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the injury count now close to 30. all are expected to survive. the blast sending people scrambling for safety. >> i just heard a massive explosion. i wasn't sure what it was. it almost sounded like a thunderclouthunde thunder clap. then i started to hear fire trucks and police cars and everything else. i didn't come downstairs until about 20 minutes later and there was a massive response. >> hours later in the same neighborhood where the blast occurred, authorities found what may be a second homemade explosive. it appears to have been made from a pressure cooker. officials say it resembles the bomb used in the 2013 boston marathon attacks. around midnight, new york city mare bill de blasio tried to calm fears. >> there is no evidence at this point of a terror connection to this incident.
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this is preliminary information. it's something we will be investigating very carefully, but there is no evidence at this point of a terror connection. but we do want to be very clear. the early indications, initial indications, is this was an intentional act. >> the blast followed a pipe bomb explosion in new jersey saturday. authorities say there's no evidence the two incidents are related, but they are investigating. nbc's tammy leitner is near the scene in new york where it all happened. tammy, what's the latest from there? >> reporter: good morning. still a very active scene out here. blocks and blocks to the west and north of me still closed off. there were actually two crime scenes. the explosion happened just about half a block behind me.
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on friday night, lots of locals walking around here. one described it as a bomb. he ran outside, he knew it was a bomb. he said windows were blown out on both sides of the street. he could see people had fallen to the ground from the explosion and were running. obviously a very scary situation. we're expecting an update here in a few hours. hopefully they'll have more information about that explosion, the device that went off, as well as a second scene where a pressure cooker was discovered. back to you. >> what do authorities know about the surveillance video of a dumpster that may be providing some clues? >> reporter: so last night the mayor came out and he said this was an intentional act. something that may have led him to say that is there was a video of a man walking up to a dumpster before the explosion and putting something into it.
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i'm sure police will be looking over that, reviewing it, seeing if that could lead to a possible suspect. >> how long, tammy, before the neighborhood returns to normal? >> reporter: you know, i was out here all throughout the night, and everything was closed down. you couldn't get into this area. this morning they've allowed traffic to come down fifth avenue, but there's still blocks and blocks that are closed. they're allowing some residents to come back to their home. that's on the block behind me, but still several blocks closed off to traffic and people that live me. it could be possibly the entire day this is closed off. it's still an active crime scene. >> tammy leitner, thank you for those details. for more on the investigation, let's bring in jim cavanaugh, msnbc law enforcement analyst and a former special agent in charge of the atf. thank you for being here, jim. >> good morning, reverend al. >> jim, what are authorities doing right now to determine who is behind the attack?
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>> well, here's the first thing, rev, that i would be thinking as a commander in this case. this is very interesting. you have to look at it in a macro sense. we talked about the pressure cooker device. we have to find out if that's a real device. it looks real. the bomb squad has got it. here's a disturbing fact. inspire magazine, the first edition that al qaeda put out, talked about making bombs. one of the bombs they talked about making, of course, was a pressure cooker device. it looks very similar to this and we saw it in the boston marathon. we also saw it in times square. but what's important to note there is the paragraph above that on the same page where al qaeda instructs this pressure cooker device is the most effective method, they talk about making a bomb with three pipe bombs strung together with external wires. now, that's an unusual way to make pipe bombs but that's exactly what was found in
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seaside park, new jersey at the jersey shore. i saw the live feed from nbc philadelphia. you could see the devices laid out there and one detonated, the others did not. that's kind of a crude, clumsy method where the external wires would blow them apart. but that's exactly the instruction that al qaeda put on the same page that they put the pressure cooker device. >> so the devices that were found in new jersey was exactly what was on the page that you're describing that al qaeda had laid out? >> right. and they're 80 miles apart. so that doesn't mean they're connected. what i'm trying to do is show you, rev, what's in the mind of commanders at the task force. they're going to know this, they already know this, we already know this in the business. so it's like, okay, we know we have this device on the same page exactly described as three pipe bombs wired externally. then we have the pressure cooker and this blast in chelsea. so if this pressure cooker is a real bomb filled with shrapnel
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and ball bearings and nails, if it is, then the bomb that preceded at chelsea was just to run the crowd, keep the emergency responders back there and then come in and detonate that second device. now, it might have malfunctioned. so, in other words, what you could have seen as the first bomb runs everybody back, police and fire respond, then they wanted it detonated. but it's an improvised bomb. that's why we call it an ied. just like the one in jersey, that one somewhat malfunctioned as well, so it could have malfunctioned. we don't have all the answers yet. pru the pressure cooker bomb could even be a hoax device, but there are some disturbing aspects here that could come together to tie some of this stuff together. at any rate, there is a bomber loose because the bombs at the jersey shore were placed and directed specifically to attack and kill people running that marine 5k. >> let me ask you this, jim.
