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you guys are working on so pretty big stuff over there, right? like a new language for crazy-big, world-changing machines. wellnome specifilly. i the industrial se. so i build the world-changi machines. i the ii get it. se. you can't talk because it's super high-level. no, i actually do build the machines. blink if what you're doing involves encrypted ta transfer. wowwww...hat? w? what wow? there is no wow. another tweet moments ago from donald trump. this time the target is senator john mccain. he writes the very foul mouthed john mccain begged for my support during his primary. i gave, he won. then dropped me over locker room remarks. more on his exploding feud with republicans right here on msnbc. stay with us. that will do it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports."
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andrea back tomorrow. traveling with the clinton campaign today. follow the show online on facebook and twitter. you can follow me @peter alexander. my friend hallie jackson is next live from florida here on msnbc. hallie? hey, peter. we're picking up where peter left off with the all out war that donald trump is raging against republicans. we are live in panama city. political ground zero today with both candidates in the sunshine state. hillary clinton just this morning setting up the stakes. >> if we win florida, there is no way my opponent can win. >> in addition to that john mccain tweet trump is tweeting about the shackles off. check out this new ad apparently evidence of how he plans to fight. >> hillary clinton doesn't have the strength to lead in our
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world. >> let's start with nbc's ali vitale live in new york. we see a tweet going after john mccain calling him foul mouthed, upset he dropped the endorsement, with drew it. we saw another tweet against paul ryan earlier this morning. what's the strategy? what can you tell us about what's happening inside the mind of the campaign? >> reporter: so that john mccain tweet you and peter referenced just came out. that's another example of donald trump taking on his own party, being a disruptor. that's sething the campaign seems okay with. they have never pushed back on the idea that trump is anything but an outsider despite the fact thaer working with the rnc, they are okay with trump pushing against the people who are detracting against him. that's what we are seeing play out on twitter. i asked a senior adviser what it means to have trump be shackles off. to them it means he's going on offense, going against the clintons. painting hillary clinton as weak, ineffective and corrupt.
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that's what we are seeing in the new campaign ad. let's take a look. iran promoting terrorism. north korea threatening. isis on the rise. libya and north africa in chaos. hillary clinton failed every single time as secretary of state. now she wants to be president. hillary clinton doesn't have to fortitude, strength or stamina to lead in our world. she failed as secretary of state. don't let her fail us again. >> reporter: that's really the messaging you are seeing on the campaign trail again tonight. trump will be in florida. it is the idea that hillary clinton is an insider where trump is a disruptor, someone not unwilling to take on his party or people across the aisle or hillary clinton. he's someone who is trump against the world at this point. paul ryan is picking up on this as well. out with a statement just now saying paul ryan will be working to defeat democrats this november and all republicans should be working to do the
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same. that's the republican party saying, you know, we are going to work against democrats. paul ryan not necessarily pulling support of trump but telling the members of congress they should do what's best in their individual situations as they hit the trail and november 8 draws nearer. tonight i'm told we should expect trump to talk about national security. more on hillary clinton's judgment. that ad is a culmination of the things we have been seeing from him on the trail until this point. >> you know, when you look at the tweets there is talk that this is donald trump laying the groundwork for complaints if he were to lose come november. you are there at the rallies. i see you all the time. one of our embeds on the trail. the crowds, how does it work when trump talks about rigged electi elections. people are picking that up. at least their supporters. >> especially when you look at pennsylvania where the most frequent time we hear donald trump talk about don't let them steal the election from us, supporters there and other
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rallies feel this is something that could be taken away from them. many of them come to the table feeling like outsiders to the political system. a lot of them say they feel their voices are finally heard. they say, maybe we should go around to the polling locations, making sure everything is done as it should be up to code. his message resonates with supporters when he says maybe the system is rigged against me. >> that's reflecting conversations i have had with republican operatives who say it is potentially a problem for paul ryan and other establishment republicans to come out and talk about focusing on down ballot races and the senators and other congress members who have withdrawn endorsement could mobilize trump's base more. i want to bring in kristen welker who covers hillary clinton's campaign. one of the places this could be a factor is in florida. senator marco rubio in the last hour coming out and doing the full paul ryan saying he will
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continue to keep his endorsement of donald trump but isn't going to campaign for him or isn't expected to campaign for him. this could be a game changer for marco rubio. this is a place where donald trump has ground game. how important is it to clinton's strategy? >> critical to the clinton strategy. you are seeing it play out. secretary clinton will be there today. but so is former president bill clinton. you will see a lot of her top surrogates barn storming in florida between now and election day. her strategy today first of all is to urge voters to get out and register. they extended the registration deadline from today until tomorrow because of hurricane matthew. urging people to get out and vote. she understands the importance of florida perhaps better than anyone. al gore, she'll campaign with him for the first time today. of course her husband's former vice president.
