leaders the importance that israel could play in helping them train their own entrepreneurial spirit. when he traveled the arab world, as he did often, he would not t as a great country. he would talk about israel as an inspiration for young arabs to become entrepreneurs. >> it is fitting the anecde bill clinton gave saying the unthinkable happened. that there is a tweet learning about the death of shimon peres. the first day without shimon peres. i believe there was a facebook reference you made as well. >> he had a great saying. he said we are the people of the book from an ancient land and now we are people of facebook. >> in fact, as we are waiting for president obama to speak, he'll wrap up some of the eulogies here. just moments away. we want to show you some of the words from bill clinton, from his eulogy moments ago.

>> yesterday, the prime minister did something that was unthinkable back in the dark ages when i was president of the united states. he sent out a tweet and the tweet reminded us of a simple fact. it was israel's first day without shimon peres. for more than 70 of his 93 years. one way or the other, in and out of government, he was a public servant. i was honored to sha almost 25 of those years with him. first in our common efforts with prime minister rabin, a blessed memory to forge a peace between

israel and palestinians. then just as his friends. someone who listened to, learned from and laughed with him and always was in awe of his endless capacity to move beyond even the most crushing setbacks in order to seize the possibilities of each new day. i am honored the family asked me to tell you what he meant to someone who is not a citizen of this country i love so much. but who was nevertheless blessed and inspired. i think in many ways is representative of millions more. he touched though he never

missed. >> former president bill clinton sharing his thoughts and feelings about the passing of shimon peres saying he was in awe of shimon peres's endless capacity of looking beyond s setbacks and was optimistic about each new day and what it brought. we are watching at mount herzl the children of shimon peres speaking. i want to talk about and understand that shimon peres planned the funerals. these were his instructions. how much ofhat we are seeing in the ceremony is signature of shimon peres and really abiding with jewish, hebrew culture here and religion. you can note it was simple. there are no flowers, nothing grand. nothing that you think would equate a man of his stature and a statesman we knew.

>> mr. peres probably wore a tie less than most israeli presidents. israel is a very informal society, a direct society. israelis don't want to see pretpr pretension in leaders. it was hard for him to connect. these are people who don't respect what essentially is the old world ways. they are indeed people who expect leaders to be tough, aggressive and a renaissance man who wrote over a dozen books. the last book was a touching word from his mentor. as you scan many of the books he's written the books were written in hebrew and in

english. yet at the same time they are not national best sellers in israel. it is an indication of how much he had to wrestle for respect and admiration of israelis until his later years. despite the fact that he was defense minister he never served in the israeli defense forces. it was that lack of what israelis impute to their leaders, the military prowess that under mines his ability to convince them peace was good. it was one thing for rabin or benjamin netanyahu. these were men who fought in their wars. >> we'll listen to the son of shimon peres. he's speaking in english. we'll listen to what he has to

say. >> we believe that if he could he would have used this opportunity to remind us all that the role of leaders today is to serve their people and that there is no greater responsibility and no greater privilege than that. he saw in all of you leaders, friends around partners in his quest for peace. we will treasure his memory and honor his legacy. with your permission i will switch to hebrew and say a few words about my father. i'm sorry. [ speaking hebrew ] >> one of the sons of the late

president of shimon peres. ambassador ginsburg remains with us. i want to talk about what benjamin netanyahu tweeted out saying this is the first day for israel without shimon peres. something that was also brought up by former president bill clinton in his eulogy. who is the new elder statesman of israel. who will fill the so many shoes that former president peres wore in that country? >> it is a question most israelis are wrestling with. here is benjamin netanyahu, now the longest serving prime minister in israel's history. he's achieved that milestone. >> there have been remarkable prime ministers and israeli politicians. >> absolutely. when you look at his successor

ruben rivalin. benjamin netanyahu's political party. he's emerging in many respects as the inheritor of mr. peres's legacy. he's speaking truth to power. he's speaking truth to the conscious of israel at a time when israel's civil society is under stress because of the religious community against women. mr. rivalin has been supporting gay rights, supporting women's rights. demanding that is supreme court in israel be respected. you have to essentially give mr. rivalin a lot of credit. a lot of mr. peres's legacy is rubbing off on rivalin. >> we expect president obama to speak in a few minutes.

