high. >> coming in talking about republican reactions, talking about republicans around the country, cot walker tweeting out that this is inexcusable. >> inexcusable. >> but -- walker, walker, ryan, prebus. >> we're waiting the possible release of a video from the donald trump campaign. that video is reported to contain an apology. it is the first apology in donald trump's life, the first public apology that we will have ever witnessed. donald trump issued what he thought was an apology earlier tonight for video released today, found by the washington post. that is video made by access hollywood in 2005 on the nbc lot in burbank where they were shooting an interview and an

appearance with donald trump. this was video that was not used in the access hollywood show at that time. it was video that was captured in which donald trump was speaking his mind about women generally, some specific women including a married woman who he said he wanted to have sex with. he used a much stronger phrase than that to describe what he wanted. and he also talked about a woman he was about to meet and who you will see him meet on this video. this is the video that seems to have rocked the trump campaign and there are reports tonight of the possibility that this video could end the trump campaign. here it is. >> i love on her and i failed. i did try and [ bleep ] her. she was married. no this was -- and i move on her

very heavily. in fact i took her out furniture shopping. she wanted to get some furniture. i said i'll show you where they've got some nice furniture. i moved on her like a bitch. she's totally changed her looks. >> she's your girl's hottie in the purple. >> whoa! >> my man. wait. you got to look. >> set this up. >> you give me the -- >> you a [ bleep ]. >> you got to get the thumbs-up. >> can't be too happy. >> very funny. you and i will walk out. maybe it's a different one. yeah that's her. i got to use some tick tacks just in case i start kissing her.

it's like a magnet, just kiss. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. do anything. the leg, all i can see is the legs. >> looking good. >> come on, shorty. get out of the way. that's good legs. go ahead. >> always good if you don't fall out of the bus like gerald ford, remember. hi how are you. >> nice to see you. >> you know billy bush. >> nice to see you. >> how are you doing. >> are you ready to be a soap star? >> we're ready. >> how about a hug for the donald. he just got off the bus. >> melania said this was okay. >> we're joined now by phone by

chris matthews. chris matthews, your reaction to this video. >> well, i think the reaction to the trump people is probably more important. well you know what's going on here. they're in deaf con 2 right now fearing the worst and the worst is coming because as you've been pointing out on the air right now, there's a time factor here. bill clinton could put off monica by denying it for months using his cabinet to cover for him and using the clock. so he could put it off, get the heat going. so by around august of '98 when he had been under the skillet for a while, starting to cool down, things cooled down. and by the time he went and gave his discovery and spoke before the grand jury, it had calmed down enough for him to get through it. but he had the benefit of his office and the benefit of the months where he could let it calm down.

and the clock is not working as well for donald trump because as we all know he's on a cliff that he's been walking along for the last couple of days where it's very clear he could fall off the cliff if nothing bad happened. it's just that precipitous right now. and now to take this incident, and he's on a cliff about a foot from the edge and he's being thrown stuff at him from his past, fair enough. it's good reporting. it's good reporting certainly. and it's all relevant to who he looks to be and who he is and the way he talks about women and the way he behaves with women. but it's one of those situations where they're got to make a decision. i like this part of politics, not what this involves in terms of the context but the crisis management we're all watching here. how is he going to deal with this? who is the donald trump who lives today who is running for president today and how has his character adjusted to the crisis. can he take the heat? can he come out of this with a measure of improvement in the

way people look at it tonight and in the morning when they read the papers. i think that's a challenge. can he improve his situation. it's about the clock. and tomorrow we have saturday, a few hours of daytime saturday and then we have the eve of the debate saturday night, then the long morning shows, hours of morning shows "meet the press" and the rest of them all talking about this if he doesn't do something between now and then. maybe 100 million people are watching on sunday night and i would expect the first question from martha raddatz will be about this. and as someone said earlier on the program, second third and fourth and fifth questions will relate to this. it will be on the minds of those involved who are invited to the town meeting who have the ticketticke tickets, not so much the journalists. and the prorgs will be 50/50 men

