before the debate. i want to jump into reporters following the campaigns in the battleground state of north carolina and pennsylvania. let's get to kelly o'donnell in charlotte, where mike pence is scheduled to peek realspeak any now. i have to get your reaction after paul ryan said he will not defend or campaign with donald trump for the rest of the month, for of the rest of the cycle. it is kind of what hae been doing so far, thgh, right? >> reporter: it is, it is a continuation of a strategy paul ryan has had, and it has required re-visiting it with some of the disclosures that have put the trump/pence ticket from such peril. we know this is one of the ways mike pence will try to show that there is some stability returning to the ship by being here in north carolina, battleground state, by attending what we are told will be a town hall meeting. but paul ryan's responsibility is different.

he is trying to reassure donors, those on the ballot, those returning members of congress, as well as those choallenging democrats across the country. what we're seeing is ryan saying he will not withdraw his endorsement, but he will not defend trump. he is really sort of stepping into a separate lane, trying to preserve the house majority, and to whatever extent he can help mitch mcconnell try to preserve the republican majority in the senate. so they have different missions at this point. it is well-known that paul ryan has been uncomfortable with many things about donald trump, but he is a close friend of governor mike pence. so it is an awkward, difficult, challenging position, and they are trying to find ways to thread the needles in a very complicated set of facts, and so little time left to deal with. hallie. >> i know you'll stick around. we' we're monitoring that rally and we'll bring you any news life as

it happens. i want to bring in peter king, representative from new york, who joins us on the phone. congressman, thanks for being with us. >> good to with you. >> talk us through this call with paul ryan. what did he say? what was the response from rank and file republicans listening in and commenting? >> i can't go into all the details. it was a privileged call. having said that paul did say up front that he would be focusing on reelecting house republicans, speaker of the house, his main job was to make sure we retain the republican majority. obviously he cannot be defending what donald trump said. when there was a little push back on that paul clarified, and said he is not withdrawing his endorsement, but just feels that in view of what has happened over the last four weeks of the campaign, he should be focusing on reelecting republicans. >> you describe that push back, congressman. are you angry at what speaker ryan said, and do you think there is anger within the party? >> no, when i said push back, people who thought he was no

longer endorsing donald trump. he said no, i want to make it clear, i am not in any way withdrawing my endorsement. no, i'm not angry at paul ryan at all. he has a different function. he has to worry about 247 houses republicans, the big picture to look at, and again, he has a whole different variety of republicans, of course the i ideological spectrum. i have the greatest respect for paul ryan. >> you know, i would wonder, though, congressman, isn't it to a degree your job as well as the job of all house republicans to keep the house majority? do you fear with the numbers, the poll numbers we're seeing from donald trump, the actions in the last 72 hours could essentially disintgrate that number? >> it is a pro trump base in almost every district in the

country, political terms, you're at risk of alienating them. do what you think is right. to me, as a republican and an american, even though i have a personal friendship with hillary clinton, i believe donald trump is much better suited to be president of the united states and commander in chief. we should be putting the interests of the country first, and i think in the end, the voters end up respecting that, rather than trying to, you know, maneuver -- >> how do you think this move -- >> latest poll shows. >> i'm sorry toyne interru inte there. how do you think this will affect the national committee? what's your take? >> i don't know. listen, paul ryan and reince priebus close personal relationship. they both know each other. paul ryan is doing what he believes he has to do, as speaker of the house. i have full respect for that. i'm only saying what i'm doing, running as a congressman in the second district in new york. people look at it, you know, from different perspectives, but

i'm not in any way questioning what paul ryan has said or done. he has been an outstanding speaker. >> i have one high level republican operative say this is the self-implosion of the republican party. do you agree? >> i think we have to watch we don't pan niic when one bad new story comes out. whatever flaws donald trump has come, we have equally flawed candidates. the supreme court nominations, support for the police, rebuilding the military, to me, donald trump is clearly superior. those are values that mean a lot to republicans. we can't allow panic to set in, and you know, back in 1998, the democrats didn't run away from bill clinton when he was guilty of far more serious offenses, and the democrats ended up picking up seats in the house that year. >> briefly, what is your message now to those fellow members of congress of yours, republicans, who are on that call with house speaker who were up set at what

he had to say? >> i don't think anyone was up set. really, they wanted a clarification. we came away pretty united and i would just say -- >> united when your house speaker isn't -- >> -- don't be giving into panic. you have to withdraw your endorsement, that's one thing. if you're doing it because of the polls, that can end upcoming back to bite you. >> i guess i just wonder, how you talk about unity, when the house speaker isn't going to campaign with or defend the party's nominee. how is that unity? >> well, he is still endorsing him. again, this is a very unusual year. and i think paul ryan is trying to make the best of a very difficult situation that he is in. not of his own making. this is the cards he's been dealt and i give him credit for it. >> congressman peter king, thanks for hopping on the phone. >> you're very welcome. i want to get over to kristin welker, as you have been i know working in the room behind us here.