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he'll be a sharp contrast with donald trump who says climate change is a hoax. the clinton campaign thinks that will help energize the younger voters and those considering third party candidates. secretary clinton spoke to a local radio station in florida today. take a listen. >> florida is the key. if we win florida, there is no way my opponent can win. that's why he's going to be in florida today. despite all of the terrible things he's said and done, he is still trying to win this election. we cannot be complacent. we cannot rest. do not grow weary while doing good. >> reporter: i wouldn't be surprised if al gore mentioned the 2000 florida recount. that's what makes him uniquely suited to talk about the importance of florida in this election cycle. secretary clinton up but only by a very narrow margin by about three points. it is a tight race there. it is a critical state. >> one of her super pacs will be
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spending on some down ballot senate races. is there a concernlinton allies are getting over confident putting resources toward other democrats instead of clinton? >> reporter: there is no doubt. some democrats are concerned and they would caution this race isn't over until it is over. the clinton campaign says donald trump has come back so many times before. we are not counting him out yet. they expect the polls to get tighter as we get closer to election day. that super pac will be up with ads focused on north carolina, nevada, new hampshire and pennsylvania. roughly the states that would allow the democrats to take control of the senate. >> kristen welker and ali vitali, my fellow road warriors, thank you very much. matt, thanks for being with us here. >> great to be with you. >> i want to read another one of donald trump's tweets directed at paul ryan. he said despite winning the second debate in a landslide,
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every poll, it is hard to do well when paul ryan and others give zero support. setting aside that most polls show donald trump did not win the debate according to voters, what does trump gain from picking a fight with leaders in washington? >> i think donald trump did have a very strong debate. he had some republicans -- several republicans, many republicans step away from him with the release of this tape. it's unfortunate that the republican party, a party i'm proud to be a member of, isn't unified now. when a party isn't unified it is hard to win national elections. i would like to see this kind of acrimony recede and try to win this election. >> isn't that onus on your candidate? >> sure, yeah. absolutely. i would encourage him to love these folks back to the cause. i think donald trump's biggest virtue in this race is that he's running against washington.
