donald trump is declaring the shackles are off and wages war on the republican party. trump unleashing this tirade via twittering, labeling paul ryan as weak and ineffective saying republicans are, quote, disloyal and don't know how to win. our team has all these angles covered. i want to begin with these newly released nbc news/"wall street journal" polls and our msnbc numbers guru steve kornacki with us to break it all down. what's the headline? >> the headline here is it's a fluid situation we're looking at. now, we're still trying to load the numbers. that's how hot off the presses these things are. while they work on that, let me just tell you the numbers -- those are the wrong ones. let me tell you what the numbers are that we're looking at, though. yesterday, the news yesterday was we had a poll from the weekend, 48 hours over the weekend when this video story was breaking, donald trump's comments from 2005. that poll showed that in the four-way, all four candidates, donald trump falling behind by 11 points.

now, that was what we -- here it is. okay, this is brand-new what we're talking about. yesterday it was 11. now, what happened is they kept doing the poll for an additional day. that is, the day after the presidential debate on sunday night. the question was, did donald trump turn in the kind of performance that would make that gap shrink. the question is, well, a little bit. yes, you can see, before the debate, just taking into account the news that was playing ought over the weekend about that video it was 46-35. after the debate, when you add in a day of people who had watched the debate and some of the coverage about that, that 11 points was down to 9. we can also tell you -- again, we're talking about a very small sample size here. there is some margin for error. we can tell you just in that one day, that one day after the debate, the margin was down to seven, it was 46-39, hillary clinton over donald trump. so, that shows movement. that suggests movement back in

donald trump's direction after the debate. when you take a two-way race, just hillary clinton, just donald trump, that margin also seven in the one day just after the debate. you can see some other numbers starting to move here. donald trump's supporters wanting him to stay in the race. that number going up as a result of the debate. that's another movement in his direction that we saw. again, i think the headline here, thomas, is this is fluid. what we got over the weekend was a look in that poll, the 48 hours that may be the worst 48 hours donald trump has suffered as a candidate. his poll numbers fell down double digits. now we're seeing a hint that that debate performance was enough for that margin to start shrinking a little bit. that still leaves him clearly behind. we have him down nine points now when you take in two days of the video coverage, one day after the debate, still has him down nine points. but movement back in his

direction. obviously, we'll need to see more numbers come in over the next few days, over the rest of this week. but for the donald trump campaign, there's a sliver of good news in there in that it looks like t worst fm that video may be over. if he's still sitting at a nine-point gap, that's pretty far out and we're very close to the election. >> and we now know he's saying he's unshackled. if this has been a shackled donald trump to get this far, who knows what it means over the next 20-plus days. i want to go to peter alexander covering the trump campaign, hallie jackson, and kristen welker in brooklyn. peter, we have new poll numbers. they demonstrate that trump is behind in double digits, but meanwhile, he's been tweeting furiously over the last five hours. his campaign is out with a new ad today showing the shackles may have truly come off. i want to show people. >> hillary clinton failed every single time as secretary of state. now she wants to be president.

hillary clinton doesn't have the fortitude, strength or stamina to lead in our world. she failed as secretary of state. don't let her fail us again. >> i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> so, that's a pretty interesting strategy by the team with this ad, although the last thing we heard from donald trump on that stage was the positive note about hillary clinton being a fighter, that she never gives up. so the strategy for the campaign seems to be what to help close the gap? >> that's what he said on stage for the last question when asked about a positive for hillary clinton, but last night he was back to his old form, attacking the democratic nominee. at the beginning, right after that stumble she had at the 9/11 memorial, donald trump sort of didn't engage on that issue, didn't hit her for her illness, but then he began to mock her more publicly, and this new ad does that as well. can you see he feels emboldened by this new twitter tirade, the

fact he no longer feels like he's trying to please the establishment of republicans by restraining himself. here's one of the first ads over the course of the morning, reading in part, it's so nice the shackles have been taken off me and i can fight for america the way i want to. as for the civil war within the party right now, particularly the new -- the renewed feud with the house speaker, paul ryan, here is what trump said in part about paul ryan after describing him as a weak and ineffective leader, describing him also as disloyal. we'll put that tweet up for you. he says, despite wing the second debate in a landslide, every poll, although our poll and others dispute that, it's hard to do well when paul ryan and others give you zero support. it seems ee teeing up who he may be able to blame, establishment republicans f he's not able to win november 9th. another one i want to show you going back to his primary target throughout the course of this general election season, which is hillary clinton. he says, i hope people are looking at the disgraceful