hillary clinton responding to some of this paul ryan news. >> yeah, she is. she is making the point and stressing that he is still endorsing donald trump, that he hasn't officially pulled his endorsement. >> is it the same point peter king just made. >> exactly. she tweeted it out. she is using that point to essentially try to capitalize, i think, on the divisions within the republican party, and the fact that not everyone is standing up to donald trump. she is using that as a way to energize her base. hallie, at this hour, clinton campaign releasing new ads, testimonials of republicans who are breaking with donald trump and of course, we saw the avalanche over the weekend, well, the clinton campaign, featuring testimonials of long time republicans who say they cannot vote for their party's nominee and i think we have a clip. let's play it. >> i fought for my country in kosova and iraq, i've been a republican all my life. i'm the father of three girls.

i can't stand hearing donald trump calling women pigs, dog, bimbos. i don't want my daughters hearing it. >> there you have the clinton campaign trying to capitalize on the deep divisions within the republican party and trying to capitalize on the 2005 audio tape that came out over the weekend, which has sent the trump campaign spiraling. you look at this moment, you've got the momentum. is this race over? they say absolutely not. donald trump has been counted out so many times before, they say they've got to keep running their race and stay on message and stay on track. >> we are watching, kristin, you saw kelly owe do'donnello'donne may talk about some of the headlines in the news. while we're waiting, i want to ask you about something that this idea -- what you might call implosion or this crisis in the trump campaign, what is happening within the republican is distracting now from news of

these new wikileak documents. would than a bigger deal, if it were not for this? >> imagine what it would be if it weren't for this implosion reason the republican party. it would be completely different. it is detracting away from one of the things i think that is going to be a problem for the clinton campaign to some extent, she was pressed on this issue during the debate in part because during these speeches, these leaked transcripts that we're now getting, reveal that she said in one of the speeches that politicians have to be different in their public life than they are privately and she said that's part of the sausage making of policy-making. and she, last night, when she was pressed on this, look, i was referencing abraham lincoln and a tactic that he took to get the 13th amendment passed, but this could feed into the lack of trust. i talked to clinton campaign officials, and to what extent

are you concerned this is going to feed into voters lack of trust in her. they say look, she is prepared to answer that question. but to try to stay focused on policy issues, which they think ultimately is what she'll whip the race on. >> we'll dive more into the clinton campaign later this hour. right now, i want to turn to the trump campaign. a little fact check now as we move on. mike pence, swearing he and trump have the same position when it comes to the u.s. military and the humanitarian cries in syria. listen to what he told msnbc today. >> martha raddatz mischaracterized what i said in the vice-presidential debate. >> so as we wait for mike pence to take the stage at his rally in north carolina did martha raddatz mischaracterize his comments. >> if you were president, what would you do about syria and humanitarian crisis in aleppo? i want to remind you what your running mate said. >> i just have to tell you that the provocations by russia need

to be met with american strength. >> he said provocations by russia need to be met with american strength. >> and if russia chooses to be involved and continue i should say to be involved in this attack on civilians. >> that if russia continues to be involved in air strikes along with the syrian government forces of assad. >> the united states of america should be prepared to use military force to strike military targets of the assad regime. >> the united states of america should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the assad regime. >> for more now on the state of the trump campaign on that debate moment and more, let's bring in sarah huck kabee sande. i want to talk about policy and what appears to be a split between the top of the ticket and mike pence, but first, i have to start with the big news of the day. paul ryan, now coming out and saying he will not defend or

campaign with your candidate. that has got to be a concern for you, moving forward. >> you know, honestly, i really don't think it is. since day one, our campaign has been a grassroots movement that hasn't changed. it is not going to change. the focus is on getting the supports and endorsements for millions of americans all across the country. not necessarily the crowd from washington. but the rank and file folks from north to south, east to west, that's who we're focused on. it is a real grassroots movement. it hasn't changed. that's how the campaign started. it has been a movement. not necessarily a typical campaign. i don't think this changes that at all. >> and sarah, i want to remind everybody, we're waiting on mike pence to take the stage in north carolina. you saw that or heard the moment we played from the debate. it sounds as though there is a real split between donald trump and mike pence, when it comes to policy on the humanitarian crisis in syria. is there? >> look, i think they've both