as soon as mr. peres's son wraps up his eulogy of his father. one thing we talk about at the beginning of the coverage were the dignitaries there. one notable absence of any arab leaders. talk about what that is a testament to given the current relationship israel has be its neighbors. we talked about rabin's funeral attended by mubarak. you mentioned jordanian deputy prime minister. what does it say about the state of relations between israel and its neighbors? >> ironically it says symbolically arabs are reluctant to be seen with a person not viewed in the arab world by what

i would call the arab street as a great leader of peace because many arabs understand the history he served at a time when he was one of the most girlfriend military leaders in israel who ultimately supported the settlement policy. as the signer of the oslo accords he didn't deliver the peace. arabs still hold him accountable. yet most arab leaders got to know him personally. i suspect many would have preferred to have been there. they should have come. it would have been important. and israel is entering into an important time as iran becomes

of power. saudi arabia, egypt. their relationship with israel are becoming far more significant in many respects their relationship is becoming in effect a matter of importance and convenience to the arab states. it is more ironic that the leaders didn't come as a symbolic testament to the importance of the growing israeli ties. >> you heard former president clinton's eulogy. he referenced shimon peres's mistakes. what do you think those were throughout his time as the leader of israel, symbolically as president and as chief executive and prime minister. >> i don't think there were many mistakes we can point to during mr. peres's time as president. from the time he entered politics in 1959 he competed aggressively with other lears in the labor party for

management and control. he was very much a loner and a schemer. his reputation suffered as a result. i think those of us who -- look, no one is perfect. most israelis know mr. peres was far from perfect. because in those years in which he was maneuvering to be prime minister and did achieve it several times but then lost it, i think israelis felt he outmaneuvered himself out of many positions. >> those are words we heard from former president clinton. now we are hearing from shimon peres's son awaiting the final speaker which is going to be president obama. what is it, again, as he's wrapping up. we are expecting to see president obama any moment. what can you expect to hear from the president?

>> the two men shared a vision for a two-state solution in the region. president peres bestowed on president obama that israel's high civilian award and in return president obama bestowed on israeli president peres the highest award, the highest civilian award for the united states. the two of them in effect -- obama saw mr. peres as the bridge between him and benjamin netanyahu when their relationship deteriorated. >> personally what was it like between the two? >> the two got along famously. you can see the pictures that came out of every white house meeting. they shared a philosophical commitment to a broader peace and a vision for peace between israel and the arab world. this was a vision president obama had when he went to the arab world in 2009 to when he gave his famous speech in cairo

to the muslim world. they shared a vision. >> we expect president obama shortly. you see the son of the late president shimon peres shaking hands with former president bill clinton, expressing his condolences to other people who have come to the funeral of shimon peres. >> as expected it is very emotional. we see the president approaching the podium. he's being introduced. let's listen. the president is going to be speaking. [ speaking hebrew ] >> generations of the peres family, president rivalin, prime

minister benjamin netanyahu, members of the israeli government, heads of state, and government and guests from around the world including president abbas whose presence here is a gesture and a reminder of the unfinished business of peace, to the people of israel, i could not be more honored to be in jerusalem to say farewell to my friend shimon peres who showed us that justice and hope are at the heart of the zionist idea. a free life in a homeland

regained. a secure life in a nation that can defend itself by itself. a full life in friendship with nations who can be counted on as allies. always. a bountiful life driven by the simple pleasures of family and by big dreams. this was shimon peres's life. this is the state of israel. this is the story of the jewish people over the last century. it was made possible by a founding generation that counts shimon as one of its own.

shimon once said the message of the jewish people to mankind is that faith and moral vision can triumph over all adversity. for shimon the moral vision was rooted in an honest reckoning of the world as it is. born in the shadow he said he felt surrounded in the sea by a threatening force. when the family got the chance to go to palestine his beloved grandfather's parting words were simple. shimon, stay a jew. propelled with that faith he found his home. he found his purpose. he found his life's work.

but he was still a teenager when his grandfather was burned alive by the nazis in the town where shimon was born. the synagogue in which he prayed became an inferno. the railroad tracks which carried him toward the promised land also delivered so many of his people to death camps. from an early age shimon bore witness to the cruelty that human beings could inflict on each other. the ways that one group of people could dehumanize another. the particular madness of antisemitism. which has run like a stain through history. that understanding of man's ever present sinfulness would steal him against hardship and make

him vigilant against threats around the world. but that understanding would never harden his heart. it would never extinguish his faith. instead, it broadened his moral imagination and gave him the capacity to see all people as deserving of dignity and respect. it helped him see not just the world as it is, but the world as it should be. what shimon did to shape the story of israel is well chronicled.

