in the last four weeks of this election. telling "the new york times" i'm the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse. early voting starts in the battleground state of ohio. the african-american vote won the state for barack obama in 2008 and 2012. can hillary clinton build on that same momentum? good morning, everyone, i'm tamron hall coming to you live from our msnbc headquarters in new york. 27 days until the election. donald trump is waging a full-scale battle against his own party. >> the shackles are some of the establishment people that are weak and ineffective people within the republican party. senators and others and paul ryan. i'm just tired of nonsupport and i don't really want his support. >> if you were elected president, you're going to need mccain and you're going to need ryan. you're going to need these guys. >> they'll be there. they'll be there. i would think that ryan maybe wouldn't be there. maybe he'll be in a different position. >> for his part, paul ryan had this to say to voters in a new

video just out this morning. take a look. >> i want to lead a good life. if you want to be able to lead your life, then you want to have a country founded on core principles that allow you to lead your life. and that is what conservativism seeks to conserve. that is what we believe in. it's animating, it's optimistic, it's hopeful and it's inclusive because it applies equally to everybody. >> there's new fallout for the trump campaign. nbc news has learned exclusively some big dollar donors are demanding refunds. appalled by trump's lewd comments on that 2005 tape. president obama mentioning comments made by trump on that tape while campaigning for hillary clinton in north carolina. >> you don't have to be a husband or a father to hear what we heard just a few days ago and

say that's not right. you just have to be a decent human being to say that's not right. >> in the wake of all that, a new "usa today" analysis out this morning finds more than a quarter of all top elected republicans won't endorse donald trump. and to that poll i mentioned taken after sunday's debate, it shows trump trailing hillary clinton by ten points nationally in a head-to-head matchup. donald trump spending his second straight day campaigning in florida. he's in ocala, less than an hour. jacob rascon covering that for us. lea let's get to this new politics. here a a little bit of it. >> from dead broke to worth hundreds of millions. how did hillary clinton end up filthy rich? pay to play politics. staggering amounts of cash poured into the clinton foundation from criminals. >> that's some of the ad, jacob,

b but the ad focuses on hillary clinton. trump's focus has been on paul ryan and the gop establishment. >> right, and last night we saw that again on the bill o'reilly show. he noticeably did not go after paul ryan in the rally last night. i don't know we continue to expect him to do that today. i think that he wanted to get his voice out there. he wanted to punch back. he wanted to punch back hard. now he's going to focus we think on hillary clinton and make his entire rally, going forward, as much as he can, on hillary clinton. as we know, he can't seem to resist whenever he's slighted in any way or appears or he believes he is, he has to punch back. we do believe he is going to focus on hillary clinton. >> then he goes on with bill o'reilly on fox news, again, the only network that he's given interviews to in several days, if not maybe two months now. let me play what he said about

the republican party and some of those who are turning against him. >> i wouldn't want to be in a fox hole with a lot of these people including ryan, especially ryan. >> i got that. >> so again, jacob, the strategy, one guy at the rally and then on o'reilly, a whole different message. how's that effective? >> so even bill o'reilly there is disagreeing with him. i would say in talking to his supporters, it's split. a lot of them believe this is the right thing to do. he has to punch back. this is the trump we voted for in the primary who's against the establishment. this is the exact person who we want in office. but a lot of them are already starting to talk about excuses for why he would lose the election and saying it's all ryan's fault. it's all the establishment's fault. if they would only get behind him and the voting is rigged they add. >> all right, jacob, thank you very much. jacob is in ocala, florida, where trump is speaking. hillary clinton there yesterday. we have some breaking news involving voting there.