and women. the women will definitely ask these questions and i think the men will raise the issue too because this is a vivid portrait of a mind-set we're getting from the bus discussion there with mr. bush. and it's a pretty -- >> i have to interrupt you donald trump's video is ready to be scene. we have it here. >> we're on the mark here. >> -- someone that i'm not. i've said and done things i reget and the words released today on this more than a decade old video are one of them. anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it, i was wrong and i apologize. i've traveled the country talking about change for america but my travels have also changed me. i've spent time with grieving mothers who have spent lost their children, laid off workers whose jobs have gone to other countries and people from all walks of life who just want a

better future. i have gotten to know thereat people of our country and i've been humbled by the faith they've placed in me. i pledge to be a better man tomorrow and will never ever let you down. let's be honest. we're living in the real world. this is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues we're facing today. we are losing our jobs, we're less safe than we were eight years ago and washington is totally broken. hillary clinton and her kind have run our country into the ground. i've said some foolish things but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused women and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victims. we will discuss this more in the coming days. see you at the debate on sunday. >> that was donald trump. he said i said it, i'm wrong, and i apologize and then

immediately changed the subject to other issues and then including a swipe at bill clinton before ending what was only a 90 second video. your reaction? >> there were three different messages there all in conflict. one, something like an apology but it juz also a denial that was him. he was saying that person you saw getting out of that bus was really not me. i'm not that person. and everyone knows who knows it's not me. we'll see if anybody backs that up. secondly he said it was a distraction, in other words it wasn't worth or interest or attention. in other words it's not worth putting on television. why did he just do a video for television if it's just a distraction. so he's putting down the moment here. the importance of what he's talking about after having denied it was him saying it. he didn't really apologize. he disowned it and then he went and said it with us a distraction then he went on the attack going after bill clinton's behavior. i think the last part is the

most important part and will be most important part. that's camera ready for tomorrow, that statement. that says that he's going to go in there sunday night and go on the attack, go after monica, kathleen, the whole hall of shame or whatever of clinton during the presidency. it looks like he's going to go after everything. and of course that's going to raise the old question with the left, the progressive left and the right when clinton got into trouble the liberals said that's personal behavior. why are we talking about that. let's get on with the issues. move on.org. remember that? i don't think the progressives are going to move on from there. and unnorth nafortunately for m, the christians are not going to like this. this is going to affect him in utah. utah is not going to like this. it's not just mitt romney, jason

chaffetz. they don't like this behavior at all. they're derent people with high standards. that may be the first wall to fall. >> and it has been with jason chaffetz and the governor. this was a 90-second video. we've been waiting for it virtually all night here. i want to take one more look at it before we all react to it again with comments. this is donald trump's first public apology in his 70 years of life. let's look at this 90-second video once again. >> i have never said i'm a perfect person nor pretended to be someone that i'm not. i've said and done things i regret and the words released today on this more than a decade old video are one of them. anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it, i was wrong, and i apologize. i've traveled the country

talking about change for america. but my travels have also changed me. i've spent time with grieving mothers who have lost their children, laid off workers whose jobs have gone to other countries and people from all walks of life who just want a better future. i have gotten know the great people of our country and i've been humbled by the faith they've placed in me. i pledge to be a better man tomorrow and will never ever let you down. let's be honest. we're living in the real world. this is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues we're facing today. we are losing our jobs, we're less safe than we were eight years ago and washington is totally broken. hillary clinton and her kind have run our country into the ground. i've said some foolish things but there is a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused women and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated

his victims. we will discuss this more in the coming days. see you at the debate on sunday. >> joining us now by phone is republican congressman jason chaffetz of utah. thank you for joining us tonight. what is you reaction of what you've just heard from donald trump? >> well i hope he's sincere. i really do. but i just -- having read and seen and heard what mr. trump said, albeit ten plus years ago, i can't endorse that person. i just can't do it. >> and mr. chairman he just seemed to indicate that the age of the video is relevant, that we should somehow be, i don't know, forgiving it, overlooking it because of the age of the video. what is your response to that? >> well, i guess what was also offensive, not only from the raw abhorrent comment that he made