been consistent. the number one priority is to defeat isis. that's where the focus has to be and we'll deal with the issues after that. we'll deal with assad after we defeat isis. they've been consistent on that. that part hasn't changed. >> let's bring up our nbc "wall street journal" polling that came out in the last hour. four-way race, trump trailing clinton by 11 points, our new poll also showing that some 14% of voters want trump to drop out of the race. i have to ask you, this has been characterized as some political observers as reaching landslide territory, when you look at these numbers that came out after the release of the audio on friday, what goes through your mind? >> look, i think the poll was taken place before donald trump's very divisive win at the debate last night. that changed the state of the race. i think it certainly shifted. it is not consistent with other polls out. there is the la times poll that has trump up by four.

politico has it within the margin of error closer to a tie. i think to look at this particularly before last night's debate, i think that changed a lot of things. certainly brought undecided voters on to donald trump's team. and exposed hillary for frankly the fraud that she is. anybody that comes out of last night saying that hillary clinton won that debate probably also believes her story of when it comes to the e-mail scandal. >> i have to ask you, is there a difference between stopping the bleeding, when you look at what has happened with the trump campaign over the last few days and trying to make the turn and turn the campaign around and close the gap? is feels as though there might be a big difference in that regard. >> i think donald trump did both of those things last night. he came across as presidential as disciplined as phonifocused. hillary clinton came across as rattled and unhinged. i don't think anybody believed

anything she said. not only to reassure republican voters, but to bring along the undecided and i think over the coming days, you'll see it reflected in new polling post debate. >> before i let you go, sarah, wy heard donald trump talk about the ideas about the comments he made from the audio from simply locker room talk. this is what shawn dolittle said. i've been an athlete my entire life. do you believe groping women is what most men do? >> look, the bigger point he made last night what he said was wrong and didn't try to defend it. he said it was wrong. he admitted that. he apologized and asked for forgiveness. i think that was the biggest take away. that's what the american people were looking for. i think that it would be a real disservice to the american people if we spent the next 30 days talking about nothing but this, instead of the issues that frankly are keeping them up at

night, the economy, national security, border security. those are the things that donald trump, when we get to talk about real issues that americans care about, that's when he is winning, and so if we can get off of these tangents, which i hope we do and talk about the real issues, we'll see the polls tighten up and donald trump win in november. >> sarah huckabee sanders, thank you for joining us. we're looking at mike pence's rally in raleigh, north carolina. we'll bring it to you live. also, hillary clinton criticized for not playing a stronger offense essentially, while trump went on the attack. a long time confidant weighs in. first, this poll question. house speaker paul ryan says he will not defend trump or campaign with him for the next 30 days. should he withdraw hissense dorsment of the gop nominee? the pulse is live. hit up pulse.msnbc.com.

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welcome back. we're taking you now to the rally of mike pence in charlotte, north carolina. >> it informs me we all fall short. we all fall short of the glory of god. there is no one righteous other than the one. you know, as i said last weekend, i don't condone what was said and i spoke out against it. but the other part of my faith is, i believe in grace. i've received it. i believe in it.

i believe in forgiveness. we're called to forgive as we have been forgiven. last night, my running mate, he showed the american people what is in his heart. he showed humility to the american people. and then he fought back and turned the focus to the choice that we face, and i'm proud to stand with donald trump. >> that is mike pence, referencing an interview he did earlier in the day here on msnbc, she asked him about his faith and how that played into his support of donald trump, even after that audio surfaced in 2005, with trump making lewd comment to billy bush. i want to play what he said moments ago when we dipped in live. listen. >> donald trump, i truly believe, you saw it last night on the debate stage.

