going to take place and, as some of you know, they were -- >> oh, my god. >> it is sort of an occupational hazard of either being president or running for president that sometimes people collapse around you. and, you know, it may be not totally random. it may be a product of secret service security protocols. i don't know. by the time you're actually standing behind a president or a presidential candidate who is speaking at an official event and gone through all the layers of security and all the time that takes, maybe you haven't eaten and on your feet for a
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long time and dehydrated and the lights are hot. maybe it's a little situational about security and being that near to people who get to that high level of presidential politics. but it does happen and it's not the end of the world when it happens but it's always worrying. it's always a shock. it's another level of worrying and another level of shock when the person doing the passing out is not someone near the president of the united states, it's actually the president. >> it happened when the president was snacking on pretzels while watching the nfl playoffs with his two dogs. one of the pretzels apparently triggered something that caused the president to hit the deck hard. northbound's white house correspondent campbell-brown tonight has the latest. >> the first real health scare for president bush and his first words to reporters today -- >> my mother always said, when you're eating pretzels, chew before you swallow. listen to your mother. >> reporter: but for all his light-heartedness clearly
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visible on the president's face, a big abrasion on his left upper cheek and a bruised hip. how did it happen? the aides say he was watching football on the couch in his bedroom sunday evening alone except for the dogs barney and spot. as aids describe it, he was eating a pretzel that, quote, went down wrong and triggered a temporary drop in bush's heart rate causing him to pass out. >> i hit the deck and woke up and there was barney and spot showing a lot of concern. >> reporter: the president said he's not sure but he believes he was only out for a few seconds because when he woke up, the dogs hadn't moved. the president called the white house nurse on 24-hour standby and then walked down to see the doctor on the ground floor of the residence. >> doctors do say the president's fainting episode is nothing to worry about, but why would someone apparently with no health problems suddenly pass out?
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well, it's not as uncommon as you might think. more on that now from chief science correspondent robert bazell. >> president bush today looked to be in excellent health. his doctor says several tests of his heart and vital signs show that his passing out was not the result of any underlying health problem. but the size of the bruise on his check shows he did take a hard fall, losing consciousness completely. >> president george w. bush had his pretzel episode in 2011 and then the president himself and the white house in general basically made light of the situation, make sure you chew before you swallow, right? but still it was a little unnerving to see the president so visibly beat up. he had this big bruise. his face looked like he went a few rounds in a bare knuckle brawl. his father, the first president bush, had a dramatic fainting episode while he was in office. the george h.w. bush white house also basically tried to make light of that incident and the initial news reports after president george hw brush passed
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out in that state dinner in japan, they tended to downplay the incident and focus on the fact that the president was able to pop back up after he vomited and sluched over onto the japanese prime minister miniature. the reports actually got a little more serious a few days after the incident when abc news was able to obtain a longer tape showing what happened in that room. abc aired and what aired was it was an unusual incident involving the president having the flu. the footage that will abc was able to air a few days late area, i mean, we still look back on it as being a funny incident. but when you look at that tape, what they actually showed was upsetting. >> the lone camera in the dining room was locked in on the head table when president bush was overcome by nausea and fell forward. it appears he lost consciousness as he toppled over onto his host the prime minister. the news scene shows barbara bush reacting quickly realizing her husband needed help bringing her napkin to his mouth, then stepping backing to let the secret service agents take over.
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as the commotion became more frantic, one agent told guests to stay back, then he vaulted over the table to help. moments later, come the scenes replayed so many times in the last few days, the president recovers enough to apologize and leave. the nausea had plagued president bush all evening. published reports say before the dinner, his doctor warned him not to go. mr. bush did not take that advice. during the receiving line before the meal, reports say he excused himself at least once, threw up, and even had to change soiled clothes. >> we look back at that incident in japan now as almost a comic event and president bush said not long after it happened that he was so embarrassed over the whole thing. the japanese coined the phrase as a slang term for barfing. after that whole incident happened. when you see the footage of is happening at the time, it's bad. they tastefully cut out the part from the tape where can he
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actually vomits but there's his wife covering his face with the napkin and wiping him off and the president is totally unconscious, lying on top of the japanese prime minister and the secret service agent in the foreground moves from trying to help everybody, to, as they said, vaulting over the table in trying to help the president in what was a serious emergency. that was not a good scene. but in the larger scheme of things, it was also not that serious. he had the flu. he barfed and passed out. he was okay the next day. presidents are human. they get afflicted with passing health issues. sometimes presidents get afflicted with serious not passing health issues. even when they are serious, though. that's generally speaking not what defines them or their presidency. dwight eisenhower, first elected in 1952, sworn in in 1953. by 1955, he had a serious heart attack and also had crohn's disease.