during the video is his initial response, his tweet. that twitter was not an apology. that was an apology for getting caught. he was -- you know, to suggest that bill clinton has done far worse on the golf course should have been his first clue he was on the wrong track. and to apologize if he offended anybody is not an apology for the actual action an the belief. and i just, i just can't endorse that person. i desperately do not want hillary clinton to become the president of the united states. i think she would be disastrous but i'm in a dilemma that donald trump has put the whole nation into and that is, you know, i can't endorse that person. i just can't do it. >> and chairman chaffetz he also said in there what we saw on the access hollywood video where he appeared to be completely relaxed and comfortable does not

quote, his words, that doesn't reflect who i am. that is the issue here and it seems to actually be one of those videos -- it's within of those backstage videos that does give you the feel, it seems like it does give you a faelg of this is who the person is. >> well, that's what i worry about. you know, i want somebody of high moral fiber. i do wish that mike pence was at the top of the ticket. i just do. i think he's of high moral fiber. we're talking about the presidency of the united states of america. and why should we settle for anything other than somebody of high moral fiber. and i -- like i said, there's no possible way i'm voting for hillary clinton. she's one of the most flaws candidates in my lifetime. but i can't -- you know, my wife and i, we have a 15-year-old daughter. how in the world could i look my 15-year-old daughter in the eye and say, honey, you know what,

your dad endorses donald trump for president. i can't do that. i can't and i won't do that. and that's why i'm withdrawing my endorsement. >> mr. chairman, did you tell the trump campaign that you were going to withdraw your endorsement tonight? >> no. almost no contact with the trump campaign. i did call my local utah trump supporters and, you know, some of the main people there and i said listen, this is what i saw, what i feel, what i believe. if you want to give me a response. but it really is no excuse for it and it shouldn't be tolerated. i spent a lot of time bashing on democrats who step over the moral lines and act inappropriately. and you know to use a baseball metaphor, ai'veless at the end f the day look at michl in the mirror and say i call balls and

strikes as i see pem. this no matter which party, if you're going to act like that and that's how you think, you're not going to get my endorsement or support. i hope we do that on both sides of the aisle. it's e wrong open we've got to call it out as being wrong. >> did you communicate your thinking to paul ryan or anyone else in the house leadership before announcing your decision in. >> no. no. i answer to the people of utah. and my wife and my three kids, two kids that are married now. i got to look them in the eye and myself. i don't want for paul ryan, reince prebus or donald trump. i'm not on the record saying i represent donald trump. >> your governor has retracted his endorsement, former governor has retracted. but what about other republican house members, one republican in

colorado has now not just opposed to the trump candidacy, he is saying that donald trump should step down. are you expecting to hear more reaction like that from your republican colleagues in the house? >> i don't know. i would suspect. i mean as disgusted as i was about that, i think a lot of my colleagues feel the same way. they're going to have to come to their own decision on that. there's a lot on the line. the supreme court, fighting ini isis. we're put in a difficult precarious position at a terrible time. they're just going to have to answer that themselves. i don't know. i got to do what i feel comfortable doing. >> i appreciate, chairman chaffetz you talking about this in personal terms in relation to your family and your own moral code, your own view of this as a human being.

there's also a political calculation that apparently is being discussed in washington tonight. we have reporting that there are republicans considering which way to lose here. basically should we ask donald trump or try to get donald trump off the ticket and go with some kind of write-in campaign, some sticker campaign that people attach to their ball lots, with the acknowledgment that donald trump cannot win so which way do we want to lose. do we want to lose tied to him as our nominee or do we want to lose having cut him loose and taken a more honorable path. do you have any sense of that kind of discussion going on in washington or any view of it yourself, how you would regard that strategic question? >> you know, i was on an airplane until about 5:00 p.m. mountain time. i can't tell you that i've been