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what do you think is the significance of the bomb being placed in a dumpster? does that mean anything? >> yeah, you know, it's not a placement you would think a terrorist would want to gather or garner any attention for, and that's why i say the purpose of that first bomb, if the second bomb is real, is really just to drive the crowd the other way. bring the emergency responders in. for that device you don't need much. the loud boom, the explosion, the noise, the flash, everybody gets scared and runs the other way. there's no significance to this apartment building, home for the blind, kind of a sparsely traveled street in manhattan standards. i mean, in manhattan standards, rev, as you know, you can go to times square, you can go to all kinds of corners and places in manhattan where there are a lot more people on saturday night
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than there are on that sidewalk. not to say there's not people there, and there's some restaurants, of course, like everywhere in new york, but it's not a targeted iconic place that a terrorist would want to strike. he may just be looking to strike the crowd, and on that inspire magazine page, it also says the first thing is put your bomb in a crowded area. so we don't know if any of that is going to play. we'll really know the most when we hear from the bomb squad if this is a live device. >> let me ask about the first device, jim, before i let you go. what can they find, if anything, from the debris? what will they be looking for and what will help them if they can examine the debris? what can they come out of there with? >> yeah, the first part they're looking, of course, for bomb components. was it in a container, pressure cooker, box, other container? then you're looking for the
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fuse, clock, timer, igniter fuse, anything that puts the fuse together and explosive residue. if the pressure cooker is real, do the explosive materials, the fillers, match? is it the same explosive material like tpht or some other type of explosive? they're going to put that together really quick. that's an explosive device in the dumpster, but it may not be a sophisticated device, it may just be put there, drop it in quick, have the explosion and run it toward the entrapment device if the other device is real. we just don't know yet. >> jim cavanaugh, thank you for your time this morning. >> thanks, reverend al. good to see you. >> joining me now is malcolm
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nance and nbc terrorist analyst. malcolm, thank you for being here. the new york city law enforcement says there is no proof this is an act of terrorism. how is he making that decision? >> i think he's being very careful when he uses the definition of terrorism. definition of terrorism is violence or political violence that immediately impacts the lives of an audience outside the immediate victims. that's already happened. we've had almost constant coverage since this thing went off. the second s what was the intention behind this act? it was intentional because somebody left that explosive in that dumpster. they left a second one far off. we don't know if it's connected. what do they want to do? do they want to kill first responders? do they want to just get attention? were they using it as a distraction device for something
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coming further on? that's why he won't use the word terrorism until the bomb squad and the announcer of the terrorism division gives him an idealogy to hang this terrorism definition onto. >> what does this style of attack, this style of this attack on a crowded street, what does that tell you? >> i know that street. it's very interesting. that is a relatively sparsely populated street at night. the intersection of 6th avenue, avenue of the americas -- >> compared to other locations. >> compared to other locations. if it had been one block further down at madison square park at the triangle building, that area would have been much more heavily trafficked. this individual, as he carried out surveillance, saw those dumpsters as an area of opportunity. he wanted to use them. the dumpster would actually provide a secondary shrapnel container which is what it did. the hoarding, that's the scaffolding over the building of the house of the blind, which was being renovated, could
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provide more shrapnel, could actually drop shrapnel into the street. then four blocks away, left in a near trash, a pressure cooker device which this sort of smacks of the sandy springs abortion clinic bombing back in the mid-1990s where they deliberately left a secondary device in the place that law enforcement would have gathered up. with either of those devices going off, like jim cavanaugh said, law enforcement would have been three to four blocks away in the proximity of this second device no matter which device detonated first. it appears one was either a hoax or a malfunction. >> where do people learn these kinds of things like putting the second device somewhere else and possibly feeling that first responders will be there? where do they get these tactics from? >> you would think there is a big manual of terrorism lessons learned lying all around.