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by 1956,ing in addition to the heart attack and the surgery for the obstruction, he had a stroke in office in 1957. his successor was jfk, elected in 1960 after a campaign marked in part by some of his political opponents insysing that he had addison's disease. he insists he did not have addison's disease. he did in fact have addison's disease a serious condition affecting his adrenal glands which he took a huge variety of medications over the course of his adult life and presidency. fdr, of course, is the most famous case. first elected in 1932, elected again in 1936 and 1940 and 1944. it's now one of the most famous things in american presidential history that fdr was paraplegic. he used a wheelchair because of the effects of polio. in public, he was afforded a zone of privacy on that issue. it was not a secret but it was not really part of his public profile either. that said, regardless of polio, by the time fdr was running for
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his fourth term, he was really quite ill. frank leahy, who founded the famous leahy clinic, did a medical exam on fdr the night before he accepted his party's nomination at the convention in july of 1944. and leahy was basically shocked at what he found in that medical evaluation. it was own five years ago, 2011, they finally made public a letter that frank leahy wrote that night following examining the president. fdr was in heart failure, if not in heart failure, at least on the verge of it. frank leahy says he gave this information to fdr's personal physician and told him in no uncertain terms that president roosevelt would die in office if he went on to accept that nomination the next day and win the election and become president for a fourth term. but fdr went through with it to assuage any fears about his health.
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to calm any worries the public might have had as he asked to be put back into the white house for a 13th year in office. right before the election in 1944, he went so far as to insys on an over the top demonstration of his health and resilience. watch this. ♪ >> youds crowds at effective bets baseball field in brooklyn greet president roosevelt in new york city. here on behalf of his friend senator bob wagner, he has a special word for brooklyn dodger fans. now the procession through the met trop police in an downpour of rain which mr. roosevelt braves in an open car. fdr's first outdoor appearance as a campaigning candidate.
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he doesn't seem to mind the weather one bit. >> 51 mile motorcade in new york city in an open car in a cold, pounding rain to show his vigor. fdr went on to win the election that fall and sworn in for a fourth term in january and he was dead by april. so we have had presidents with all sorts of ailments and illnesses and standards for disclosure and allowance for privacy, even allowances for secrecy with some eye toward public morale. those standards used to be different from what they are now. and maybe that's uncomfortable. maybe we'd be a better country if we were back in the days of jfk hiding his massive medication regime or woodrow wilson having a massive stroke and telling no one about it for months or glover cleveland having a cancerous growth removed from his mouth in secret on a moving yacht because he didn't want anybody to know that he had any kind of problem. literally, grover cleveland had surgery in 1893, a cancerous
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growth in his mouth, called up a friend who had a yacht, got surgery on the thing and his mouth while the yacht sailed around long island sound. so nobody would think he was doing anything other than having a nice day on a boat. maybe we'd be better off, right, if that's how we still treated presidential health. somewhere between secrecy and privacy being sacrosanct. but you know what? we don't treat it that way anymore and candidates sometimes chafe at that. go back to bill clinton in 1 2 when he was first running for president. it was a source of concern when bill clinton was running in '92 that he kept losing his voice all the time. >> clinton has developed a bad case of laryngitis but his staff was upbeat despite the latest -- despite that elocated by a new poll which shows his lead widening. clinton's brutal schedule he arrived in cincinnati at 4:30 this morning. his schedule finally got to him.