pete williams with a new development related to florida's early voting impacted by hurricane matthew. >> after holding a hearing this morning, a federal judge ordered the state to extent the deadline for voter registration by a week. it was to expire originally yesterday. the judge initially on monday extended it until today so he could hold this hearing. now he's ordered the state to extend it until next tuesday. so that gives an extra week of early voting. both the florida democrats and the league of women voters asked the judge to extend the voting deadline in light of the disruption caused by the hurricane. they said that the governor put the voters in a tough spot by, on one hand, ordering an evacuation, shutting down state offices. on the other hand, refusing to extend the registration deadline. and now the judge has ordered the state to extend that deadline until next tuesday. the state does have the option now of going to a federal appeals court if it wants to

resist that. but we haven't heard any indication yet tam ron whether the state's going to do that. >> we'll have more i'm sure on this hour on that breaking news. donald trump's running mate, mike pence, speaking in lynchburg, virginia. the conservative christian college whose president jerry fall well jr. endorsed trump. it is also the university where trump made the line "two corinthians." the blunder with the bible. pence, in ohiowa, take a look a the interaction with a supporter yesterday. >> i will tell you, just for me, and i don't want this to happen, but i will tell you, me personally, if hillary clinton gets in, i myself, i'm ready for a revolution because we can't have her in. >> yes, don't say that. you hear the governor saying to that woman, don't say that. it kind of reminded people of senator john mccain when he told

the guy back in 2008 that senator obama at the time wallacewas a decent person and you don't have to be scared if he becomes president. the man was saying at the time president obama was a muslim. nbc's kelly o'donnell is at liberty university. she join us now. an interesting time for mike pence to be at this the conservative college on the heels of that 2005 video and his struggle to explain while also disassociating himself from those trump comments. >> it is certainly an interesting time, for governor pence, that moment you just showed was one of those moments where he had to sort of make a decision in real time. i was there yesterday and i was back in 2008 when john mccain stopped a woman who said then senator obama was an arab. those are gut-check moments for politicians to try to potentially offend a supporter and have to say something, pull something out in real time. a challenging thing. a lot of those sort of land mine eggshell moments for mike pence

in recent days. this is perhaps a more comfortable environment here at libberty university where the president, as you mentioned, jerry falwell jr., had endorsed him, although the university itself indicates it is not partisan one way or another. this is certainly welcoming of conservatives and christian conservatives. mike pence has been telling sort of two stories here. one is his personal faith journey. explaining to the students here about 11,000 students here required to attend as part of their convocation how he became a christian and also making a political statement. this is part of the experience students here have, hearing from candidates as diverse as donald trump, bernie sanders, ted cruz and mike pence. this is a part of what they expect. and for mike pence, it's a big audience at a critical time trying to explain some of the things that donald trump has said and done, also make the case against hillary clinton and her campaign. we expect that some themes of religious libberty, according to as, will be a part of pence's

speech here today, tamron. >> let's go to mike pence. he's talking about that 2005 tape. let's listen. >> -- called to aspire to live godly lives but also we recognize we all fall short. it's not about condoning what is said and done. it's about believing in grace and foregivess. as christians, we a called to forgive, even as we've been forgiven. i would submit to you my running mate showed humility. and then he fought back. and turned the focus to the choice that we face and it's a mar dramatic choice than any time in any election in my lifetime. truly is. and that's what i want to speak to you about today. >> so, kelly, there it is, mike pence saying that this is about forgiveness that trump shopped

humility and fought back. it was last week when this tape came out, there were people who thought mike pence would try to make a move to be at the top of the ticket and would abandon donald trump. he's there in that christian conservative crowd, defending him. >> we choose a stronger america. we choose -- >> it's difficult for me to hear you because of the ambient noise. i think i got the sense of what you are looking for. mike pence has made it very clear he is all in to fulfill this commitment to the republican party, to be the running mate and to find a way to sell a donald trump white house to voters. that's what he's trying to do. it has been difficult at times. it has been awkward at times. one thing that continues to stand out to me is that he had previously, frequently, described donald trump as a, quote, good man. and when i interviewed him yesterday, i said to him, do you still feel that way about donald trump? and without breaking a beat, he continued to describe him in many other ways but did not affirm that same notion of being a good man. he called him a fighter.