behavior of hillary clinton as exposed by wikileaks. she is unfit to run. that idea of fitness, the one both sides continue to hammer home, fitness, lack of fitness and temperament, the point hillary clinton has made throughout, the lack of fitness, donald trump, says in hillary clinton is his primary assault on her over the course of the last several days, too. >> peter, thank you very much. let's go to our colleague hallie jackson in panama city, where donald trump will hold a rally later today. as peter talked about this civil war, it continues with donald trump, this new shot at john mccain after the arizona senator stuck to his decision to unendorse trump and saying he can't vote for him at his debate last night. take a look. >> when mr. trump attacks women and demeans the women in our nation and our society, that is a point where i just have to part company. >> do you trust his finger on the button? >> i do not see a scenario where the finger would be on the button. >> hallie, one of the last

tweets -- i mean, there's been a litany -- trump called out mccain and called him foul-mouthed and we want on about that. mccain is not the only one that needs trump voters to hold onto his seat in november. >> reporter: no, we're talking about all of these vulnerable senators down the ballot. this is something we've been talking about for a little bit. you look at the question, it's all about the margins. if it's going to be a trump loss in november, if the polling we are seeing holds for the next 20-plus days, how much is that loss going to be by? there is general thinking that maybe, you know, six, seven points, you could see some vulnerable senators hold onto their seats. if it gets to be like nine points, big numbers, it will be hugely problematic to maintain for republicans to maintain control of the senate. marco rubio is a good example of this. he's leading his opponent, democratic rival in florida, where we are, panama city marina, but it's this line that rubio's got to walk. he's sort of doing what paul ryan is doing is he saying he is going to voted for donald trump.

he's going to keep his endorsement of trump, but he's kind of hands off when it comes to campaigning with him. for example, aides telling us rubio has no plans to attend any presidential events from now until election day. i want to read you the statement that came out from senator rubio's office. he says, i ran against donald trump. while i respect voters chose him as gop nominee, i have never hesitated to oppose his policies. i have consistently rejected his offensive rhetoric and behavior. i disagree with him on many things. i disagree with his opponent on virtually everything. rubio going on to say that he wishes we had better options for president, but he doesn't want hillary clinton, and, therefore, his position has not changed. again, this is rubio doing what we've seen, for example, the richard burrs of the world do but not the john mccains. mccain withdrawing his endorsement, kelly ayotte revoking her support. we're told by sources, kelly o'donnell, he's putting separation between house

republicans, what he's doing to help house republicans and help vulnerable republicans and staying hands-off when it comes to donald trump. it is what's been called the republican dilemma and something we will continue to see play out over the next three weeks or so, particularly when these controversies with donald trump come up. >> hallie, stand by. let's go to our colleague kristen welker in brookl, new york, near the headquarters. everything florida, florida, florida for the clintons today. this news could really change for them because donald trump tweeting about the disgraceful behavior of hillary clinton exposed by wikileaks. while these numbers are good news, there's new information that's hitting the web. >> reporter: that's right. these leaks continue from wick y wikileaks. we saw it come up in the debate. shefts pressed about the fact that sometimes politicians have to be different in public than they are in private. and now in a new round of leaks, we're learning that -- a number

of new things. number one, there was real concern about bernie sanders during the primary. also she struggled to come up with a message during the primary. this is something they'll have to continue to contend with moving forward. you talk about florida. that is the focus today. secretary clinton there with her husband's former vice president, al gore. they're going to be trying to energize the base, millenniaiam they think al gore will do that given his record on climate change. it comes as the registration deadline has been extended by a day, thomas, until tomorrow up. say it's all hands on deck in florida. bill clinton is going to be there as well. of course, it comes as donald trump has been hitting him for his past personal indiscretions. the campaign really trying to shift the narrative on that. but today, tweeting out something to try to counter that. this is from bill clinton who tweeted, 41 years ago i married my best friend and the finest change-maker i've ever known and, yes, i'm still in awe of