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but there are many, many documents on the internet. going back to some of the old documents from the 1960s, you know, the anarchy cookbook, which is something people download all the time. tim mcvey downloaded that book. this particular attack -- i want to touch on this. this particular attack, you know, i've been asked all night, is it jihadist terrorism, is it domestic terrorism? i can tell you one thing, it's amateur terrorism. it is not real serious devices where the terrorist and the targeteer, the person who selected the target, either they decided they really wanted this to be away from people or they were testing these systems out before they move on to a very large target. and then again, we don't know whether this is tied to the new jersey pipe bombing at that 5k race. >> malcolm nance, thank you for your time and your insight this
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morning. >> it's my pleasure. >> let's go to jonathan dietz, wnbc's chief investigative reporter. jonathan, what are the biggest questions facing law enforcement right now? >> well, the biggest question is who did this and whether there is any connection, as you just heard, to the new jersey case, and that has investigators concerned if you have somebody who possibly, if all three devices are real, who possibly attempted to build three devices and plant them across the tri-state area. right now they do have evidence from the new jersey pipe bomb because it was three pipes tied together. only one of the pipes exploded, so they have a lot of evidence that they were able to recover, and right now we're told they are going to attempt to compare the evidence recovered in new jersey to the evidence that is now being recovered at the 23rd street scene in new york where the explosion took place in that
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dumpster. at this hour you have nypd teams, recovery teams working the scene, going in and looking for the pieces of whatever it was that exploded inside that dumpster, and then they're going to try to do a comparison. >> how much surveillance tape do they have to go over, jonathan? >> they have a lot of surveillance tape. we are told there was one tape recovered overnight that shows a man approaching the dumpster -- this is that first location, the 23rd street location -- a man approaching the dumpster appearing to throw something into the dumpster. that is not to say that what was thrown in was the device, too soon to know, but they want to find that person, question him, see what he knows and whether there is any connection to that explosion. but they've been canvassing all of the area from 23rd to 27th street east and west to attempt to find tapes that might help them identify who planted what
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appears to be two devices. and again, the question is, was that pressure cooker device a real device, or was it just lucky that it didn't go off and it was found in time? those are are questioquestions n the bronx where all the testing is going to be done this morning where they try to determine, if it's real, how powerful was it, how was it built, and is there any evidence, fingerprints, any other materials that could help lead them to a suspect. >> jonathan dienst, thank you for your reporting. >> thank you. still ahead, how the presidential candidates reacted to this breaking news back in their home state. we'll have live reports on both campaigns. stay with us. >> i heard a big explosion, like an explosion i never heard before. i thought in my mind that a building was collapsing.
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just before i got off the plane, a bomb went off in new york and nobody knows exactly what's going on, but boy, we are living in a time we better get very tough, folks. we better get very, very tough. just happened. so we'll find out, but it's a terrible thing that's going on in our world and in our country, and we are going to get tough and smart and vigilant. and we're going to end it. we're going to end it. we'll see what it is. we'll see what it is. >> the new york explosion had an
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immediate impact on the presidential race. that was donald trump responding shortly after the blast last night. nbc's hallie jackson is live in miami, florida where trump will be campaigning tomorrow. hallie, what's the view on this from the trump campaign this morning? >> reporter: well, listen, you got to look at the timing of his remarks, the remarks you just played when he was at that late-night rally in colorado springs. what you didn't see from sort of the time stamp on that was trump made those comments, really, just minutes after reports of the explosion began coming out. not even confirmed reports, but reports in general. an aide telling nbc news that trump was told about this while he was on his plane, his trump plane that goes with him everywhere. he was on the plane for about 13 minutes before he got off and began speaking at this rally, and we are told that is when trump learned of what had happened in the chelsea district of manhattan. it's possible that because trump