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>> the governor's voice is completely gone, and he will not be able to speak. >> clinton's allergies, lack of sleep and overuse made his voice a croak. >> bad, huh? it's bad. we fought for a year. we got two days to go. my voice will be better by this afternoon and i'll be there monday, i'll be there tuesday, fight on. don't give up. go! >> clinton's staff says he's gargling and doing voice exercises to regain his voice before starting a final nine-state swing tomorrow. clinton's staff says despite his laryngitis, he feels fine. to demonstrate it, he tossed a football with an aide while the cameras rolled. by late afternoon in pennsylvania where he's comfortably ahead, clinton had begun to regain his voice. >> on tuesday we will win a new day for america. >> but it's still weak and raspy heading into tomorrow's final push. >> bill clinton was unusually reticent about releasing information about his health
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when he first ran for president in 1992. it became an issue because of his very, very evident voice problems at a very high-profile time. the health of the candidates that year was also an issue because his main rival for the nomination in '92 was paul tsongas. paul tsongas had had lymphona. paul tsongas had a serious recurrence of his cancer. he ended up passing away two days before bill clinton was sworn in for his second term, which means had paul tsongas won the primary in 192, had he won the presidency in 1992, he might not have made it alive through his first terp as president. but even with the issue of paul tsongas' cancer and the strange incident in japan, where the incumbent republican president fell ill literally got sick, vomited and passed out on top of a foreign head of state, even with those het issues swirling around that campaign, bill clinton was very reticent about releasing health information. he refused all requests for interviews either
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for him or with his doctors even though the other candidates were doing that. it was not until in his re-election race in 1996 when clinton finally released extensive information about his health. he did an extensive interview with the new york times about his health and it included a slightly controversial revelation that he was receiving weekly shots to decent tise him to allergens. it was controversial at the time because the white house doctor who had been the white house doctors under george h.w. bush, he said after clinton was sworn in, he said that he had suddenly and summarily dismissed from his job, fired as the white house doctor one week after bill clinton was sworn in, right after, hours after he refused a request from a white house staff member to please inject the brand-new president with what was described to him as an allergy shot but the white house doctor said he didn't have any idea what was in the unmarked vial and didn't feel comfortable doing that and
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balked at it and was fired within hours. we got an explanation four years down the road. we have evolved dramatically over time in terms of what we expect to know about the bodily health of our presidents and our presidential candidates and it's awkward and unnerving to them but it's also important. and we're now at a point in terms of our traditions and experience and our expectations as a country where i think -- i think the principle that applies is that the more cause there is for concern, the more reasonable concerns there are about a candidate's health or president's health, the more disclosure is warranted to alleviate those concerns. and that's why donald trump's half page doctor's letter has been more than just hilarious, right? if donald trump is elected, he would be the oldest person ever sworn in for a first-term as president of the united states. him releasing a hyperbolic misspelled unserious, unprofessional laugh out loud campaign document from a gastroenterologist is unacceptable in terms of modern
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standards of what we get to know be presidential candidates and their health. the trump campaign for its part now say that their candidate basically snuck away from the traveling press corps sometime last week and got a brand-new physical exam. they say they will release results from that medical exam, if not a more complete medical history, this week, probably on thursday when mr. trump appears on the daytime talk show hosted by a man named dr. oz. after hillary clinton stumbled and appeared to fall and had to be bodily hauled into a waiting van, after she abruptly left the 9/11 memorial service, the clinton campaign also dipped her press pool. they initially announced the collapse was due to being overheated and later announced that it was due to pneumonia diagnosed on friday but not reported anywhere until sunday afternoon, until hours after this incident.
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the health of the candidates this year has already been grossly politicized by the trump campaign and i mean that specifically. the trump campaign politicized their own candidate's health by making a mockery of the standard medical disclosure that a candidate usually makes. the trump campaign also politicized hillary clinton's health by criticizing her health, encouraging and passing on conspiracy theories about her health for months now. but now that hillary clinton has had this medical episode in public and had this evolution of the splapgs for it, even over the course of one day from her campaign, now the clinton campaign is facing real questions, real concerns, not just trumped up political concerns about her health and how transparent her campaign has been about it. her campaign told me tonight they will make a more complete disclosure of clinton's health records by the end of this week. they told me tonight it will be this week. so far, they have said nothing else to shed substantive light as to what is going on here. no candidate for president likes to discuss any of this stuff, no human being would.
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but the greater the reasonable concern, the more you must disclose. and so i think it is inescapable now that the clinton campaign is now going to have to pull a full mccain here. they are going to have to release much more medical information than they ever would have before in order to make this if not -- to make this not a defining if not the defining issue of her run for the presidency in these last two months. we've got much more ahead tonight. stay with us. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®.