her. trying to shift the narrative. still things looming over secretary clinton's campaign even as she continues to hold this lead in the race, thomas. >> thank you very much to kristen, to hallie, to steve and peter. i appreciate it. joining me now is congressman trent franks, a representative from arizona joining us from phoenix. among the many tweeteds we saw -- >> thank you. >> absolutely. among these many tweets we see today from donald trump, there was this one where he goes, our very weak and ineffective leader paul ryan had a bad conference call where his members went wild at his disloyalty. sir, you were on that call. are you embarrassed by ryan's leadership? >> let me just say, i was on that call and i'm honor-bound to discuss anything that was said on that call. in the "new york times" i was clearly misquoted. i can express my quote, if it's of consequence here. when i talked about mrs. clinton, that we needed to understand the difference between donald trump's words,

which were reprehensible and mrs. clinton's reprehensible policies. i went on to say that while donald trump's words insulted and degraded theomen of this country, if hillary clinton is the president, we will continue to see the dismemberment of approximately half a million little tiny women every year for god knows how long. that was essentially my comment. that was meant to be to fellow colleagues to help them understand what was really at stake here. i truly believe, with all of my heart, that any republican leader needs to remind himself or herself that their oath before almighty god was to support and defend the constitution of the united states. and anything that we do that weakens donald trump's ability to defeat hillary clinton might put mrs. clinton in the white house where she would appoint supreme court justices that would not only weaken the constitution but ultimately potentially destroy it. >> but do you think based on that, that donald trump actually

understands the constitution when he's challenging hillary clinton on that stage saying, if he were elected, that she'd be in jail based on law and order philosophy of his campaign? >> well, when the question of the constitution was asked of the candidates, mrs. clinton went through a whole litany of social engineering and how she would appoint people based on legal precedence. it was all about engineering a society. nothing -- she didn't mention the -- she did not mention the word constitution one time. the central response from donald trump was to make sure that they appointed people to the supreme court that would apply the constitution as written according to its original intent. if you do anything else to the constitution, you essentially make it a dead letter. >> when it comes to what's taking place right now within the republican party, and i know there is reporting about this call, and you're saying the quote from you that was reported was about babies being destroyed limb from limb. you're saying you did not say

limb from limb, correct? >> i may have said dismembered limb from limb. that wasn't the point. i never mentioned the word fetus. i mentioned the word little tiny women because it was in the context 6 which candidate cared more about women. i believe with all of my heart that -- and i think most of the women in this country realize that there's a difference between very degrading words of trump and very dangerous policies of hillary clinton. and i think there have been many opportunities for donald trump to try to defend his words. he's not done that. he's apologized. and i just hope somehow that the country realizes what's really at stake here because i have no doubt that mrs. clinton and her campaign will continue to try to drop these kind of attacks against donald trump, and they'll do anything they can to try to -- >> sir, what about john mccain -- >> to get her attention from the real policies. >> john mccain from your own home state at his own debate last night said he would not

vote for donald trump. he pulled his endorsement from him, reportedly, california congressman dana rohrabacher on that call, saying republicans leaving trump are cowards. so, is john mccain a coward? >> i'm not going to speak to dana rohrabacher's comments. >> is john mccain -- >> senator mccain -- when senator mccain said he might write in lindsey graham, i would say this much, lindsey graham may be very flattered by that but that approach has a chance of irweaponriably damaging the constitution and generations in this country. and i think it's a profound mistake on congressman mccain's part. >> thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. >> absolutely. coming up next is the trump campaign of strategy going down in a blaze of glory taking the republican party with him. we'll talk with boris ep stein and then back to the future, all