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is a new yorker, he had particularly heightened interest about this, but he got off his plane, got on a stage and made those comments you talked about. again, very quickly after the explosion happened. to this point it has not been made clear who trump was briefed by or how he got his information, all we know is his message was consistent with what we have heard from him in the past after other moments of crises. so, for example, whether it's the orlando shooting, whether it's other events that have happened internationally, trump has tried to come out and he said similar things. he's portrayed that theme before, this idea that he is going to be the law and order candidate, that the u.s. must be tough and vigilant. i suspect we will hear more from trump over the next 24 to 48 hours about this explosion in chelsea. while he doesn't have any campaign events today, he is back on the trail in battleground florida tomorrow. >> hallie jackson, thanks for your report. now let's turn to nbc's
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christichrikristin welker at the white house. she's covering hillary clinton. kristin, how does the clinton campaign think this incident will affect the race? >> it's going to put a renewed look on national security, no doubt about that, and of course we have the big debate coming up just several days away now. that's one aspect of this. when you talk about the timing, secretary clinton responded in a very different way than donald trump. she was speaking last night at the congressional black caucus dinner, as you well know, reverend al, and she was briefed afterwards on the events in new york, new jersey and minnesota, and she gave this very measured response on her campaign plane with reporters, talked about the need to support first responders but also said it's important to wait and see what the investigation bears out. she was asked specifically about the fact that donald trump said that this was a bomb and that he responded so quickly. take a listen to that exchange. >> secretary, do you have any reaction to the fact that donald trump upon immediately taking
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the stage tonight called the explosion in new york a bomb? >> well, i think it's important to know the facts about any incident like this. that's why it's critical to support the first responders, the investigators who are looking into it trying to determine what did happen. >> reporter: and this is typical of what we see from secretary clinton. when one of these incidents happens, she sort of waits to weigh in on the broader investigation until there are actually facts known about the motive and the details of what happened. now, she is off the campaign trail today. she'll be in philadelphia tomorrow, according to millennial voters, but i anticipate we'll hear more from her about this and she will likely take a few questions from reporters. meanwhile, i'm here at the white house. president obama was also at the presidential black caucus dinner last night. he was briefed on this situation. at this point no updates from the white house this morning but we know they're monitoringclosed
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al. >> kristin welker, thank you for your reporting. we'll have more on the new york city explosion, but first we turn to president obama's fiery speech here in washington. he talked about donald trump and what's at stake in this election. >> all the progress we've made is at stake in this election! my name may not be on the ballot, but our progress is on the ballot. ♪ take on any road with intuitive all-wheel drive. the nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. now get 0% apr for 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash.
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i mean, isil, north korea, poverty, climate change, none of those things weighed on my mind like the validity of my birth certificate. in other breaking news, the world is round, not flat. >> president obama last night at an awards dinner for the presidential black caucus, mocking donald trump's admission that he was born in the u.s. the president gave a spirited, fiery speech on the importance of this election, taking aim directly at trump's statements about african-americans. >> you may have heard hillary's opponent in this election say that there has never been a worse time to be a black person. he missed that whole civics lesson about slavery and jim crow. but we got a museum for him to
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visit! so he can tune in. he says we got nothing left to lose, so we might as well support somebody who has fought against civil rights and fought against equality, and who has shown no regard for working people for most of his life. while we do have challenges, we're not stupid. >> the president also laid out what's at stake in this election. >> if you care about our legacy, realize everything we stand for is at stake, all the progress we've made is at stake in this election. my name may not be on the ballot but our progress is on the ballot. tolerance is on the ballot, democracy is on the ballot. justice is on the ballot.