he called him tough. said he would work on behalf of the american people. that is open to interpretation, what that means, but it struck me as a significant fact, when he could be loyal, but at the same time, protect some of his own views, his own principles. that's the challenge for mike pence over these remaining four weeks. >> as the trump campaign continues to slam republican leaders, you have mike pence there in virginia, still trying to defend donald trump as a fighter and a man who showed humility. what are their supporters thinking? here's what one female trump supporter, here's her prediction we got from her yesterday. >> i think people are going to rise up because we're tired of taking it. we're tired of being deplorables. take it as it is. but you're in the south. we're all second amendment pros. we want our country back, like he just said. and she's not going to give it to us. >> florida based republican

strategist and senior adviser to the mcmillan for president campaign. karen, national political reporter for "the washington post." rick, let me shoot to you right now the first question. that woman, florida vote, female voter. one of these people who clearly wants to commit and stick with donald trump. he said even if he has to limp over the finish line, he's doing it for them. how do you describe the state of the race now? >> i think there's been some news todaycontinuing to collapse in national polls. we saw with my guy in utah they're now statistically tied in utah. third party candidate for the first time is about to pass the nominee of the republican party in a major state. this is a sign that donald trump is collapsing. it's also a sign that people are looking for something a little different than just this constant river of pure anger coming out of trump. it's really something we've got to -- we've got a lot of indicators out there the folks are ready for a different direction in this election even with only four weeks left. >> so then is that different direction a hillary clinton

presidency? are republicans prepared to say that? is that the different direction? >> we're very hopeful in our campaign to deny both trump and hillary 270 electorate college votes and throw it to the house. i do think right now donald trump has so alienated a lot of republicans that they're really up for grabs. we're trying to communicate with them as the only other conservative in the race. hillary's trying to communicate with them to appeal to a sense of decency that trump doesn't show at any point in his life. so i mean, i think donald trump has really been the motive force here. but i do think voters are kind of exhausted by the trump show. >> but we've got less than four weeks left, karen -- >> that's true. >> we were all there at the rnc where to the very last minute there was this coup that was allegedly going to happen, that never did, and so this idea that a third person perhaps can come in and both trump and clinton would fall by the wayside. there's nothing -- there's no evidence to provide any real

belief that that can happen. but what happens when you look at the paul ryan/donald trump fallout the next three, almost four weeks here? what happens there? >> i think two things are going on right now. one is on the part of sort of establishment republicans battle. and that battle is to hold on to the house and the senate. the senate being in a particularly precarious situation right now. but beyond this battle there is also a war. and that war is over what the republican party is going to be after this election. whether, you know, if, in fact, donald trump goes down to defeat as the polls suggest. the fight is going to be over who is to blame in the republican party. is it the people who insisted upon nominating donald trump or will it be the people who did not get behind him in the end? and what does that say about what it is that republicanism really stands for. >> karen it appears from the interview donald trump did on

fox news knowing he was with steve bannon up in trump tower, tweeting yourself these threats at the gop leadership. they're banking on blaming paul ryan and the establishment if he's defeated. when you look at this nbc poll, right now, donaltrump's favorability among all republicans is at 74%. paul ryan is at 54%. this is an economist poll. shows paul ryan at 54%, karen. >> i think the answer, again, assuming the poll rlgs right, assuming donald trump is headed for defeat, the answer is likely to be what the size of that defeat is. if he goes down in a landslide, it is going to be harder for his supporters to argue first of all that hillary clinton's victory was not legitimate. but second of all, it is a repudiation of the kind of republicanism that he stands for. and the kind of strain of the party represented by his supporters. >> rick, wheb you hear the

supporter tell mike pence, if you lose, you know, we want a rebellion, how do you process that? where does that energy, where does that voice go if he does lose? >> well, the real question here is for the republican leadership in the house and the senate and the states is very simple. are you willing to be responsible for the sort of things that donald trump has incited and motivated in people that exists well outside of the norms of the behavior in american politics? we try not to shoot each other in american politics. it's one of our things we're proud of. we try not to say things like i'm going to put my opponent in jail if i win in american politics. i think there's going to be a very painful shock for a lot of folks in the trump world. excuse me, the republican world, that they've become very deeply branded with the problems that donald trump has given them. and with the sort of attitudes and mind-sets that donald trump has infused in his followers.