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i'm so proud of my father, the job that he's done. i sometimes feel like he's fighting the entire world. >> at least all the moderators. >> maybe the greatest political machine in modern history. he's fighting the entire mainstream media. he's fighting sometimes his own party. and it's -- i promised him and i will be by his side every second between now and november 8th. >> so, there we have eric trump in greeley, colorado, strongly

defending his dad and the personal reputation that has taken some hits over this, trying to defend him against the media, also from the in-fighting that's taken place within the gop. while we have donald trump, the nominee, of the gop defiant, the brand-new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows his campaign is behind by double dijs. hillary clinton maintaining this lead in a head-to-head race 50% to 40% nationally. all of this as prominent republicans begin to distance themselves from donald trump. boris epstein, senior adviser with the trump campaign. donald trump went on a twitter tirade. he's on his way to texas. the poll numbers show that they are kind of in a freefall when it comes to this close to the election and not being able to close this gap to hillary clinton. if he's been running, shackled right now because he said he's going to go unshackled, what does that mean? >> first of all, as steve said

at the beginning of the program, beginning of the hour, actually the gap is closing. the day after the debate, so it was 11, now the difference is 7. in the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that was taken several weeks ago we were tied in a lot of other polls, we were down by six in this poll. it did sample baseball. that's inside baseball. i'm not going to tell you everything is amazing and we're up by ten points. obviously, this is a tight race, a close race and it will continued to be that. >> what does being unshackled mean? >> the separation from the elites, the separation from the d.c. establishment, the corrupt system of the d.c. is exactly what's been the appeal of donald trump throughout this election, why he won 14 million votes in the gop primary. this is absolutely a positive to the bernie sanders voters, independents and those sick and

tired. same old. >> those from the rnc, all those that signed a pledge that donald trump basically brow beat to get their support if they wouldn't give it willingly, now speaker ryan who he courted and tried to maintain a relationship to have the top republican in congress support him. he's still not pulling his endorsement, but what does that mean for donald trump and knowing that while he he wants to get elected president, wonts he like to maintain the house and the congress? doesn't he worry those down-ballot -- >> mccain, ayotte, they never endorsed. ryan, mccain who i respect greatly and worked nor '08, always tepid supporters and took a long time to decide. there's no -- there's no mystery here. the d.c. establishment, owned by republicans, have never been with donald trump. why? because donald trump is a change agent, a true change agent. sometimes it seems like some of these republicans would rather

have the devil they know in hillary clinton. hillary clinton is somebody who -- look at all the information coming out today, newt report on hate haiti -- wi 24 hours of the haiti disaster, the state department was receiving incoming calls from foundation flagging friends of bill to give them preferential treatment. it's corruption between the clinton foundation and white house. >> you talk about hillary clinton, and donald trump has gone down this line of attack to bring the three women who accuse him of sexual misconduct, also a woman who feels she was abused by hillary clinton years ago and is trying to dredge up a lot of old ghosts and things that seem to be litigated and settled. is this the best approach for donald trump? because there is a response within this new poll that demonstrates that that didn't

really move the needle for him after the debate. >> the poll after the debate is better than it was before the debate. if you look at the night sunday night, it was a positive. here's what that was all about. it was about giving these women a voice. you say it was litigated. that construct is not really true because the information of how hillary clinton treated these women did not really come out until the 2000s, books by carl bernstein, hardly a right wing con spirists -- >> donald trump called paula jones a loser on the chris matthews show. publicly called her a loser and now using her as a prop for his own game. so, how does he manage that because it's a major contradiction? >> if you want to speak of props, that's what hillary clinton did with alicia machado, mark cuban. they are not props. they had their lives destroyed by clintons. specifically hillary clinton. bill clinton has problems, that's their family problem, but hillary clinton is trying to act like she's a champion for women. she smeared, bullied and shamed

these women. monica lewinsky says shame stuck to her like tar. it's proven by carl bernstein that hillary clinton led the smear, hired private investigators -- >> that's not proven. >> it's not proven. >> we have new women now with nancy o'dell and ari zucker, the soap opera actress thrown into the middle of a political mess because of the sound released of donald trump -- >> we can thank the clinton camp for that, right? >> let's see how nancy o'dell responded last night on "entertainment night". >> there is no room for object fiction of women or anyone for that matter, not in even in the locker room. the conversation has to change because everybody deserves respect. >> nancy o'dell, huge audience with "e.t," donald trump has to give the apology without the caveat of the locker room talk.