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she's doing fine. she -- she was even better last night before she went to sleep. she had a good night's sleep. she just got dehydrated yesterday. >> is that what happened? she got dehydrated? because when you look at that collapse, that video that was taken, you wonder if it's not more serious. >> no, no. >> than dehydration. >> she's been -- well, if it is, it's a mystery to me and all of her doctors. rarely, but on more than one occasion, over the last many, many years, the same sorts of things happen to her when she got severely dehydrated. and she's worked like a demon, as you know, as secretary of state and as a senator and in
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the years since, she -- >> more importantly, she's on a grueling campaign. >> yeah. >> and you know what that's like. >> i do. >> and she's odor than you were when you ran. >> and she's had 2 1/2 hard days before the day when he she got dizzy. today she made a decision, which i think was correct, to cancel her campaign day. >> right. >> to take one more day to rest. >> is it possible that she'll be away for weeks from the campaign trail? >> no. not a shot. i'll be lucky to hold her back another day. >> how often has this happened? >> oh, i think really only twice that i can recall. you know, it is something that has occurred a few times over the course of my life and i'm aware of it and usually can avoid it. >> do you actually faint?
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did you actually pass out for lose consciousness? >> no, i didn't. i felt dizzy and i did lose my balance for a minute. but once i got in, once i could sit down, once i could cool off, once i had some water, i immediately started feeling better. >> hillary clinton tonight on cnn and bill clinton tonight on cbs, both commenting on hillary clinton's health. she is at home taking what she described on twitter today as a day home sick from work, which is something we all have done, except not while running for president whereupon it takes on a different meaning. nbc presidential historian michael beschloss is here with us next. stay with us. the only once a day product, proven to regrow new hairs up to 48% thicker. revive your va va voom. and save on any rogaine®.
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a republican candidate for president took the unusual step today of releasing extensive health records, physical and mental. aides to arizona senator john mccain say he released the information to counter rumors about his fitness. nbc's david bloom has our report. >> sitting in the stands of today's army/navy game is john mccain. one eye on the field, the other on the white house. today mccain, the former navy pilot, shot down over vietnam, released some 1500 pages of medical records which detail a physical and emotional toll of his 5 1/2 years in captivity but which also suggest the arizona senator is psychologically fit to be president.
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neuropsychologist jeffrey moore reviewed mccain's records from the navy. >> there's nothing that you've seen that indicate as mental health problem? >> correct. yeah. there's never been a diagnosis. >> people talk about the full mccain in terms of medical records. this is the remarkable thing that they are talking about. when john mccain first ran for president in 2000, he released 1500 pages of medical records. if people had concerns about his ordeal as a prisoner of war and what he went through and what the effects were, he would come totally clean. there's everything. 1500 pages. when he ran again eight years later, he did it again in 2008 he released another 1200 -- an additional 1200 pages of medical records covering the time period from 2000 to 2008. just everything. mccain had cancer treatments, degenerative arthritis because of his war wounds, anything you want to know, it's all there. that's the full mccain. thousands of pages of medical history and medical documents, full disclosure, warts and all, literally. presidents and candidates for
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president do not have a rule book to follow here in terms of disclosing their medical records but is the evolving standard now that the level of disclosure has to rise to meet the reasonable level of concern about a candidate or a president's health? joining us now is michael beschloss, presidential historian. michael, nice to have you with us tonight. thanks for being here. >> thanks. it's getting more interesting every minute, isn't it? >> well, you know, we've got comments tonight from hillary clinton and bill clinton both commenting on her health history essentially. characterizing this in light of other events that she's had. they said -- the campaign told me tonight that this week they will release more significant medical records but we don't yet know what that will be. when you look at the historical sweep of this among different presidents and presidential candidates, is there any guide to give us an expectation of what would be reasonable to release? >> well, i think the best thing for the country and two
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candidates would be for them to be as transparent as possible. that's why i think it's good news if hillary clinton is going to give a full accounting and the same would be true of donald trump because so many times we haven't had that. you had it early in the show fdr in 1944, he had advanced cardiovascular disease. you could say that he looked tired, lost a lot of weight, president's entourage said he looked fine but people within the entourage observed at the time that roosevelt during certain moments in 1944, end of world war ii, was only able to work -- focus about four hours a day. the other extreme, 1956, when dwight eisenhower had this heart attack that you mentioned in '55, at first the white house was very secretive about it. then there was a backlash and they went to the other extreme, tried to reveal almost everything possible to allay public fears and that was great
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for usen hour because just before the '56 election, his opponent, adlai stevenson, went on the news saying every piece of medical knowledge and scientific knowledge suggests if you elect dwight eisenhower over me, richardnism would be president of this country within four years. people thought that was gross and made stevenson pay for it and they felt confident he could do a good job. >> attacking a president running for re-election on the basis of his health, or perceived health, that had a backlash effect, a negative effect on stevenson. has there ever been an incident where -- obviously, there have been different concerns about president candidates health over time. do you know of any instance in which that has prevented somebody from being elected or re-elected? >> not in modern times. it's never risen to the level of an issue that really cost someone an election. to some extent, because
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presidential candidates, as you were saying earlier, have been evasive. ronald reagan in 1984, however, after the first debate, gave a pretty halting performance there were many voighters who told pollsters we think the president is losing it, to the point that his opponent, walter mondale in, some polls suddenly zoomed up and was almost running even with the president. the president had a second debate with mondale, made the famous joke, i'm not going to make an issue of my opponent's youth and inexperience. mondale told me later on, you can see tears in my eyes as i'm trying to laugh at the joke. the tears were because i knew that reagan had won the election and defeated me. >> michael beschloss, nbc news presidential historian. at a time like this and motors like this absolutely invaluable. thank you, rachel. the story is continuing to evolve over this hour. stay with us.