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good schools are on the ballot. ending mass incarceration, that's on the ballot right now. and there is one candidate who will advance those things. and there is another candidate whose defining principle, the central theme of his candidacy, is opposition to all that we've done. >> joining me now is congressman emanuel cleaver, democrat of missouri, and a member of the congressional black caucus. he was at the cbc event last night, as i was. thank you for being here, congressman. >> good to be with you. >> first of all, what's your reaction to the president's remarks last night? >> i know this is not going to go down as one of the great speeches of barack obama, but for me, it was the best speech i've heard because it was a fine
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mixture of policy and sermonic material. he delivered a revival sermon last night that was powerful. >> both of us being preachers, we could really appreciate that. and he was very, very pointed. >> yes. >> and seemed very relaxed, in my opinion. >> i told somebody last night, i said, you know, he was loose. it was like any restraints that had been on him, they were gone, and he was just as pointed -- nope, when that speech ended, there was not a single person of the 5,000 people there who was confused. >> part of what we've heard a lot of is the lack of enthusiasm among african-american voters. i'm hearing it all over the country. and i think that he really went after that last night. you get the sense he really wanted to energize and almost, in many ways, challenge a lot of
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people that have said that they don't know whether they want to vote or they're not enthusiastic. he said at one point he would take it as an insult if there wasn't a large black turnout of voters. >> that was one of the most powerful lines of the speech, when he said, i'm going to take it as an insult, because the one thing that the people there certainly don't want to do is insult barack obama. and i really believe that as people are getting up this morning and taking planes all over the country, a higher level of enthusiasm may be the result of that speech last night, because i think people are going out saying what they may not have thought before, and that is, this man's legacy is on the line. how do we know? he's told us. and i think people have been listening to this campaign and realize that much of what he has tried to do would be erased by the other candidate. >> and he laid it out, he laid out the unemployment figures in terms of african-americans, he's
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cut them in half. he laid out the report that came out about the families in terms of wealth has gone up, and in terms of income, median income, has gone up. all of that, he's saying, could be wiped out. and i think the direct connection he was trying to make is that his candidate, hillary clinton, would be the only way to keep that going. >> after the speech, i was sitting at a table with a friend, and i turned to him -- because he's not as progressive or liberal as i am, and i said, when you go back home, i would like for you to talk to your friends and have them call me and tell me what they're angry about. the economy is better than it has been. we are almost at full employment right now, so all of this gloom about the world is coming to an end is just fake. it's not real. and we have isis on the run
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finally. i think the president told us last night, in case we had forgotten, what happened from the beginning of his administration to now. i was there when the economy of the united states and perhaps the economy of the world was on the line. and i think he saved it. >> let me ask you this. you've been around a while, as i have, in the civil rights community. have you ever seen -- i'm referring to the president quoting donald trump. have you ever seen a republican candidate's platform, two african-americans, though they mostly do not get a lot of african-american votes, but there's been overages. have you ever seen the platform of you have nothing to lose to vote for me? >> i think whoever his advisers are told him to say to african-americans, you have nothing to lose. talk about insulting.
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that is insulting. what he's saying is i may not have anything for you, you know, but you're not going to lose anything because i'm not going to take anything further away from your goals and dreams than you are now. it is my hope that the president last night inspired the nation, and i think he did. you know, donald trump was invited to the dinner and chose not to come, of course. and so i think what he's trying to do is go to black churches, and going to a black church no more makes him a friend than going to bed makes me a mattress. so i think that that's -- i mean, by now i think his advisers are probably telling him, you know, it's not working. >> it's questionable whether he's going to black churches to get black voters or just appear to independent white voters that i'm not really racist, so he
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does these kinds of stops. congressman emanuel cleaver, nice to talk to you this morning. >> good to be with you. we'll head to new york city the morning after a powerful blast. now authorities are trying to figure out who planted explosives and why. just say show me millions of used cars for sale at the all new carfax.com. i don't want one that's had a big wreck just say, show me cars with no accidents reported pretty cool i like it that's the power of carfax® find the cars you want, avoid the ones you don't plus you get a free carfax® report with every listing start your used car search at carfax.com [ala♪m beeping] ♪
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we don't know much more than we did a few hours ago, only that it's ongoing, that police and city officials have said they believe it was an intentional act, that there is a video in police custody that shows someone walking up and throwing a bomb or a device into a dumpster before the explosion, the explosion y're looking at right now. they also did uncover this unexploded pressure cooker bomb, a pressure cooker wrapped with duct tape with wires coming out of it. they are clearly looking at that device right now and seeing if there is any connection between these two incidents here in manhattan just a few blocks apart and the pipe bomb that exploded just a few hours before that last night incident in new jersey. the question of motive is still an open question. they have so much evidence right now, video evidence, bomb