why can't he do that? >> i completely agree with nancy o'dell and so does mr. trump. he apologized -- >> he said it was locker room talk. he just tweeted. it's not locker room talk. every high profile athlete has taken to twitter to say this is sexual assault if you grab a woman -- >> there was no sexual assault. >> no, what he was characterizing, if yourope a woman, that's sexual assault. you could be arrested for that. this is not locker room talk. >> i'm not going to litigate comments from -- >> we don't have to litigate it but what i'm saying is locker room talk is not an apology. the apology can stand for itself but why a caveat of locker room talk? . it's not a caveat. it's a discrimination. he's describing his interaction -- >> no, just apologize. >> he did apologize. he was there in that conversation and he's describing what it was. listen, you heard the tape. obviously, him and billy bush are messing around and joke around. now, having said that, donald trump, melania trump, the trump campaign have all said those words were-r offensive,

regrettable, and he apologized. we need to move on. talking about apologizing, when is hillary clinton going to apologize for saying terror is not a threat to this nation? she also said we cannot vet all the refugees coming in from syria but she wants 550% more -- >> it takes 18 months to get syrian refugees into the country. boris, we have to leave it there. senior adviser to the trump campaign. we've been asking for our microsoft pulse question four weeks before the election. trump tweets the shackles have been taken off and calls paul ryan a weak leader. will that tactic help? head over to pulse.msnbc.com and cast your vote. if this was a shackled trump compared to unshackled, it will be interesting. the election 20 days away, wikileaks releasing more on the campaign, so how much damage

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we have the website wikileaks releasing another batch of e-mails from hillary clinton's campaign, and one involves donna brazile, alleging she shared a question with the clinton campaign that the candidate would be asked during a cnn town hall in march. joining me is ari melber. we need to point out we reached out to both the hillary clinton and donna brazile. if this is true, is this a legal concern or just a political concern of favoritism? >> it's both. legally these are allegedly hacked, stolen e-mails. there's no digital difference under the law whether someone breaks into your home to take your papers or goes online and takes your e-mails. that's illegal.

and nbc has confirmed the united states government is pointing the finger at russia. buyer beware, we haven't cleared that. clearing the caveats, the notion that the clinton campaign obtained some sort of extra edge for favorable treatment because of the people it knows, on the flipside, donna brazile is a long-time dementd parocratic pa leader so it's not a shock she's in touch with democrats. >> again, the caveat here is donna brazile, we reached out to her, she has not given a response. a cnn spokesperson responded saying, we have never, ever given a town hall question to anyone beforehand. in one of those e-mails it was illuminated by donna, sometimes i get these questions in advance, by panelists, what the context of town halls will be, but they're saying, we have never, ever done that before. they're trying to distance themselves from what donna

brazile did. >> as a lawyer, i would say, is cnn speaking on behalf of its management, full-time employees, the people questioning in the debates, no moderators have been called into question or does cnn writ large anyone on their payroll, and i'll point out this is a structural thing. all the media companies, ourselves included, host some of our own interviews and debates with a set of policies. the general election debates are much more structurally independent. the gop, rnc has already criticized cnn directly for this. and saying this is some edge for clinton. another flag i would in the e-mails is you see the standards that he's doing better appealing to black voters. there's a big discussion that will continue to get about which willcy clinton. some of this is what i would call dirty laundry.

it's not hugely significant but it's not good for any campaign to have the private e-mail there. >> i don't think any of us would like it. msnbc legal correspondent ari melber. still ahead, the clinton campaign is calling him a triple threat, al gore hitting the campaign trail for hillary clinton. with hillary clinton. in the place that cost gore the 2000 election. how these one-time white house rivals are now teaming up to defeat donald trump. is it a professor who never stops being a student? is it a caregiver determined to te care of her own? or is it a lifetime of work that blazes the path to yourasons? your personal success takes a financial partner who values it as much as you do.

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he's going to be speaking at a rally in miami. it's scheduled to be a start -- or it's scheduled to start at the top of the hour, but gore is being called this political triple threat and it is not singing, dancing, acting. joining me from florida is kasie hunt. al gore, why now and why florida? >> reporter: if al gore is going to be singing and dancing, i'm not quite sure what i would do or say to you about it. we're not expecting him on to do either of those things here in miami. we're expecting him to make a pitch to millennial voters in a couple of different ways. one on climate change. that's become his signature issue since he left the white house as vice president and lost that presidential race in 2000. it's become a focus of his. second because he is somebody who can very personally speak to what happens when voters pick a third-party candidate that they