he literally embodies the spirit of america. strong, freedom loving. independent. optimistic. and willing to fight everyday for what he believes in, and what makes this nation great. you saw that on the stage last night. you know it takes a big man to know when he is wrong and admit it. and to have the humility to apologize and be transparent and vulnerable with people. and donald trump, last night, showed that he is a big man. i was on television this morning on msnbc, i think it was that one. i was on a few. somebody asked me about my faith. they asked me about the fact

that i say that i am a christian. the wake of the last few days, what i made of everything. i'll tell you, i welcome the opportunity. other than that woman standing next to me, my wonderful wife, karen, the most important decision in my life is when i made a decision for christ in 1978. it mass made ahas made all the . i was happy to explain on that television program that i'm a believer. my faith informs me we are to hold up a godly standard and also informs me that we all fall short. we all fall short of the glory of god. there is no one rightous other than the one. the other part of my faith, i

believe in grace. i have received it. i believe in it. i believe in forgiveness. we're called to forgive as we have been forgiven. last night, my running mate shown the american people what is in his heart. he showed humility to the american people. and then he fought back and turned the focus to the choice that we face, and i'm proud to stand with donald trump. i have to tell you, everybody, this election, not just -- it is not just a choice between two people. it is a choice between two

futures. i want to say to all of my friends here in north carolina, i choose a stronger america at home and abroad. i choose a more prosperous america, that stands up for the constitutional principles that made this nation great. i choose to stand with donald trump. and every american who believes we can make america great again. because despite all the distractions, this election really is about big things. it truly is. it is about security. it is about prosperity. it is about the supreme court of the united states, and it is about having the highest standards of integrity. in the highest office in the land. before i get to your questions of this town hall meeting, let me walk you through those big issues. because they tend to get lost in

the dim of whatever the media is talking about on any particular day. they are the issues that i believe matter most to the american people. the ones that i need you to go and talk to your neighbors and friends about here in north carolina in the next 29 days. first on the subject of our security. despite traveling millions of miles at our secretary of state, the world is more dangerous today than the day that barack obama and hillary clinton took over our foreign policy. our allies are less secure. our enemies are more embolden. we cannot have four more years to apologizing to our enemies and abandoning our friends. it is so important to understand. seven and a half years of the foreign policy of barack obama and hillary clinton has weakened america's place in the world. literally resulting in the wider middle east virtually spinning apart. remember, the number one

priority that hillary clinton expressed when she became secretary of state was a reset with russia. shortly after she hit that little red button in the press conference, a newly emboldened ukraine and took over crimea. renewed alliances in syria, and in iran. it truly is extraordinary to think of the failure of this administration. but it is not just an embolden ru russia, we have north carolina firing ballistic missile and testing nuclear weapons. history teaches us that weakness arouses evil. donald trump and i know that the weak foreign policy of hillary clinton and barack obama from leading from behind, moving red lines, feigning a reset, the

rise of isis is a testament to the truth of history. the truth is, there is a couple of things that are very much on her agenda and her responsibility. it was hillary clinton who initiated the disastrous agreement with the radical musli mulahs, and they were boasting of the agreement. you know, when mr. hayes and i were in the congress, we worked together on punishing sanctions of iran and that they would stay in place until iran permanently abandon its nuclear ambitions. but this administration, with hillary clinton's full ascent, transferred $150 billion to the iranians only for a delay-in their ambitions and the period of the agreement once it comes off, no restrictions will be in

place. >> that is indiana governor, mike pence, speaking at a rally in north carolina. he talked about his running mate, standing by him for the next 29 days of this campaign, and as pence was speaking, a new tweet from his running mate, donald trump, going after house speaker paul ryan. let's pull it up here. donald trump saying paul ryan should spend more time on balancing the budget, jobs and illegal immigration, and not waste his time on fighting republican nominee. worth noting, that as nbc and msnbc reported, speaker ryan is not withdrawing his endorsement of trump, as he made clear on a phone call with house republicans earlier today. i want to bring in informal advisor to hillary clinton and president of the center for american progress, thank you for joining us. >> great to be you. >> when you are watching what is happening with house speaker ryan, donald trump, do you believe that democrats have the ability now to not just take

the -- >> it is in play. a tough couple of weeks, but when you see numbers like a 7% swing towards democrats in the battlegrounds, and not in the battlegrounds, in the congressional matchups, how do you feel about the democratic party versus republican, that's one considerably possibility of republicans staying home, it is a real concern. you see that, i think in paul ryan's remarks this morning. >> i wonder about this, though. we talked about the enthusiasm gap between clinton and trump, between the two candidates here. i've been on the phone with a number of operatives since the new started breaking. one say had, this news from paul ryan could actually energize trump's base and energize republican voters more. is that a concern? >> you know, here is the essential problem. he has, donald trump has very strong support, about half to