in any conversations or discussions or anything like that. i would just hope that the media would also hold the clintons to the same high standard. because, you know, i want us as a people, as a nation, as a party on both sides of the aisle, we need good people on both sides of the aisle, we really do. but we better call it out for what it is and not just have it be one sided. so i don't know what's going to happen. i can't foreshadow it. i can just tell you that i'm not going to endorse donald trump, somebody who acts, speaks, thinks like that. can't do it. >> would it be fair to say in your experience, in a presidential campaign like this, if one party's nominee has a -- hits a rocky moment that the party is looking for a collective strategic response. in other words there would be talking points going out, a coordinated message attempted. and if anyone was thinking of

possibly defecting or with drawing their endorsement in messa something like this, there would be a disciplined message coming from the house republican leadership basically trying to get you not to do what you've done tonight. are you aware of anything like that coming from the house leadership? >> no. no. quite the contrary. a lot of my colleagues, just in the last hour or so, have been texting me and calling and suggesting that, you know, i did the right thing and way to have a backbone and that kind of a thing. we are as republicans a very grass roots party. you don't have leadership pop down drilling into you exactly how you're supposed to vote or act or endorse or anything else. so i'm kind of proud of our party that way. i think this happens more organically and each member is going to have to figure out for themselves where they are on this.

i can just tell you where i'm at and that's -- i listen and support the people of utah third congressional district. they're the ones sending me to washington, d.c. they're the ones that i listen to and the ones i representing, not d.c. >> did you get any calls from faithful trump supporters in the house of representatives, any colleagues in the house saying you shouldn't have done that in. >> not yet, no. none. it's only been out for a short little bit and i tried to call a few people -- we're having a hard time connecting real quick. but i have not. >> powerful chairman usually don't get a lot of criticism from their colleagues in the house. >> there are benefits to being a chairman. i'm just teasing. >> chairman jason chaffetz i very much appreciate you joining us tonight in this special coverage of this unique situation that we've never seen in a presidential campaign before. really appreciate your time. >> thank you.

>> we're back here with hallie jackson. hallie, it is happening. any more reaction from republicans? >> yes. i have been on the phone trying to get a sense to what people are saying about the 90-second video that is remarkable in a lot of ways. remarkable from somebody who covers the campaign. you can hear the different competing voices inside the campaign. i can tell you from my conversations prior to this coming out, i think that bill clinton reference is so significant, it is going to upset a lot of people, trump loyalists who wanted to hear a real apology and leave it at the first 45 second. there's chatter that will he show up at the debate on sunday night. he's going to be at the debate on sunday night and he's going to be talking about bill clin n clinton. this gives hillary clinton a chance to map out their line of defense for the next 48 hours

because they know this is coming. it puts trump in a position where he is going to be on defense on sunday at a time when you need to be offense. his campaign had somewhat stabilized prior to 4:00 p.m. today. we had three days where we were talking about hurricanes. he is now in the line of fire. that is a remarkable piece of stage craft and it is fascinating to watch. >> i'm going to reveal to the viewing audience at home, when we were watching the video, get the three shot of our guests here, there was a collective physical reaction as if the air bags had just gone off here when donald trump mentioned bill clinton and bill clinton's history. >> yes. and this is the thing. if he wants to make hillary clinton more sympathetic, if he wants women of all political stripes to rally around her more, he should absolutely go after bill clinton on sunday night. but there is absolutely no

strategic reason to do it. and it just feeds into what you're saying, the competing voices. there is a wing of the republican party and he is playing to them. >> we're joined now by jonathan allen. jonathon, the trump new video recorded apology tonight looks like the me bargain in which he side of the deal was i'm going to mention bill clinton. i don't care what else you say, i'm putting the clinton sentence in there. >> i've never seen anyone apologize with such little remorse in my entire life. turns around and blames somebody else. we're talking about the debate. i was listening to liz just a moment ago. i would be shocked if you heard hillary clinton say anything more than she has to. donald trump is imploding. this election is about to be over. you're going to see republicans