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he's running against congress. that includes people in both parties. he is an outsider, someone who will disrupt washington. when you do that people even in your own party are uneasy. one of donald trump's greatest strengths is he's an outsider. sometimes when it comes to relationships with other republicans you have to deal with this as well. there is a down side. >> you talk about the party. your party, matt, being not unified. when you are looking at the down ballot races. >> right. >> how concerned are you that what trump is doing -- picking fights with the establishment -- is going to affect the senate majority in congress potentially the house. but when you look at the down ballot races i imagine that's going through your head. >> look, i don't like it. i will be clear. i'm not going to spin you on it. i think there is a reaction to these republicans who tried to distance themselves from donald trump. he is simply reacting to what they did. i don't think he's picking the fight. i think it would be better if we
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moved beyond this type of conversation -- >> i have to ask though -- >> -- and talk about issues that matter to voters. economy, islamic terrorism and a broken washington. i think we'll win if we focus on those issues. focusing on other things -- >> let me stop you, matt. you said he's not really the one picking the fight. >> right. >> you say he's reacting. but he's coming out this morning tweeting six or seven times against fellow republicans, against paul ryan and the establishment. not against hillary clinton. how is that not him being the impetus for the battle? >> i'm being straightforward with you. i don't think this is where we want to stay. i want to move back to the issues that matter to voters. i think donald trump is reacting to what some of the members did. i think hopefully we'll move beyond this. i do wish -- are you trying to ask me if someone would take away his iphone for a short while? i would be okay with that. we need to get back to issues
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that matter with voters. >> you are somebody who speaks on behalf of the campaign. you are an influential matter of the conservative party. have you made your concerns clear to the campaign? >> look, my concerns are that we are going to lose this race. i want to win this race. the campaign is focused on winning and so is donald trump. we are all unified that in hillary clinton is elected president, her first decision will be filling the ninth justice on the supreme court. she'll fulfill a radical obama agenda. conservatives are unified on this. i think that's what this election hopefully comes down to. the side shows are less interesting to me. >> last one. are you disappointed in your candidate? >> not at all. he had a great debate. i think he did a super job. i think most honest people will say he had a strong debate performance. it's critical as he rolls out of the debate this week he has a
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good week and focuses on beating hillary clinton and focuses on fixing the economy, destroying the threat of radical islamic terror and taking the fight to washington, d.c. which needs reform. >> thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. >> they are calling him the triple threat that will help hillary clinton win over critical voters. 16 years after his own devastating presidential loss and a reportedly strained relationship with clinton is al gore really the key to turning out voters for the democratic nominee? that's coming up. today we are asking the microsoft pulse question. with four weeks until election trump tweets the shackles are off. he calls paul ryan a weak leader. is this tactic going to help him win the white house? head over to pulse.msnbc.com. we have a lot more ahead. i'm he in bristol, vginia.
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you are taking a look at how florida voted for president since 1976. to call it a key battleground state is an under statement. we are coming to you from beautiful bay county, an area with more registered republicans than democrats. in this state it is hillary clinton according to most polls that holds a slight edge over donald trump. we are three hours from seeing clinton in miami in the southern part of the sunshine state campaigning side by side with the one man in politics who may know better than anybody how important this state is. it was here in florida that election officials held the
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ballots up, recounting votes in the closest presidential race in history. the decision handed down by the supreme court ultimately gave george w. bush the victory. 16 years after the concession speech gore will be campaigning for clinton at 3:00 eastern. that's where we find kasie hunt already there waiting on this. al gore not often in the political arena except in the context of climate change. how significant is him coming out on the campaign trail? what's the strategy behind deploying him? >> it is extraordinarily significant mostly because of the fraught relationship that al gore has had with hillary clinton over the course of the past decade. they didn't get along terribly well when she was first lady. when they were both campaigning in 2000, she for senate and he for president, there was a lot of resentment on the part of gore and those close to him because of all the baggage bill clinton was carrying, how often
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bill clinton was or wasn't deployed on the campaign trail on al gore's behalf. gore stayed out of the race this year so far not endorsing until after the primary, not attending the convention. this is a long time coming, if you will. if you're right that al gore does know what can happen in florida if things don't go your way or if there is a third party candidate on the ballot. ralph nader lost florida to bush by just over 500 votes. that was what separated them. nader himself received tens of thousands of votes. i spoke to ralph nader a few weeks ago as part of the story on gary johnson who is this year's third party candidate. ralph nader said, you know, there were a heck of a lot of democrats who didn't show up to vote for al gore. gore's people see it
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differently. we are at a community college. he can talk to millennials about the importance of showing up voting for one of the major party candidates instead of the third party. that's attractive for millennials and climate change, his signature issue. something that tepids to be important to this critical voting block. >> kasie hunt will come back later in the afternoon when al gore gets on stage. want to bring in mark caputo who knows florida as well as anybody. let me start with the gore event today. one of your colleagues reported today about the frosty past relationship between hillary clinton and al gore. how do you see it playing into the dynamic today? >> you see it the enemy of my enemy is any friend. donald trump called climate change a hoax. certainly al gore being the climate change guy will stand with hillary clinton. it's true in 2000. you didn't see much of bill clinton in florida though bill clinton was popular.