feel is more in line with their maybe in this case more progressive views. he dealt with ralph nader here in florida, potentially in the view of many people close to gore handing george w. bush florida and, therefore, the presidency. he's here to warn voters, especially not young voters, to throw their vote away on someone like a gary johnson, for example. he's here in florida partly because the climate change message plays well here, and hillary clinton said this herself on the radio this morning, if donald trump cannot win in florida, there's almost no path for him to become president of the united states. i would almost go so far to say there is no path. the clinton camp assumes if they win in michigan, wisconsin, colorado, places they are and have been solidly well ahead, all they have to do is win in florida. they wouldn't have to win a single other battleground state to get to the 270 electoral college votes she needs.

this is the state where donald trump has his best ground game. the clinton campaign has had a few hiccups. that's why they're focus sod heavily here. >> we know trump will be there later today. all eyes on florida for al gore, hillary clinton paired up in 2016. he did not endorse her in '08. does he like hillary now or just not like trump, fears trump? >> i can't look into his brain. he did not endorse her in '08. he did endorse her this year. he said i'm going to vote for hillary clinton and i'm not going to attend her convention, which he did not. he can talk about his own experience in florida, that terrible experience for democrats basically seeing what they thought was a win evaporate and george w. bush became president and, you know, that's all she wrote. the history book is very different because of the outcome of that race. and that's why gore's there. >> there are probably a lot of 16-year-olds who aren't named chad because of hanging chads. >> you're right. >> and a lot of 16-year-olds who

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in new hampshire where kelly ayotte is in the political fight of her life, her rival is rolling out a new ad tying 2005 footage of donald trump to the

republican incumbent. >> would you tell a child to aspire to be like donald trump? would you point to him to be a roll model? >> absolutely, i would do that. >> i would look her right in that fat, ugly face. >> i moved on her like a [ bleep ]. it's like a magnet. >> when you're a star, they let you do it. >> ayotte is one of several down-ballot races republicans fear could be in jeopardy and lost because of donald trump. rick tyler is an msnbc analyst, former communications director for ted cruz campaign. let's start with the new poll numbers out this afternoon showing hillary clinton leads by nine points in a four-way race, ten points in a head-to-head match-up with trump. so, did trump stop the bleeding with his debate performance? >> i think a little bit but i think he stopped the bleeding only with the people who are actually supporting him. he came out hard against hillary clinton and he landed a lot of punches that he didn't do in the first dehaving said that, he didn't really score any point

for the general election because he didn't add anything to his base. he seems to be consolidating only his base and not expanding the middle. >> so, when we think about certain stars within the gop party stand righnow, we have your former boss, ted cruz, spoke in the last hour about why he continues to support donald trump. and i just to want play for the folks what he said. take a look. >> the republican nominee because i think hillary clinton is an absolute disaster. now, my differences with donald, i have articulated at great length during the campaign. and i tried all my might. >> you sure did. >> it was an amazing journey. >> amazing journey, forgive me, that was from yesterday not last hour. he is holding on, that is senator cruz, while others are trying to exit the trump train. how bad do you expect it to be down-ballot, the impact republicans have for their close races? >> you know, it's hard to say. it certainly isn't helpful, right? if you have donald trump, who is really dividing the party right

now. all these people have peeled off, mostly establishment. there are some conservatives like me who are not supporting donald trump. but if -- one, if the middle is so depressed with the whole election that they don't show up, that could certainly hurt, or if donald trump support rz show up and they decide to punish down-ballot races, that could hurt. all of these people -- say in the senate there's really only seven competitive races left. six of them are republican defense. most of the republicans are ahead. so, it is starting to hurt, donald trump's effect, you know, his dividing the party is really starting to hurt. we'll see -- my guess right now, thomas, is the republicans will hold the senate and hold the house, barely, unless something dramatically continues -- or something changes in the last three weeks of the campaign. >> msnbc political analyst rick tyler. great to see you, sir. >> thanks, thomas. the question some are asking today, why aren't evangelical