two-thirds of the republican base. these are people who will stick with him in good times and bad. no matter what he says really, that's been tested over the last couple of days. the challenge for him is that's not a majority of the country. nowhere near it. there are a third, maybe 20%, who are also repulsed by what he has done and aren't supporting him. then of course, independent voters. so to get republicans in the senate races or in the house races across the finish line, he needs more than just republicans supporting him. that, right now, he has been alienating a lot of voters. i think yesterday, with his basically refusal to take responsibility for what happened in the video, how many times did he say locker room talk, which is an abject excuse. it is another signal to independent voters and the american people that he is not truly sorry. all these republicans said they wanted him to be truly sorry and he was not. >> i want to talk a little bit

about a moment in the debate in which he went after your candidate, hillary clinton. let's play a little bit of that and talk about it on the other side. >> bill clinton was abusive to women. hillary clinton attacked those same women and viscously, four of them here tonight. >> when i hear something like that i am reminded of what my friend, michelle obama, advised us all. when they go low, you go high. >> secretahould secretary clinte responded more forcefully. >> i think donald trump's strategy is to bring hillary clinton and truly the rest of us into the, you know, basement of american politics, and i'm glad she didn't take it. you know, i think the -- i think people saw the spectacle of what he did before the debate and recognized that he is really trying to amp up 30% of the

country, and that a lot of people, people in the middle, are going to be repulsed by that. i think it is really important for her and for her campaign to try and not get into the gutter of politics and to try to talk about people's concerns. his goal is to bring her down low with him. and her goal is to keep this about -- keep this on the issues, which she is going to do on taxes, make sure we have fair taxes, economy, health care. she adid a masterful job doing that. >> thank you. donald trump not getting great reaction, bringing in the women who have accused bill clinton of sexual misconduct. up next, we're going to talk a top gop strategist if that was the right move or a stump that could backfire. we've got much more from the campus of washington university in st. louis, up ahead. stick around. i'm re in isl, virginia.

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president. >> people want me to all the time. >> what about you. >> i don't like it. can you think about it being so controver controversy. >> that was some archive footage, as we come back to st. louis here. that was from an interview back in 1998 on cnbc, discussing bill clinton's controversies with women. trump tried to get the focus back to the former president, holding you could call it a press conference, with several women from bill and hillary clinton's past. with me now to talk about all of the developments last night and today is sarah, the former manager hi, sarah, thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> i want to hop in here.

as somebody who has been a staffer at the rnc, been in the building, communicated and been privy to these conversations, what goes through your mind when you see and hear about what paul ryan did today and the reaction that we're getting so far? >> i think paul ryan is threading the need the best he can. the presidential race is over. we are now in the worst case scenario as republicans, where donald trump stopped the bleeding last night, but too much blood had been lost. so that race is over, but not over enough to cut him lose. at this point, it is time to concentrate on the down ballot race, save the house. donald trump down by 14 points, that will be very tough to overcome for the down ballot races. they've got to really put in the extra hours right now. >> 14 points, in a 4 way race we should note. i have talked to republicans,

paul ryan should take a stand here and withdraw his endorsement and that would send a message that could preserve the majorities. what's your take? >> well, i think what's impressive here, i think the smart thing for paul ryan personally to do politically maybe to do that. but he is clearly taking his role as speaker of the house very seriously, and he is taking his role as the de facto leader of the republican party politically, i'm sure, it would help paul ryan to do that. but hurt some of his down ballot races and could be catastrophic to some of these house races. he is doing what he thinks is in the best interest of his caucus, which is impressive, even though i wish he would do something different. >> what do you make of donald trump's strategy to bring in as we saw yesterday in those surprise appearances, some of bill clinton's accusers from years ago. is that the right move for him, will it change republican minds? >> no, it will absolutely change nothing. it was a cringe worthy stunt.

i understand very much the hypocrisy argument and even agree. but the democrats now are just shocked and shocked by donald trump's comments should really look at their own nominee and their nominee's actions through the years. however, two wrongs don't make it right. the republican party should stand for something. we were very strong against what bill clinton did in the '90s and what hillary clinton had done protecting him and tackiattacki some of these women. it is unacceptable. it is inexcusable. i want to play you a sound bite of mike pence responding to the trump comments on the 2005 audio tape and talk about it. >> as i said last weekend, i don't condone what was said. i spoke out against it. but the other part of my faith is i believe in grace. i've received it. i believe in it.