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yes, al gore lost by 537 official votes. while nader did play a role the determining factor in the race aside from the fact that florida would be close is the fact that so many people cast spoiled ballots on punch card and optical scanners. miami is purposely chosen for this. this is a heavy democratic area. a good place to turn out the democratic base. this is one of the areas affected by climate change. especially miami beach which has tidal flooding without rain. >> gore didn't endorse clinton in the primary. didn't go to the dnc in july. why campaign for her now? is he making it something that benefits him? >> i would imagine that's a question to ask him. my best guess would be al gore made his post vice presidential career about climate change. he's facing one of the premier
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climate change skeptics to put it on the ballot. the point of view gets across. one of the best ways is to defeat donald trump. the best way is make sure hillary clinton wins florida. >> i don't know if you heard kasie hunt. the appeal al gore could have there. coming up with younger folks. when you're out with progressive groups the idea that climate change is an issue. is al gore the sexy name to bring millennials out? is this the right calculation for clinton? >> you're younger than i am. if young people are turned on by al gore it puzzles me. but they were turned on by bernie sanders so who knows. the idea that al gore makes the hearts go pitter patter is news to me. we hear about how climate change is an important issue to various demographic blocs of the electorate. especially in the midterms it
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doesn't move the needle. maybe it is different in a general election. in the end this election is essentially a referendum on donald trump. right now if you look at the polls in florida and elsewhere donald trump is just losing. >> speaking of donald trump i would be remiss if i didn't ask about marco rubio, a key senate race nationally for control of the senate. this is the saying he released an hour ago. he said i have consistently rejected his offensive rhetoric and behavior. he said i disagree with his opponent though on virtually everything. he said, i wish we had better choices for president. i do not want hillary clinton to be our next president. therefore my position has not changed. it is marco rubio keeping his endorsement but his campaign, his staffer saying he won't get out on the trail for donald trump. he is up over patrick murphy here in a poll taken before trump's bombshell weekend. is this marco rubio making the calculation that dumping trump is too risky? >> i don't think so.
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look what happened to the march 15 primary when marco rubio ran against trump. trump crushed him in florida. in marco rubio's home state. >> every county but one. >> marco rubio has been consistent saying donald trump sucks and hillary clinton is worse. not much change there. this is a chance for patrick murphy to make an issue, get attention. the untold story and patrick murphy's struggles is the fact that washington democrats and the senate majority pac pulled 12 million of 20 million in promised ad spending. in a state where patrick murphy is basically unknown at least four weeks of saturation advertising murphy needed and isn't getting. >> politico's mark caputo, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> coming up. russia -- with love? after donald trump misquotes a hacked e-mail new reports that the kremlin might be feeding attack lines on hillary clinton.
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we are back in panama city here in the panhandle of florida. a state that's gone to the victor in nine of the last ten presidential elections. one where a big win can mean a margin of a few points or less. as trump ignites a war with paul ryan today he also appears to be maintaining his cordial relationship with russia's vladimir putin. two stories from nbc news, one from newsweek about russia and hacked e-mails under line trump's tendency to take on the
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russian line regarding controversy with the u.s. joining me now as a plane flies overhead. forgive me. the author of the newsweek piece. curt, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> this is what happens when you are down the street from an air force base. fighter jets over your live shots. >> sounds like a plane is about to land on you. >> i want to talk about trump coming out last night. it's going by. thanks for rolling with that. quoting a story, donald trump, at his rally. he doesn't cite the source. talking about a new e-mail about benghazi. let me play it. you can take the story from there. >> the attack was almost certainly preventable, benghazi. clinton was in charge of the state department. it failed to protect the united states personnel at an american consulate in libya. he meant benghazi. if the gop wants to raise it as