he found ed the kibutz with his love and began to form a community. he was asked to serve at headquarters to make sure the jewish people at the armaments and the organization to secure their freedom. after independence surrounded by enemies who denied israel's existence and sought to drive it into the sea, the child who wanted to be a poet of stars became a man who built israel's defense industry. who laid the foundation of the formidable forces who won israel's wars. his skills secured israel's strategic position. his boldness sent israeli commandos and rescued jews from ethiopia. his statesmanship built an

unbreakable bond with the united states of america in so many other countries. his contributions didn't end there. shimon also showed what people can do when they harness reason and science to a common cause. he understood that a country without many natural resources could more than make up for it with the talents of its people. he made hard choices to roll back inflation and climb out from a terrible economic crisis. he championed the promise of science and technology to make the desert bloom and turned this tiny country int a central hub of the digital age. making life better not just for people here but for people around the world.

indeed, shimon's contribution to this nation is so fundamental, so pervasive that perhaps sometimes they can be overlooked. for a younger generation, shimon was probably remembered more for a peace process that never reached its end point. they would listen to critics on the left who might argue that shimon did not fully acknowledge the failings of his nation. or perhaps more numerous critics on the right who argued he refused to see the true wickedness of the world and called him naive.

but whatever he shared with his family or his closest friends, to the world he brushed off the critics. i know from my conversations with him that his pursuit of peace was never naive. he read the names of the family that he lost. as a young man he had fed his village by working in the fields during the day but then defending it by carrying a rifle at night. he understood in this war torn region where too often arab youth are taught to hate israel from an early age. he understood just how hard

peace would be. i'm sure he was alternatively angry and bemused to hear the same critics who called him hopelessly naive depend on the defense architecture he himself helped to build. i don't believe he was naive. but he understood from hard earned experience that true security comes from making peace with your neighbors. we won them all, he said of israel's wars. we didn't win the greatest victory we aspired to. released from the need to win victories. and just as he understood the practical necessity of peace,

shimon believed israel's exceptionalism was rooted not only in fidelity to the jewish people but to the moral and ethical vision, the precepts of his jewish faith. the jewish people weren't born to rule another people, he would say. from the very first day, we are against slaves and masters. out of the hardships of the diaspura, he found room in his heart for others who suffered. he came to hate prejudice with the passion of one who knows how it feels to be its target. even in the face of terrorist

attacks. even after repeated disappointments at the negotiation table. he insisted that as human beings, palestinians must be seen as equal, indignity to jews and must therefore be equal in self-determination. because of his sense of justice, his analysis of israel's security, his understanding of israel's meaning he believed that the zionist idea would best be protected when palestinians, too, had a state of their own. of course, we gather here in the knowledge that shimon never saw his dream of peace fulfilled. the region is going through a

chaotic time. threats are ever present. and yet he didn't stop dreaming and he did not stop working. by the time that i came to work with shimon he was in the twilight of his years, although he might not admit it. i would be the tenth u.s. president since john f. kennedy to sit down with shimon. the tenth to fall prey to his charms. i think of him sitting in the oval office. this final member of israel's founding generation. under the portrait of george washington. telling me stories from the past but more often talking with

enthusiasm of the present. his most recent lecture. his next project. his plans for the future. the wonders of his grandchildren. in many ways he reminded me of some other giants of the 20th century that i have had the honor to meet. men like nelson mandela, women like her majesty queen elizabeth. leaders who have seen so much, whose lives span such momentous epochs they find no need to posture or traffic in what's popular in the moment. people who speak with depth and

knowled knowledge, not in sound bites. they find no interest in polls or fads. like these leaders, shimon could be true to his convictions even if they cut against the grain of current opinion. he knew better than the cynic that if you look out over the arc of history, human beings should be filled not with fear but with hope. i'm sure that was why he was excited about technology. for him it symbolized the march of human progress. it's why he loved so much to talk about young people. he saw young people unburdened by the prejudices of the past.