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fragme fragments, an unexploded device. it seems they have quite a bit to work with. >> richard engel, thank you for your reporting. up next we'll turn back to the presidential race. elizabeth warren had some tough words for donald trump. stay with us. aac hou has masterd gravity defying moves to amaze his audience. great show. here you go. now he's added a new routine. making depositing a check seem so effortless. easy to use chase technology, for whatever you're trying to master. isaac, are you ready? yeah. chase. so you can. ♪ ♪
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born in the u.s., but he didn't offer any apologies. but just hours later, he sparked another controversy, daring hillary clinton's secret service to dissolarm. >> she goes a arouround with ar bodyguards like you've never seen before. i think her bodyguards should drop all weapons, they should disarm. i think they should disarm immediately. what do you think? yeah. take their guns away. she doesn't want guns. let's see what happens to her. >> senator warren responded to trump's comments, calling him a, quote, bully. >> donald trump has repeatedly invited his supporters to commit a horrific act of violence
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against his opponent, against another human being. i just want you to think for a minute, what kind of a man does that? a bully. a twisted bully who can't fight his own fights, who can't run a fair fight, who will never be president of the united states. that's who! >> joining me now is michelle coddle from the atlantic and rich gallen, republican strategist. rich, let's start with trump's line about disarming the secret service. what's the reaction in gop circles? >> i'm the wrong guy to ask if you want someone to defend trump, but it goes back to what he said a couple months ago about the second amendment. he is back in -- >> he said those guys in the second amendment would know how to take care of that. >> he gets in trouble when he gets off message, when kellyann
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goes to the bathroom or whatever happens and she leaves his side, and he just runs right back to being in primary election mode, trying to gin up his base again and again and again, when he was making, i think, some progress in expanding the people -- >> have you ever seen anything, elizabeth, where you've got a candidate that you've got -- michelle, where you've got to have them stick to the teleprompter, stick to the script, skpand using rich's ter hope the campaign manager didn't go to the bathroom, and while they're gone -- i'm using your phrase -- they messed up or something? have you ever seen anything like this? >> this is the first reality show candidate we've had as a nominee, and that's the mode he is always in. you can call it primary mode or reality tv mode where his impulse is always to make a splash, to say the most
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outrageous, controversial thing, and that's consistently what he does. and as you point out, they really have to white-knuckle it and rein him in. >> what voting base, michelle, is he going after here? >> he's going after the base that is angry and hates hillary clinton and thinks everybody is out to get them and who is just really upset with the establishment in general. they think they have gotten a raw deal, and he's the man who is going to save them. it's that last part that everybody should really kind of rethink. >> but i think donald trump effectively got the nomination on september 18, 2008 when lehman went down. and everything that followed from that, and regular people lost a ton of money, they lost their houses, and nobody went to bat for them. >> the economic conditions. would that explain why all of these what we would consider mistakes, he is still doing well in the polls?
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you've seen the polls tighten up this week. >> we report on these things like a football game where if one team has the ball and they get a 10-yard gain, they go, well, they're going to win because they got a 10-yard gain. we've got 50-some days to go. it has the feeling to me, though, it's like a professional basketball team, where one team is ahead and the other catches up, falls back, catches up. in the end, the team that was ahead in the first place wins. >> i'm surprised he is still in the game when i read about some of the gaffes he's done. i would have been out of the game a long time ago. the president remarked last night about the birther issue. what was your sense of the reason he finally came up with this and does it have any impact at all? >> he needs to get this issue out of the way before the debates, before everybody gets serious and starts questioning him about some of the things he's gotten away with. he was the most outrageous
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proponent of this cockamamie idea. he doesn't want to have to answer for it so he's trying to get it off the table, and he's doing like he always does. oh, well, i said this, so let's just all forget about it. >> so he's getting it out before the debates. rich, what does this do to his core followers who believed in the birther? >> if you look at his comments almost immediately afterwards, his vocal supporters said, that was really nudge, nudge, wink, wink. we know what he really believes. i did a show friday night with charles blow of the "new york times," a black guy, very, very serious thinker. i was talking about the birther thing like a political tactician. he felt it in his dna. he was profoundly angry. >> a lot of people did, because it was like this whole thing of
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other than us, a dog whistle. in fact, the last time a year and a half ago that i talked to donald trump, that was what our argument was, and he was trying to say it had no racial implications. h all of that to us. >> exactly. >> michelle coddle and raich galen, thank you for your time this morning. we'll be right back. it's the phillips' lady! anyone ever have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas or bloating? [ simultaneously ] she does. help defend against those digestive issues. take phillips' colon health probiotic caps daily with three types of good bacteria. 400 likes? wow!
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