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so the election has been under way for four days now. swing state north carolina kicked off the 2016 presidential election on friday, this past friday they sent out this very exciting form that you can use in north carolina to request a mail-in ballot. as of this morning, almost 38,000 north carolina residents have asked for one of those. the north carolina election's board tells us they've gotten 27 votes turned in already. 13 democrats, 8 republicans. one libertarian. we are in day four of the part of the presidential election where things not only count, they are officially being counted. lots more ahead tonight. stay with us.
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quote, rarely on one occasion, the same thing happened to her, meaning you, when she got severely dehydrated. can you say over the course of five years you've been dehydrated and gotten dizzy. i know you passed out and hit your head in 2012 which led to the concussion. how often has this happened? >> oh, i think really only twice, that i can recall. you know, it is something that has occurred a few times over the course of my life and i'm aware of it and usually can avoid it. what happened yesterday was that i just was incredibly committed to being at the memorial. as a senator on 9/11, this is incredibly personal to me and i could, you know, feel how hot and humid it was. i felt overheated. i decided that i did need to leave and as soon as i got into the air conditioned van, i
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cooled off, i got some water and very quickly i felt better. so i felt fine but i'm now taking my doctor's advice, which was given to me on friday that i ignored, to just take some time to get over pneumonia completely. >> hillary clinton tonight commenting on the incident yesterday which she fell ill at a 9/11 memorial event in new york city. she said tonight this has occurred, in her words, a few times over the course of her life, saying it's usually something she can avoid. tell you something i just got in. after that interview aired, a senior campaign official said tonight that in those remarks, clinton was referring to the flu/concussion incident from 2012 and what happened sunday. those were the two incidents of dehydration over the course of five years that she was referring to in that interview tonight. part of the issue here, part of the confusion, part of why i think this is an even bigger story today than it might
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otherwise be, initially, after the incident, the clinton campaign said that she was overheated. that's what went wrong. hours later, they said, actually, she had pneumonia, it had previously been diagnosed on friday and they didn't mention it. aside from the question why they didn't have the explanation ready at first and they didn't disclose the diagnosis of pneumonia until two days after she got it, does pneumonia make sense for an explanation of if not passing out, at least having your knees buckle like this? does dehydration make sense as a consequence of pneumonia? does the antibiotic regimen make a person more likely to pass out like that or have your knees buckle like that for any reason? and as the clinton campaign and trump campaign both weigh right now literally tonight what they are about to release in terms of further medical information from each of these candidates, we're due to get more information on each of them this week, what
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should we think of as a comprehensive transparent full release of medical records? what do doctors think count as a full medical history? and are we about to get that from either of these candidates? joining us now constitution natalie azar. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> is there some other direction we ought to be driving this. >> that's totally appropriate. you can go with those. >> on the issue of what counts as a comprehensive medical record -- yes >> we don't know what we're going to get from donald trump or hillary clinton other than both candidates in campaigns say something more than they've already released is about to come out. >> uh-huh. >> what do you expect? what counts as a medical record? >> it's pretty straightforward. this is pretty much medical school 101. we expect either to receive when we're receiving a patient from somebody else or we're sending a patient to another facility or doctor, there's a full list of medical problems, meaning the diagnosis, hypertension,
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diabetes, what year they were diagnosed, any complications from those things, any past surgeries, what medications the patient is on. >> all the way back to childhood? >> absolutely. family history, something called a social history which includes, are you married, do you have a job but also includes social behavior like smoking, alcohol illicit drug use and what not. what is interesting, you were pointing out earlier in your piece john mccain released a thousand page chart and that sounds rather overwhelming. one can easily put together a thousand page chart if you include every single laboratory test and every single chart note, for example, for eight years of someone's medical life. but in the sense, if someone doesn't have a remarkable medical history, that is, they don't have a significant number of medical issues as we heard from secretary clinton's doctor, she doesn't, i wouldn't expect more than a couple of pages. it should be concise. any hospitalization or any significant event or complication from a surgical