>> it's interesting, the daily beast is reporting, rick, an e-mail that's not been verified by nbc news. between steve bannon and a former writing partner julie jones. and he says, this is in 2015, a year before he joined the campaign. he said, i'm trump's campaign manager, he wrote in this e-mail, and he says, according to, again, this e-mail, don't you ever read breitbart, it's trump central. this may be what paul ryan and other gop establishment, whether they're in congress or the senate, have to deal with, the permanent imprint of this influence of breitbart which is seen as an alt right website saying they are, quote, trump central, if that is verified, i should say. >> look, it certainly by all accounts sounded very much like steve bannon, the sort of things he said. i think they basically decided breitbart's going to burn down the republican party. and steve bann enon wants to establish a white nationalist

party in its place. donald trump has been the avatar of that. breitbart has been basically one long in kind contribution to donald trump for this entire election cycle. i think you're going to have, you know, republicans like paul ryan and several republicans in the senate who stick with donald trump, who refuse to say we can't allow this, we can't adopt this, we can't be these people. you know, they're going to lose -- they may lose the republican party as a viable national political brand over time by sticking with a guy who essentially has become, as you said, the mouthpiece of an alt right website run by guys who are flat out enamored with authoritarians. >> quickly to the numbers. this new online poll out of ohio. from baldwin wallace university. it shows hillary clinton up nine. she's at 26%. donald trump at 26%. she told "new york times" magazine, quote, i'm the last

thing standing between you and the apocalypse. how would you describe her campaign, her strategy at this point? >> i think her strategy is to mostly -- is to hope that donald trump continues on the road that he is on. because as the playbook -- if your opponent has high negatives, you want this race to be as much about your opponent as possible. and right now, they're in a good spot on that. >> karen, thank you, rick, thank you. great pleasure having you both on as my panel. we'll have much more on the down ballot panels and how the gop divide we've seen really explode in the last 24 hours, how might that affect the elections. i'll speak live with democratic congressman of kentucky. a mysterious plane crash in connecticut. officials do not know what happened. we'll have the very latest on this investigation. and just a few months before he'll leave office, president obama's taking on a new gig already. this one with wired magazine

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continue to couple out down ballot republicans as she did yesterday in florida. joining me now, democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky. thank you for your time, congressman. >> good to be with you. >> i know you were quoted as saying most people think the house now could be in play. there's a little bit of scrambling going on to identify races that could flip if presidential race somehow gets a ten-point margin. right now, nationally, you're looking at about a nine-point on average. so what's your take? >> well, i think a month or so ago, saying she thought it would end up being a margin for either democrats or republicans. i think a lot of people now think she's very close to p to right. the ninth district which is todd young's old seat where the candidate is virtually tied with the republican candidate there.

there's a governor's race in which the governor's going to do well. evan booayh looks like he's the favorite. i would make her a favorite for that seat. that's one that wasn't on anybody's radar two months ago. so there are seats like that all over the country moving. >> roll call has the top ten incumbent seats. all them are republican. this is the third time the list consists of all republicans. three on the list are from florida. at least three members on the list have called on trump to step aside. how do you take advantage of this? what is the strategy? do you go after, as hillary clinton has tried to do, make each of these vulnerable members of congress accountable for trump's words? >> well, i think that's what you keep saying. those trying to distance themselves now from donald trump, you say all of a sudden now you're distancing yourself