stream fg are the donald trump exits over the next 24, 48 hours trying to figure out tow ho salvage a senate majority and a house majority in what has to be the darkest day for the republican party nationally until the next donald trump implosion. >> elise, your reaction to everything that has happened here, including the, i would say the really interesting calm and certainty of jason chaffetz basic condemnation of this clinton candidacy. he was untroubled by what he had to do tonight. it was morally clear to him what he had to do tonight. it sounded like he didn't have a second's doubt about it, he just needed to get off the plane and into a position where he could tell utah i am absolutely not with this guy. >> and you know why? because he did the right thing and other republicans know they need to and we're going to gradually see the trickle effect of this. what i found so interesting about this statement tonight was that he checked the box on

apologizing and then he checked the box on talking about how he's a changed man by traveling the country, meeting with grieving moms, meeting with immigrant and then it was solid trump, same man he always is, hasn't changed, is going to go after bill clinton's infidelity. >> we're going to go back to our night of video momentarily. we're going to show the access hollywood video again which start thd crisis in the trump campaign. we're going to show the donald trump new apology video tonight. first i want to get in a word with mike murphy before we do that. mike, donald trump said i'm wrong and apologize period. no words came after the word apologize. he did not specifically apologize to nancy o'dell who is named in this video as someone who he specifically tried to have sex with when she was

married. he dragged her into this and did not issue a direct apology to her. he did not issue the kind of apology that mitch mcconnell called for, which was an apology to all women and to make it much broader. your reaction with where donald trump stands with republicans like mitch mcconnell. >> a tape like this is created when you don't trust the candidate to talk to reporters directly on television because they don't really want to apologi apologize. you have a team shotgun speech writing exercise where you come up with a hostage video like this, which i think you made a point earlier about a deposition where it's all negotiated. the problem is television communicates a lot more than words. the only time i was watching him read that material where i thought he believed it when he

said decades ago ten the pivot to let's be honest, it's not really about this, it's about the clintons. it was as week of an apology and frankly in my interpretation, unheartfelt as possible. it sets him up because he implies this was a terrible outlier. which if more tapes come out, we're going to find out that was the standard. and the apology will crumble completely. he's managed to make a horrible situation even worse with a tape that really is not much about apologizing and now part two will be what happens at the debate where this will clearly be a big topic and no teleprompter to protect him from what he really thinks. >> they're aurved two videos tonight, one a written telepromptered apology video and then the other, the video from access hollywood which donald

trump says that video does not reflect who i am. but common sense tells you the unguarded backstage video does indeed tell us who you are. >> it was completely authentic. he wasn't aware he was on camera. well the state was totally core rated. but he won't have the protection of a cliche written -- staff written hostage video at that debate sunday night. it will be him and people with no filter and no management. and i think we're going to hear a lot more about the clintons than we are about i'm sorry. we will begin with the access hollywood video that was leaked today to the washington post, made the video public. this changed the presidential campaign. it is now changed utterly by

this video. let's watch that video and then we'll go to the donald trump response video. here is the access hollywood video. you know and i moved on her actually. you know, she was down on palm beach. >> i move on her and i failed. i'll admit it. i did try and [ bleep ] her. she was married. >> that's huge news. >> no, no. nancy. no, this was -- >> and i moved on her very heavily. in fact, i took her out furniture shopping. she wanted to get some furniture. i said, "i'll show you where they have some nice furniture." >> i moved on her like a bitch but i couldn't get there. and she was married. then all of a sudden i see her. she's now got the big phony [ bleep ] and everything. she's totally changed her look. >> sheesh, your girl's hot -- in the purple. whoa, the donald is good. whoa, my man. >> look at you. you are a -- >> can't be too happy. >> very funny. you and i will walk out.

>> maybe it's a different one. >> it better not be the publicist. no, it's her. it's her. >> yeah, that's her, with the gold. >> i've gotta use some tic tacs just in case i start kissing her. you know, i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. it's like a magnet. just kiss. i don't even wait. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. >> oh those legs. all i can see is the legs. >> looks good. >> come on, shorty. >> oh, nice legs, huh? >> get out of the way, honey. oh, that's good legs. go ahead. >> it's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. like ford, gerald ford, remember? >> down below. pull the handle. >> hello. how are you?