it's why he believed in miracles. because in israel he saw a miracle come true. as americans and israelis we often talk about the unbreakable bonds between our nations. yes, these bonds encompass common interests. vital cooperation that makes both our nations more secure. today we are reminded that the bonds which matter most run deeper. anchored in a judeo-christian value we believe in the value of every human being. our nations were built on that idea. they were built in large part by stubborn idealists and striving

immigrants including those who fled war and oppression. both our nations have flaws that we have not always fixed. corners of our history which date back to the founding that we do not always squarely address. because our founders planted not just flags in the eternal soil but also planted the seeds of democracy. we have the ability to always pursue a better world. we have the capacity to do what is right. as an american, as a christian, a person partly of african

descent, morn in hawaii, a place that could not be further than where shimon spent his youth, i took great pleasure in my friendship with this older, wiser man. we shared a love of words and books and history. and perhaps, like most politicians we shared too great a joy in hearing ourselves talk. but beyond that, i think our friendship was rooted in the fact that i could somehow see myself in his story. maybe he could see himself in mine because for all of our difference differences, both of us had lived such unlikely lives. it was so surprising to see the

two of us where we had started talking together in the white house, meeting here in israel. i think both of us understood that we were here only because in some way we reflected the magnificent story of our nations. shimon's story. the story of israel. the experience of the jewish peop people. i believe it is universal. it is the story of a people who over so many centuries in the wilderness never gave up on the basic human longing to return home. it's the story of a people who suffered the boot of oppression and the shutting of the gas

chamber's door and yet never gave up on a belief in goodness. it's the story of a man who was counted on and then often counted out again and again and who never lost hope. shimon peres reminds us that the state of israel like the united states of america was not built by cynics. we exist because people before us refused to be constrained by the past or the difficulties of the present. shimon peres was never cynical. it is that faith, that optimism, that belief even when all the evidence is to the contrary that tomorrow can be better that

makes us not just honor shimon peres but love him. the last of the founding generation is now gone. shimon accomplished enough in his life for a thousand men. but he understood it is better to live to the very end of his time on earth with a longing not for the past but for the dreams that have not yet come through. an israel that's a secure and lasting peace with its neighbors. this is in the hand of israel's next generation. in the hands of israel's next generation and its friends. like joshua we feel the weight of responsibility shimon seemed to wear so lightly. we draw strength from his example and the fact that he believed in us.

even when we doubted ourselves. scripture tells us before his death moses said, i call upon heaven and earth to bear witness this day that i have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. therefore, choose life that you and your offspring may live. [ speaking hebrew ] choose life. for shimon let us choose life as he always did. let us make his work our own. may god bless his memory and my god bless this country and this world that he loved so dearly. shimon -- [ speaking hebrew ]

choose life. the culminating words of barack obama as he eulogizes former israeli prime minister and president shimon peres. speaking with him as the tenth president to meet with the former prime minister and also saying he was the tenth president to fall prey to his charms. interesting how he categorized his friendship saying it was rooted with both men, both leaders seeing themselves in each other. i want to bring in ambassador mark ginsburg who's been listening to the president's remarks about shimon peres. interesting how he saw this and is paralleling themselves. >> i was inspired by president

obama's words. this was valedictory. a troubled, at times, relationship with the prime minister, but in all of his statements it was clear that he and president peres shared a vision for a better middle east. the two of them spent a great deal of time and effort trying to figure out how to achieve that. john kerry, as soon as he was appointed secretary of state, within two weeks stood up before the israeli people and said, i will bring peace to you within nine months. one more in a failed line of american diplomatic initiatives. yet at the same time president obama was an absolute committed friend to israel's safety and security. >> he acknowledged it. he said we gather here with the

vision. shimon peres's vision of peace un-phil mahred and saying many of the younger generation now may remember this man and the peace process as something that has never been reached. never saw an endpoint. >> this was, indeed, why so many of the speeches we have heard this morning used the word naive. >> president clinton. >> president obama mentioned it. it was interesting. this was the accusation that the right wing and those who defected from the peace wing of isz reel's society came to view president peres's failure which is that he didn't appreciate the danger that the peace he wanted to see achieved to israelis. so as a result, there was a great credibility gap between his own belief and the views of

average israelis as to whether or not he was too naive. he could not lead them to the promised land. he didn't understand that the land was dangerous. >> let's give viewers a quick update on the left side of the screen. or now on the full screen. you are seeing the casket of the late president being carried away by members of the israeli military. he will be interred there on mount herzl, the national cemetery of israel. ambassador ginsburg, were you surprised that the president also took this opportunity to discuss so many of the short comings of the peace process. he made a note of singling out president abbas saying it was the your in still ahead, the unfinished journey so to speak. brought it up again in his eulogy. >> indeed. in fact, a troubled and challenging relationship that president obama had even with the palestinian president abbas