i believe in forgiveness. we're called to forgive as we have been forgiven. last night, my running mate showed the american people what is in his heart. he showed humility to the american people. >> you watched the same debate. did donald trump show enough contrition to change minds? >> i don't think anyone was changing their vote based on the first 20 minutes of that debate. it was a disaster. i do think donald trump held it together and clearly had prepared for that next hour of the debate, and he probably won it. but that first 20 minutes was not contrition that i saw. i think what you actually see there is why so many republicans, came out and said that's great. mike pence should be at the top of the ticket. let's vote on that guy. a lot of republicans could get behind that. and given the alternative is hillary clinton, a lot of democrats could get behind it too. we have the two most unpopular

presidential candidates. two-thirds don't trust either one of them. let's get another option. >> sarah flores, thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. more on the republican party in chaos. we're going to look at how donald trump's troubles could help democrats that could maybe take back the house. first, a response to the microsoft pulse question. paul ryan said he will not campaign with trump for the next 30 days. should he withdra his endorsement. a whopping 94% said yes, he should. just 6% say no, he shouldn't. still time to cast your vote at pulse.msnbc.com. nicate, might wa to at least mention th m building world-angingachines. with my two hands. does that threen you? no! don't be sly.

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this hour, we have seen a number of developments. mike pence, defending his running mate, donald trump taking aim at paul ryan on twitter. peter king, the congressman from no, weighing in on all of this, insisting the party is still

united. a lot to talk about with kevin from politico. thank you for being with us. >> great to be on. >> all right, man, a lot of headlines. what is the take away, what is the most important moment that has happened today in your view? what is the thing that will drive the coverage for the next 24 hours. >> i think it is a combination of donald trump going after paul ryan, and paul ryan saying that he won't defend donald trump any more. just because of what that says about the vice republican down ballot candidates say. you can't alienate, but siding with either group alienates the other. it pins them into this uncomfortable situation. >> what do you make of the new polling numbers? we look at what has happened with the congressional split when it comes to our nbc/"wall street journal" poll. it is significant. explain. >> when i was talking about

strategists about where the party goes from here, watch the generic ballot. if that's bad, things are going to get bad. right now, that's at 49% of people would vote for a democratic controlled congress, 42 would support republicans. that's a bad sign. voters heading into the booth, it gives them a reason, and they'll vote for the democratic. that isn't quite where it is before wave elections that democrats have had in the past. 2006, it was around 15 points, but still, a much bigger gap has to be worrying for republicans. >> i spoke with one operative, hey, listen, the poll was in the field over a weekend, wants to see more numbers, but the thing this person is looking for is intensity and energy, any potential swings in the days to come. is that what you would be looking to as well, and how does that play into this? >> that's definitely something, whether democrats get more

energized. there has been a bit of an enthusiasm problem for hillary, she doesn't fire up young voters the way barack obama did. if this tape is able to get them out to go and vote against trump in a way they weren't before, that's true. and needing more date that, that's what republicans are worried about. they want more data. they don't want the party and their candidates to freak out just yet. they're really preaching a little bit of patience today. >> so in your reporting, do you think in the next few days, we could see more republican elected officials withdrawing their support, or that mini avalanche has been put on hold for now? >> well, it is difficult to say. if the numbers are really bad, perhaps we will. but at the same time, if you do it now, after all these polls have come out, it really does look more of a political decision, whereas some of the people who did it over the weekend, people like kelly ayotte, you could tell they were making a gut decision.

there wasn't polling data to back it up. if you pull out now, after probably releasing a statement saying you were supporting trump, it just really looks pretty political and not motivated by theight reasons. >> politico's kevin roblad, thank you for joining us. how are millennial voters a key group reacting to the free-for-all they saw on display last night. chris jansing talks to them, next. we've got much more from st. louis. stick around. bring home d d't stick around. use clorox disinfecting produs. cause one killserms tter than clorox. see me. see me. don't stare at me. see me. see . see meo kn thatsoriasis is just somethinthat i have. i'm not contagious.

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know you got a lot of news. >> i am going to come find it, halie, good afternoon everybody. donald trump firing on house speaker paul ryan after ryan told republicans that he won't defend the gop and will not campaign to him over the next 29 days. trump's vp pick speaking in north carolina minutes ago. >> i don't condone what was said. last night, my running mate, he showed the american people at heart. he fought back and turn the focus to the choice that we face and i am proud to stand with donald trump. [ cheers ] >> we have the new nbc's wall street journal showing that