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a talking point against her, it is legitimate. >> so, curt, you heard that. something dawned an you. walk us through it. >> well, trump was reading that as an e-mail from sydney blumenthal, a close confident of hillary clinton and presenting it as the evidence that even those closest to hillary clinton knew that this was -- you know, that benghazi was a scandal and it was a legitimate attack. after he said it, all the people in the audience started cheering "lock her up, lock her up," but the problem is those aren't sydney blumenthal's words. those are mine. that was from an article i wrote more than a year ago that came out just before the benghazi
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committee's testimony or hillary clinton's testimony before the benghazi committee. what made this particularly odd is that earlier in the day that same e-mail, the same e-mail where my words were being put into sydney blumenthal's mouth appeared on a website run by russian media outlet. it was the same thing. it was the same argument. it only appeared there. it declared it to be the october surprise that was going to bring down hillary clinton. hours later, donald trump is reciting the exact same argument, making the exact same error, using the exact same words attributed to the exact same guy. all of it was fake. >> is there a possibility that
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trump or his people may have gotten the story anywhere other than russian media? >> well, it wasn't published anywhere else. that use of the excerpt -- i mean, this was a 75-page e-mail. i printed it out. i wrote a 10,000-word story. the two sentences were used, put into sydney blumenthal's mouth were on page 19. prior to that there were 22 mentions that this is an article from newsweek. the likely he llihood that two organizations -- the trump campaign and a russian government media site that's been cited by u.s. intelligence as being part of the campaign to upend the american election, the probability that both made the exact same mistake with the exact same sentences with the 75-page e-mail is pretty
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far-fetched. there is a possibility that there is a third party involved we don't know about feeding both the russians and the trump campaign. i'm not saying trump is a spy for russia or he's taking putin's words, but it is quite disturbing that a candidate for president of the united states is standing up in front of a crowd and reciting russian disinformation, russian propaganda as truth. if he doesn't know that it was russian propaganda -- and i don't believe he did -- there needs to be an exploration of where is he getting his information? who gave him that? how did it end up that he was reading, you know, russian disinformation from the stage? >> newsweek's kurt eichenwald
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usually writing the story. now at the center of it. coming up, fighting to survive a civil war with the gop in a state of chaos. republicans in congressional races across the country including here in florida. making last ditch moves to try to keep control of congress. a look at the state of the down ballot races coming up. and first i want to get to a quick check of the responses to the microsoft pulse questions. with four weeks until the election trump tweets the shackles are off and calls paul ryan weak. will it help him win the white house? you can see most of you say, no, it's not going to help. 9% of you say, heck, maybe it will. we have a lot more ahead from panama city, florida. a live look now as we are here in the sunshine state. our producer on a boat this afternoon. we'll be right back.
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to vote for hillary has crossed my mind. i think donald trump is so unstable, so dangerous it's crossed my mind. >> the republican party is in such bad shape that glenn beck has considered -- hasn't come to the conclusion. >> i'm not going to. >> you have considered voting for hillary clinton. >> yeah. i considered it. >> we are back from florida. that was conservative talk show host glenn beck saying words that could shock listeners of his radio show that he would consider voting for clinton. he said he plans to vote for a little known constitutional party candidate. it gives you insight into the current state of the republican party. i want to bring in gop strategi strategist hogan gibley. thanks for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> we played that little sound
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bite from glenn beck saying he was considering a clinton vote. you have john mccain saying he'll write in lindsey graham's name. paul ryan isn't actively campaigning for trump. who does this hurt more -- donald trump or vulnerable senators trying to keep a lock on the senate on capitol hill. >> it hurts the person at the top of the ticket. when you have a standard you want donald trump to bring everyone into the tent, you want everyone rowing in the same direction. this is what's interesting about this. the turmoil and the anger and angst out there amongst the american people have in the sense of party politics. really the only thing that matters to the house and senate is how many trump supporters are in the district or state. in this particular election it's easy for those who can look at congressional district numbers and say most people are trump