was on display. in many respects it was quite interesting that president abbas himself is at the end of his term as president and soon will depart the scene as president of the palestinian authority. he was never able to forge the relationship with president obama. it was quite clear to those of us who watched this evolve over the years of this administration that the only person the president developed a kinship with was president peres. >> in his words president obama said the friendship is rooted in them seeing themselves in each other. what were the parallels? >> the parallels of intellectual commitment and willingness to speak truth to power, to take risks for peace, to believe ultimately that the commitment that the united states and

israel had with each other was more than merely just a matter of convenience but a commitment to shared principles for peace. the two had a capacity to understand that without both countries having the leadership to help forge the peace that peace would not be obtained. in many respects it was an indication by president obama of the challenging relationships he's had with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> a live look at the procession following the coffin of shimon peres as they are now proceeding to the interment ceremony which will be shown on screens outside the graveyard at mount herzl. shimon peres will be in a reserve plot next to yitzhak

rabin's grave. tell us about what will be said. >> the most important prayer is the prayer for the dead. it will probably be recited by one of the children or by the chief rabbi of israel. i'm not sure which one the family decided. this entire funeral was planned by president peres. in israel, funerals are short and to the point. just like israelis. there is not a great deal of ceremony that's attendant with the burial. it is the jewish ritual to have bodies not even buried in caskets. but in cloth. >> we saw this ceremony. this funeral reflective of shimon peres. it was simple. there were no adornments, decorations or flowers. as you described really reflective of him. >> isn't it interesting also

when you look at the schedule and the agenda of this funeral service, only american leaders spoke. there were no leaders from europe. there were no leaders from any other part of the world who were called or in effect part of the program. i'm trying to wrestle with that as to why president peres only wanted both the former president of the united states as well as the current president of the united states to be the speakers. there were so many other foreign dignitaries in the audience. >> why do you think that is? >> i suspect it was symbolic of the commitment and belief that although president peres was a man of many talents, experiences and friendships around the world, i do believe he placed so much emphasis on the relationship between the american people and israel. >> yeah. in fact, president obama was

quoted as saying his statesmanship built an unbreakable bond with the united states. >> indeed. from the time president peres first met president kennedy jus elected, this relationship that was forged over seven decades with the united states, those of us who attended so many jewish conferences in the united states where president peres was speaker was indication of his commitment and actual faith and love for the american people. >> and the friendships he's forged, one with president clinton, who you spoke with him the last hour saying shimon peres is someone he listened to, he laughed with, he learned from, and also acknowledging the challenges and struggles of shimon peres, this is president clinton speaking about shimon peres. >> to make the most of today and

claim the promise of tomorrow. now, it must have been hard for him to do this. it's easy to say things like this at a memorial service. it's hard to do. first, he had to master his own demons, forgive himself for his own mistakes, and get over his own disappointments. the monumental effort required to do that grew his heart to be bigger than his brain, which is really saying something. >> former president bill clinton in his eulogy for shimon peres. atmosphere again ambassador ginsburg, when you hear those words, shaping the

israel that we know today, what are those demons and what were those turning points when he acknowledged them? >> i think the demons was his sense that he and the israeli people had an extraordinarily challenging relationship at times, that he had not achieved the validation of the israeli public until he actually became the ceremonial leader of israel as president, and i want to say for those of us who were raised in israel and i spent most of my formative years growing up there, he was in some respects in the shadow of other great israeli leaders, and he never served as prime minister long enough to place his stamp on israel's own government, as well as on its own policies. he was either defense minister or foreign minister, he hardly served as prime minister for more than a year or two at any given time. >> there were those within israel, certainly left of shimon

peres, who were critical of him not being left enough or not being peace enough in his final years and even some rejecting the label of calling him a man of peace, particularly with what's happened in some of the neighboring countries, including lebanon with the khan attack in 1996. a lot of human rights organizations critical of the israeli government at the time. was he able to bridge that gap with the irlsraeli left by the time he became that statesman? did he speak on behalf of the new israeli left and those pushing for peace? >> i think the israeli left has more or less evaporated under the weight of the struggle the israeli people feel right now and the strain of a right wing government and ideological shift in the israeli popular public opinion about peace and about the palestinian people and about the idealism that drove israel