from him but you didn't when he insulted muslims and immigrants and mexicans and women before? and those who are staying with him, the argument's pretty clear, there's no way in the world that you can morally defend the top of your ticket. so republicans are clearly in a dilemma. i think the biggest factor here, in terms of down ballot outcome, is nobody knows what the -- who's going to come out and what they're going to do when they come out. in the sense that you don't know whether trump voters are going to come out and say, well, i'm going to pay back the republican party by voting for trump and then voting for democrats or not voting for down ballot races. some who, you know, they're just so many permutations of what can happen. turnout and the dynamics of the split in the republican party are pretty hard to predict right now. >> let me play what donald trump said about this conference call, this emergency conference call with republicans, with speaker ryan earlier this week.

here's his assessment of it. >> i think we should get support and we don't get the support from guys like paul ryan. help h he had a conference call yesterday with congressman with hundreds of them, and theyioted on the phone. i'm tired of nonsupport. i don't really want his support. >> how would you describe speaker ryan's vantage point? how do you describe his predicament? >> well, i wouldn't want to be in his shoes, that's all i can say. he's doing what i would think any rational speaker would do in that position. that's try to preserve majority. it's clear the odds are hillary clinton's going to be president. so what do you do if you don't agree with hillary clinton's jenld? you try to put up an obstacle. so you basically cut the top of your ticket loose and say everybody, you're on your own, don't feel obligated to defend

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residents voted early and delivered obama his second victory in the state. this year, hillary clinton has been trying to win over obama's voters in ohio. especially african-americans. nbc's chris jansing has the latest in our battleground america series. she is live in cleveland. and i saw you earlier getting some interesting insight from voters you've been talking to, chris. >> yes, it is really interesting. because there seems to be an effective push that's been put in place by the clinton campaign. you'll remember it wasn't so long ago, tam ron, just a few weeks ago, that it looked like hillary clinton was going to lose ohio. now when you see these voters and more than 400 have come out to cleveland, to cuyahoga county for early voting today. so much of that driven by the big push put in place by hillary clinton to get people to vote early. and the reason is that in 2012, early voting was the difference.

on election day, mitt romney won but president obama won this state by getting out largely the african-american vote here in cleveland and other urban areas. al foster is from suburban shaker heights. what brought you out early? >> the fact we want a great president and that president is hillary clinton. >> she has been behind in the state and she's also been behind in the african-american vote where barack obama was in 2012. what are you sensing now? >> well, i'm sensing looking at the crowd that's out here today that hillary is going to win ohio. by a decent margin. >> al, thank you very much. good to see you. you know, it's been, to say the least, an unconventional election. here's something that's very conventional. the democrat wins by bringing up the urban vote. the republicans win by going out into the suburbs. here's what's interesting now. you see what was a traditionally

democratic area down south like in the ma honing valley around youngstown where a lot of people have lost jobs going to donald trump. but those suburban voters, particularly educated white voters, there's going to be a push on them as well. barack obama's going to be here in cleveland on friday. continuing to push to get that early vote out, tamron. >> all right, chris, very interesting, you have actual voters. we've had so many pundits and all this and now to talk to voters who are there. it is fascinating. thank you. so president obama has vowed to work as hard as he can to get hillary clinton elected. we know he's also been busy with a new job. guest editor of wired magazine's november issue. the first time a sitting u.s. president has guest edited a major media publication and in it the president looks to the future of science and new technology, striking a hopeful tone. obama declares, quote, now is the greatest time to be alive. the editor of wired magazine

joins me. i have it in my hand. thanks for joining us. the paper's amazing. >> isn't that nice? good old-fashioned magazine. >> good old-fashioned magazine. president obama, i'm just going to read one of the excerpts. help say says, the next time you're bombarded about how our country's doomed, brush off the cynics and fearmongers. the truth is, if you have to choose any time in the course of human history to be alive, you choose this one, right here in america right now. that is the exact opposite of what the gop nominee is saying. so was this political or was this just a view, reflection? >> refreshing to hear that. there is no political agendagen. we're not trying to get anyone elected. this is really a reflection of the president's ideals and values. guest editing is creating an intellectual or conceptual framework for journalism. the president was a fan of