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supporters so i will be fine. people in the senate who say in a heavily red state like south carolina, i will be fine. the question is those in toss-up states and districts and campaigns and how you run cam pains matter. the ability of the politician to be able to walk the tightrope to hold close the independents, the ones they need to get. at the same time keeping enough distance from trump supporters and bringing them into the tent is just fascinating at what politicians have to go through this cycle to maintain seats. for the republicans. >> trump's been twieting like his fingers are on fire. 30 minutes ago he said the very foul mouthed senator john mccain begged for my support during his primary -- i gave, he won -- then dropped me over locker room remarks. you have been a republican strategist for a long time. can you say this tweetstorm is productive? >> i wouldn't say it is productive. it's no secret people like paul
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ryan and john mccain haven't been fans of donald trump from day one. in fact, when donald trump received more votes than anybody in the history of republican presidential primary politics he still had to go kiss the rings of so many in washington to try to get support. what's interesting about that is the people like paul ryan and john mccain, republicans elected them in office to do several things. to stop syrian refugee relocation, close our borders, get jobs back here, protect the country. now we have more terrorist attacks on american soil than we have seen in a long time. we have put them in office to do certain things. they haven't accomplished those things. a lot of republican voters, a lot of democrat voters are just flat out angry. that's why bernie sanders was able to get 47% of a vote when you had someone like hillary clinton at the top of the ticket. trying to be -- excuse me. his opponent. the country is really divided. not just the republican side. in fact, participation as you
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know is up amongst republicans by 68% as it was in 2012. it is down 23% on the democratic side. a lot of excitement out there on the republican side. i don't know if it translates to a victory for trump at this point. >> thanks so much. appreciate you joining us. we'll find out if that's translating in the latest poll from our new nbc news "wall street journal" numbers in 20 minutes. we'll break that information at the top of the next hour. up next, a look at many americans more and more frustrated by the state of the presidential race, especially after the fireworks we saw sunday night. what is the international reaction to the political brawl here at home? our matt bradley hits the streets of london to find out next. we are live from the panama city marina. this is msnbc, the place for politics and today the place for boats. i work 'round the clock. i want my blood sugar to stay in control. so i asked about tresiba. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪
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we are back here in panama city, florida. donald trump will be holding a rally at a nearby park. the latest poll shows donald trump with a 9% favorability rating among you peens compared to hillary clinton's 59% as we look at the . matt, you had a chance to get out and talk with people about the debates and the candidates. what are they saying across the pond. >> reporter: thanks, hallie. everybody we spoke with all had read about or seen the debate. all said they were disappointed in just how low the level of political discourse in the united states had sunk. take a look. what do you think about bringing this up in a presidential debate? >> it's pretty nasty. >> reporter: would you see this in british politics? >> no, never. >> reporter: you see nastiness. >> not this level. >> reporter: but a lot of theater. >> yeah, you do. >> reporter: yelling and -- >> that's just the way we do things here. it's not nasty.
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this is pretty much dragging it into the gutter. certainly as a british person watching that it e's low for america as a whole. >> it's good that donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you would be in jail. >> reporter: now? >> it's two steps back. which is why it's amazing that someone like trump could get as far as he has. >> first of all she's there as secretary of state with the so-called line in the sand -- >> no, i wasn't. i hate to interrupt. but at some point -- >> you were in contact. total contact. >> at some point we need facts here. >> reporter: does it surprise you? >> we thought the second debate would be more personal. it's only personal. what struck me was the fact-checking on it was appalling. >> secretary clinton does mr. trump have the discipline to be a good leer? >> no.
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>> i'm shocked to hear that. >> if he becomes president, to be a world leader and to represent america he's certainly not the right person for that. >> that was matt bradley, our man on the street, getting reaction in london. up next, george w. bush's former secretary of commerce to talk about why he will be voting for hillary clinton over his own party's nominee. stay with us. for lower back pain sferers, the search for relie often leads to this. introducing drug-free aleve direct trapy. a hi intsity tens device for deep penetrang lief at the source.ce lyn docto' offes. new eve dire thepy.