>> hi, mr. trump. how are you? >> pleasure to meet you. >> nice seeing you. terrific, terrific. you know billy bush? >> hello, nice to see you. how are you doing, arianne? >> i'm doing very well. thank you. are you ready to be a soap star? >> we're ready. let's go. make me a soap star. >> how about a little hug for the dold? he just got off the bus. >> would you like a little hug, darling? >> absolutely. melania said this was okay. >> how about a little hug for the bushy? >> and here after hours in crisis is the video released by the trump campaign late tonight. >> i've never said i'm a perfect person nor pretended to be someone that i'm not. i've said and done things i regret and the words released today on this more than a decade old video are one of them. anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it, i was wrong and i apologize. i've travelled the country talking about change for america but my travels have also changed me. i've spent time with grooeing mothers who have lost their children, laid off worker whose

jobs have gone to other countries and people from all walks of life who just want a better future. i have gotten to know the great people of our country and i've been humbled by the faith they've placed in me. i pledge to be a better man tomorrow and will never ever let you down. let's be honest, we're living in the real world. this is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues we're facing today. we are losing our jobs, we're less safe than we were eight years ago and washington is totally broken. hillary clinton and her kind have run our country into the ground. i've said some foolish things but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clint maz actually abused women and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victims. we'll discuss this more in the coming days. see you at the debate on sunday. >> that was donald trump's second apology of the day.

he had issued a written apology earlier in which he said i apologize if anyone was offended. we're joined again by chris matthews. chris, mitch mcconnell tonight issued a statement before donald trump's second apology saying, trump needs to apologize directly to womennd girls everywhere and take full responsibility for the utter lack of respect for recommend shown in his comments on that tape. did donald trump's apology meet mitch mcconnell's demand? >> i doubt so. you know, the interesting thing about this, there's a lot of freud on the left and misery. but the interesting thing is about everybody agreed tonight on the facts. and i think you've been right on pointing out the facts. they are the hart of the story. the associated press is not a biassed organization.

and tonight's lead i think tells us the facts. after being caught on tape making shockingly crude comments about a married woman, he tried to so deuce, donald trump declared in a midnight video i was wrong and i apologize yet he claim, yet is the key word, he claimed the astonishing revelations were nothing more than a distraction and argued his words were not as egregious as president clinton's marital affairs. that's a busy paragraph. if you're going to apologize, that's what you do and everybody gets it. there was a point from the statement that he read from a teleprompter tonight. saying this campaign has changed me. we all know those in politics that campaigns do change people. they do see, like the kennedys saw the poverty, you see anytime the big city and inner city, you see people with real problems.

politics teaches you real life problems no matter how fa looten your fa pain is. you do learn more about reality. and i think if he had said that and said i'm not the same guy getting out f that bus 11 years ago, that might have been profound. but i think he ruined it by all that he did. and i think the key thing we've overlooked so far, i've just come to it, what's going to last longer in terms of play on television, his apology to the extent that it was one or the video of him there with billy bush yucking it up, their voices coming out to us through a hot mike they didn't know was hot coming to us in a very real way and meeting that attractive actress who met them at the door. that's going to be played over and over again. and as everybody has been saying, hillary clinton doesn't have to do a narration of that. she simply has to show it. so trump has a real problem.

his feature is that tape, not his past. and that future is going to lie between him and the election. it would take a profound -- i don't know how you could say it, one of those televangelist apologies to be believable, jimmy swag ert. he's got a problem. >> we're joined now by nbc news andrea mitchell. i want to get your reaction to everything we've seen tonight. you've witnessed historic turns in campaigns at different times. none of us have ever witnessed anything like this in a presidential campaign >> i can't think of any president -- we've seen in the couple of days -- that's hardly the same as a month before the election the presidential

nominee being caught in such exposure. you were just saying this is out there for everyone to see. this doesn't have to be turned into a campaign commercial to have an impact. the apology, quasi apology was an interesting document because he apologizes, he then does try to change the subject. and appeals to his base. but by going -- moving on saying it is a distraction, he is not reaching even the thresholds of mitch mcconnell to say nothing of what jason chaffetz said to you, which is a withdrawal of someone what said he can't do this on principle. you are going to see a number of people in close races in districts are donald trump is a drag on the ticket.