to a socialist background, and i suspect that he -- the israeli left is in tatters largely because of the failure of all of these peace processes that have failed to fulfill their hopes and expectations. it requires a great deal of strength and conviction and credibility to stand up in israel and say that you support peace, you're almost denigrated by the average israeli now is someone who's in left field and out of touch and naive. >> interesting you bring up that word, because both presidents obama and president clinton in their words, in their eulogy both credit that as shimon peres as naive, president obama saying i don't believe that, same with president clinton, saying we see the optimism beyond the naivety. what was the naivety many of his

critics saw? >> i think the belief in the oslo accords that would forge a new partnership with the palestinians, that the palestinian people would embrace israel's right as a jewish state. the palestinian-israeli conflict is not a morality play. everyone is a victim in a failed peace process, and yet at the same time as we're watching this and we're watching the jewish prayers for the dead being recited, i think many israelis probably are looking at his burial as perhaps the burial of the last champion for peace in israel, that had the credibility to rise to the level of president. >> ambassador, i know that we were talking about this earlier, on a personal level, this hits close to home for you. you knew shimon peres personally and throughout this as we're seeing these emotional scenes, reflect for us in the few

minutes we have here what this night means for you personally, what you think it means for the jewish people, for israel. >> i spent my formative years in israel and came back to serve as president carter's deputy adviser during the camp david negotiations. i had a palestinian blood brother growing up in israel, which was odd for an american in israel to have. my family sacrificed a great deal in israel. i lost my mother and brother there during the 2006 war with lebanon, and i never -- and i don't think most israelis, and i wasn't israeli, but the rest of my family was, we never lost the belief that in the end something good could come out of a commitment to bring about a peace that ultimately will provide israelis safety and security they deserve. israel, watching peres pass, to

me, is almost watching the voice of conscience in israel that was willing to stand up to all of the reality that israel's now embracing and having to confront disappear. it's a matter of sadness for me. >> as it is for many of the israeli people, as it is for many of the people there attending this state funeral and now the internment. president obama spoke within the last hour about shimon peres, and here's a little bit of what president obama had to share. >> and i know from my conversations with him his pursuit of peace was never naive. every year he read the names of the families he lost. as a young man he had fed his village by working the fields during the day, but then defending it by carrying a rifle at night.

he understood in this war torn region where too often arab youth are taught to hate israel from an early age, he understood just how hard peace would be. >> president obama speaking just moments ago on shimon peres and also saying that he was the tenth president to fall prey to his charms. ambassador ginsburg, you know the charms personally, you know the charms very well. describe some of the lighter moments between the two of you or even others. >> you know what's great, listening to president peres deliver a speech and know you were going to get a twits on words that would leave you and have you dream about or think about after the speech was long finished, and that was one point. i think the second point was when i was part of the small group of people who brought president clinton and the prime minister together before president clinton became

president in 1992, and i knew mr. peres then, having grown up and met him many times and subsequently when he came to morocco often, he was a good friend of the king of morocco, well respected and admired with most arab leaders, who he met with privately, he also appealed to their best conscience, and that's the one thing that needs to be said here that hasn't been said. for all of the talk of our bilateral ties and how important peres was to israel, he introduced an israel to the arab world that most never understood or accepted or believed existed. that's a good israel, full of conscience, full of hope, full of entrepreneurial spirit and desire for peace. he gave the arabs a justification to believe that despite their prejudice against the average israeli and israel, peres was a star on the horizon for them.

>> you're looking at live pictures there of final moments before the late president shimon peres and prime minister will be intered. you see president obama speaking to one of shimon peres' daughters, who spoke earlier, as well, did you get to know the family well of president shimon peres? >> no, i only knew hamid. hamid in his own right is a highly respected and admired israeli.

quite remarkable to see a former president making this youtube vid video. >> love for technology there and his push and also for the younger generation as president obama put it, he loved the younger generation because they didn't have the prejudices of the past. >> absolutely. not only that, you have to understand how important the peres center that he founded was a gathering place for palestinians who would come over from palestine to meet with him. >> all right. ambassador marc ginsburg, thank you so much for your perspective. >> great honor. >> for the past couple of hours here as we continued our

coverage of the state funeral of president and prime minister shimon peres. along with ayman mohyeldin, i'm frances rivera. thank you for being with us on staigs stai msnbc.

this morning we're learning new information about the man behind the controls and a safety system that might have been able to prevent the tragedy. and new overnight, remembering the man known as israel's last founding father. leaders are gathered in jerusalem right now paying their