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we're going to cut taxes. hillary's going to raise taxes. we're going to cut taxes big league for the middle class. big league for businesses. we're going to grow again. companies aren't going to be leaving our shores. they're not going to be leaving us for mexico and other places. >> we're back here in panama city where donald trump will be here tonight. that what you just heard was trump in ambridge, pennsylvania,
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monday, once again promising his policies would help grow american businesses. you're looking at a dozen corporate leaders signing an open letter urging those not to back trump saying, quote, trump is bad for business. joining me is carlos gutierrez, served as secretary of commerce for president bush, former ceo of kellogg, and you have also endorsed hillary clinton. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> you've been a republican all your life. you worked for the george w. bush administration. hillary clinton has promised to raise taxes for people like you, so what is it about her policies that are causing you to throw your support behind her? >> look, i don't agree with all of secretary clinton's policies. i don't agree with all of the democrat party policies. i'm a republican. and i continue to be a republican. but i believe that if you look at the two resumes you have in front of me, i'm going to make a hiring decision, one is donald trump, one is hillary clinton.
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i will take hillary clinton for the good of the country, hands down. i just can't do it. i can't vote for donald trump. i think it's wrong. and i think at some point we have to put country over party. >> so, i'm on the campaign trail often with people who support donald trump. they often will bring up his background in business. despite his bankruptcies, despite other issues that he has had, they say, i like that this guy is a businessman and i like he's going to do for the country what he did for the trump brand. so, what is your message to those people? >> well, a lot of business people are very, very concerned about donald trump. for a couple of reasons. he's declared war on the two things that have made this the greatest economy on the world. one is trade and the other one is immigration. so, you know, right there it doesn't matter what he does with taxes, it doesn't matter what he says, but starting a trade war
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and making immigrants feel like this is not the place to come, that perhaps they should go to canada or the uk or australia or someplace else, is bad for the economy. on one hand, you've got these economic policies that just don't add up, and then on the other hand you have the characterissue. i've been interviewing leaders all my life, i've been searching for leaders all my life. if i was interviewing someone and i found out they made fun of handicap people, i don't care where they went to school, what their grades were, what their name was, i wouldn't hire that person. that's just one example of so many i can pick. not good for the country. >> carlos gud rez, thank you for being with us. >> appreciate it. so much ahead from panama city, florida. if you have medicare
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we've been talking about donald trump's tweet storm today as we come back to you live from panama city, where the gop nominee will be later on tonight, trying to rally his supporters. here's a new tweet he just put out. one, hitting hillary clinton, the first one doing so today. we've seen him slam paul ryan, john mccain, the mia and taut his support. now getting on the strategy, at least for the moment, that many republicans would like to see, attacking the democratic nominee. time for one last look at our microsoft pulse question. four weeks until the election, trump has been tweeting about the shackles being off, calling paul ryan weak. will this help him win the white house? here's your votes, 93% say no, 7% say yes. it will be open for another hour. keep the votes coming in,
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pulse.msnbc.com. snapchat me, as our producer frank has bringing you the live bump shots. we're sticking around in florida. donald trump is staying in the key battleground, hoping to make up the little gap he has where his ground game is something democratic operatives point to as potentially a factor. he has a rally south of us in oe kala north of orlando at noon. if you want to go road tripping, hang out. we'll be retreating a lot of your comments this afternoon and doing a snapchat q&a, too. got to let you know, we have been here at the panama city marina. they've been great to us. they've been taking us on boat rides, letting us hang out with all the yayachts. now over to thomas. >> hi, everybody. breaking new this is hour. the first major national poll since the presidential debate as
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donald trump is declaring the shackles are off and wages war on the republican party. trump unleashing this tirade via twittering, labeling paul ryan as weak and ineffective saying republicans are, quote, disloyal and don't know how to win. our team has all these angles covered. i want to begin with these newly released nbc news/"wall street journal" polls and our msnbc numbers guru steve kornacki with us to break it all down. what's the headline? >> the headline here is it's a fluid situation we're looking at. now, we're still trying to load the numbers. that's how hot off the presses these things are. while they work on that, let me just tell you the numbers -- those are the wrong ones. let me tell you what the numbers are that we're looking at, though. yesterday, the news yesterday was we had a poll from the weekend, 48 hours over the weekend when this video story was breaking, donald trump's comments from 2005. that poll showed that in the four-way, all four candidates, donald trump falling behind by
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