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procedure, et cetera, can all be really itemized and line-itemed relatively concisely. as i said earlier to somebody es, we don't really write in prose so much when we're writing someone's medical history. there is medical lingo we use and try to keep it pretty clear and concise and really summary rather than, you know, a length think diatribe. >> i've been struck throughout this issue, both in terms of donald trump and the strange letter. >> yes. >> -- that his gastroenterologist released and now with the concerns raised by the trump campaign and widespread concerns after people saw what happened in new york about hillary clinton's health. i've been struck by human resistance to curiosity here. i feel like i'm wired to believe this stuff is private. that said, candidates for
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president are held to a different standard. what is in a medical record that could reasonably be withheld on the basis of privacy? if you were going to look at somebody's 1,000-page complete, what would you want to redact out of there to make sure it wasn't relevant to people's concern for president. >> a list, i would sort of classify it as is euro gynecological. do i need to know the result of somebody's pap smears or mammograms? provided they were all benign and there was no history of malignancy. no, we don't need to know that. i agree. the instinct is hippa and otherwise, your medical history is private, right? just as example, when all of this started happening, yesterday, is it yesterday now? all the days are rolling into each other. i said give me a detailed analysis of what we know about hillary clinton's medical record. i started getting information and my immediate response in
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e-mailing my team was what was the workup for the blood clot, for the fainting episode back then. those questions where is actually addressed by her doctor, dr. bardey in june of 2015. she was worked up for a clotting disorder. the results were negative. when a fantding episode, guided by the patient's history and the story and the family history and what not, there's an appropriate algorithm for working up passing out. it's not the same for everybody. it appears she has been worked up appropriately and probably most appropriately at this juncture, for her physician to be untruthful meaning that even not lying but withholding something, you know, she risks her marriage, she risks her license. i can't imagine that that's the story that's unfolding this week. >> you're expecting an update
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and additional detail but nothing radically different. >> absolutely. it's not -- the timing of this has been what i've called the most auspicious thing about it. it's dramatic to see the stumble and see somebody almost faint. that's called cerebral hype ter perfusion. they look like they're about to pass out. i think the explanation behind it is rather ordinary. >> natalie azar, medical contributor. thank you very much. lots more ahead tonight. stay with us.
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and it's about projecting on to him our opens hopes and dreams. certainly we have been you could say riding his coat tails. there's been more interest in us because we are generally pro-trump because we were inspired by him and things like that. >> certainly we have been riding his coat tails, inspired by him. you look at that and you think that's what a leader looks like. this past friday, all of the leading low lights of america's white supremacist movement gave a press conference in a fancy washington, d.c. hotel ballroom. they gave a press conference why donald trump is their champion, why they as white supremacists feel so much more powerful than they did before. how he is their defact foe leader, he is so freaking awesome. he looks like exactly what we want we are the white supremacists of america and want to be taken seriously and we love donald trump. that was friday afternoon. just a few hours later, friday
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night, that was when hillary clinton made her comment about the basket of deplorables saying that half of donald trump's supporters are racist, sexist, hoom phobic, islamophobic, you name it. the republicans were outraged that she would describe half his supporters that way. she took back the word half. but you know what? which side is the one that has the problem? when you are arguing with your opponent about what percentage of your supporters are literally white supremacists? mean, basket of deplorables thing is not mitt romney's 47%, right? hillary clinton is not talking about half the country. she's talking about a subset of donald trump supporters. and the trump campaign and the republican party can definitely give a great performance now about how they offended they are but you do also have to account for this much more problematic thing going on their side of the
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aisle, the literal white supremacist press conference on friday praising donald trump as their fair leader who has brought their leader so much more the refusal to acknowledge what happened until really after that video was circulated confirms suspicion of some voters that you're not transparent or trustworthy. >> oh my goodness, anderson. you know, compare everything you know about me with my opponent. i think it's time he met the same level of disclosure that i have for years. >> after continued questions over her recent health scare, hillary clinton is on the defense saying she didn't think her pneumonia diagnosis was a big deal. plus donald trump's running mate mike pence coming under fire for what he didn't say about former kkk leader david duke. demonstration on the dance floor. protesters
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