and right now we have congresswoman barbara come stock from northern virginia in a tough race, she's issued a statement saying this is disgusting with vile and disqualifying. no one should be subjected to this kind of behavior. donald trump should step aside and allow us to replace him. i cannot vote for donald trump. i would never vote for hillary clinton. you're going to see a number of those kinds of statements. but when you begin to see a real movement in the congressional party to protect the base, protect that senate majority, try to at least and write him off, that is when movement is going to occur. and i think the closest we've seen to that so far have been what was seen from the speaker of the house. for paul ryan who has been so carefully walking that tight rope with his house majority not

wanting him to disavow or not endorse, not even being happy with him taking so long to endorse donald trump, for him to say what he said and and connect with scott walker and according to kelly o'donnell's reporting, not just because it's kelly and she's always right, it's absolutely in character with paul ryan. for them to disinvite donald trump from that saturday first campaign appearance with him, that tells you so much about the way the party is moving. i think there is an outside chance and i don't think it's the most likely outcome but an outside chance that as we were hearing earlier, that this could be a cut your loss moment. >> we're going to get a break in here and bring or david, the one who found the video and made it public today. i wanted to get your reaction to

donald trump's apology. i was sitting here watching it with three women, they all had actually a physical reaction as i've told the audience to donald trump saying the word apologize and then completely changing the subject for the rest of the video saying it's nothing more than a distraction. if it's nothing more than a distraction, why has it stopped the campaign cold. and then bringing up bill clint clinton, just running away from his own conduct in this so-called apology as fast as he could. just as a person experiencing someone apologizing for something like this, what did you feel when you were hearing this? >> well, it was just an extraordinary reversal. you don't apologize and then go on a personal attack at the same time. and it certainly indicated that all of the attempts by kelly and

conway and some of the other adviser to restrain his instinct to go on the attack, the un, not even veiled threat that he was going to go after bill clinton. remember the tweet about inviting gennifer flowers and then saying it was just a joke. all of that had been pulled back and he was presenting himself with a very different approach to this second debate. clearly had been counseled that he had lost the first debate and they were struggling to get him to prepare and to come up with a different demeanor. but you can't forget that the men around him have made careers about going after the clintons and raising legitimate questions about personal life, i suppose of bill clinton, but he isn't on the ticket. and just as a political strategy, hillary clinton became more popular during the lewinsky

scandal. there was a tremendous sympathy vote. and if she doesn't get defensive and hostile, she was certainly very restrained and very calculated you know in, i would say in a tactical way in that first debate, she kept her cool and kept her temper app and had exactly the kind of demeanor that was successful for her in that debate. and i can't imagine a scenario sunday night where it's down to his benefit to go after bill clinton and dredge up the past when i think the voters want -- even his base want him to talk about how he's going to change things from the status quo and be the change candidate that he wants to be. >> thank you for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> what a night. you bet. >> we're going to take a break here. when we return, david farren

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breaking news of a release of a video earlier today, a video taken by access hollywood in 2005 showing donald trump talking about women in ways we have never heard a presidential candidate talk about women. here is some of that video. >> i've gotta use some tic tacs just in case i start kissing her. you know, i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. it's like a magnet. just kiss. i don't even wait. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ] you can do anything. >> that forced donald trump to make two apology tonight. one a written one that said he apologized if anyone was offended. then donald trump issued a recorded apo recorded apology video who said i regret the words that were said today. they don't reflect who i am.