wired. one of his advisers reached out. it was really about him identifying the people and ideas that are most important to him. and then directing us and allowing us to go out and tell stories about them. >> i think it's so interesting they reached out to wired. >> it's pretty gratifying when the president tells you he reads your magazine and has been a fan. it's that idea of optimism. optimism that the president holds in his heart. sort of values he wanted to imbue and the collection of stories. i think you'll see it front and center in the essay he penned and you'll see it in watching the interview we conducted. >> i love this quote about the space travel. he says, i'm still a big space guy and figuring out how to move to the next generation of space travel is something we're significantly underfunding. i was at the last shuttle launch in florida. we all watched it play out and wondered aloud what happened and here you have the president talking about space travel but in reality not having the time

or the funding to focus in on the way i think people want. >> he talks a lot about that. specific thinking about the way this country used to talk about moon shots. about centrally organized massive initiatives like the apollo missions and the sort of wistfulness he has, we saw it again in his essay yesterday, talking about our adventures going to mars. this is very important to him. it comes to him from an early childhood of identifying with "star trek" and being a fan of that sense of human exploration. a belief that he holds deeply. >> we actually have a clip of him talking about being a trekkie. let's play that. >> what made the show i think lasting was it was not actually about technology. it was about values and human relationships. >> i don't think i've ever heard star trek described in that way. >> he really identifies with it and he uses it as a lens to look

at the values of americans. ingenuity, can do spirit. really resonates in how he formed policy decisions. >> did he express any regret as far as the technology, the future advancement, things he wished he'd done related to that? >> he didn't express any regrets but he does talk about the difference between our perception of how technology informs government. he has this great story about his first day in office we he goes to see the situation room and he expects this sort of tom cruise-like "minority report" with big he laughs and says it was not even close. he talked so much about the expertise and intelligence of the white house staff, the administration. has so much respect for the work they do and the progress they made in the arena of technology. >> it is fascinating. congratulations to wired and your staff. thank you. up next, our daily briefing.

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we are back with our daily briefing. the political headlines making news this afternoon. trump's unshackling from house speaker paul ryan and the republican establishment calling unprecedented fallout in the party. nbc news learns two major republican donors are asking the trump campaign for their money back. joining me, kerry dann. the trump campaign says it's news to them donors want their money back. >> the trump campaign is saying they do not have any knowledge of this but my colleague obtained two e-mails from high dollar republican donors who said after the release of those

2005 comments from donald trump talking about women, they are out, they want their money back and they're very unhappy with the candidate. of course, like there's a little bit of irony to this in that it was long known that trump had been on the record saying things that were offensive about women. for example, his comments to howard stern. but there was a very visceral reaction i think you're seeing this both in the grassroots and donor class, very visceral rereaction to both the audio and visual and the language he used towards women that have them up in arms saying they're ready to walk away. >> there was some pushback, great article in "the times" about, you know, to your point, these donors and some of these elected officials are pushing back, but they weren't with the muslim ban, the attack on the caw khans, the list goes on and on, and the value of women, especially as voters, is being

felt more, particularly white female voters. the '87 gop electorate is not endorsing trump. we still don't know what that means. >> using the word unshackled, i think a lot of people following donald trump for the entirety of his run beyond earns what that meant. as if he was more reserved before. but what he's addressing here is likely the fact that he was trying to balance earlier in the campaign the interests of the gop establishment in washington, the rnc, people like paul ryan. he clearly feels free of those individuals right now and is running the campaign, you know, what he says the way he would like to. the question now is how that's going to reach out beyond his base and towards those voters who have been skeptical of him for a long time during his run. >> all right, kerry dann, thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. reminder, you can watch msnbc for all day coverage of the third and final presidential debate next wednesday, live,

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