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. just as it takes a village to raise a child. >> it takes children to raise a village. >> to become all it should be. >> the village we build with them in mind will be a better place for us all. >> we are mormons for hillary. >> hoping to win the state of utah, that ad, an appeal to mormons, just one example hillary clinton is using to make her own win over religious conservatives when they go to the ballot box next month. both ballots are courting this key voting bloc. joining me is president of the conservative organization, american values. he was also a former

presidential candidate back in the 2000 race. sir, it's good to have you with me. you have reaffirmed your support of donald trump, in part saying, the 10-year-old tape from a private conversation in which donald trump uses grossly inappropriate language does not change the reality of the choice facing this country. but in your opinion, why should women voters trugs that that that's want the same donald trump of today? >> well, the point is that women voters, men voters, whoever you are, is that one would normally vote on the issues facing the country and how yourlife's going to be impacted by the policy positions of the candidates. and the fact of the matter is, the overwhelming majority of the american people, for a number of years now, have been saying the country's headed in the wrong direction. many people, especially in the evangelical world, think we're on the edge of a cliff. the entire experiment in ordered

liberty is in jeopardy. then i think voters look at the two candidates. hillary clinton is in a party that's adamantly opposed to the sanctity of life. they're not only against the sanctity of life, they want to force americans that are anti-abortion or pro-life to pay for abortions. so, we could go down a whole list of these issues, including religious liberty in which hillary clinton's position is die metticly hostile to these faith-based voters. >> i want to say for those who have faith in their life, that's a major part of their life, when you get on a presidential contest, a lot of those who have looked at those who have lived disciplined faith-based lives instead of policy first as to who has the integrity to be the leader of the free world. we have christianity today which takes a swipe at both candidates, but definitely more damning about donald trump, where it says enthusiasm for a candidate like trump gives our

neighbors ample to not believe jesus is lord. based on what they're saying, why do you continue to supported him? what is your message to those of faith? >> well, my message to them is that they have never voted for anybody in their entire lives, i can say this with certainty, that is not a sinner. christian theology teaches there is only one man without sin, and he was crucified. so, it's always a choice between candidates who are flawed. there's nobody watching today on this network that if everything they've ever said, did, looked at, interacted with other people about was on tape or video wouldn't be deeply embarrassed and ashamed by various aspects of their lives. i bring it back to the original point. this is not a job interview for a sunday school teacher. we're not inviting mr. trump to speak at our church.

i would point to jimmy carter who was a wonderfulhristian man and a terrible president. was wrong about almost everything. and caused the country a great deal of difficulty. donald trump is right about the issues that faith-based people care about. the sanctity of life, religious liberty, the importance of obeying the law, a civil society, an end to the racial discord, secure borders so that americans of all races have a chance to get a job without their wages being und ining und defeating radical islam. the difference between him and hillary clinton on these issues are the differences between night and day. in my view, it's not even a close call. >> gary bauer, thank you, sir. i appreciate your time. we to want get this breaking news on as this hour we've been talking about different e-mails released by wikileaks, one concerning dnc chair donna

brazile and it's a reaction to an e-mail of the john podesta hack. one involves donna brazile specifically, that she shared with the clinton campaign that the candidate would be asked at a town hall. she says, a supported all of our candidates for president. i often shared my thoughts with each and every campaign and any suggestion that would indicate otherwise are simply untrue. as. pertains to the cnn debates, i never had access to questions. i never would have shared them with candidates, if i did, end quote. cnn also said they never, ever shared those questions. we'll be right back.

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we have time for our microsoft pulse question. we have four weeks until the election. trump tweeting the shackles have been taken off, calling paul ryan a weak leader. do you think that tactic will help win the white house? here are the results. take a look. 5% say yes, 95% say no.

thanks for your time today. that's going to wrap up my hour. i'm thomas roberts. don't go anywhere, my colleague kate snow is picking things up right now. >> hi. lots of breaking news. i'm kate snow. the shackles have been taken off, that's an exact quote from donald trump today. four weeks to the election. the gop this afternoon in an all-out civil war. more than a year in the making. the republican nominee publicly going after house speaker paul ryan and other establishment republicans. and while that ignites, brand-new polling from nbc news/"wall street journal," the first major national poll coming out since the debate. donald trump now down nine points in a four-way match-up. that number goes up to ten point -- down ten points in a head-to-head. hidden in there there is a little good news for donald trump. weet get to it when we break it down in a few moments. the numbers show a trump bump after sunday's debate. the trump campaign is jumping on e-mails from the