i said it, i was wrong and i apologize. then he went on to say more than twice as much about things having nothing to do with his apology or that videotape. we're joined now by david fahrenthold reporter for the washington post, david fahrenthold obtained the video, publicly released it today. and david fahrenthold's breaking news today is now in complete control of this campaign. david, thank you very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> no problem. >> so david, everyone wants to know how you -- what can you tell us about obtaining this video. i know confidential sourcing is involved so please tell us everything you can. how long you had it, did you alert the trump campaign that you had it and ask for any response from them before releasing it? >> i can't tell you legally anything at all about how i got it. we got it today and we today the trump campaign that he had it about 1:30 in the afternoon and

provide them at that time with a transcript of -- not of the whole video which is more than five minutes long of a transcript of the parts that everyone is reporting. they asked for the video and we eventually showed them the video and after that about 4:00 they issued the statement, the first apology sort of a half apology which trump striend as locker room banter. >> and david, this is more cooperation in many ways that you're used to getting from the trump campaign. you have been relentless this year in tracking down donald trump charitable contributions and actually not finding any donald trump personal charitable contributions and the trump campaign has been very good at times at ignoring your requests for information. today when you told them you had this video, it sounds like they responded rather quickly. >> yes, they did actually.

they responded. they responded to ask for the video and once we showed them the video they responded very quickly to say it indeed was him, basically to confirm the authenticity and to give a small statement that include the half apology. >> did you get any sense in your communication with them that they recognized the enormity of what you were about to reveal? >> it is hard to tell. my conversations with them, while helpful were rather brief. and so i couldn't tell you. i mean i'm not sure that i even knew what it would become by the end of the day. i have been amazed to see how big of a story it's become. i couldn't tell you if they did. certainly they didn't say anything like that at the time. >> so it's within of those things, david, where we have a right to feel like we've seen certain things like this in donald trump's history. we certainly things like this have been reported about donald

trump's attitude. they've been in print. but we've never had video like this and you were not sure whether that first donald trump response might just be what gets them through it, which is to say locker room banter and minimizing it, that is exactly the kind of response that the donald trump campaign had used in the past in situations that resembled this in certain ways. and so even you were surprised by where the story went from there? >> that's right. i mean the thing that sets this apart -- there's two things that sets this apart from all of the previous comments we reported on that trump made about women. one it was not made publicly. a lot of the other comments that we've heard for made on the howard stern show or on television, everybody saw them. that's an anest sizing effect. these are private comments that

trump made. he didn't think anyone else was listening. that makes it a more revealing picture of him. the other thing that's interesting about this, what we're talking about is not trump just words. it's not just trump saying look at that lady, she's a ten, isn't she beautiful with her legs, it's not just a description. it's what trump is saying about his own actions. he's describing things he's done in theast and will do in the future, not just words but actions, kissing women, groping them. both of these apologies deal with this as words. it was the wrong thing to say. doesn't really address it as an indicator of trump's actual conduct. was interested to see if in the second apology he would say i know i said that i kissed women and groped them but that was just a joke. i don't really do that or didn't really do that. he didn't address it as contact. it was more improper speech in

both cases. >> well the things he's actually describing as part of his own conduct pattern including the sp specifics of that grabbing that he describes that i cannot even say on television, that is sexual assault. that is a classic description of sexual assault. >> that's what's interesting to me. you know, he would have been better for him, although he didn't say it, you know -- as i said, that's not how i acted. i wasn't making a joke. i was bragging to billy bush. that was not the way i act pd. the second apology he said that's not the man i am, that's not who i am. but there's no specific addressing of that. it will be interesting to see if we find women who knew trump to say yes, the thing he said he

did, he did to me. >> david in campaigns as we've been discussing with mike murphy and others who have been in crisis meetings with campaigns, one of the questions you ask the candidate is how much more is out there. how much more might people find. and it seems donald trump's answer would have to be i don't know because access hollywood is saying they have dozens and dozens of hours of video like that that they've never shown of donald trump and others who have been involved in their programs. what is your sense of the likelihood of more such video from access hollywood or other sources like that emerging from this campaign? >> it's hard for me to judge. but i will say this, two things. there's in reason to believe that this particular episode of

access hollywood was something special. they were going to meet a beautiful access to do a backstage tour of a soap opera. it seems like a common occasion. trump has been a gust star on a lot of things. >> david fahrenthold thank you for joining us. we'll be right back. is it a professor who never stops being a student? is it a caregiver determined to take care of her own?

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